This video is in response to two common questions we get here at the shop via emails. Hope this video helps you out. Please Share,Subscribe and give us a thumbs up.
Hi Paul, et al. I have a friend and we both have BX2360s. The first month he had his he was pushing brush over an a bank. Tractor failed to stop he and tractor went over the steep 75 ft bank. Damage to tractor was nominal. But to him broken bones, cuts, and contusions. The problem was just as you point out. Tractor failed to stop when he disengaged the forward peddle. Kubota Dealer and Corporate denied any fault or liability of course. Almost a year later, after several attempts to fix tractor and with help of lawyer, Kubota Settled out of court and my friend had to NOT disclose ANY of the details. Kubota KNOWS there is a problem. However, oddly enough my tractor works as it should. I have been watching for quite some time now and appreciate your advice, hints, and especially your attention to details. Wish I could find someone in my area that took as much pride in their craft.
***** Wow. Thanks Gary. It just goes to show there needs to be more awareness of the breaking issue. Thanks for posting. Let's see if they'll ate on to fix the issue.
I have a Massey Ferguson GC2400 It did the same thing when new. They recalled it and, replaced the whole peddle mechanism with a new redesigned unit. That was a couple years ago and, I have not had any more problems. I would check to see if they have any active recalls or if the have changed the part number for the peddle mechanism.
I know this is an older video, but sad to report this is still an issue. I went to see a new bx2380 today, and it would roll back just like that with the back pedal released. And yes, when I questioned the dealer, he was like "well, you do have the brake on the left side".
Thats really disappointing on Kubotas part. Especially since this unit is primary designed for home owners that might not have the first clue as to how these are supposed to work in the first place. Thanks for the heads up Paul, hopefully Kubota will address the problem before some one ends up dead.
Was going to trade my 2010 bx25 on a d series an asked about this issue after seeing this on other videos an asked my Kubota dealer an they said its the way it's designed cause there were too many complaints about the abrupt stops on the original bx25. He said they talked to there rep an he said there is no fix as its the way it's designed an if used like the manual states it's safe. But I'll never trade up now.
Ps You added another control and I hope it has some type of pressure relief control in that add-on? At least I hope the control / spool control has a built in pressure relief... Because, once the pressure is on the other side of the control, it should have a max psi before it releases back into return flow to the tank via some filteration device (filter the hydraulics)... PSS. I am taking the time to write you because, I care.
I've never had a problem with the John Deere tractor I had. Until my neighbor borrowed it and put hydraulic fluid in the engine and had almost 5 gallons in the engine and then started it. He had to pay for the repairs
Whoever says "you pay more for the green paint" has obviously never been tractor shopping, yes the TLB model on the John Deere is significantly more, but the other models the 1023 and 1025 are very similar in price to Kubota. Kubota BX2670 starts at $13,147 the John Deere 1025R starts at $13,561 so given that the Deere has a much better layout for using the loader, electric PTO and better pedal design I'll spend the measly $400 more to get that much more refined of a product. And besides Austin, almost every manufacturer out there outsources a lot of components John Deere compact tractors are made by Yanmar in Japan yes but even Kubota for a while didn't build their own tractors in the 80's they were made by Kioti just like LS makes New Holland compact tractors, ect. The point I am making is evvery manufacturer outsources components or the whole machine for cost reasons otherwise you would have a subcompact that costs $20,000 for a base model and nobody would buy it.
This is the first time on your page. Very impressed with the set up you have. Th BX looks great, i'm looking to purchase a BX within a year and would love to get some of your ideas as how to attach the chainsaw, ax and light bars.
I've got an essentially identical 2014 model BX2370, which is the same model except for the backhoe. My machine does brake to a screeching halt if I suddenly release either pedal. Unintentional rolling has never been an issue, though it does require the parking brake to hold it on an incline of any degree. All seems normal, as I would expect. Where did you get your chain saw hanger? I like that!
