**IS ANGEL BETTER??** (sorry buffy) Angel S1 Ep 1 Reaction: FIRST TIME WATCHING (buffy spinoff)
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"Is it really that easy to land a job in Hollywood, just be a good-looking, tall guy?" Funny story, that's LITERALLY how David Boreanaz landed his role as Angel on Buffy. The casting team had seen practically every "hot guy" in town trying to cast the character, but then the casting director's friend recommended they bring David in to read for the role because she'd seen him walking his dog in her neighborhood and thought he was beautiful. The rest is history!
True, but he was also an actor trying to get work 🤷🏼♀️
@@spikesecho724 True, but she didn't know that at the time.
Angel was only his third credited role and IIRC, the person who mentioned him to the producers didn't know he was an actor, so it's really not that far off how he ended up in Buffy. It doesn't diminish his skill as an actor, it just demonstrates how being handsome can allow you to get your foot in the door in Hollywood.
@@Talisguy I would say it’s more than being handsome he has something special. That even people walking down the street and seeing him would notice.
@@jeanetteking434 And it was seeing him play Angelus-possessed-by-Grace in "I Only Have Eyes for You" that convinced Joss Whedon he had the acting chops to carry his own show.
I love that we see Cordelia smart enough to figure out the guy is a vampire, while at the very same time, not being smart enough not to blurt it out endangering herself.
"- can you fly?" I admit that this is one of my favorite moments. And Cordelia.. she will remain Cordelia until the end of the world, and thank God!
That whole scene in the office is good, between Angel & Russel & ‘lawyer’.
"I'm from Sunnydale! I know a vampire when I'm... alone with him.." Seriously, Cordy makes any scene better!
So Doyle was supposed to be Whistler (from the Buffy season 2 finale) but the actor was unavailable and they created a new character in Doyle to fill that role
Yep! And I gotta say, I really like Doyle. R.I.P. Glenn Quinn, the actor who played him.
@@frogurtcremebrulee5252 ditto. Doyle was a great character. Glenn was fantastic in the role
Having seen Doyle in a few episodes now, I’m so glad he got the part!
@@nickreacts6394 I’m not convinced they would have used Whistler. He was kind of meh. Glenn Quinn is so much more handsome and charismatic and also less annoying IMO.
@@jeanetteking434 none of that contradicts that it was their original plans though. It just shows that their final decision was a far better one.
When I saw you asking about Cordelia in the Buffy episode, I knew you would be excited to see her here.
I never noticed the guy from Lost before. Nice catch
James aka Sawyer. ;) Yea, he had a small role here before Lost.
I imagine a world where he played a recurring villain, hahaha. He's great.
David Boreanaz really shines in this series compared to Buffy and I am grateful for the spin-off and a chance to dive deeper into the Angel character.
Yeah, they go SO deep into his character. If you're curious about what Angelus has in common with Angel - or Liam gods help you - you'll find out.
Whedon has since admitted that he had no idea how to write Angel with much depth on Buffy, and when Angel got his own show, the writers fleshed him out by subverting and deconstructing his brooding hero persona, mostly by making fun of it. So there's a reason Angel comes off as so much more rounded here than on Buffy.
@@Talisguy (good name)
I would guess that David Greenwalt helped a lot with the development of Angel the Series and Angel the Character.
@@TalisguyIt works. Plus Angel has always been a bit of a dork underneath it all.
@@ianburns1167 DB is really good at playing guys who are a cross between the stereotypical high school jock who got older and wiser mixed with a bit of a dork, to the point where I assume that's probably what his personality is actually like.
Can I just say that I love that whole Russell/Cordy exchange?
"Hey, you're a vampire!"
"....what? No, I'm not!".
Just how Russell tries to play it off kills me every time. Lmao.
That cracks me up every time! Like he just farted and is trying to act like he didn’t 😅
Thank you so much for bringing Angel to TH-cam!
While I prefer Buffy as a show for lots of personal reasons, I think both shows make up a complete universe and they both have their own strengths. I do believe though that you personally will be head over heels for Angel.
I've always enjoyed Buffy more, for the most part, but I love Angel too. There are definitely times in the Buffyverse, when I find the events on Angel more interesting than the events on Buffy.
