AI & AI, you need AI, after AI comes AI, and without AI, you will be in need of AI, so we added NPU to bring AI to Mobile space, even if there is no performance benefit
I think it's less about performance, and more about data. These npus will learn how the user interacts with the product, and that data will be collected by whatever vendor implements these things. Data is digital gold, Ai isn't the product, you are.
I wish they would show us, actually SHOW US what these NPUs will be for. How do they compare with the non NPU chips. Can I please just get a more powerful CPU with no NPU for future gen. PRETTY PLEASE 🙏
Ai so far is only useful for 1 thing: Prototyping for people who know what they're doing e.g. creatives or programmers (creating boilerplate code). Ai for the regular consumer is still largely a gimmick, at least I don't know of any consumer application which would warrant the hype. Well there is one, which would be a search engine that filters trash but we're still ways off on that.
> a more powerful CPU with no npu for future gen Nope, not on Microsoft's watch. As far as i can tell, they try to shove ai stuff into everything so they probably stroke deals with chip makers to get a hardware acceleration, and i suppose at some point in the near future they could say they cannot he bothered to support windows on NPU-less chips
There are plenty of people who do, but not a typical gamer. On the other hand there are plenty of people who work for a living using their PC or MAC where AI functionality is already in the software they use. I mean a search for software that uses AI spits out a pretty hefty list. But yeah the typical gamer/TH-cam watcher is going to keep bashing AI, until games start incorporating it into the logic of the game and AI affects the way the game flows. THEN a lightbulb will come on.
6:00 bullshit, how can you be so disconnected? All people ask of Intel for about the last 5 years, is improvement in terms of efficiency. Gamers are using 5800X3Ds/7800X3Ds, thats the hard truth. I want Intel in my Laptop because of Thunderbolt but you guys keep blasting watts into your lineup for a few % of performance, stop that.
Someone at PC World ask Intel, where is Battlemage and how come there was not even a demo of their new GPU's. If they want to compete with Nvidia they need to show something, at least on a 4070/4070 Ti level.
@@POVwithRC It wouldn't have been if intel released battlmage GPUs or like I said a demo. Something to compete with and give us more choices. I'll stay with Nvidia but if battlemage was cheaper and very close to matching Nvidia I would have changed.
I wish they could make a chiplet based npu. If they can sell a cpu with fewer core chiplets and more npu chiplets then I would love to buy it if it’s really performative. If we could get somewhere between 70-100 AI TOPS then that’s a phenomenal step. Why not just buy a gpu? Well you can have a lot cheaper but slower ddr5 memory compared to a gpu with soldered and expensive vram. The Apple m1 ultra showed that it’s possible to get decent tokens per second response times with slower memory. I would love to buy a professional workstation cpu and motherboard if it meant we could get an APU that’s really good for AI inferencing.
AI, AI, AI Yes, AI Yes, most people gaming and watching TH-cam videos (reading this? YOU) don't get it. That doesn't change the fact that a few million people already do get it and use it and work with it and within the next 5 years you're going to be using AI assisted software whether you use certain features or not. In fact many of you already do, Win11. Yes, it's not surprising that a TH-cam channel has to figure out how to benchmark AI because they don't even use the AI features in the software THEY use, which most use Adobe for editing video. You don't NEED AI for typical video editing, but for those that are going to be working in professional studios assisting in making scenes for movies, THEY are going to understand AI and what it does for THEM. Bash away people, in a decade you're going to be using AI in some fashion. But you already interact with a world that's using AI to do different things you need, the simple one being you make a phone call to a company.
AI & AI, you need AI, after AI comes AI, and without AI, you will be in need of AI, so we added NPU to bring AI to Mobile space, even if there is no performance benefit
I think it's less about performance, and more about data. These npus will learn how the user interacts with the product, and that data will be collected by whatever vendor implements these things. Data is digital gold, Ai isn't the product, you are.
