Hi Bruce, thats good timepeace with ugly-done bracelet and enormous price. I've compared it with my speedy sapphire - GS is bulky, heavy and 3x price, despite of attempt jumping to Daytona style/alternative segment. Very niche product which I dont like. BTW Tenta cost 11-13k in chrono24, but 15-16 in Asian market, which blow GS as the an other luxury timepieces. Many thanks for review, Anton from Russia with love.
I really do like this GS but why didn’t you mention the obvious comparison with Zenith? Their high beat chronographs are a little cheaper, have all the history, and measure tenths of a second. GS wins on dial, case finishing, and beauty but I do like the Zenith tricolor sub-dials.
Great review Bruce. You mentioned it a few times, and I completely agree, GS has to improve their bracelets and include on the fly micro-adjustments. Their watches are incredible but their bracelets keep me from buying another one.
The movement on the tentagraph is very impressive. I know people will say it’s modular, but the base movement on which the chrono module sits is the 9SA5, which to me rivals “high horology” movements. My sense and hope is that this is iterative for GS. We’ll see integrated chronos down the line and in more wearable case sizes. I think the bracelet issue is largely overblown with GS. They’re not as a bad or cheap as people make them out to be and this is less so the case with the evolution 9 line. I do think tapering would go a long way though.
@@paulburns6110 no problem 😊 I too adore spring drive and prefer it over gs hi beat movement. Smooth seconds hand sweep and superior accuracy in timekeeping just couldn't be beat. 😍
I love GS as a brand and what they bring to the table. Their design language is not a swiss clone and is uniquely Japanese. However, just in my opinion, a couple of things have me scratching my head. 1. Their pricing lately. One of the things I've loved about GS is that while not cheap, for $3 to $6k, one could get a timepiece at mid tier price that had finishing rivaling watched at higher price points. They were the brand thumbing their noises at brands charging thousands more while saying, "Look at what we can do for less." Now more and more their offerings, with the new movements, with the new dials, with the new design language is getting closer and closer to those other brands. I never thought I would see a GS at 13k plus. Why pick this up when I could get icons like an El Primaro, one of the various Speedy offerings, or a Navi for thousands less? I could even pick up the Glashutte SeaQ chrono with the big date. That has a great bracelet and great microadjust clasp. Speaking of which.... 2. Their bracelets and clasp are still lagging behind. It's been years now, with consumer's complaining about their claps and bracelets, and they’re still behind. At this poin, it's becoming comical. How can micrbrands like Monta and Formex make wonderful bracelets and clasps, but a brand like GS can not? I just don’t understand. Again, it's comical how a watch that is $13K can have a bracelet that is "close" and a clasp, still with no microadjust. Seems like hubris to me, and they are resting on their laurels. You designed the Tentagraph, I know you can design a good and functional microadjustment. Come on "Grand" Seiko.
I find that narrative of "GS bracelets lag" very beat up. The new ones have a great bracelet - SLGH005 is heavier/more solid than a Submariner. I have both and I know what I'm talking about. It seems reviewers are paid to say good things about the watch and choose the bracelet its the least offensive thing to say. The problem with this watch is how thick it is. GS was in the right direction after in shrunk the size of their cases with the new movement, but this is a step back. A chronograph should not be 15mm thick - an El Primero, which is also high beat and has a considerable power reserve (60 hours), is only 12,5mm...
I have tried to like this watch due to the complexity of its movement. Unfortunately, I can't. I would take a Zenith Chronomaster any day over this one. 🙂.
grand seiko hibeat dual impulse escapement is the greatest mechanical movement ever made period, it seems similar to george daniels co axial escapement but its completely different and way better and more efficient
My biggest issue with this watch. Is that despite the price tag. They made the face look cheap. The caseback is stunning but it lacks refinement in appearance which it should most certainly have for the price.
how does the face look cheap? lack of contrast between light and dark colors? subdial colors too similar to dial color? Cause apart from maybe the lack of precious metals which no chrono sitting at 14k has precious metals or has the big contrasting colors you see on the daytonas and zeniths, i dont think there's another chrono in the price range apart from omega's offerings of dark side of the moon. Your issue with the watch is not the face looks cheap. Its the fact that you don't think the watch's dial+movement is good enough to carry a 14k price tag, which is a price issue.
Beautiful watch! I absolutely love Titanium! When it comes to the price though, $13,700! OUCH! I just can't bring myself to spend that much money on a Seiko.
It's made by Seiko. The name Seiko is on the dial. It's a Seiko! I'm not saying it's not a nice watch but $13,700! If you're going to buy one buy it pre owned not new. You'll save a lot of money.
@@sinjinadams2862 Well it's not made by Seiko. The name Seiko is not on the dial. Are we talking about the same watch ? It's a GS, or Grand Seiko, which has been a different company since quite a few years... GS keep their value actually.
it wastes the symmetry but it takes advantage of giving you a date complication......hmm back to the classic ol' give and take model of life....🤔 How bout that.