I love the partnership between the two shows. They're the same in some ways and different in other ways. Much of the time, I think of the two shows as one big thing: the Buffyverse.
Yeah I think a good spin off is one that doesn't try and duplicate the original, which is why I think both shows were so beloved. I think David as an actor really made it his own, and he's had a great career steming from this opportunity
"Angel" is one of my favorites. I've watched it straight through many times. So glad to share this. I'll be here for it all. Thanks. Here we go! :)
Hi, welcome to "Angel," where Angel stops being a broody mysterious bad boy and starts being a lovable doof. I don't care for him too much on "Buffy," where he's almost deliberately a one-dimensional romantic interest. But I knew I would love Angel on his own show from the moment he jumps into a convertible and it turns out to be the wrong car.
"All he needs is a REAL drinking problem, and then it's a neo noir." Aw come on, Angel's drinking problem totally counts! 😁😁
We were very excited for you to find out that Cordelia was joining Angel in LA. All aboard the Cangel ship!
"wrong car"
I really love that gag. So simple... and so funny.
In the immortal words of Count Dooku "I've been looking forward to this."
It has been theorized that the reason Angel just hung up is because as far as he knew Buffy was off at college getting settled into dorm life instead of her going through what she was and being back home so soon, so most likely he was actually calling Joyce to check on Buffy and see how things were going for her.
Thrilled you're sharing Angel on YT. Hoping you continue!!!! Just started the vid a few minutes ago.
"Can you fly?"
I was hooked from that moment.
If you think about it, Angel does have a drinking problem! it's just not alcohol.
I love these little Moments in buffy and angel, that seem to be totally random but make so much sense when you watch both series (like the phone call)
I loved that little touch, hope there’s more like it!
@@nickreacts6394 It's why you gotta alternate between shows when watching for the first time.
I think there are watch along guides on when to watch each of the two shows so stuff makes sense. As the other replier here said, it’s important to watch the shows at the same time!
Loved this reaction to the Angel pilot. Been waiting for ages to see your reaction to Cordelias appearance and it didn't disappoint.
I had never seen Buffy before watching Angel, and watched most of it before seeing a Buffy episode. Part of the reason is that different networks bought the rights to the two shows in my country, so I didn’t have the channel Buffy was airing on. After watching much of Angel on TV I started buying the seasons on DVD and a friend of mine had Buffy, so he borrowed mine and I borrowed his. I didn’t take long for me to also buy all season of Buffy on DVD and I’ve obsessed over it ever since.
Angel is a lot grittier than Buffy ever was. It turns into one of the greatest shows ever, so keep watching.
That and the characters in Angel are great. It takes a bit to get there, but, overall, I prefer the main cast in Angel to the one in Buffy.
@@RestlessTome Yes, but Angel didn't have AmytheRat in the cast. Didn't even have to BE a main character, but stole the scene whenever she appeared. jk
They wanted the vampires in Angel to look more evil and sinister, hence the weird makeup in this episode. They (thankfully) realised it looked terrible though so they went back to the same style as in Buffy.
I'm glad that Thor got to finally start the next segment of the Buffyverse, that is, watching both shows. I really like this show as a redemption arc for Angel and a time of growth for Cordelia. On another note, Russell Winters is a villain who died from fire and gravity at the same time. Also, I've always thought there was a lot of sunlight coming in to the office window.
At some point they explain that the windows are Vampire Proof to protect their clients, that's why there is sunlight, but Russell only burns up after being thrown from the window. "Can you fly?" Best Line Ever!
@@jadejewel6586 They mean a lot of sunlight coming through Angel's office windows, in the scene at the end with Cordy.
@@bellatronics Not direct.
@@kurtsnyder4752 There was plenty of sunlight coming into the room through plate glass walls to have dusted the vamp and Angel too.
It’s the necro-tempered glass they have in the offices that prevented it.
Though I will say that they play really fast and loose in Buffy with Spike and how much sunlight he can be exposed to. Way more than in earlier seasons for any vamp.
The only way fans have head cannoned any sense to it, is that older vamps that are stronger can withstand much more sunlight before burning up than fledges/ younger vamps.