I wish they would show us, actually SHOW US what these NPUs will be for. How do they compare with the non NPU chips. Can I please just get a more powerful CPU with no NPU for future gen. PRETTY PLEASE 🙏
Ai so far is only useful for 1 thing: Prototyping for people who know what they're doing e.g. creatives or programmers (creating boilerplate code). Ai for the regular consumer is still largely a gimmick, at least I don't know of any consumer application which would warrant the hype. Well there is one, which would be a search engine that filters trash but we're still ways off on that.
> a more powerful CPU with no npu for future gen
Nope, not on Microsoft's watch. As far as i can tell, they try to shove ai stuff into everything so they probably stroke deals with chip makers to get a hardware acceleration, and i suppose at some point in the near future they could say they cannot he bothered to support windows on NPU-less chips
sounds good even if it appears no one else understand the benefits of a NPU picking up task that the GPU had to do.
There are plenty of people who do, but not a typical gamer.
On the other hand there are plenty of people who work for a living using their PC or MAC where AI functionality is already in the software they use. I mean a search for software that uses AI spits out a pretty hefty list.
But yeah the typical gamer/TH-cam watcher is going to keep bashing AI, until games start incorporating it into the logic of the game and AI affects the way the game flows. THEN a lightbulb will come on.
6:00 bullshit, how can you be so disconnected? All people ask of Intel for about the last 5 years, is improvement in terms of efficiency. Gamers are using 5800X3Ds/7800X3Ds, thats the hard truth. I want Intel in my Laptop because of Thunderbolt but you guys keep blasting watts into your lineup for a few % of performance, stop that.
Someone at PC World ask Intel, where is Battlemage and how come there was not even a demo of their new GPU's. If they want to compete with Nvidia they need to show something, at least on a 4070/4070 Ti level.
They need to compete with themselves and Radeon first
@@TheSickness Then I guess they will be non-existent to me when it comes to Intel and GPU's 😁
@@-INFERNUS-oh no the horror
The rumour is battlemage went back to step 1 so they can compete with the latest GPUs....@@-INFERNUS-
@@POVwithRC It wouldn't have been if intel released battlmage GPUs or like I said a demo. Something to compete with and give us more choices. I'll stay with Nvidia but if battlemage was cheaper and very close to matching Nvidia I would have changed.
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I wish they could make a chiplet based npu.
If they can sell a cpu with fewer core chiplets and more npu chiplets then I would love to buy it if it’s really performative.
If we could get somewhere between 70-100 AI TOPS then that’s a phenomenal step.
Why not just buy a gpu? Well you can have a lot cheaper but slower ddr5 memory compared to a gpu with soldered and expensive vram.
The Apple m1 ultra showed that it’s possible to get decent tokens per second response times with slower memory.
I would love to buy a professional workstation cpu and motherboard if it meant we could get an APU that’s really good for AI inferencing.
AFAIK, AMD's chiplet design is patented so Intel cannot just apply the same idea.
@@SirWolf2018 that’s not true though. They call them different things but serve similar purposes.
They are called tiles with Intel.
I'm not bulky, I'm "richly configured" 🧐
Finally the snake oil salesmen himself 😂
AI, AI, AI
Yes, AI
Yes, most people gaming and watching TH-cam videos (reading this? YOU) don't get it.
That doesn't change the fact that a few million people already do get it and use it and work with it and within the next 5 years you're going to be using AI assisted software whether you use certain features or not. In fact many of you already do, Win11.
Yes, it's not surprising that a TH-cam channel has to figure out how to benchmark AI because they don't even use the AI features in the software THEY use, which most use Adobe for editing video. You don't NEED AI for typical video editing, but for those that are going to be working in professional studios assisting in making scenes for movies, THEY are going to understand AI and what it does for THEM.
Bash away people, in a decade you're going to be using AI in some fashion. But you already interact with a world that's using AI to do different things you need, the simple one being you make a phone call to a company.
"Intel's performance Marketing lab" what is that
Thanks Intel
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