Elden Ring Shadow of the Erdtree ALL Bosses RANKED (Easiest to Hardest)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 20 ต.ค. 2024
- This is a list of every red bar boss battle in Shadow of the Erdtree ranked easiest to hardest. I thought I'd be able to get this out way sooner but some of these fights took a lot longer than I was expecting. If there's anything you would of changed yourself comment down below and let me know ya boy would love to hear it. Also if you enjoyed the video make sure to Like and Subscribe for more content like this I'd really appreciate it.
This has been Lunar, and welcome to Bound.
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I forgot to add Demi swordsman yosh, just go ahead and dislike the video now I have failed you all
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The loading screen between deaths is the most annoying boss in the game
Yeah they’re really just tryna ice us out here
The pressing of the button for the non existant load screen skip button getting more and more fast as the screen goes on
u must be on console, the loading screen is so quick on pc it loads instantly L console noob
@@-tari-2881you sound so fucking lame Jesus Christ
@@-tari-2881 Indeed I am
Bayle and Mesmer, were in my opinion the most fun and fair.
Disagree with bayle there, honestly radahn after 6 hours of tries is still more fun to fight than bayle after 2
Messmer is so good!!!
I feel you on the messmer but bayle felt a bit cheesy to me, I hate fighting big mob bosses like that
Yeah, Messmer is the only boss that is hard, but doesn't feel unfair
Phase 1 Radahn too
Bayle to me was the easiest boss in the dlc mainly because of how easy it was for me to stagger him by spamming giant hunt on his tail
Your radahn recap was so accurate it was insane. I was having nightmares about the fight and got physically ill with cold symptoms that were mysteriously cured after beating him
Appreciate it homie 🤝 Yeah I felt like I was at a very low point in life during that fight lol
the thing is his recap of the first phase is just wrong? he even shows 2 scenes side by side and he is clearly in a different position in one of them, while saying he did exactly the same.. Also his combos are not as random as he says. (havent watched the video further)
funnily enough I also beat him while physically ill with cold symptoms and they got mysteriously cured right after I beat him.
Biblically accurate Radahn is by far one of if not the hardest bosses in Fromsoft history😂
One of the Hardest bosses in all of gaming history tbh😂
I love how we all have different experiences with these bosses, midra took me atleast 30 tries, while i got gaius on my third and romina on my first try
That’s part of the beauty of these games lol, It’s fun hearing what worked for some people or what didn’t, helps find new ways of playing too
Fr man, I struggled w scadutree avatar where w Messmer the first time I got to his second phase I beat him, ( I think the erdtree avatar / rykard snake dodges paid off)
Lol my list is basically the opposite. I got Midra the first try, Gaius on about the third try, and Romina in maybe the 10th try
I got Romina first try and I don’t even know how many times I died to blackgaol knight
I can’t beat midra bruh😢😢😢madness is sooooo annoying
A possible nerf i see for radahn is extend his first phase to the middle instead of being like 1/4 of the health bar
@@jorgeeduardovillalobosmena1213 if I were to nerf him I would reduce the number of holy beams or maybe adjust their hit detection so you can't be hit too frequently by them (like how some multi projectile attacks can only trigger a hit once, but maybe put like a half second delay in so you only get hit by like 1-3 at most)
I think that would make surviving him a bit less difficult overall without actually changing any numbers, the phase length is an interesting concept, but I like that the harder bit is longer
no just make the double slash dodgeable
@@fwyb3512 I would say it's too soon to say it isn't dodge-able, folks thought you couldn't dodge half of malenia's attacks for like two weeks after the base game dropped
@@Ytinasniiable i watched a lot of videos with radahn fight, and every time when he does that one attack everyone just sekiro-parried it or used a shield on first two attacks. i also tried dodgeing it, and it really is either impossible or very, and i mean very, hard
@@Ytinasniiable yeah because doing a little looney toons dance under her is a good way to dodge I guess.
Against Radahn in phase to I was roleplaying as a victim that shit was genuinely terrifying to fight against
I think I was role playing as a victim this entire DLC
Us: We want to fight prime radahn!!!!
Fromsoft: *makes prime radahn final boss*
Us: FUCK
The day I walk into a prime melania boss fight might be the day I uninstall lmao
@BoundLunar Actually, we never fought Prime Radahn. This was Miquella's controlling Radahn and wasn't Radahn using everything he could've or had. For example, he never used his collapsing stars, for example. Or his bow raining bs on you.
@@BoundLunarthankfully we already fought prime malenia so you don't need to worry
@@davidrajaruzicka5546 this was the strongest version of radahn
rellana is my favourite boss of the whole game up till now, its just such an amazing boss fight
Rellana was a great fight! Thats one of my favorites too, i didn’t even need to fight her I just read ‘twin moon knight’ and ya boy was sold
Radagns double slash into cross slash makes me want to commit tax fraud every time it hits me.
Not the tax fraud lmao
It is so validating to see so many people also hate this move
For real. I can consistently dodge most of his phase one moves, EXCEPT for that one. And if you get caught, it can stun lock you and delete your health bar with the cross slash. It's insane!
You should have mentioned in the title that this was a difficulty ranking and not a quality ranking, cuz one has nothing to do with the other. Good vid tho
Definitely a fair point I’ll make sure to throw it in the thumbnail for next time
Difficulty is part of quality. An easy boss can never be more than a one time spectacle
@@fili0938 that strongly depends on what you enjoy about the game
Also difficulty in these games rests heavily on the shoulders of your build/play style/willingness to try new strategies
You can spend 4 hours trying to learn how to dodge every move, or you can spend 20 minutes changing your build to a guard counter build or something and entirely change the dynamics of the fight
I think I entirely agree with your list with 1 notable exception - Bayle the Dread is easily 2nd or 3rd hardest. You should really go back and try him without the summon helping, because from your video it looks like he’s the only boss you used a summon on. I fought him probably 80 times and didn’t feel like I was even close to beating him… then I summoned Igon in the fight and beat him first try. Igon pulling aggro in phase 2 is extraordinarily valuable.
the summon really doesn’t help much beside shoot a few arrows and draw agro sometimes. I’ve played through the dlc twice and fought bayle with and without the summon and it didn’t really feel any easier
@@alexnota8Drawing agro is probably the bigest help u can get in a souls game. Just geting 1 free flask can go miles in a fight.