Really glad you enjoyed it. I won't say anything about what's to come, but I'm really looking forward to seeing your reaction vids. You make some excellent observations.
Thanks so much!!
As an adult now, I generally enjoy Angel more than Buffy when I do my rewatches every couple of years. It's a more mature show and deals with more adult themes. Buffy sorta gets there in later seasons but Angel has it from the start
I've only known"Buffy"for 2 full decades and I've always loved it. I discovered"Angel"just 1 year ago and I've found it mostly disappointing and boring.Guess I'm still a kid inside.
@@Nicamon Which season are you on?
@@JLDReactions I've seen both shows from beginning to end.
Yes! So glad your reacting to Angel on TH-cam.
I also immediately loved Doyle, he has a certain charm to him.
I absolutely love Angel (show and character)! Im excited for you to finally react to the show!
Hey Thor. I'm so glad you enjoyed Ep 1.
The original title for this show was "Buffy's Vampire Ex-Boyfriend Moves to Los Angeles and Does an Entirely Decent Impersonation of Batman"... or "BVEBMTLAADAEDIOB" for short.
It was really fun when you heard Cordy's voice, but took a second to process it.
And then, again, it was really fun when you heard Buffy's voice on the phone and you took a second to realize that we were seeing the explanation for Buffy's mysterious phone call in 4x1.
Haha that definitely should have been the title!
Well, not based on THIS season...
That having been said, I really like this episode. It does what it needs to do to establish the world-reintroduces Angel and Cordy and brings in Doyle as well as hinting at a larger theme for the series. Also, I love the fact that Angel attempts to save the pretty young blonde girl (sound familiar)....and utterly fails at it.
"Just when I thought Cordelia couldn't get any better..."
Oh, you really have NO idea.
This show is going to blow your ever loving mind before it’s done. Be ready for an up escalator in an upside down world. Sooooo, exciting to see it through your eyes for the first time. I have the entire series on DVD from way back. I’ve watched this so many times over the years.
We did have little books like that. But just for people we didn't know well. People we spoke to often we just had the number memorized or had it programed on speed dial. Was a pretty big step in a relationship if you got upgraded from the book to speed dial.
Doyle is a half human/half demon fellow, ergo his whole "Oh I'm very much human - on my mother's side" remark lol. And Angel is, in my humble opinion, SO much more compelling as a character on this show Vs on Buffy. You really get to see his personality come out as opposed to just being the mysterious love interest. And Cordy really comes into her own. Can't wait for you to continue!
I still prefer Buffy, more creative, iconic, finest moments even if Angel is one of the best spin off created
Not disagreeing but the two best character arcs of either show happen on Angel (won’t say who for spoilers).
You’re really in for a treat if you’re that impressed by the first episode. So many people expect this show to be Buffy 2.0, but it’s really not.
Looking forward to watching a reactor who really gets Angel.
I really love this show! The way it took characters from Buffy and made them even better - Angel, Cordelia and one more even further down the line. The most surprising one to me was Angel himself - I never really liked him on Buffy, but I love him in his own series...
So happy that you enjoyed the pilot! Not everyone connects with the Angel series, but if you do, t's a great adventure to experience it alongside Buffy :)
I'm glad you chose to put your Angel reactions on TH-cam. You'll make a lot of people happy.
I feel like you'll always be a little biased toward Angel because your girl Cordy is in it. ;)
No it’s interesting that you mentioned alcoholism, seeing as how that was the idea for the Angel show. Buffy’s was about the trials towards adulthood- Angel’s, the trials towards “sobriety” and what that entails.
Whoever first thought of bringing Cordy to this show was genius!
It’s funny watching all you young reactors discover Buffy and Angel all these years later. As an old fart, I started watching Buffy when it was shown in the UK in the 1990s on television. when I went to university I had to stop watching it because we didn’t have a television and my poor mother was tasked with recording it every week on the VCR and remembering not to tape over it by accident. At the time there was quite a delay before the licenced videotapes for the current series are available in shops, and it was even longer before I would have any chance of having the money required to purchase them as they were actually quite expensive at the time. I never got to watch season seven of Buffy until years later because by then I was living away from home, again without a television, and not coming back often enough to make it worth it being recorded. And for a long time, the only way I was able to find out what happened was because people were illegally posting synopses online. I managed to get hold of the first two seasons of angel on VCR, and then it was synopses four seasons, 3, four and five. Watching you all watch these now and experiencing them in such a different way, and being able to talk to people across the world in almost real time and share with the reactors is such an incredible thing. I’m so pleased to be able to re enjoy the shows as an adult and not feel I’m the only person on the planet loving them. Back then it was a fight to see each episode and quite often I would miss either the beginning or the end because the timer on the video was never quite in sync with a timer on the television, or somebody would accidentally record the beginning of a soap opera over part of it.