+GunBlue490 Some stop, some font. Kubota has a high problem with the BX25D by letting them leave their dealerships and not being able to stop. It only takes one death and then crap will hit the fan. I custom built the chainsaw holder. It also has an axe holder on it too.
Paul, Greetings from a New Hampshire cousin! I've enjoyed your BX videos and helpful hints and subscribed. I've got a 5 year old BX2370 that's your machine sans backhoe. It fortunately has never had any problems stopping quite positively, either in forward or reverse. It's a wonderful workhorse that's working out with the front end snow blower these days.
I'm considering this machine, it makes sense to me that the heavier machines would break better. Let's say your driving along and your foot slips off the gas, your going to get a jolt, the wheels will lock up on this smaller machine. The roll and mild braking make mechanical sense to me, especially in 4WD.
Interesting- my B7800 stops fwd or rev soon as I release the pedal. I think the pedal on the BX goes into neutral and free wheels as opposed to most hst's that stay in gear . To me a spool valve on the hst needs a retrofit. To me it's just common sense , it should stop. If I had one I'd be calling Kubota for sure. WOW - HA there's safety stickers all over the machine and warning labels but no warning of killing people . Kubota should be ashamed as a corporation for doing such a build.
my B3030 stops , no problem , never use the brakes ..... on my RTV 1100 put in a roll valve because when you let off the gas petal , it would put you right through the windshield
on the kubota r t v 900 they have what they call anti cost vales it my be the bx 25 d also has them and the costing you are seeing is a failure of that valve they have one for each the fwd and rev
My BX2350 stops hard going forward or back. It's 9 years old so it doesn't jar as much now when it stops but it still stops. I am getting a 2380 or 2680 this month. I may test this first.
My dads Kubota does the same thing. its and older larger unit. 23 hp. I personally don't like the heel toe shifter. I went to the ck 3510 hst kioti for the dual padels.
I have a Kubota B2320 tractor not a problem hydrostatic transmission stops as soon as my foot comes off the pedal so must be BX range problems you should get in contact with Kubota ASP
My Kioti CK hst with the throttle lever low. The throttle increases with the forward and reverse peddle. It stops when I take my foot off the peddle. If I bump up the throttle lever, it by passes the brake. It then rolls
You can make that 26 tractors with that problem because mine does that too even if you try to use the brake it is way to high to lift your foot in time if you have to stop quickly!
Bought my bx 24 new in 2007, always did that ( not stopping). Sometimes when going backwards and I take my foot off I'll get a whip lash from it stopping so fast.
Frank Zahora I have a bx24 also that I bought around the same time and I get the same thing that I get Whiplash from it I wish it didn't stop as quickly going backwards I don't know what this guy's complaint is a little bit of Common Sense and keeping aware of your surroundings you can't get any safer than that
After watching this I had to go out and try it on my tractor. I wonder what the difference is between the BX25 and the BX25D. I have the plain BX25, not D. As soon as I let off the pedal (in either range) the tractor stops in just a few feet. In fact, in reverse if I let off the go pedal it stops so abruptly it almost lifts the front wheels off the ground. Edit: there is a comment below that this "abrupt" stop was designed out of the BX25D... as you and I have talked... people just have no imagination. They just can't imagine what might go wrong. WHY would anyone complain about their tractor stopping well??
I have a JD 4400 with HST and it stops as soon as let off the pedal . I never use the brake to stop the tractor only to set the parking brake . That is a big time problem , but as with most things nowadays , the manufacturer does not want to recall and fix the problem because it will cost too much money . They will wait until somebody gets hurt before they are forced to fix it . Good call Paul , stay safe buddy , bob k
Robert Kavich Your right. It's the sign of the times but with the government dishing out major fines for not fixing safety issues Kubota should learn from Dodge, Toyota... Have a great weekend my friend.
