Reminder that over the course of time, I. The future it will receive the Python 4, Python 5, I-Derby, and I-Derby ER. It’s also missing the ability to carry a few more LGBs, as well as SPICE bombs in the future. Its price will very likely go way up as it receives all of this.
Ooor Gaijin just casually forgets they ever added this as an event vehicle and then add a tech-tree variant that has all of those things you mentioned.
The Derby is really not something to write home about. As a BVR missile it's downright terrible, it still lofts, tracking time is ok but loses a lot of energy quick. But it's ok below 15kms or so(I usually fire when the tracker is on the no escape zone). The Python 3's are good but they don't have IRCCM unfortunately. The radar is good, tho. All in all it's not bad bad, but it's not too great either.
@@IceGuadian It's okay at best, but it's very poor BVR missile. IF you shoot below 15 km? It should be ok. But you can get picked off by far more reliable/more ranged missiles..
What a lot of people do with the derby is they try to call it something that it isnt. Its design was based on the Python 4. Its a heat seeking missile with a radar on the front. Asking why the Derby is bad at long range is like asking why a lamborghini is a bad pickup truck, it just isnt a long range missile. I like the Derby a lot since my play style is to get up close rather than roll some dice when firing an AMRAAM from like 30km. Its all about playstyle.
@@superalexwow4729right, it’s not like it’s rocking fakours or phoenix’s that can be slung 70+km, it’s designed like a shotgun, close range can shred with fox2’s and with the right load can slap at medium range with fox3’s
Another report, the front windscreen is supposed to be single-piece, not three-piece (even if in-cockpit its correct, the outside model is still wrong)
meh plane? dawg this thing is a rocketship with grear turnging capability, i climb to like 8-9k meters and go mach 2 and lob the missles off, and it is cracked lmfao
it cant even do mach 2- you will get smacked by either a pheonix or a eurofighter by doing that and the missiles aren't great but they work. it loses all its speed in 1 turn too so thats nice
if you know how to properly notch and chaff, then its not an issue, and if you know how to properly dogfight then speed bleed isnt that much or too bad, in duels i can beat f16's. aslong as youre a good pilot the kfir is amazing, it just takes skill to play unlike alot of other planes
It's not worth keeping. No premium bonuses so useless as a grinder. Uptiers to 13.7 and 14.0 will be hell. The Derbys and AESA radar aren't the game changer that people like to keep raving about. At the end of the day the platforms with the most ARH missiles to fire will end up getting kills more consistently and the Kfir definitely ain't it. Downtiers will be stompfests for it but in my experience they're rare. If you really want to grind the Israeli air tree the Canard is more useful
@@ashman8891 as a sim player who uses the Su-27SM quite a bit, I say this radar is a GIANT improvement. It's like going from dial up on Windows 95 to 5G
This thing is superior to the J-8F in my opinion since it carries 2 more ARH. I don't consider non-IRCCM missiles like PL-8 since they're basically useless vast majority of the time.
Yes, because it’s top tier, it can only research its tier snd one tier below it. So you can’t use it to research the Israeli tech tree fast and/or efficient as it’s not a premium plane.
@RT42069 good thing I have about 150,000 GE laying around (I buy 10,000 a month to stockpile for moments like this or for when i get a new vehicle, i immediately spade it)
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Reminder that over the course of time, I. The future it will receive the Python 4, Python 5, I-Derby, and I-Derby ER. It’s also missing the ability to carry a few more LGBs, as well as SPICE bombs in the future. Its price will very likely go way up as it receives all of this.
Thats what I like to hear
But when that's gonna happen?
Ooor Gaijin just casually forgets they ever added this as an event vehicle and then add a tech-tree variant that has all of those things you mentioned.
@@Bartix520 around in a year or something
@@super-e7m too long😭
The Derby is really not something to write home about. As a BVR missile it's downright terrible, it still lofts, tracking time is ok but loses a lot of energy quick. But it's ok below 15kms or so(I usually fire when the tracker is on the no escape zone). The Python 3's are good but they don't have IRCCM unfortunately. The radar is good, tho. All in all it's not bad bad, but it's not too great either.
I get slapped by The F-14 Irainian missiles before that's possible
The derby is far from terrible, its a very great mid range missile
@@IceGuadian It's okay at best, but it's very poor BVR missile. IF you shoot below 15 km? It should be ok. But you can get picked off by far more reliable/more ranged missiles..
@@nelsondx8054 if okay means easy kills then sure its okay
What a lot of people do with the derby is they try to call it something that it isnt. Its design was based on the Python 4. Its a heat seeking missile with a radar on the front. Asking why the Derby is bad at long range is like asking why a lamborghini is a bad pickup truck, it just isnt a long range missile.