It’s also really interesting to me how my perspective on the characters has changed. I never much liked Buffy the first time around, but now I feel like I understand her much better and appreciate how very carefully she was written in many respects. My initial favourite characters from my childhood viewing, who I eventually came to dislike by the very end, I find I start to dislike very quickly because I can see the character traits that put me off emerging even in season one of buffy. My overall favourite character still is my favourite and still steals every second of every scene they are in. I don’t think they will ever not delight me.
The only thing better than these reactor communities (I’ve also seen all the lovely Liam duke’s reactions etc) is the thing the internet was built for.
Fan fiction.
If you haven’t read BtVS fanfic you haven’t lived. It was my gateway drug to the rest of my life and I’ll be forever grateful to all the authors who dodged all those years of copyright infringement warnings for blowing my mind wide open and giving me the greatest gift of all….that the story never has to end.
I hate when you get things spoiled for you, even if it’s small things! Y’all just hold back and let him watch 😂
I wish I had watched angel and Buffy together first, I watched buffy a ton before I watched angel and it really made me feel like I missed out on a lot of stuff! Can’t wait to see your reactions 😊
the thing in the episode `amends` was called `the first`.
So happy you're watching Angel and BtVS together! It doesn't really matter most of the time, but there are definitely moments where you gain something from watching them "in order".
For a little while, Joss had his hand in both Buffy and Angel AND Firefly. (Please watch Firefly!)
Going forward between the 2 shows, guest staring credits at the beginning of the episodes sometimes contain spoilers for who is showing up, so careful when reading them.
Thank you for posting the Angel reviews on youtube as well. Love your reactions.
I have shipped Cordelia and Angel since the Buffy episode where she makes him laugh at the Bronze lol. On first watch I thought they had chemistry.
Yay excited for this Angel journey 💜
Off to a strong start!
@@nickreacts6394 glad you’re enjoying it 😊
I confess I rewound twice to watch your genuine, joy-filled surprise at hearing Cordelia's voice and then seeing her come on screen. I've been very excited for you to see that fun surprise.
And yes, it's been years since I've watched Angel, but - without giving any spoilers - Cordelia gets much more screen time than she did on Buffy, so I think you'll really love it. 😊
Sometimes Angel is having a better run, sometimes Buffy is. But Angel's premiere is definitely better. And I definitely like Angel better in his own show than in Buffy.
Better is mostly a matter of taste. I would say that Buffy is a lot more focused and consistent, but Angel's highs are right on par. Buffy, even when it was slogging through season 1, always knew what it was. Angel takes a while to get there. There are times I prefer Angel, purely due to its more adult themes and tone, but at the end of the day, I think Buffy is an overall better show.
Huh. I was about to say that the Best of Buffy is better than the best of Angel, but Angel is a more consistently good show.
I definitely prefer Angel to Buffy. I adore the characters and their development, whereas the characters on Buffy all kinda get on my nerves.
@@ntertanedangel That's also fair. Like I said, I see it as a matter of taste (and sometimes mood). Their qualities are pretty on par.
Love it! Watching episode 2 on patreon right now 😁 your reactions are seriously the best buffy/angel reacts I've seen. Thanks for doing this!
You are too kind, thank you! It’s a pleasure sharing these reactions with this awesome Buffyverse community :)
Thank you for posting angel! I loved your reaction to this! Very enjoyable! My reaction to seeing cordelia was about the same as yours but with a few "oh my gosh" added in for good measure
"Angel just needs a drinking problem" Angel already HAS a drinking problem XD kinda comes with the vampirism
Regarding that little black book of phone numbers, remember, Angel is old, and thus old-fashioned. He does a lot of things in ways that fell out of fashion decades earlier.
