Excellent comparison! I went with a BDX on the recommendation of Casey at BCB, but they no longer are in business. Have looked into ZFG as they are WI based but at the time they were primarily tuning fairly extreme. The BDX still works fine with the Gearhead tune, but who knows what the future holds.
You can also data log with the TDN app! The drive mode power level is explorer only for now... for now 😉 Agree though, the lack of live data monitoring is a big Pitfall right now that is going to be addressed at some point in time.
Yeah you can, for some reason I can only get rpm, coolant, and intake air temp to show on mine. That’ll be cool, I can’t wait to see what HP tuners can do for that. I think they just need to make a little touch screen device for either tuning and logging or just logging.
@zfgracing what about trans brake setup on trucks i think that would be sick on the raptor lol! been watching your stuff for awhile been tempted to make the switch from the my tuner that uses cobb to you.
@nickwuebben2500 bro… what are you waiting for. Get rid of that Cobb junk. Adam is a beast on HP tuners. He’s the most knowledgeable tuner I have ever dealt with.
@@BoostKingMatt the cobb has been ok and goose has treated me well, i just see so much great on zfg, he has really been killing it on the explorer st platform to and thats what the ol lady is rocking lol
@nickwuebben2500 goose is fine but he picks on Adam all the time and other tuners and he’s kinda cocky. I still say, Adam is one of the most experienced tuners out there that I’ve ever encountered.
I’ve got both SCT and HP Tuners MPVI3 with TDN. I keep the SCT X4 since Gearhead doesn’t tune on the HP Tuners platform. But all my other stuff from ZFG, MPT, and 5 Star is through HP Tuners. I keep the X4 on the dash at all times for constant data logging. But if I want the best data logging, I’ll drag the laptop outside and use the MPVI3. Hope that HPT can do live constant data logging and gauges through TDN soon though.
To be fair, it's not the device that has the limit, but their strategy. If someone knew the address of the limit, one could change it in the SCT tune. As for the drive modes, that's a different can of worms that's easier discussed in DMs 🤣
@RoOoGr only workarounds I know of are the JB4 stuff, but that’s so dumb, you might as well get a tune. As long as you flash your truck back to stock before you take it to the dealership you’ll be fine. My truck has a warranty and I’ve voided it haha, it has upgraded turbos and tune etc. but since I do all the work on my truck and never take it to a dealer, I don’t really care.
only great way is to become good friends with the shop. like my local shop closes there eyes to all my mods but say if the motor chucks a rod they will look into the computer. even if you take the tune off i think its some cycle counter they can see was just started over.
@nickwuebben2500 that’s true. Your local shop as in ford dealership or what? Depends on the dealership I guess. My truck had aftermarket downpipes and I had a TSB warranty thing done on it and they didn’t even bat an eye. Also my truck had been tuned too.
Excellent comparison! I went with a BDX on the recommendation of Casey at BCB, but they no longer are in business. Have looked into ZFG as they are WI based but at the time they were primarily tuning fairly extreme. The BDX still works fine with the Gearhead tune, but who knows what the future holds.
Adam can tune wild or gentle, whatever you want. But yeah I hear ya.
You can also data log with the TDN app!
The drive mode power level is explorer only for now... for now 😉
Agree though, the lack of live data monitoring is a big Pitfall right now that is going to be addressed at some point in time.
Yeah you can, for some reason I can only get rpm, coolant, and intake air temp to show on mine.
That’ll be cool, I can’t wait to see what HP tuners can do for that. I think they just need to make a little touch screen device for either tuning and logging or just logging.
@zfgracing what about trans brake setup on trucks i think that would be sick on the raptor lol! been watching your stuff for awhile been tempted to make the switch from the my tuner that uses cobb to you.
@nickwuebben2500 bro… what are you waiting for. Get rid of that Cobb junk. Adam is a beast on HP tuners. He’s the most knowledgeable tuner I have ever dealt with.
@@BoostKingMatt the cobb has been ok and goose has treated me well, i just see so much great on zfg, he has really been killing it on the explorer st platform to and thats what the ol lady is rocking lol
@nickwuebben2500 goose is fine but he picks on Adam all the time and other tuners and he’s kinda cocky. I still say, Adam is one of the most experienced tuners out there that I’ve ever encountered.
I’ve got both SCT and HP Tuners MPVI3 with TDN. I keep the SCT X4 since Gearhead doesn’t tune on the HP Tuners platform. But all my other stuff from ZFG, MPT, and 5 Star is through HP Tuners. I keep the X4 on the dash at all times for constant data logging. But if I want the best data logging, I’ll drag the laptop outside and use the MPVI3. Hope that HPT can do live constant data logging and gauges through TDN soon though.
Yes I sure hope so.
To be fair, it's not the device that has the limit, but their strategy.
If someone knew the address of the limit, one could change it in the SCT tune.
As for the drive modes, that's a different can of worms that's easier discussed in DMs 🤣
Haha, well I’m not saying one is better than the other it just depends on your needs
can i tune my truck with anyone of these guys and still not void my warranty?
Technically any tune voids warranty… if ford can prove that you tuned it.
@ is there any tricks or work arounds that might not get me caught lol
@RoOoGr only workarounds I know of are the JB4 stuff, but that’s so dumb, you might as well get a tune. As long as you flash your truck back to stock before you take it to the dealership you’ll be fine. My truck has a warranty and I’ve voided it haha, it has upgraded turbos and tune etc. but since I do all the work on my truck and never take it to a dealer, I don’t really care.
only great way is to become good friends with the shop. like my local shop closes there eyes to all my mods but say if the motor chucks a rod they will look into the computer. even if you take the tune off i think its some cycle counter they can see was just started over.
@nickwuebben2500 that’s true. Your local shop as in ford dealership or what? Depends on the dealership I guess. My truck had aftermarket downpipes and I had a TSB warranty thing done on it and they didn’t even bat an eye. Also my truck had been tuned too.