@@alexnota8 It has nothing to do with the damage the summon does. It draws aggro so alot of the bosses attacks like his beams will go on the npc not you and it makes it way easier.
I’ll definitely have to try it solo for my next run, I was only using igon because he was tired to the lil dragon communion quest
@@BoundLunar No judgments from me - I ended up using him too, and I don’t regret it. Igon being an absolute Chad was one of the best parts of the game for me.
Messmer was such an awesome fight that will stick with me for a very long time. Probably my favorite boss they have ever made.
I knew it was going to be a good fight, but damn that second phase had me just giggling like a child. So fucking awesome
I feel it, the messmer fight was probably my most favorite from the whole DLC great comment big dawg
Messmer, Bayle, Rellana were the best fights in this DLC, Radahn on the other hand.. it’s good to see him again but god what a nightmare, I literally had to switch to a heavy great shield tank build with the Ant spur rapier with a bleed infusion along side wearing high holy resistance armor to win the fight.
Well said 🤝 that build sounds cracked i might have to steal that from you lol
Honestly radahn consort is now my favorite fight in all souls games very fair and punishable anyone who says otherwise just isn't good enough no offense
@@cocorosh7295 Looool, u must be trolling... I played DS1, 2 and 3, Bloodborn and Demon's Souls and i've never seen a boss this hard and so little punishable.
@@kyzerkurosaki4999 I've also played all of them(except 2 and bloodborne) including sekiro and its just a skill issue. The thing is that DS players are used to dodging like 2 or 3 attacks and then the boss kinda stands there like "hit me" while in elden ring you have to earn those openings. In radhan 2nd phase you NEED to dodge INTO him specifically to his left/right sides depending on the move and I notice that alot of people are dodging away from him. Radahn more than any fight rewards you for staying besides him if you aren't next to him or try to run away he's gonna fuck you with his satellite lasers. There also some moves of his that are NOT safe which could explain why you think you could punish him but he just hits you in the middle of it. I could write more but I don't want to serve a yapperoni pizza
@@cocorosh7295 U do realize we also played ER in his entierty ? This so called skill issue is a dumb argument, i did not have this problem with any other boss lmao... ER was my first Souls and none of the game bosses made me sweat like that (it's the case for most of people). I did dodge into him, i tried everything, left and right too and i succeed avoiding some but a lot of his attack still touch u. The combos are extremely fast and long, he mix a lot between delayed attacks, Overpowered AOE and fast and agressive combos followed by lasers (forcing u to dodge multiple times for one single move), these lasers impacting also alot your visibility + has real strong damage, a shit ton of information to memorize in so little time since the boss just don't let u breath ... everything u do has to be perfect against him. This is just an incredibly hard boss.
You know a boss is hard when the Bloodfiend arm charge attack cheese build comes out…
Desperate times call for desperate measures
Blackgaol actually does have a special ability. If you get him low, and don’t finish him, he starts shooting a light beam out of his sword, from long distance.
Thank you for pointing that out big dawg I would have never known
You mean his Ash of War?
@@BoundLunar No problem, I wouldn't have known either, but then I got REALLY cocky at the end of the fight, and basically stood still, mocking him. Then bro spammed the light beam at me 3 times, from like 20 feet away
This is Onze erasure. That little demi-human magic swordmaster deserves the respect lol
Yeah that is 1000% my bad coach I know exactly who you’re talking about I completely forgot that
loved midra and messmer, the final boss just left a bad taste in my mouth
I feel you on that lol
Midra and Messmer are my favorite bosses, the only complaint I have is Midra Phase 2 Nuke which I can't seem to dodge even after trying a lot
@@shuvi1565 yeah, the nuke is a bit bullshit, it might be dodgeable with vow of the indomitable or raptor of the mists, but I don't think an ash of war should be necessary to no-hit an enemy
You can cheese the fuck outta Radahn with a strength stagger build and malenias great rune
@@shuvi1565yeah I tried to dodge it as well. It looks like running away from the radius is the solution as expected. Not by all means bad it just take very few round to realise
Something I was thinking watching this is that you don’t need to lock on on every boss, the big ones specially, you just stick to their back and hit
Ive tried using no camera and I always have the worst luck with it, maybe I just haven’t practiced it enough
With Radahn, there’s only one attack he has that I think might be Waterfowl levels of overtuned, but at least it doesn’t 1-shot (most of the time). He definitely took me anywhere from 100-150 tries, but I definitely felt like I was learning the whole time and that my victory was earned. I can’t wait to fight him again on my other DLC-ready characters
Glad you handled him so quick big dawg wish I was that good lol definitely an insane boss design, I know I said I don’t want to ever do it again but I’m sure I’ll end up back at that staircase at some point
I am a mage using carian slicer, when i changed my talisman to holy damage negation and dragon crest, I already knew I got this in the bag, with the last boss.
Bro is HIM
I had the same mentality, all fights I feel I’m learning the moves, improving, getting better each fight. Final boss phase 2, it’s just like if I beat him, it was just lucky, I have no grasp on this fight.
Yeah same here. Enjoyed the hell out of the DLC to get dissapointed by the final boss. Really did not like it being Radahn and the second face of the fight is just pure nightmare. Would be okay if you could see even half of the time what is going on.
Even though the bosses were more hard than base game I felt like they were more in line with ds3 bosses where there hard but fair
true if you're only dodging, use ashes of war, craftable equipment and make new and better builds to adapt against the boss attacks, it's a battle of knowledge
true if you're only dodging, use ashes of war, craftable equipment and make new and better builds to adapt against the boss attacks, it's a battle of knowledge
@@Stepp-Yomi mhm the first two times against ranella I got wrecked so I took time changed my build found some more fragments and then wasted her on my 3rd try.