Omg!!!! Yes I'm so happy you posted this on TH-cam
“All he needs is a real drinking problem…”
He has one. And he’s a bit on the shaky side after drinking Buffy in the finale.
One of the better series opener I've ever watched. The way he took out Winters is one of the most badass kills of all time.
Ah yes. Love this. Enjoy. I was guided by my husband and we watched Buffy first and then Angel. I liked Angel more after first watches. Now they are about even for me. I think because of my age, Angel is more appealing but I still enjoy Buffy.
Angel theme song /instrumental brings back so much nostalgia.
I also like that Angel's "first mission" was a failure. Lots of great character moments for him to grow
Yes, seeing the grit, struggle, and failure in the pilot was a perfect storytelling choice, great point!
I'm FAIRLY certain Boreanaz got his Hollywood break by being approached by an agent for being a tall, good looking guy :P
But being given a card by an agent and actually MAKING it are two VERY, VERY different things.
Yes, I want to say the story goes that he was walking his dog or something? And the agent pulled over and gave him a card? Something like that. So a nice little wink in this show about the way he got started. I love that.
You’ll probably not get the same engagement with Angel as you do with Buffy, but I really hope it’s worth it to you to keep posting them here on YT! The two really do add to each other, even when they’re not crossing over. And I think you’ll love seasons 2 & 3! I’m not against creators getting money on Patreon, I’m just trying to live off of disability payments so I can’t really afford to pay for content.
He'll get the same if not more engagement from the reliable grown ups. The only possible decrease will be in the group; "adults with adolescent mindset".
This adult will be tuning in that’s for sure! I’ve been very excited to see Thor discover this series as well!
I'm definitely here for all of it too.
@@paulknight9998 so condescending
Super cool reaction!
I wish people thought more about what they write and say. So many thoughtless spoilers.
I was waiting for this reaction - I really wanted to see you react to Cordelia being in Angel :D
Thank you so so much for posting this to youtube! I love your reactions and it would really suck not to get to see your reactions to Angel as well as Buffy.
Angel series is a great show. Tone is different, and the meanings & messages are also just as important as those portrayed in Buffy. They might be a bit more obvious in this show though: Atonement. Redemption. Never stop fighting the good fight.
I watched Buffy and Angel for the first time about 7 years ago. I watched them together on the recommendation of my best friend's husband, so I really can't separate them in my mind. I love both shows - they both have amazing episodes and fantastic characters, and they work well together in my opinion. I thought you'd adore Angel, and I see you're right on track ;)
Thank you for sharing with TH-cam!
Answer to Should you watch Angel was: Cordelia so yes.
My husband and most of my friends prefer Angel over Buffy (but like both), but they also all watched the shows after they finished airing. I started watching Buffy as a teen when the first season was originally airing so I related to the high school aged characters at the time and have a real nostalgia for it, so I still slightly favor it over Angel, but both shows are great!
I watched Angel before I ever watched Buffy. When I started it I had no idea that it was a spin-off, I just happened to catch a bit of a rerun on tv one day and it caught my attention enough to keep watching. Immediately I was drawn into the show, the characters and the writing and everything were just so good. It became one of my all-time favorite shows. I've since watched Buffy, and while I adore that show, Angel will always be my favorite.
So, I watched all of Angel before I saw Buffy.
I just liked these characters more. No offense to OG Buffy fans, but Angel is my preferred show of the 2.
SPOILER(?) For me it's exactly the other way around. I watched"Buffy"first(and rewatched it and rewatched it and rewatched it)and when I finally saw"Angel"for the 1st time I couldn't get fond of the new characters(and most of the old ones were characters I can't stand)...there was *1* potential exception but she was constantly surrounded by dudes I don't like,so the entire thing was completely ruined for me in the end!X-(((
@@Nicamon Perspective and all that. I actually don't like most of the characters in Buffy. I was disappointed when I went from Angel to Buffy.
Funny how that works
To me, Angel is a good show. It has episodes, arcs, storyline that are just awesome and other that are not that good. The cast is quite good (especially season 3 and 4) and I love season 4.
Knowing what we do about Joss & his treatment of Charisma, I'm surprised that anyone likes season 4, except for a small arc about midway through the season.