I feel sorry that, for a completely new design from a brand that is supposedly not wedded to Swiss design cues, GS elected to have the utterly useless Tachymeter bezel on this. This isn’t on the face of it a motorsport-inspired design, so who cares about timing the speed of things over a set distance?
Looks like a mall watch. Seriously, Seiko has too many models, incoherent lines of watches. They are technically fantastic, but I would never pay this amount for a watch like this. P.S. bracelet is a joke, watch is way too bulky.
If you are going to go through all of this work to make your first Chronograph as an underdog brand, there is no reason to release the watch at over 15mm thick. Pure laziness as well as having a mediocre bracelet with no on the fly adjustment. 2/10 for this watch for the money.
Please explain why all Americans talk in the future tense rather than the present, even when talking about something that already exists and is in their hands?
Love this Bruce, but if I ever get another chrono after I sold my Speedy, it'll be less than 13mm thick
Very good Presentation, nice watch indeed. Thank you
Hi Bruce, thats good timepeace with ugly-done bracelet and enormous price. I've compared it with my speedy sapphire - GS is bulky, heavy and 3x price, despite of attempt jumping to Daytona style/alternative segment. Very niche product which I dont like. BTW Tenta cost 11-13k in chrono24, but 15-16 in Asian market, which blow GS as the an other luxury timepieces. Many thanks for review, Anton from Russia with love.
beautiful ...
Grand Seiko and Glashutte Original are making the most beautiful dials and movements for the price. IWC and JLC are in the weeds.
I bought mine this week. Lovely watch.
I really do like this GS but why didn’t you mention the obvious comparison with Zenith? Their high beat chronographs are a little cheaper, have all the history, and measure tenths of a second. GS wins on dial, case finishing, and beauty but I do like the Zenith tricolor sub-dials.
Great review Bruce. You mentioned it a few times, and I completely agree, GS has to improve their bracelets and include on the fly micro-adjustments. Their watches are incredible but their bracelets keep me from buying another one.
What an absolute stunner
They did a great job with this one!
Seiko one of my favorite brand of watches
The movement on the tentagraph is very impressive. I know people will say it’s modular, but the base movement on which the chrono module sits is the 9SA5, which to me rivals “high horology” movements. My sense and hope is that this is iterative for GS. We’ll see integrated chronos down the line and in more wearable case sizes. I think the bracelet issue is largely overblown with GS. They’re not as a bad or cheap as people make them out to be and this is less so the case with the evolution 9 line. I do think tapering would go a long way though.
yes they are theyre cheaper. their bracelets are absolute garbage
I own the SGBC001 Grand SeikoGMT spring drive chronograph, which I thought was their 1st chronograph.
This is their first fully mechanical chronograph. Yours is spring drive which is a quartz hybrid. Nothing wrong with that though i love spring drive❤
@@ryangochuico thanks for correction and I didn’t think of that point. I like spring drive too coz I think the hybrid set up is a serious bit of kit.
@@paulburns6110 no problem 😊
I too adore spring drive and prefer it over gs hi beat movement. Smooth seconds hand sweep and superior accuracy in timekeeping just couldn't be beat. 😍
I love GS as a brand and what they bring to the table. Their design language is not a swiss clone and is uniquely Japanese. However, just in my opinion, a couple of things have me scratching my head.
1. Their pricing lately. One of the things I've loved about GS is that while not cheap, for $3 to $6k, one could get a timepiece at mid tier price that had finishing rivaling watched at higher price points. They were the brand thumbing their noises at brands charging thousands more while saying, "Look at what we can do for less." Now more and more their offerings, with the new movements, with the new dials, with the new design language is getting closer and closer to those other brands. I never thought I would see a GS at 13k plus. Why pick this up when I could get icons like an El Primaro, one of the various Speedy offerings, or a Navi for thousands less? I could even pick up the Glashutte SeaQ chrono with the big date. That has a great bracelet and great microadjust clasp. Speaking of which....
2. Their bracelets and clasp are still lagging behind. It's been years now, with consumer's complaining about their claps and bracelets, and they’re still behind. At this poin, it's becoming comical. How can micrbrands like Monta and Formex make wonderful bracelets and clasps, but a brand like GS can not? I just don’t understand. Again, it's comical how a watch that is $13K can have a bracelet that is "close" and a clasp, still with no microadjust. Seems like hubris to me, and they are resting on their laurels. You designed the Tentagraph, I know you can design a good and functional microadjustment.
Come on "Grand" Seiko.
I find that narrative of "GS bracelets lag" very beat up. The new ones have a great bracelet - SLGH005 is heavier/more solid than a Submariner. I have both and I know what I'm talking about. It seems reviewers are paid to say good things about the watch and choose the bracelet its the least offensive thing to say.
The problem with this watch is how thick it is. GS was in the right direction after in shrunk the size of their cases with the new movement, but this is a step back. A chronograph should not be 15mm thick - an El Primero, which is also high beat and has a considerable power reserve (60 hours), is only 12,5mm...
@maximoplf I'm glad their bracelets are getting better. From what I've seen, the clasps are still a concern. Still no microadjust I'm assuming?