That’s a great connection ds3 had some good bosses too, personally I feel like everything outside of top 5 feels like a pretty typical Elden ring fight but the last 5 are just insane, those take some crazy focus
@lights_utopia1130 bro is HIM
I think Radann was the greatest and most fun fight in Video Game history i used a faith build with the Haligtree Shield.
I could block every attack.
I had the Tailsman with Increases Blocked ability.
And the Tailsman with Increased Stamina Recovery got him on the 5th try.
And Blastfamous Blade.
Took out Messmare the Inhaler on yhr 3rd try.
I really thought the DLC was amazing.
Most bosses wemt down with the first try.
But I use everything I have available to me for every fight.
And every fight requires a different approach but.
I can block every attack from every enemy.
Its a faith Build game that really favors a Sword an Sheild.
Then you don't need to roll around and doge everything.
Great video man.
Now o now not to start mew game +3 I have alot of bosses to kill.
I haven't found the Ghostly horse boss yet.
Great comment big dawg thanks for the late game input 🤝
Messmare the inhaler ☠️☠️☠️
I really feel Radahn was designed with the deflecting hardtear in mind. I fought him at level 130 with a great katana and lions claw with no summons and won after around 50 tries. It never felt unfair, as all his attacks were able to be blocked by the hardtear. I feel like fromsoft was trying to make it hard, yes, but they also were giving you ways to make it easier without summoning. All these bosses are so much harder if you do not use a dlc build. The weapons in the dlc are built for the timings of the dlc bosses, so use a dlc weapon in the dlc.
50 tries is an insane feat great job homie, you make some great points about the DLC too it definitely feels like it wants you to use a lot of the new stuff but I personally felt more of a push to use the new items or tailsmans I never really felt like the weapon was the issue up until redahn
That’s what I feel like too. Don’t think a dlc weapon specifically helps as I used a double scythe strategy and had a lot of fun. I used the deflecting tear for a while before switching it and won after around the same amount of deaths. Was a fun fight, but was a bit unintuitive. Some attacks are still a little bit annoying to dodge (double slash into cross slash and the boulder attack in phase 2)
For the most part Radahn first phase is fine, EXCEPT for that one left, right, double chop move, NO ONE I've seen has been able to avoid that. You either dodge the left and get hit by the right, get hit by the right and dodge the left, or just die from both. On the odd moment, you CAN find a sweet spot where you can dodge both, but it's so janky you can't reliably replicate it without having incredible foresight.
I know exactly what you’re talking about that move is really annoying, it feels like you can only dodge it if a specific move is used right before so the timing lines up
@@BoundLunar I think it’s supposed to teach you too block, but my stamina is too low and it just guard breaks me
You have to either dodge really early, or I once saw someone backstep the first swing into a dodge, and honestly I hope fromsoft encourages backstepping in more fights because it’s a mechanic I never use
The guy above me is correct - there is a talisman that gives your back step the same I-frames as a roll, at the cost of taking 15% additional damage at all times.
This means that, as long as you have the reaction speed to back step the first slash, you will have time to roll the second hit as well. This is 100% consistent given you react to the first slash.
dodge in the middle at the right time and you dodge both. youre welcome.
your blunt honesty earned you a sub
My mf dawg 🤝
i noticed that a lot of people needed to respec against Radahn because of his ridiculous resistances and health. Full plating armor gives him slashing and piercing resistance, Being a carian mage gives him magic resistance, being in Mohg's body gives him fire resistance, and being a (demi)god gives him holy resistance. Good thing they didn't also make him immune to status effects for no reason like so many other games do with their bosses, otherwise i would likely have struggled a lot more that i have already. i wanted to use Rellana's twinblades for the whole run, but needed to respec to a bleed misericorde build with light roll to dodge the Rocks and phantoms, cause the only way for me to deal meaningful damage was with parries and crits. As a certified parry god i had little to no problems figuring out what attacks to parry and what to avoid, so first phase became a cakewalk after a while, but Miquella's ultra long hair and the countless beams of light in phase 2 made it really difficult to see what radahn was doing at times, and became the main reason the boss took me around 200-300 tries instead of 20-30. Like, seriously, please give Miquella braids or something so i can see what's going on. Messmer and Rellana having far better visibility in terms of special effects made then a lot easier for me to parry into oblivion as well, so they took only a small fraction of the time it took me to beat Radahn. Great boss fight tho, no bullshittery like Malenias on hit heal, one shot stabs, stagger ignoring, hyper armor, scarlet rot and waterfowl dance shenanigans. Purely a skill and reaction time check, and fully doable with a parry build. I do hope they make the fight more doable for medium roll builds and non shield users tho, cause the gravity rocks and phantom clones are borderline impossible to dodge without light roll. The complete lack of cheeseabiility compared to Malenia who you can stunlock with 2 blasphemous blades is worrying tho, so only fromsoft tryhards like myself will appreciate this boss for what it is. What i really like about the loot you get from them is that miquella's circlet doesn't come with a wig like the helmets of malenia, messmer, godfrey, etc. so it fits seamlessly into my new outfit, and i also like that the armor description tells you what Malenia said in the trailer of her fight against Radahn, "Miquella awaits thee, O promised consort."
Great input big dawg 🤝 I’m gonna have to try a parry run for this boss for sure, I’ll try to watch out for the hair lol
This is interesting. You did way better than me on the basic fights (I died 14 to death knight and 8 to blackgaol knight), but I died way less on most of the remembrance bosses. Messmer took me 35 tries, dancing lion 5, midran 19, Bayle took 4, Romina took 8, and Radahn took me 70.
That is pretty wild good shit dawg lol you’re not the first person to say something like that, it’s always pretty interesting to hear diff ppls experiences
The final boss just wanna say there is one mechanic in specific that stun locks you and it killed me like 60% of the times.
It felt like damn near every attack stun locked me lol what a fight
I loved the Mesmer and radahn boss fights. I think messmer is my new favorite boss.
