It's funny. I played horn in high school, about 40 years ago and stopped. About 8 years ago I took up the flute. Lately I've been having articulation problems on the flute. No matter what I tried I wasn't able to get a clean attack.. About 6 weeks ago I took up horn playing again. The flute/tonguing problems went away as soon as I took up the horn again. It's good to be back.
Wonderful advice! The horn is such an intriguing instrument. It is amazing how there aren't really any "secrets" to mastering the horn but having the basics strongly founded in your playing. Air, Embochure and visualizing the music.
"No more tension than necessary." This guy is a natural teacher. I've seen him on other videos. He's a musical thinker. I like that. I bet he enjoys playing Shostakovich.
With my hand position, for years I've been trying different positions. My issue was that I never was able to play loud like ff. Then, my teacher helped me out and she showed me one almost the same to the one you showed and my sound changed drastically. I can play loud and proud now (-:
on the topic of horn angle i always used the idea of placing the horn in one spot where it puts the least amount of pressure on your chops and i find that that gives a more powerful sound in every register because your chops vibrate more freely and you dont get the red ring on your chops after you play for extended lengths of time
Bravo -- Thank you for putting this out there for everyone! As a serious amateur, most all of these I've picked up slowly, painfully, over the course of many years and several great teachers. It's so terrific to see them all in one place! The new-to-me one was the middle range "tooth angle". Am giving that a try. Again, thanks to IHS and Mr. VerMeulen!
Thank you so much for this! I just started playing the horn. I've been playing the trumpet for 8years but struggled with my sound in the horn but this helped!
My 10 year old son is just learning to play French Horn. I've been trying to learn more about the Horn so I can offer playing advice and help him maintain it properly (I'm a tenor saxophone player). These tips are very helpful. Thank you.
I have to watch this video and show me exercising one of these skills for my band class but I think at least this was really helpful. High notes have always been tough for me, while low notes are generally easier and I think it's because I'm not angling or placing my mouth piece in the right spot on my lips. I've been playing for 5 years and have always had this problem so thanks.
I've been playing flute for a while and I'm gonna try switching to horn for concert season. never held one, never played one, hopefully I get the hang of it.
I had the chance to meet P. Farkas many years ago in H.S (Texas) and asked him a pile of questions, one in particular I asked was, "Why do you not cover Horn off the leg in your book?" he said, "When I wrote the book I just didn't think of it!" It's a great response From W.V Farkas told me the exact same thing. "Use a hand position that covers every use."
I would counter that many people can play down to about 10-20% breath capacity seamlessly. _33%_ seems arbitrary and as an example our principal horn can play a passage that leaves him breathless yet sounds wonderful right to the end. us: my god! how do you do that?!! principal: I'm glad that phrase wasn't 5 seconds longer, I would've choked!
Any tips on rapid single tonguing? I'm doing the Weber in less than a week and am single tonguing everything but the section w 32nds. I'm still struggling :(
How long does it take to develope a good embouchure on French Horn? I’m going into my senior year of high school and play bass but want to switch to French horn and play in a professional orchestra after college since I’m deeply passionate about the horn. Do you think this goal this late is practical or would that be too late to start developing these face muscles? I also played trumpet in middle school for 3 years but I don’t know how much that would help. Please help, thanks!!
I know a professional horn player who didn’t start playing till college and I went to school with another horn player who started late in high school. It’s definitely not too late to switch if you haven’t already, especially since you have experience playing a brass instrument already.
If you're trying to play a high note, don't tighten so much that it messes up the note. You could actually try and relax a bit to get the note, otherwise you're wasting effort and the note will have an edge.
I started at 11, sixth grade band. Keep it up through middle school and you'll be much better off in highschool, trust me. It's a great instrument, but it's difficult, so best of luck!!
Wht not breath in through the nose? Sucking a blast of air through the mouth corners is neither natural OR efficient. And , yes, one can sound just as good full of air as low of air. The embouchure only knows air pressure. Effort is not necessarily "tension ". The resonance is in the instrument, not the oral space.