@@METerrell The season itself is very good. Off course when you connect it to what we now know, it's a bit creepy but if you put that away the season is very good (especially the first half with The Beast, Angelus and Faith)
I'm definitely one who started watching Angel first, and the origin of my watching it always amuses me. I don't know if you took time to listen to the theme song for Angel's opening credits since you made sure to not watch them (good job, by the way), but it's a gorgeous theme song. It starts out with this plaintive, aching cello solo, very broody Angel mood, so beautiful, and then a beat kicks in and it rocks out like Buffy's theme does.
So this was not long after the Angel pilot first aired, I think, and they were repeating it on a Sunday afternoon, maybe to get more viewers' attention? I was sitting on the couch, folding my laundry, not really paying attention but half-listening to the TV, when that theme song came on. As soon as I heard that cello, I remember freezing in my tracks and looking up at the TV to see what was playing. And it was soooo beautiful, I was like, okay, what IS this? And then the rock beat kicked in, and I was like, okay, now you have my full attention. What IS this?? I have to know! 😆🤣
I ended up watching the entire pilot episode, and LOVED it. I loved the humor, the dark tone, the surprise twists -- not having watched any of Buffy beforehand and not knowing anything about Angel, I didn't expect Angel to be a vampire, I didn't expect that bad guy to be a vampire, I just thought he was going to be a sleazy producer, and then I really didn't expect Angel to kick him out a window! (Which I loved. Heeee.)
I agree with you too, Thor; the show definitely has some L.A. noir-ish tone to it. And if memory serves, this show came out maybe only a year or two after L.A. Confidential was in theaters, so perhaps Joss and Co. were inspired by it too? I love L.A. Confidential, so I was immediately drawn to the tone of the show, Angel's emotional struggle and broody nature, Cordelia's surprise soft edges (wasn't expecting to see her living alone and being a literal starving actor, not after the way we were introduced to her, since I didn't know her from Buffy yet), and I also liked Doyle. I just found the whole thing very intriguing and mysterious and greatly appealing. So after 1 episode, I was on board to watch Angel. Between the theme song and the pilot, I was sold. 😍
As Angel says in his last words of the pilot, "I'm game." And I was like, "YES! ME TOO! I'm game! When is this usually on? I'm watching it! Please tell me it's not been cancelled already." 😂
And then... after watching a few episodes of Angel (and seeing them reference Buffy occasionally, as you noticed in this pilot), I was like, oh man... I'm going to have to start watching this Buffy show, aren't I? That Joss Whedon, he sucked me in! (LOL) So I tracked down the first 3 seasons and binged up to the start of Buffy's 4th season and watched the rest of that series in time with watching the whole Angel series as it aired.
I'd agree that they're two different shows. As others have mentioned below, Buffy was a younger style of series. It did get serious, of course (I mean, as you know, they killed off a major character in season 2!), but overall it had a lot of humor and youthful high school exuberance, while Angel's show is like you note: very Batman in tone, very dark and moody, still funny but sadder and a little more adult. So Angel was my first foray into the overall world, and became my favorite for a long time.
I definitely love Buffy the Vampire Slayer as well, but I've always had a soft spot in my heart for Angel the series because I started with it first. They're both wonderful, though. They both have fantastic episodes and some just so-so episodes, and some infuriating episodes (lol), and overall are terrific shows. And they both have killer theme songs, but Angel's is my favorite. ❤
I hope you enjoy Angel and Buffy as you delve deeper into these 2 worlds, Thor. Have fun!! 🎉🎉
You may have noticed the Powers That Be mentioned. It's really the first time they've been talked about specifically and named, but it is definitely not the first time Angel has interacted with them.
Here they sent Doyle to him, but before they sent Whistler to him. Remember how Whistler, at the end of season 2 knew so much about Angel. It was just the same. Then, all they wanted him to do was clean up his act and follow Buffy. They knew that he would form an attachment to her and he would learn how to fight for the forces of good from her.
Beyond that, they are the ones that saved him from the daylight in Amends with the snowstorm too. In fact, they could very well be the ones who brought him back from the hell dimension. The evil one in Amends took credit for it, but it could have just been lying. It and its followers sure took their time getting around to messing with him after he got back.