I think the final boss is encouraging alot of things people do not utilize alot, like heavy defensive investment, parrying. Scarlet rot can also be helpful. I dove in headfirst with scarlet aeonia just to get it into him.
Radahn seeing a scarlet aeonia again after being cured of it 2 seconds ago
For the first time I had to go after spells like “Divine fortification” and +3 talismans to have a chance at beating him. He is brutal
Imma be honest using the stone shield actually makes him light work. You still have to manage your stamina but once you get that down he is pretty free and I did this on NG+5.
That’s a great point, I found myself trying everything I could for this fight so I was using a lot of talismans/buff items I typically don’t even think about
Commander Gaius made me punch a hole through my wall
I know a drywall guy
Did you max your shadow blessings? Bosses like romina, midra, Bayle and a few others only took 1-2 tries because they do no damage with blessjnfs
Yea, most bosses actually asside from the last one are really easy with enough blessings. I really think people complaining about difficulty are weird, this DLC is actually one of the easiest from has ever made imo. The only real challenge for me was the final boss really.
No I don’t think I got them all the way maxed I think the highest I ended up getting was like +13
@@BoundLunar no wonder you found radahn so difficult, I'm actually surprised you even managed to beat him at only +13
Beat romina on 1st try (13 blessings)
Midra on 3rd try (18 blessings)
And Bayle on 2nd try (17 blessings)
@@_lalapop yeah I probably should’ve just taken the time to upgrade but the attempts always feels so close you just get locked in a cycle after awhile lol
Romina being harder than the putrescent knight is a bit of a stretch
My ranking of the remembrance bosses and bayle would be:
11: Metyr
10: Romina
9: Dancing Lion
8: Gaius
7: Messmer
6: Scadutree Avatar
5: Midra
4: Rellana
3: Bayle
2: Putrescent Knight
1: Radahn
Hell yeah that’s not a bad list at all, everybody has different runs/ playthroughs, for every boss you thought was easy there’s somebody out there that thought it was the hardest in the DLC and vise versa it just be like that sometimes
I’m currently bashing my head against the wall against redahn on NG+8
If you don't care that much, I beat him with Fingerprint shield, heavy armor, a heavy blood rapier with Seppuku (I used the Godskin's Stitcher), damage negation hard tear and the stamina regen crystal tear. The strategy involves blocking while attacking. When he goes on his 20 hit combos, you poke him while he attacks your shield. For talismans, I put the one that increases your blocking efficiency, the Pearl drake shield talisman that boost non-physical negation when blocking, the new two headed turtle talisman, and the golden braid talisman that increases holy negation by the utmost. (In NG+ 20, and yes, I am aware it stops at NG+ 7 [Just in case])
NG+8 holy crap you are a DEMON 😂 I wish you the best of luck big dawg, today is your day
@@Kasedezu awesome thanks I’ll give this a try for sure, I’ve seen people on their first play throughs and man I messed up using my NG+8 character lol
@@BoundLunar haha yessir🙏🏻 I almost swapped to my character who isn’t on a NG+ but realized I didn’t have all the talismans and stuff I needed so just went face first into it
Honestly it is interesting to see other gamer's opinion on ER bosses, cause honestly never in a million I imagined someone putting Bayle on the 6th spot cause he is literally the boss that gave me the most trouble after radahn and I felt like the rest of the bosses were easy specially Messmer but dam despite beating him in 3 tries...he was literally my fav beside Romina and Bayle.
There’s a death blight divine beast dancing lion. It’s in the rauh ancient ruins and wasn’t hard cause I was already high level but the death blight is crazy and he spawns toads
Thank you for pointing that out I 100% forgot about that
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I can’t get over how true this is for me as well, I literally managed to beat him only because he didn’t do any of his flying attacks near the end.
Felt like I won the lottery
so you had like zero scadu blessings when you fought radahn? when i fought radahn each attack barely did like 10%, its just cuz how fast he is
I’m not sure exactly how many I had, I had it up at like +13 but homie was still dealing some crazy dmg
@@BoundLunar Golden Braid and Dragoncrest shield talismans seems almost necessary, I swear
@@BoundLunar they got buffed so +13 is prob like 80% damage neg instead of like 40-45% but that’s wack he 2 tapping you with your shit being that high
@@joeyshaver9658 that's not at all how the rebalancing works.
@@joeyshaver9658lmao no it is not. It’s now more like 43%-48% instead of 40%-45%
As someone on ng+14ish (ik it caps it difficultly scaling at ng+7) Radahn was just straight up unfun to fight phase 1 was actually really cool and fun and phase 2 feels like actual torture
That sounds like HELL
Frankly, the bosses (especially endgame) feel disjointed. They feel like Bloodborne/Sekiro bosses, but Im stuck with DS3 healing, which is a BAD matchup.
I'm definitely worried about FromSoft if Consort Radahn is there new level of difficulty. If they keep uping the challenge and pushing their players, the core players that brought FromSoft this might might be pushed away, ironically.
Fr, I wish they stick with the core design of "hard but fair" instead of just "hard"
As much as I don't mind the difficulty. I really don't wanna spend more than 2 hours on a boss, unless that's what people define as fun .-. the five minutes of happiness that you get from beating a boss is not worth it imo
Even if radahn is persay a new ‘bar’ when it comes to difficulty I don’t think we’d ever see an entire game that’s something like this, even with this DLC it’s not like EVERY fight is insane levels of craziness, there’s still plenty typical fights we’re commonly used to
About the last point, the good news is that I do think they know they effed up, most of the community are using exploiting tactics to defeat him and I don’t see many people defending this boss fight, I do think a nerf is coming
I love how different all our experiences are! Rellana was by far the hardest boss for me. I usually play about 3-4 hours a night gaming and it took me about 3 nights to beat her. On the other hand radahn took about 2 nights and i found him to be pretty fair (still some attacks that are kinda impossible to dodge) and i thought he was awesome.