Here's my questions about the horn and hand position that I really haven't gotten a true answer as to why, other than tuning ( I played the horn in a US Army Military Band ) #6. Hand position ! ? Why is it necessary to place the hand IN the bell of the horn? Shouldn't the Horn be responsible for the sound, like most other brass instruments, and as, in some ways, the person in this video suggests, in # 3 ! Placing the hand IN the bell - wouldn't it effect or muffle the beautiful sound the horn gives ? Also, why can't tuning be performed with another object, IF even necessary to do so ! ? Is it just that the hand and the shape of the horn allows the hand to be most effective?
Hi Michael - you pose very good questions. Yes, one should be able to produce a good sound even without the hand in the bell. The primary use of the hand is for intonation and holding the horn. In fact, the reason why I list it as a potential problem is that many players do cover up a perfectly good sound with a hand position that distorts the open sound. With correct placement the sound remains open and allows for subtle movements that will help manipulate intonation. I believe that the hand affords the easiest means of adjusting to the minute variables needed to play in tune and another object would be just one more step of involvement that is again, unnecessary and less efficient. We are asked to do a variety of extended techniques in addition to simply playing. These involve stopped horn, echo horn, on the leg, off the leg, bells up and more. The ergonomics and shape of the horn perfectly allow the hand to easily be inserted in the bell, thus making it the most effective and efficient solution. Because of this I believe that the hand is necessary in the bell as the most practical and successful means of accomplishing the gamut of our requirements. Thanks agin for your question.
Will, thank you for your admittance, and reasons. I played the trumpet for many years. I then moved to the horn because I simply fell in love with the sound it shares. At that time playing it, I listened to the horn I played, both with my hand In, and out. While hand placement for what a composer wants to hear, I hear that the overall sound the horn gives, is lessened by the hand IN. Let that non playing hand relax. Or play the horn with your hand before the valves, or not at all, and away from the bell, and you should hear the sound I hear, which is pure. Forgive me. I just hear sound very differently.
"respect the tube" is my new battle cry
agreed
Same here!
real
With this i went from 6th chair to 1st chair wow thank you
1st chairs hate him! Learn how to replace them with this simple trick!
Lucas Strom that's the best comment I've ever seen oml
Good job!
dayum
Theres chairs in french horn playing?
Can't wait for the masterclasses in a couple weeks! See you then!
Thanks for the quick lesson.
I knew I'd find you here
It's funny. I played horn in high school, about 40 years ago and stopped. About 8 years ago I took up the flute. Lately I've been having articulation problems on the flute. No matter what I tried I wasn't able to get a clean attack.. About 6 weeks ago I took up horn playing again. The flute/tonguing problems went away as soon as I took up the horn again. It's good to be back.
i ned help playing the e, D, and Bflat,and A, notes any tips
@@kaydenmiller3691 have you tried just free buzzing?
That bell on the left tho
No matter how good the theory is, it is nothing without practice and effort.
Wonderful advice! The horn is such an intriguing instrument.
It is amazing how there aren't really any "secrets" to mastering the horn but having the basics strongly founded in your playing.
Air, Embochure and visualizing the music.
"No more tension than necessary." This guy is a natural teacher. I've seen him on other videos. He's a musical thinker. I like that. I bet he enjoys playing Shostakovich.
With my hand position, for years I've been trying different positions. My issue was that I never was able to play loud like ff. Then, my teacher helped me out and she showed me one almost the same to the one you showed and my sound changed drastically. I can play loud and proud now (-:
Thank you very much! This is a treasure to horn students like me!
on the topic of horn angle i always used the idea of placing the horn in one spot where it puts the least amount of pressure on your chops and i find that that gives a more powerful sound in every register because your chops vibrate more freely and you dont get the red ring on your chops after you play for extended lengths of time
Thank you for this clear and direct focus on often confusing principles!
Thanks Bill. Excellent advice, especially tip #1.
Thanks for sharing! The best in the biz, hands down.
Sound advice Bill-- will certainly try two of them in my middle school horn students!Thanks!!
Bravo -- Thank you for putting this out there for everyone! As a serious amateur, most all of these I've picked up slowly, painfully, over the course of many years and several great teachers. It's so terrific to see them all in one place! The new-to-me one was the middle range "tooth angle". Am giving that a try. Again, thanks to IHS and Mr. VerMeulen!
Thanks for a great horn lesson! All great advice.