I see GS as being leaders in some aspects like dail/movement, level of finish, but as an overall cohesive design they fall short.
just lovely
GS knocking it out of the park again
Except for the size and clasp
It looks very much like the Tag Heuer blue dial sport chronograph 44mm which retails for $6,400 usd.
Uh no not rly
I have tried to like this watch due to the complexity of its movement. Unfortunately, I can't. I would take a Zenith Chronomaster any day over this one. 🙂.
Would look better without date or with only two registers and the date on 18hrs position. My Omega Chronscope has such a look. Sooo well done.
It looks like they are trying to be like a Zenith.
Zenith trying be GS
There will only ever be one el primero.
I like GS and own an SBGE257. $13,700 MSRP is very optimistic for that watch.
Very. Yikes
Were the older GS chronographs not automatic? Spring drive I guess
Tag heuer carrera and Rolex Daytona had a baby.
For that price, Zenith all day!!!
grand seiko hibeat dual impulse escapement is the greatest mechanical movement ever made period, it seems similar to george daniels co axial escapement but its completely different and way better and more efficient
Ten = ten beats per second
T = three days power reserve or titanium
A = automatic winding movement
Graph = chronograph
Correct. Still a bit silly sounding 😄 That said, the watch and especially the 9SA5 based movement is simply incredible.
@@SinnerAndSaint love how the movement looks but prefer the accuracy of the 9RA2 even if its movement is not as shiny
Why is it so big?
Yep, that exactly what she asked me when I unzipped it.
Thats what she said😂
If only it were 40mm, it’ll be perfect. If only …
That too
My biggest issue with this watch. Is that despite the price tag. They made the face look cheap. The caseback is stunning but it lacks refinement in appearance which it should most certainly have for the price.
how does the face look cheap? lack of contrast between light and dark colors? subdial colors too similar to dial color? Cause apart from maybe the lack of precious metals which no chrono sitting at 14k has precious metals or has the big contrasting colors you see on the daytonas and zeniths, i dont think there's another chrono in the price range apart from omega's offerings of dark side of the moon.
Your issue with the watch is not the face looks cheap. Its the fact that you don't think the watch's dial+movement is good enough to carry a 14k price tag, which is a price issue.
How is their first auto Chrono, seems crazy
Beautiful watch Bruce, thanks for the video! The stubby cut off hour hand always bugs me though on the GS sport models.
Agreed.
hour hand be thicccc
its called tentagraph because Ten ticks per second or 36000 bph, T for titanium, A for automatic, Graph for chrono
🎉
$13k 😮
I will NOT buy a Grand Seiko on a bracelet until it adds on the fly micro adjustment
Never in a million years. You can get an Omega super racing for 3K less than this beast.
No micro adjustment? Smoking crack Grand Seiko
I'm very happy to be able to purchase it online in Japan, but I wish they would sell a stainless steel model instead of titanium
Beautiful watch! I absolutely love Titanium! When it comes to the price though, $13,700! OUCH! I just can't bring myself to spend that much money on a Seiko.
It's not a Seiko though...
It's made by Seiko. The name Seiko is on the dial. It's a Seiko! I'm not saying it's not a nice watch but $13,700! If you're going to buy one buy it pre owned not new. You'll save a lot of money.
@@sinjinadams2862 Well it's not made by Seiko. The name Seiko is not on the dial. Are we talking about the same watch ? It's a GS, or Grand Seiko, which has been a different company since quite a few years... GS keep their value actually.
I hate 4 o'clock date wheels, like a lot. 9.5/10
Nice watch..but the dimensions are all off IMO.
Too bad that the date window is wasting the symmetry.
it wastes the symmetry but it takes advantage of giving you a date complication......hmm back to the classic ol' give and take model of life....🤔 How bout that.
I feel sorry that, for a completely new design from a brand that is supposedly not wedded to Swiss design cues, GS elected to have the utterly useless Tachymeter bezel on this. This isn’t on the face of it a motorsport-inspired design, so who cares about timing the speed of things over a set distance?
this is probably the most advanced chronograph today
Way too thick for a watch in this category.
First GS I like. Oh no. Trip to Japan in a year to get it used at half price.
Too thick. Daytona all the way (at retail)
Looks like a mall watch. Seriously, Seiko has too many models, incoherent lines of watches. They are technically fantastic, but I would never pay this amount for a watch like this. P.S. bracelet is a joke, watch is way too bulky.
If you are going to go through all of this work to make your first Chronograph as an underdog brand, there is no reason to release the watch at over 15mm thick. Pure laziness as well as having a mediocre bracelet with no on the fly adjustment. 2/10 for this watch for the money.
15.3 mm is too fat.
Too big
That watch is a mess. It lacks cohesive design and is entirely forgetful.
Please explain why all Americans talk in the future tense rather than the present, even when talking about something that already exists and is in their hands?
Lol......No thanks. Looks like a Fossil watch. BORING
$14k and its 43.2mm.....too much and too big.