Still i respect this list and it just shows how different elden ring bosses are compared to regular souls games. There was a guy who said it perfectly when he said: in usual fromsoft fashion youll have 3 bosses you destroy that others STRUGGLE with and then youll have 3 bosses you get destroyed by that others decimate.
Couldn’t of said it any better it’s always great hearing how different playthroughs go, appreciate the comment big dawg you’re a real one 🤝
Fromsoft did not cook this time with that final boss 😭🙏
After beating him 3 times
Honestly he might be my 2nd favorite boss. No other boss had me focus as hard as I did with that damn boss
They might have cooked TOO hard honestly 😂
With the Lamenter fight, he has a mechanic wher he instant kills you if enough summons have despawned by timing out. For every summon that lives until they time out a thing starts revolving around you neck. If these revolving pieces form a complete circle around your neck, you instantly die. These pieces do not dissapear untill the fight is over. So you are basically on a timer that you can stall by killing as many summons as possible.
That is some great info thanks for the comment my man 🤝
Final boss was genuinely so bad it ruined my entire vibe, like its really cool dont get me wrong, but like its just straight up not designed well. only boss in elden ring ive ever had to cheese and by cheese i mean i used the sekiro deflection tear. I feel like if they made it two separate fights like gehrman and the moon presence it wouldve completely saved it, because that first phase is completely fine, but the second phase is just....bruh
Yeah the second phase is just unreal
If you didn’t know, lamented has a mechanic where it’ll insta kill you sometimes. You get skulls around your head and you eventually die. I have no idea what triggers it though.
That’s a great point to bring up I definitely didn’t know about all that, thanks for the comment 🤝
Pretty sure you get skulls based on how many clones are left before they disappear
Hot take: I think Radahn was actually a good ass boss along side bayle messmer dancin lion and midra
Me too, he is unfathomably hard, but the amount of joy you get by finally beating him is wonderful
I think my biggest problem with Radahn was just all the visual clutter, specifically in the second phase. All the light beams coming out of the ground make it hard to see what he's going to do next and that help doesn't considering you have to react fast to a lot of his moves. Also I had trouble seeing myself when sticking close to him because Miquella's hair was obsuring my screen as well as the light beams. Other than that, I do think he is a good boss, albeit just an incredibly hard one.
In hindsight it actually was an extremely well made boss, it just feels like hell in the moment
Respect for real death numbers Bayle
Respect for the comment 🤝 appreciate it big dawg
Yeah some how i feel rahdan is gonna be nerfed again if just a little
As much as I hate nerfs, he kinda needs it.
The guy needs to lose a third of it’s hp to feel fair, I don’t think a little nerf will do it
I could see that
Messmer is by far my favorite boss of Elden ring then Melania so satisfying to learn his combos
Hell yeah dawg that was a great fight
I’m surprised you tried Radahn 400+ times and still didn’t memorize him! I know it varies from player, but to me radahn is 100% fair. All of his attacks can be dodged and his punish windows are frequent enough to still make it feel like a dance. It all comes with learning his move set, dodging optimally, then kicking his ass 😂
Trust me I definitely started to get a feel for the 1st phase but the 2nd phase was just unreal I couldn’t understand anything lol, maybe it was the nerves
First comment about Radhan I actually agree with on this video. People crying that he's unfair and needs a nerf is very funny.
I gotta agree tbh. I’m on my second play through and I’m just doing Radahn for fun, not to kill. It does demand close to perfection, but I wouldn’t expect less from a Fromsoft DLC final boss. It’s seriously so much fun to not only learn the attacks, but dodge 3 combos back to back flawlessly. Top 5 Fromsoft boss to me no question.
After about 50 attempts i got phase 1 nailed down but phase 2... Those light beams always catch me after rolling. The afterimage attacks aint too bad because they don't hit too hard. I was fighting him for about 5 hours and i wasn't counting my deaths but it was probably 100-150. Once you get the moveset down its such a fun fight and it made me a better player overall.
100% fair? my man with respect ur opinion sucks, I beat radahn in 4 hours in about a 150 tries (no shields no bs), that is not a flex cause I am allready a souls veteran and honestly this fight is not fair and sucks, first phase yeah is pretty close to perfect except that 1 2 to slash attack ( this attack literally is bs , most of my deaths came from this attack in his 2nd phase) and yeah it is dodgable with a low weight roll but even with low weight roll it is still need a perfect timing that is bs and do not make any sense but still despite that I loved the first phase.
now second phase bruh come the fuck on, I am literally dodging based on my instinct and predictions.....I can't see shit....literally I see no telegraph no animations, too many particles in my face , and I literally feel like miquella's hair is poking my eyes through the screen, not to froget that radahn is absolutely too big for the camera....yeah the camera in this fight sucks.
I personally loved radahn as a fight, it did feel like the dance you said the games revolve around to me! I one hundred percent respect your experience and opinion though, at first the boss seemed oppressive to me but after the first 10 tries I could SEE THE NUMBERS, I was in a flow state for the first phase and after that I could do phase 1 hitless for ever try afterwards until I locked down phase 2. In my successful attempt I had 10 out of 12 red flasks left and 1 blue left.
For context I used a pure strength build with giants crusher the standard golden vow+ FGMS.
It was hard at first looking for opportunities but I found a style that worked for me and learned exactly which attacks I could and could not punish!
Edit: I was also Scadutree blessing level 17 when I beat Radahn, so not maxed but had a decent bit of exploration under my belt. Beat him in about 25-30 tries
Great comment big dawg 🤝 the first phase I started to feel the rhythm for things but the second phase was just comin at me way too fast lol
@@BoundLunar I get that honestly there’s so many effects going on in phase 2 that it’s a bit overwhelming. What helped me is treating it just like phase 1 for most of the attacks. At least for me the same dodge timings worked for all his combos from phase one. They just look a lot scarier because of the explosions afterwards, but that could just be my super tanks build.