Thank you so much for this! I just started playing the horn. I've been playing the trumpet for 8years but struggled with my sound in the horn but this helped!
watching this because going from middle to highschool band is very humbling
Holy crap I went from 3rd chair to 2nd chair thank you SOOOOOO much
Thank you so much I love the horn and the fact that this is free is amazing. This helped my playing so much!
My 10 year old son is just learning to play French Horn. I've been trying to learn more about the Horn so I can offer playing advice and help him maintain it properly (I'm a tenor saxophone player). These tips are very helpful. Thank you.
Nice! He started around the same time I did, is he still commited?
@@TheSpedPotato,
Yes. He plays the Horn in band at his school and takes private lessons. He's also plays lead trumpet in his middle-school Jazz club!
Wonderful tips! Thanks!
I have to watch this video and show me exercising one of these skills for my band class but I think at least this was really helpful. High notes have always been tough for me, while low notes are generally easier and I think it's because I'm not angling or placing my mouth piece in the right spot on my lips. I've been playing for 5 years and have always had this problem so thanks.
Excellent video. Thank you very much.
Thank you for these tips, from a completely amateur horn player.
Nice. I really liked Vince Penzarella on breathing.
Just picking this back up after almost 20 years. I sound so much better already!!!
Excellent. Thank you.
This may be an older video but all this info is still valid. I can't wait to try these out!
Excellent. Thank you for sharing.
Interesting theory of angle of the horn. I know a great teacher has opposite approach. Angle down on low notes, up on high notes.
Great tips
Much appreciated
thank you my horn had a few problems so thank you so much
I believe this is the best playing tips on the youtube. Works for all brass instrument, well not rhe handpostion though.
Thank you so much for this!
Thank you VERY-VERY much))))
Nine-thousand two-hundred and eighty-seven!
Wonderful!
I've been playing flute for a while and I'm gonna try switching to horn for concert season. never held one, never played one, hopefully I get the hang of it.
thankyou Bill my dream is to be part of the crew!!!
I had the chance to meet P. Farkas many years ago in H.S (Texas) and asked him a pile of questions, one in particular I asked was,
"Why do you not cover Horn off the leg in your book?" he said,
"When I wrote the book I just didn't think of it!" It's a great response From W.V Farkas told me the exact same thing. "Use a hand position that covers every use."
IM PLAYING THAT PIECE IN THE BEGINING RIGHT NOW 😂😂😂
Oh my, the high angle low note trick works on trombone too. I’m gonna win the lowest note competition this year.
I wanna try trombone too😂
cuz it's lighter than horn
@@jediknight9371 except your arms burn so you get used to it when
@@Aduysvmncmkouyf That's a good point! I didn't realize it when commenting last year.
Works for every brass player, except hand position 😁
What are you doing about inner lip trauma against the teeth?
I would counter that many people can play down to about 10-20% breath capacity seamlessly. _33%_ seems arbitrary and as an example our principal horn can play a passage that leaves him breathless yet sounds wonderful right to the end.
us: my god! how do you do that?!!
principal: I'm glad that phrase wasn't 5 seconds longer, I would've choked!
Thankyou!!!
Any tips on rapid single tonguing? I'm doing the Weber in less than a week and am single tonguing everything but the section w 32nds. I'm still struggling :(
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thank you!!
Thanks so much
How long does it take to develope a good embouchure on French Horn? I’m going into my senior year of high school and play bass but want to switch to French horn and play in a professional orchestra after college since I’m deeply passionate about the horn. Do you think this goal this late is practical or would that be too late to start developing these face muscles? I also played trumpet in middle school for 3 years but I don’t know how much that would help. Please help, thanks!!
I know a professional horn player who didn’t start playing till college and I went to school with another horn player who started late in high school. It’s definitely not too late to switch if you haven’t already, especially since you have experience playing a brass instrument already.
I had a lot of problems playing the trumpet in the school band with sounding stuffy. What would contribute to that, the angle?
For me I had to improve my use of air and reduce tension. I’m not a trumpet player but my tone on horn was very stuffy
I played the background music for a playing test
Edit: ok not the last two tho what
No matter how good a theory or lesson is, it is meaningless without practice. 😂 😆
Today's music material education environment is poverty amid abundance.