That's a strange issue. My brother has a HST and it stops on a dine when the pedal is released. It's not a BX-25D, but you'd think the transmission is the same. Great public service guys, thanks. Brother I love you mods on the tractor.
Paul, as you know, I'm looking at getting one of the BX25D's this spring, or an B2601, (not sure yet) But, Debbie and I went to a dealer ship here about 2 to 3 weeks ago, and I asked them if I could play with them both the BX25D and the B2601 to see how they handle and how are the hydraulics do. They said sure, just don't dig with them, I said oh I'm not, just want to move the attachments around drive around some. So I did, and I found that the B2601 worked like it should, (just drove one of the B2601's because only one they had there) but I tried 2 of the BX25D's, and both of them done pretty close to the same thing that yours had done, about the not stopping thing. I just tried 2 is all. Tried a BX25 with out the backhoe, it stopped like it should. It wasn't setup for the backhoe attachment. So, I thought that we would share this with you. Thanks for the video's our friends, really appreciate your updates and things on tools and equipment, such a big help... Thanks Paul & Kathy....
My b21 stops every time... Seems like your spool is not going to zero / neutral... It is not pressure...it is flow... Flow is still taking place and you releasing your foot should bring it to neutral...
I fixed it. It's bee fixed since justvafter this video. Changed a spring in the linkage and adjusted the tension. The B series is a whole differant beast.
I understand your point but, the "spoo" is what was not "centering"... Perhaps your linkage was not allowing for that "travel" so as to center... If, you were to remove connections from that linkage it might go automatically to neutral (no movement of machine)... I am guessing your spool is controlled by this linkage and since you have two pedals controlling same (it is just like you moving your handle on your bucket lever /control)... One foot pushes spool to one side (forward) and the other pedal pushes spool to the other side (reverse).
Hey Paul great channel! My BX25D had that issue but now it's much better. I put the grease right to it and it really helped. Maybe its just mine that extra grease would help. Anyway here is a clip of how mine works th-cam.com/video/PQJdQ7PSAvQ/w-d-xo.html Is This how it should work or should it be better? Thanks Coyote Rob!
Coyote Rob Thanks Rob. I'm getting plenty of emails on the subject. Some stop, some don't. I think I know where the trouble is. Uploading a new video now. Nice tractor buddy. ;)
Hi Paul I have a 2013 BX25D, 213 hrs. When I lift my foot quickly off the forward or reverse pedal the machine stops abruptly. No difference when in Hi or low range.
The grease zerk - under mate - next to peddle - needs to be greased - " often " For those of you that mite have that stopping problem. { Blessings } This works for me!
Yes it needs to be greased BUT the main issue is the pull back spring under the tractor. It needs to be adjusted and more tension added to it. My other video on the topic shows the process and solved the issue. Happy tractoring.
The Plow Guys The (operators) manual says it should stop within 10 ft. frontwards or backwards. If it is not, adjust the tensioning spring for the HST pedal and should be adjusted every 100 hrs (as part of normal maintenance). Then it tells you to bring it to the dealer for that service. Now the (workshop) manual tells you how to adjust the tensioning spring and the amt to tighten it. After that, If it does not stop within 10 ft. then repeat the process. My question is, have the people either brought it to the dealer or bought the workshop manual and done this service. I brought my 2360 to the dealer and they adjust it to meet the spec during the warranty period. It is now out of warranty and I'll be doing mine soon as per the workshop manual. I believe that's where the problem is. Hope people get er done.
Paul, My 2012 BX 25 stops in both low and high range (US model). In face you have to be careful it will wrench your back when stopping a down hill backup in high range while mowing. Took me a while to adjust to the quick stop when the backhoe and FEL are detached. Also had a 2330 and it stopped although not a briskly. I would never tow with the dipper stick. My backhoe is well used and will float after a period of time so anything attached would freely sing from side to side... dangerous! If I must tow I use a tow bar in the 3 point hitch with a stabilizer attached to stop it rotating. Only time I use the brake is for parking or when someone is assisting me by hooking chains or other material handling. Then always foot on brake hand away from all other controls unless instructed by assistant. If in dough DON'T MOVE ANYTHING! I have an assistant working with me regularly so as you say I wouldn't operate a tractor that didn't stop when its should.