I’m starting to sit at the boss door and put my summon down to help everyone get through this amazing DLC!
underrated vid
Now that’s my dawg 🤝
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Messmer has for sure taken the spot as my favourite boss of any game. The whole time it felt fair and when I died it was a skill issue, he took me about 30 attempts, first 10 I either got no hits in or barley managed to do 5% of his health bar but the last last 10 were so close. Learning his patterns and knowing how and when to dodge certain attacks and how greedy I could get with punishes was so fun. It felt like one of the only bosses I was forced to just get good instead of get lucky. Bayle is also worth mentioning for the sheer cool factor, he beat the crap out of placidusax and is now chilling on the jagged peak with one leg. Radahn.. man, I thought the fight was close to impossible, I remember my first 20 attempts just felt like fighting a boss I was too underleveled for. Phase 2, even after probably close to 70-80 attempts I still have no idea how to dodge most of his attacks. I eventually beat him but I needed a spirit ash for sure, I've never seem to need one I've always been stubborn but this boss was just too hard so I sucked it up and dealt with it. I think it's fair to say he needs a nerf sheerly just because he seems to require more luck rather than skill in my experience, but I mean i've seen people no hit him so maybe we all just need to git gud. Loved the DLC 10/10 For Sure. Messmer is the GOAT
Well said my man thank you 🤝
Radahn needs a nerf and I'm actually sick of people thinking the difficulty is fine.
It isn't
Ye every attack he does is a flash bang and the the light beams being made to roll catch u every time
They actually just patched the DLC recently so the scadutree fragments buff you almost more than previously, I haven’t tried it myself yet but the scaling looks like it should be a lot more manageable now
Honestly, 2 things i would change: the double slash to X should not be a confirmed hit on 1/2 of the starting slashes and 2nd the little pebble hits that lead into a 1 shot aoe
yeah i got flamed by a bunch of idiots after saying his fight isn’t fair. i beat him on ng+5 which yes i understand is my own problem, but his timings are dumb on some moves. getting flashbanged and having one window to attack in a decade. i think this fight is very close to being really good, but a few attacks need tweaking. the only response people can come up with is “git gud” because they literally have no original thought of their own and gatekeep a boss that they beat on the easiest difficulty with broken builds.
@@xeaz2166yeah the light beams dont JUST make you Dodge, they make you Dodge in a specific direction to every attack as to not get caught. They literally make the skill floor even higher from just that
Radahn really was tough as hell man. Still finding Malenia harder though, never beaten her without abusing something OP and I beat Radahn w/ the new Sword of night Katana in 80 tries. Quality wise I really loved Messmer and Bayle. I think Messmer is the best boss in Elden Ring together with the normal Radahn, while Bayle coming close to Midir for best Dragon ever
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Bayle is the best dragon fight in the series, his fire attacks force you to attack his head and not just attack his legs like many other bosses.
Yeah I’ve also heard a few other people say the same thing, personally if you’re not supposed to attack his body I don’t think you should be able to do dmg to it at all and they should make the head model a bit bigger
i wonder why you try soloing bosses which where perfect designt to fight with your ashes and summons ...its like a task or some to beat them without summs ? if so you cant talk about balance ..anyway beside the fact there are now acm , its just a show off , to beat them without , its nothing like a true from fan wouldnt use summons , cause every game has his own mechanics if you play fromsoft ,,,like sekiro , game tells you , you need to parry ...and funny fact , no one try to ignore parry , to be a real soulsfan ... now the mechanic is summon, or ask yourself guys , why , they even keep in mind to buff the summons in the dlc , as an extra ;)...anyway divine 2 trys , rellania 6 trys , game isnt hard if you play it right
because not using summons is also fun! For me, I don’t get as much satisfaction from using summons as without. My first base game playthrough was super mimic tear and I never realized how hard the game could be. Playing again without summons made me have a new love for the game and I haven’t used them since (besides the Leda gank fight because F Moore) and I just beat the dlc on NG+ 5 after fighting the final boss for like an entire day straight
Summoning for the final boss barely does anything. If you summon at the very start your mimic will be near death by the second phase, so it dies instantly once the second phase starts. And it'll only last a minute or 2 if you summon at the start of the second phase. So you'll have to handle 30 percent of the bullshit light attacks.
@@w8909-j9yidk the the double npc+mimic tear was good enough
The summons are definitely a helpful mechanic, I’ve used them in other base game runs but it’s certainly a more rewarding experience to beat them by yourself because absolutely nothing can be taken away from that. And by now we are ELDEN LORDS we don’t need the help of peasant mimic tears, we defend the lands between ourselves
@zebass7286 couldn’t of said it any better 🤝
Last boss stories gave me nightmares so I equipped heavy armor, fingerprint hield, Sword lance and holy negation spells. Killed him in 5 tries lol, shield strat is busted
Bro is HIM 🤝 I’m gonna have to try a shield next time forsure
Messmer is definitely the best boss, I like hard bosses but like 2nd phase PC Radahn has moves that I swear on my life cannot be avoided.
Messmer was a great fight no doubt
gimme your life then >:)
The final boss was amazing. Extremely difficult but ultimately fair. His light clones can be blocked/deflected with every weapon. The light pillars after each attack just forces you into tigheter roll angles. He gives ample of healing oprutunities. The only thing i don't know what to handle is the tree peice combo ending in a cross slash but there is probably some way to dodge it. 10/10 it was horrible.
Hell yeah dawg 🤝 and You’re honestly not the only one I’ve heard a huge % of ppl say that same exact thing about the 3 swing that ends in the double slash
Man, that jumping summersault by Radahn is so Shinobi Owl 🫣🤭
for radhan just use a big shield and a Heavy Thrusting Sword, with that you can defend and attack at the same time while he attacks you
Im definitely gonna have to try a shield build for this sometime soon 🤝
@@BoundLunar nice tell me how it goes
My favorite boss was bayle not because it was an easy fight but because it the coolest boss and fight of the dlc for me.
Hell yeah man I’ve heard him get a lot of flack lately but I feel you I thought it was overall a pretty solid fight
Never heard of your channel before but just letting you know this is a very well made video for how small you are. Im subbing
You’re an absolute legend thank you big dawg 🤝
You missed a mechanic with the lamenter. If there are clones left when he laughs it puts that many stacks of lament on you. At a certain number you succumb to lament.
