I’ve read three or four, though I’m not versed in their relative merits. I’m reading Fagles because it’s popular and frequently recommended and it’s what my school has for my students. I’ve also read Chapman because of the Keats poem, and one or two others because they were readily available. None of these are particularly scholarly reasons, obviously. If you want to talk the best translations of Dante, I can do that all day, but that’s all I can do on Homer. I will say that all of the versions I’ve tried, even the older ones, have been very readable.
Excellent video. Its been awhile since the last one I was getting worried. I guess my memory isn't 100% correct cause I thought that Patroclus would lead his charge in Achilles armor in this chapter. But I remember now that I've heard you go over the whole book 12 again. Hector is becoming more and more arrogant and full of himself(though not totally without cause like his brother Paris); and I really like pretty much all Ajax the great(with or without Teucer; I prefer Odysseus as the tag team partner but Teucer is cool too) moments; like Diomedes he's very inspiring. A super big powerful and unstoppable warrior with charisma is always gonna be a good character provided it's handled well, and it's handled expertly in The Iliad. And yeah I was thinking the same; it doesn't seem to matter too much which side has the Gods, even Zeus', favor; cause the gods pretty much NEVER follow through till the end, esp in The Iliad(and the Odyssey too for that matter). That'd be terrifying, having such a fickle pantheon of Gods "supporting" you - until the moment they decide they dont want to anymore, or someone on the other side offers some sacrifice or prayer that they like better than yours. I like the warfare of the Trojan war too; it's like a blend of classical armies(with spear and shield and armor bearing hoplites as the main body, and the anvil) with stuff from the bronze age like war chariots being such a big deal(those being the Hammer, to drive the enemy onto the anvil, a role later taken up by Cavalry, esp seen in Alexanders conquest of the Persian empire); but most of all I like the heroic duels and battles between these great and famous heroes of old. The following is gonna seem like a small thing to wonder about; but what kind of swords are they using as Sidearms in the Trojan war? The xiphos which is basically like a long dagger, it can cut but its mostly for stabbing(with a thin blade too); or something like what the Spartans used in the Classical period, those swords with a slight outwards curve to the blade(and MUCH bigger than the xiphos; able to both cut and thrust); or were they just using daggers, or something else entirely? For now I'm just gonna think of them as all armed like Hoplites unless otherwise mentioned. Not that much is known about warfare in the time of the Trojan war, which would be the Mycenean Greek period wouldn't it? That ended in the 1200s BC if I remember correctly. Anyway I VERY MUCH look forward to your next video on part 13, and the rest! I hope it comes out sooner, though you might not be able to control that. These videos are excellent. I was thinking about rereading the Iliad and I think Im gonna do it after you finish this series(I hope you do the Odyssey, and then The Aeneid, after The Iliad is finished). Maybe make a video about the events immediately after The Iliad because the books describing those events didn't survive to the modern day, like the sack of Troy from the Greek perspective for example, or the aftermath of the war and the fates of all the various heroes that survived so far. You should cover that too once the books finished.
Your comments are always excellent and informative! I’ve had a few delays the last two weeks that ate up my recording/editing time, but I got up at four this morning to get a few done before work! Hopefully, I’ll get back on track! My goal is about 3 episodes a week until I finish, though that’s a bit of a breakneck pace with my schedule. Fingers crossed!
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Which translation do you suggest?
Have you read several versions?
I’ve read three or four, though I’m not versed in their relative merits. I’m reading Fagles because it’s popular and frequently recommended and it’s what my school has for my students. I’ve also read Chapman because of the Keats poem, and one or two others because they were readily available. None of these are particularly scholarly reasons, obviously. If you want to talk the best translations of Dante, I can do that all day, but that’s all I can do on Homer. I will say that all of the versions I’ve tried, even the older ones, have been very readable.
@@Nancenotes currently reading Fagles very enjoyable and approachable
Excellent video. Its been awhile since the last one I was getting worried.
I guess my memory isn't 100% correct cause I thought that Patroclus would lead his charge in Achilles armor in this chapter. But I remember now that I've heard you go over the whole book 12 again. Hector is becoming more and more arrogant and full of himself(though not totally without cause like his brother Paris); and I really like pretty much all Ajax the great(with or without Teucer; I prefer Odysseus as the tag team partner but Teucer is cool too) moments; like Diomedes he's very inspiring. A super big powerful and unstoppable warrior with charisma is always gonna be a good character provided it's handled well, and it's handled expertly in The Iliad.
And yeah I was thinking the same; it doesn't seem to matter too much which side has the Gods, even Zeus', favor; cause the gods pretty much NEVER follow through till the end, esp in The Iliad(and the Odyssey too for that matter). That'd be terrifying, having such a fickle pantheon of Gods "supporting" you - until the moment they decide they dont want to anymore, or someone on the other side offers some sacrifice or prayer that they like better than yours.
I like the warfare of the Trojan war too; it's like a blend of classical armies(with spear and shield and armor bearing hoplites as the main body, and the anvil) with stuff from the bronze age like war chariots being such a big deal(those being the Hammer, to drive the enemy onto the anvil, a role later taken up by Cavalry, esp seen in Alexanders conquest of the Persian empire); but most of all I like the heroic duels and battles between these great and famous heroes of old.
The following is gonna seem like a small thing to wonder about; but what kind of swords are they using as Sidearms in the Trojan war? The xiphos which is basically like a long dagger, it can cut but its mostly for stabbing(with a thin blade too); or something like what the Spartans used in the Classical period, those swords with a slight outwards curve to the blade(and MUCH bigger than the xiphos; able to both cut and thrust); or were they just using daggers, or something else entirely? For now I'm just gonna think of them as all armed like Hoplites unless otherwise mentioned. Not that much is known about warfare in the time of the Trojan war, which would be the Mycenean Greek period wouldn't it? That ended in the 1200s BC if I remember correctly.
Anyway I VERY MUCH look forward to your next video on part 13, and the rest! I hope it comes out sooner, though you might not be able to control that. These videos are excellent. I was thinking about rereading the Iliad and I think Im gonna do it after you finish this series(I hope you do the Odyssey, and then The Aeneid, after The Iliad is finished). Maybe make a video about the events immediately after The Iliad because the books describing those events didn't survive to the modern day, like the sack of Troy from the Greek perspective for example, or the aftermath of the war and the fates of all the various heroes that survived so far. You should cover that too once the books finished.
Your comments are always excellent and informative! I’ve had a few delays the last two weeks that ate up my recording/editing time, but I got up at four this morning to get a few done before work! Hopefully, I’ll get back on track! My goal is about 3 episodes a week until I finish, though that’s a bit of a breakneck pace with my schedule. Fingers crossed!