In any event, this is one of those things that makes these shows so rewatchable. The Powers That Be have been around since the pilot episode, as they are likely the beings that help the slayer with her premintionary dreams, but finding out about them 3 seasons in kind of rewrites the show up to this point. So, when you rewatch them, you may notice them manipulating events now that you know they do that.
There are a number of times in these shows where you learn of something that has been secretly going on only to be told about it much later, so when rewatching, it's almost a different show. It just makes the show that much better than other ones.
I really enjoyed the thoughts and did not think it was to much. The whole analysis here is on point.
I watched the first season of Angel before Buffy. I had seen some episodes of Buffy here and there but didn't watch it a lot. I only started watching Buffy every week once season 5 started.
This is one of my favorite episodes form season 1. Never get tired of seeing Angel kick Russell out the window. Hope you keep enjoying the show.
So, my dad watched Angel with me before Buffy. He realized that he loved the writing and thought he'd give Buffy a try. I loved the text messages I'd get after certain episodes just sharing his delight in both shows.
I watched Angel first, at the recommendation of a friend, after telling him I had caught a few episodes of Buffy; which I didn't get into cause it was a little too highschoolish for me. I still haven't watched all of Buffy lol
On the other hand,I've watched all of"Buffy"multiple times over the years and I wish I never watched _all_ of"Angel".X-P
I love Angel. You're not wrong that Angel and Cordelia have chemistry. And I do love that we've got an equivalent to the Mayor already, with a background evil presence not being confronted yet.
As to why more people don't recognize the legendary Angelus, it's that he was active for 200+ years but then dropped off the face of the earth for a century.
The new vampire makeup for early Angel isn't great. They get better eventually.
Was looking forward to your reaction to the phone call and to seeing Cordy, you didn't disappoint. :) So glad you shared your thoughts on Angel. I watched most of both series as they aired but I'm working my way through them again currently in the recommended viewing order. Can't wait for your reactions to the coming seasons of both series. Take care 💜
Thank you 😊
"Buffy" was great...... But "Angel" was something else. Loved it. Loved Angel tbf. 😇 ❤
I was 9 when I saw Becoming part 2 on accident while my mom had it on, and I became obsessed immediately. I only vaguely remember Buffy season 3... But the next clear buffyverse memory was watching this episode in my room as it aired. It became my show in a way no show had ever been before, maybe because there were elements that rang truer to my life compared to Buffy, but either way I kept up more with Angel than Buffy for a long time until I could afford the box sets. Also I vibed with Cordelia, so what was I going to do? NOT watch the show with my two faves???
While I do prefer Angel to Buffy, which can be a very controversial opinion, I definitely think that together they are more than the sum of their parts.
Question: "Is Angel better?"
Answer: "Sometimes."
I've only seen the later seasons of Angel when it originally aired. Think now is a good time to finally watch it from the beginning! And omg Tina is the babysitter from Wes Craven's New Nightmare! Iconic. This reaction was fun because I know what happens so I smiled a lot at what you observed but since I have no idea how we got there, I am as equally lost as you are! Let the fun begin! Or rather continue!
For the Angel and Angelus analogy, I usually try to remind people that Angel I'd a duel being. He has a demon and a soul as two separate entities, of which the soul has control of the body. When he vamps out, the demon exerts greater control, but ultimately the soul still can maintain control over his body despite the demon being more present. This struggle was really brought to the fore with Buffy punching him until he camped. She knew in his weekend state, the demon side would overpower him momentarily to bite her, but she trusted that, as her blood gave him strength his soul would take the reigns of control back and stop short of draining her completely.
With his duel nature though, he's completely different from when his soul was removed. Angelus is just the demon part of him, which has no compassion or conscience. It even enjoys human suffering. All his actions as Angelus are actions of the demon and his soul wasn't even there. So, now back with his soul as Angel, he is fairly well absolved of Angelus' actions with the exception of retaining the memories and being punished by his conscience despite him not actually having done those things.
I swear, it was a genius move for them to give him that dual nature.
Glad you liked it. It's a good show, it will be get better and better.