That is a great point thank you for adding that, I didn’t get enough experience to personally see that effect
@@BoundLunargreat video. I truly agree. That radahn fight feels like it comes straight outta kingdom hearts. But you ain't sora. It took 8 hours for me, my mimic and Ansbach to bring that mf down on ng±4
Oh so that's why i instadied, i was so confused 😂
I like how people are saying radahn is unbalanced... You actually have to learn the boss and not trade hits, learn to dodge and its a masterpiece of a fight, same as melania
Stick closely to Radahn's left side, makes the fight significantly easier
Thanks for the tip big dawg I’ll definitely try that on my next run 🤝
Yea man that Radahn fight is way over the line. I used finger print shield and blood poke…. Really not other chance for me. Congrats on doing it proper that’s a feat very few can say they have
Appreciate it big dawg 🤝
Seeing the radahn death count, holy shit i admire your persistance
That man had me in a headlock so tight I started seeing stars
Nice video... Btw, gaol = jail for our American friends across the pond. Gaol is how it used to be spelled ❤️
Appreciate the comment and info big dawg 🤝 I would have never known
bayle is objectivity the 2nd hardest, opinions will vary depending on when you fight him since he’s optional but his bag of tricks and damage should easily push him up
I found rellana quite easy and only took me about 12 tries, but dancing lion took me well over 80 tries. This DLC really does have varying experiences of difficulty for different players
Yeah it’s always pretty interesting to hear other people’s experiences with the games, crazy how different two runs can be
If you keep the right distance when the dancer does the dance move, she seems to literally dance forever because NPCs dont run out of stamina, you have to get in close to get her to finish the dance lol
That actually makes sense thanks for the tip, it definitely felt like she was just going forever lol
I mean bro it all depends on the build you’re using obviously. I played the dlc on ng+7, not because I wanted to, but I went too far with the playthroughs and I didn’t want to restart just to play the dlc without all the weapons and talismans I had on ng. Most bosses killed me one shot or two shots but using a tank build always got me through without too much pain. Obviously it wasn’t that hard due to the fact that blocking with the shield and attacking with the spear granted me a safe way to beat them and I saw multiple people started using that for the dlc. Bosses like rellana or messmer truly made me angry but they didn’t take me more than like 30 att each. I beat radahn in like 20 att. I hope not to see people saying that my build is skill less and that I kinda “cheesed” the bosses like I heard so, because those are the dumbest comments ever. I used a shield and a spear/rapier all the way from demon’s souls to elden ring (obviously couldn’t with bloodborne) and most people can’t beat bosses like midir even with the most op build watched on TH-cam. It’s not about playing with skillful or not builds, it’s about playing smartly or simply over complicate bosses using riskier builds.
I mean yeah if it’s in the game then it’s there for a reason and can/should be used I wasn’t tryna discredit anyway people choose to play, I mainly just said it because I was deviating so hard from my original build it honestly felt like I was cheesing myself more than anything, I’ve actually heard alot of great things about that spear/shield build too I’ve been wanting to try that
Just recently beat Radahn. I've never been so satisfied.
Hell yeah big dawg congratulations 🤝 these games are always the most rewarding experiences out there, it’s truly unmatched
i hate when people use the term "cheese builds" like u are given tools are those tools are meant to be used. just cuz u make a fight easier for yourself doesnt mean its a cheese build
Great comment 🤝
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Mesmer was easily the most annoying. Took me two hours. Radahn was just so unfair it didn’t even make me mad when I got close. I thought he was invincible. Took me 6 hours at ng 7
Ng7 oh my you’re on straight DEMON TIME
I didn't struggle with Radahn because I realised it pretty early that Fromsoft got Sekiro Nostalgia with the Deflect Hardtear and made all the bosses thinking players should not be trying to dodge.
After getting my butt kicked by Rellana and later Messmer and Midra a bunch, it was pretty easy to extrapolate the "deflect and maybe dodge" to "fuck this I ain't never dodging again" with a Greatshield.
I'm sure yall seen that Let Me Tank Him guy.
Yeah I’ve heard quite a few other people say that parrying is the move for radahn/this DLC I’m definitely gonna have to give that a try sometime soon
Also yeah I saw that let me tank him guy beat radahn it was quite a sight to behold lol
The fact that everyone is going great shield+ spear to defeat radahn just shows how fucking BS he is, not only that but then he starts putting Holy AOEs with the area of the arena and has a shitton of hp if you even summon,
And for what, a 10 second cutscene????
Remember back then in DS2 when you defeated all 3 crowns, Vendrick would give you a buff so you could never be hollow again? Now that's a good dlc reward
Fromsoft really needs to reconsider their philosophy while making bosses, stop making them with sekiro ass combos while our character still rolls like dark souls
Sekiro ass combos with dark souls rolling that’s honestly a great way of summing it all up
I totally feel you with Radahn, had to switch from dex build to strength, then back to dex with dryleaf, back to strength and finally I chose to cheese the guy with the spear and shield. First phase is great, but the second makes no sense.
I thought I was goin crazy switching up my stats so much I’m glad I wasn’t the only one lol
man watching this just shows how subjective this game can be. The bosses you have higher up I killed first or second try while the ones towards the bottom I struggled with and took multiple attempts (aside from radahn and messmer)
Yeah there’s definitely a lot of different variables that change the experience for people in this game
@@BoundLunar yeah and builds as well. I have found sorcery to be extremely good vs the sunflower boss and bayle, but for messmer and radahn I have barely found enough time to even cast spells.
My experience with Radahn was really funny. Took somewhere between 10-15 attempts at him both alone and with my friend, respecced 4 times.
Then said fuck it, respecced back to 80 strength, grabbed the Two-Handed Sword Talisman and my Heavy Golem Halberd and took his ass to town in two runs.
Its a demanding fight, you cannot half-ass your build if you want to do appreciable damage while staying alive.