I like the Derby a lot since my play style is to get up close rather than roll some dice when firing an AMRAAM from like 30km. Its all about playstyle.
he says DErby are good but has to shoot them at under 10 km to get kills the whole video
Ehm, U know that derby is mid-close range rockets?? Or yk what is the difference between mid range rocket and long range?
@@superalexwow4729right, it’s not like it’s rocking fakours or phoenix’s that can be slung 70+km, it’s designed like a shotgun, close range can shred with fox2’s and with the right load can slap at medium range with fox3’s
Good thing I researched the F15-E during the grind, I think I'll sell it and try to get an F-14 IRIAF or an F2G-1 or something instead
I'll never get what people find interesting about this modern plane gameplay.
Plane go fast. Plane turn good. Missile go far.
If anyone wants to do a bug report, it should have the engine the C7 has and not the C2
Another report, the front windscreen is supposed to be single-piece, not three-piece (even if in-cockpit its correct, the outside model is still wrong)
meh plane? dawg this thing is a rocketship with grear turnging capability, i climb to like 8-9k meters and go mach 2 and lob the missles off, and it is cracked lmfao
it cant even do mach 2- you will get smacked by either a pheonix or a eurofighter by doing that and the missiles aren't great but they work. it loses all its speed in 1 turn too so thats nice
@iboopy-fl2icskill issue
@@frosty8183 I'm pointing out the flaws in his arguement
It has great turning capability for about 2 turns because it loses it all of its speed
if you know how to properly notch and chaff, then its not an issue, and if you know how to properly dogfight then speed bleed isnt that much or too bad, in duels i can beat f16's. aslong as youre a good pilot the kfir is amazing, it just takes skill to play unlike alot of other planes
It's not worth keeping. No premium bonuses so useless as a grinder. Uptiers to 13.7 and 14.0 will be hell. The Derbys and AESA radar aren't the game changer that people like to keep raving about. At the end of the day the platforms with the most ARH missiles to fire will end up getting kills more consistently and the Kfir definitely ain't it. Downtiers will be stompfests for it but in my experience they're rare. If you really want to grind the Israeli air tree the Canard is more useful
@@ashman8891 as a sim player who uses the Su-27SM quite a bit, I say this radar is a GIANT improvement. It's like going from dial up on Windows 95 to 5G
I played it and its above avarage fun, i guess its a personal choice, but not worthless thats for sure
First microphone is more "comfortable" to hear. Second sounds harsher to me. Watching with phone speakers.
If it plays like the other kfirs or the kurnass 2k it should be fun to fly
Guys, do I need to buy the current furry battle pass or do I need to wait for the next one to get the t80 and kfir?
what?
@YahudiDestroyer actually I want to know about battle pass, the current one. If I buy, I will need do but again in the next mouth?
This thing is superior to the J-8F in my opinion since it carries 2 more ARH. I don't consider non-IRCCM missiles like PL-8 since they're basically useless vast majority of the time.
@@brandonbao7097 it faces a lot of F-14s, and non IRCCM missiles can definitely still hit a flaring F-14. Those engines are HOT
What i like about the derby is it can be fired while in tws mode also, so you don't tip them off to the impending critical hit lol
That's literally any ARH missile
@RT42069 yes, yes it is! You're such a smart boi
DOES IT have rp penalty?
Yes, it functions like a normal Tech Tree vehicle, you do not get any bonuses and you have penalties. Not suitable for grinding the whole Tech Tree.
Yes, because it’s top tier, it can only research its tier snd one tier below it. So you can’t use it to research the Israeli tech tree fast and/or efficient as it’s not a premium plane.
How in hell are people getting this... I have looked through everything in the game.. where can i see this thing?
Click on your name, click achivment, click winter tales
If you haven't been grinding by now, you're gonna need a lot of GE
@RT42069 good thing I have about 150,000 GE laying around (I buy 10,000 a month to stockpile for moments like this or for when i get a new vehicle, i immediately spade it)
It's the reward after getting 8 mark of diatinction for aircraft in the operation winter event.
If you haven't grinded for it you will need 8000ge to get it
Derby suck. Their over-agressive lofting completely trashes their range and speed at lower altitudes
The Derby doesn’t have over aggressive lofting anymore, this was fixed a LONG time ago.
you should use them closer than 25 km, idealy
@@Arsen-b7r I found they only reliably hit within 5km beyond that they just dump too much of their energy trying to loft
just climb high to like 7-9k meters and use the crazy speed of the kfir. shoot the missles off so they dive onto targets, its a great missle
Just played another game with the Kfir. The derby really can't hit anyone beyond 5k
this is complete bullshit. you dont even try to dodge. if im below 30m and notching with chaff i still die. what the fuck its like you are invisable