My favorite fun fact is that the actor playing Angel, (David Boreanaz) Plays Leon/Squall in Kingdom Hearts 1, and it is so funny to imagine Squall (Whom originally came from Final Fantasy 8) with Angels Voice.
I originally watched Angel first. Then went and watched Buffy so it's definitely doable.
Yes we had phonebooks like that in my house until like 2007 then we got mobiles lol
i started with angel and worked backwards to buffy. i prefer angel tv series to buffy. The only characters from the buffy verse i really enjoyed were willow, tara, spike, drusilla, darla and faith not forgetting angel of course. i’m sure you’ll love the show it’s darker than the buffy verse and characters do come over from time to time but i’m not going to say which ones. take care and i’ll see you on the next angel episode. another show you should check out in your spare time is the umbrella academy. it has cool characters especially number 5
Angel definitely has a drinking problem
Cackling at some of your comments. This is gonna be a fun ride. 😂
I've watched BTVS dozens of times, but oddly enough Angel series only once (live) with exception of the pilot and crossover episodes that I've seen dozens of times. I will say I always thought Angel was a great show. Watching it live, I remember always being impressed, but I think I go back to BTVS so many times because of the characters. They feel like friends. Despite its sometimes dark themes, BTVS is also brighter and more uplifting of a show so it lends itself more to rewatching. Angel feels more like you have to be in that solemn mood to really take it on. But I have been meaning to rewatch angel for a very long time. It literally ONLY gets better. There is a villain down the line that is my favorite of any TV show, and there are personal developments for Angel that are also my favorite character arcs of any TV series, so I have no idea why my brain hasn't allowed me to rewatch angel. I think I always feel I have to rewatch buffy first and then take on Angel around season 4 but because I get so obsessed with Buffy (it's like an instant trigger the second I watch the pilot), I always want to watch ALL of Buffy without interruption, and delaying it even a few hours with Angel interwoven feels like torture. So once I start BTVS, I want to go ALL the way, seasons 1-7, no interruption. But then regret not stopping for Angel because the two shows really should be watched together to enjoy all those little crossover moments you already discovered. Knowing that, I always end up going, okay, I'll save Angel for THE NEXT time I rewatch BTVS and this time I will watch them together. But over a decade later, that's never happened. Whoopsie!
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Great reaction! Love that you're reacting to this show!
Well it really helps for a Creator to do two shows at once when both shows film in the same city Angel actually takes place in the city of Los Angeles where the series is filmed and although Buffy is shot in Los Angeles it just takes place in a small town rather than a city
On the other hand the real answer is that Joss left Marti Noxon in charge of Buffy from S4 onward.
@@Henrik_Holst irrelevant
@@erickwebster1973 So having some one else take over the entire show is irrelevant to the question of how a single person can show run two shows at the same time (aka the answer is that he never did) ? Please explain the logic here.
@@Henrik_Holst your comment is just irrelevant because one I didn't ask for it and two it nothing to do with anything that I just said now if that's what you truly believe then all that matters is that you do you don't need to prove nothing to me cuz honestly I could care less who took over what
@@erickwebster1973 If you don't want your comments to be contested then either don't post a comment on a public forum such as YT or just write a note that you don't want to receive any comments.
It is not what "I truly believe", it is what happened in real life, it's not like any of this is some secret, it was (and still is) made public when it happened.
"Did people have phone books like that?" Remember that Angel is an old soul.
The book wasn't Angels, it was Tina:s.
I was watching "live" as the shows were on tv. English is not my first language and Buffy is the show that helped me learn.
FYI: Originally, Buffy and Angel aired backed to back, and you would watch in the order "Buffy S04E01, Angel S01E01, Buffy S04E02, Angel S01E02, ...). For better cohesion, other watchlists group them differently, but keep the order inside each series and the crossovers as it should be. Either way will work.
P.S.: Best watch both shows to their ends, and THEN do your comparison of which one is better.
Fun fact about me: growing up i thought Buffy was a character in the public domain (of course I didn't know what public domain meant but just that she could be in any story) cause i grew up hearing about her and seeing her parodied and referenced. So i started watching Angel first cause it just happened to be on and I can't remember which episode but i just thought it was its own thing, and it took me a whole year to realize it was a spin off and she had her own tv show