Crimson Seed Talisman +1 my beloved
Bro is HIM 🤝 that is a highly respectable feat
@@BoundLunar Gonna be real, the Two-Handed Talisman and Crimson Seed +1 did most of the heavy lifting.
Ditching my shield and using the talisman took me from around 900 damage per hit to 1300 and 2100 when I could squeeze a full charged heavy in (guaranteed after he does the spinning dive attack he opens the fight with)
But Crimsons Seed, by god. Having my flasks heal me for almost 70% of my massive healthbar instead of less than half had me strolling comfortably into Phase 2 with 7 flasks instead of my usual 2.
Absolute game changer.
@@rythmiccoma2809 the two handed got a ton of use from ya boy but I honestly didn’t use alot of the heal tailsmans i probably should’ve tried that out too
Just a pointer, when you see "Gaol" it's just another name for "Jail" 👍👍 Old way to say it in the UK
Thanks for the info big dawg🤝 I would have never known that
Messmer gives pretty good opens when you dodges correctly his attacks
Out of all the top 3 messmer forsure felt like the fight that I got the most hang of, once you actually start to learn the moves it’s definitely a really fun fight but in the beginning it feels like you have damn near no breathing room
Personally switch Bayle and Rellana and this is a perfect list great video!
Thanks big dawg 🤝
Consort Radahn is near perfect for me. What holds him back from being S tier is his undodgeble attack when he starts swinging from the left plus the lightspeed attacks during phase 2
I had 20 blessings, dmg negate charm and holy negate charm and wearing 2 pieces of solitude armour, and his dmg was manageable.
I could use up all my flasks before dying (sometimes)
I spent properly 2hrs learning his moveset then found his weaknesses, Frost and Rot.
Once i added that to my mix, he went down.
2nd phase is alot and very hard to find how to dodge.
Same story, went through the entire DLC with the same build. Only had trouble with the Scadutree Avatar but after some slight adjustment to my build I got him quite easily. But the Consort Radhan fight made me loose my mind. Tried 5 different complete respecs and with the last build I was like; if I cant beat him now, im not going to beat him at all. With a good amount of luck I was able to beat him. I was on ng +3 though. So I hope in a first playthrough he isnt that absolutely terribly impossible.
I feel so many people strugled with fast bosses but I just used a godskin peeler with 127 frost build up and blood hounds step and barely even got hit sure bosses took a bit more to kill but I usually got them 2nd or 3rd try after learning there moves.
That sounds pretty cracked I’ll have to try that 🤝
What did you mean Igon barely does something against bayle, he puts the hardest lines in the entire dlc
CURSE YOU BAYLEEEEEEE🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️
Facts I didn’t even mention the voice lines 😂😂 best part of the fight by far
I don't get people complaning so much about radahn, the second phase sure has a lot more damage, but the same dodges do the work, just dodging foward or left-foward do the work in every combo he has, Malenia was much much harder... I could say that his meteor fall and that piller of light is bullshit, but then we have waterfowl dance which is far worse to me, even 2 years later after knowing how to deal with...
You honestly bring up some good points, personally I thought the redahn fight was absolutely insane but there’s definitely an argument to be made for the malenia fight, that could honestly be a whole video just talking about that lol
@@BoundLunar I mean, in the end, its in part a matter of opinion, is hard to say, completely objectively, which boss is hardest, because, the way you like to play, build, all that matters when fighting these bosses and I met people whose hardest bosses was really easy for me, and vice versa, that's why, in the DLC, for me atleast, Bayle was the hardest, because I play agressive, and Raddahn for all his insane combos, atleast he is in your face when he is done, Bayle sometimes after his combos just fucking flies away and breaths fire across the whole damn arena, and that was really tough to deal, so regardless, it was a good ranking
First Phase Radahn was hard extremely hard but fair, second phase feels bullshit with no room to counter him I havent beat him yet the longest time I spent on the other DLC bosses like Mesmer and Rennala is like a few hours, I'm at day 2 of Radahn attempts now
Couldn’t of said it any better, the 2nd phase feels UNREAL compared to the first, I wish you the best of luck big dawg 🤝
Radahn is absolutely brutal. The second phase is honestly unfun-- though I will never forget the first time he recreates the comet attack in phase II and it was jaw-dropping.
I feel it 100%, definitely wasn’t enjoying myself on P2 as much as P1
I defeated Gaius first try?! Was I extremely lucky or did fragment lvl 12 trivialize the fight?
Also Radahn killed me the most, even though he was the only boss I allowed myself to use mimic tear/rot breath. A good nerf for him would be just to reduce the brightness of the holy explosions, I couldn't read the attacks because I couldn't even see them 😭 (also making him have two lock in points would be a great QoL improvement)
That’s an insane feat for gaius good job big dawg, I’ve heard quite a few people say they’ve struggled on him, and that sounds like a great change for the radahn fight the holy attacks are insanely bright
@@BoundLunar thanks man, the fight started not so great, he punished me a lot for healing at first, but I managed at the end. I was wondering if it was because fighting him without Torrent could be perhaps easier.
@@ciromarin5716 I tried torrent out too and it’s definitely hard to stay on horseback the entire time but I actually found it pretty helpful to use for creating space real quick whenever I needed to get a heal or FP flask off
Beast advice for Messmer is whenever he does a combo where he coats the spear in flame, there is a punish or heal window at the end of it. And don't be afraid to heal after these combos, instead of doing damage. Can't attack if you die to the next hit because you chose to punish instead of heal. 👌
I’m definitely bad about that I’ll try going for a hit when I really should just heal but I swear 95% of the time it’s because I think I’m about to get a stance break off and I’m just doing everything I can for that😂 when it is a stance break it’s great because I get some dmg and a heal off but it’s rough if it doesn’t work no doubt
@BoundLunar Damn straight. It's a tough mind game to beat. 😌
Great video. I hope you make more Souls stuff
Appreciate it big dawg 🤝 I try to play every souls game (that’s not a PlayStation exclusive), I should have a couple more vids for SOTE then ya boys gettin ready for black myth wukong