Who is playing the Mozart 4th in the background? :)
I think it's David Peck.
@@sihingfr it's vermeulen himself. he has a recording with houston.
i think it's hermann baumann... idk
I think it's Vladimir Putin.
It’s from my own recording with the Houston Symphony, Eschenbach conducting.
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Over shoot high pitches?
Played all my life.. didn't know #4.
Senzill i clar!
John Goodman, is that you?
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I don't really understand what he means by tip #3. Can anyone explain?
If you're trying to play a high note, don't tighten so much that it messes up the note. You could actually try and relax a bit to get the note, otherwise you're wasting effort and the note will have an edge.
Thank you so much!! I understand it better now lol
What is the song you play in your intro?
Theresa Guettler Mozart Horn Concerto No. 4 (Movement 1)
Im Zango sounds like Brain 2 me.
ah yes, sorry, Concerto No. 2 Movement 1
Hate to disappoint but it's my recording of Mozart 4 with the Houston Symphony.
William VerMeulen of course it is ! & it’s Magnificent!
I just turned in the worst solo ever and now I’ve watching this hoping to get better
Fuck it's 11 almost 12 am I wanna practice...
You sound like Dan on Roseanne😂
1:00 in I know I shouldn't pick French horn
I just realized he's playing without his bell on! 😳😳😳
His bell is on that Is a different bell
horn.
Thanks I'm starting I'm 11
keep it up!!!
I started at 11, sixth grade band. Keep it up through middle school and you'll be much better off in highschool, trust me. It's a great instrument, but it's difficult, so best of luck!!
Same
Don't give up mate
Keep it up! French horn players are not so many, and good players are even less
Wht not breath in through the nose? Sucking a blast of air through the mouth corners is neither natural OR efficient.
And , yes, one can sound just as good full of air as low of air. The embouchure only knows air pressure. Effort is not necessarily "tension ".
The resonance is in the instrument, not the oral space.
I still can't hit the high e
Oof how long have you been playing
Please. Play
Here's my questions about the horn and hand position that I really haven't gotten a true answer as to why, other than tuning ( I played the horn in a US Army Military Band ) #6. Hand position ! ? Why is it necessary to place the hand IN the bell of the horn? Shouldn't the Horn be responsible for the sound, like most other brass instruments, and as, in some ways, the person in this video suggests, in # 3 ! Placing the hand IN the bell - wouldn't it effect or muffle the beautiful sound the horn gives ? Also, why can't tuning be performed with another object, IF even necessary to do so ! ? Is it just that the hand and the shape of the horn allows the hand to be most effective?
Hi Michael - you pose very good questions. Yes, one should be able to produce a good sound even without the hand in the bell. The primary use of the hand is for intonation and holding the horn. In fact, the reason why I list it as a potential problem is that many players do cover up a perfectly good sound with a hand position that distorts the open sound. With correct placement the sound remains open and allows for subtle movements that will help manipulate intonation. I believe that the hand affords the easiest means of adjusting to the minute variables needed to play in tune and another object would be just one more step of involvement that is again, unnecessary and less efficient. We are asked to do a variety of extended techniques in addition to simply playing. These involve stopped horn, echo horn, on the leg, off the leg, bells up and more. The ergonomics and shape of the horn perfectly allow the hand to easily be inserted in the bell, thus making it the most effective and efficient solution. Because of this I believe that the hand is necessary in the bell as the most practical and successful means of accomplishing the gamut of our requirements. Thanks agin for your question.
Will, thank you for your admittance, and reasons. I played the trumpet for many years. I then moved to the horn because I simply fell in love with the sound it shares. At that time playing it, I listened to the horn I played, both with my hand In, and out. While hand placement for what a composer wants to hear, I hear that the overall sound the horn gives, is lessened by the hand IN. Let that non playing hand relax. Or play the horn with your hand before the valves, or not at all, and away from the bell, and you should hear the sound I hear, which is pure. Forgive me. I just hear sound very differently.
I need to fix my embroucher
boi217 * same
@@ForruptedHrek do u go to KLMS
boi217 * no
It's embouchure
This guy looks an awful lot like Matt Rose
Nice I'm the 69th comment
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