***** Good points Bill. Tractors are great for those with experance to operate then properly but they are getting into the hands of none experance downers now and even renters and I just wanted to spread some awearness to the BX stopping issue because someone is injured or killed IF that already haven't happened.
Paul what year is your bx25D. I bought mine sept 2014 new. my bx will roll about a foot or two before it stops in which I'm ok with, it doesn't creep fwd or bkwrd. I am a mechanic for bobcat in Pennsylvania, my guess is the pump shaft return springs are not heavy heavy enough to bring the machine to neutral quick enough.
+srjones100 Mines a 2013. Early model. I'll soon be addressing the stopping issue. Just no time these days plus I don't use the BX in the winter time. You might be right on the spring. I'll give an update when I get to it. Thanks for watching.
Paul, Interesting video. You are absolutely right, it should not do that period. My 2010 BX2230 stops on a dime the minute you let off the pedal in either direction. You've no doubt saved someone serious injury by making this public.
Sellarmusic Thanks. As I said in the video. I've been through this before with a motorcycle manufacture and at first it was deny, deny, deny. By the time it was completed I got letters from them thanking me for pushing the subject. If it saves one person from injury then it's worth it.
I have a BX25D-1 that I bought in Washington State this past September 2016. Mine doesn't appear to have the same problem as yours. I let my foot off the accelerator either forwards or backwards and it stops almost immediately.
I have the 2015 BX25D and my tractor stops suddenly when I take my foot off the revers peddle but not when I take it off the forward peddle. The revers stop is real sudden and is a bit annoying.
I have a f2400 with hst which will no longer drive. The pto still working but it fails to proceed, fwd or reverse. The dealer quoted full transmission repair $10,000. I don't think he wants the job but will be happy to take my money.Cheers Kelvin
Hi Paul, is there any update on this topic? Will you reveal your thoughts on the subject in a 2016 video? I am sure you have some answers. I am used to this now, but always gets me hesitant when I approach a ditch or change in grade. Also, would like to see a vid on adjusting the brake pedal. Mine is going to the floor before grabbing. Happy New Year and all the best to you and Kathy in 2016.
+jpoluho I've done the research and yes I've got an opinion on it but I have to wait a little bit longer before I express it. That being said I'll soon be looking at mine. I'm use to mine as well but that don't make it right. I'll be doing a video on the topic sometime this winter. Happy New Year to you as well.
This exact thing was happening on my Massey Ferguson GC2600. Its turns out the foot pedal linkage was corroded and sticking under the tractor. I disassembled the linkage and greased it up good. The problem disappeared. Its a very annoying issue to deal with a drifting tractor especially if your doing detailed work with the bucket.
just changed my block heater to find unpleasant surprises . one , the block heater failed after only 3 years because it was leaking antifreeze through the center of the unit to the electrical connection. i will now remove the 12 inch extension wire in summer . two . American distributors of Kubota parts are not allowed to sell to Canadians . 80$-90$ usd original part . 40$USD knockoff . 225$CDN here. three . the piece is not threaded but press fit to install and remove.Very scary because there is precious little info about how to do this yourself . But it can be done . 3/4 inch pipe with a female to female fitting screws on nicely , then torque it off gently . didn't even bother to take the drain plug off because it is very hard to remove and even harder to put back . love your videos . very helpful Eric Roussil Chertsey Qc
Take the old block heater to an automotive part center. They might be able to match it up for you at a fraction of the cost. I’ve installed many frost plugs. Yes a little tricky but not bad to do. Just put liquid Teflon on them and hammer them in evenly and your good 👍
Hi Paul and Kathy ... I tried the back and forward stop test to see what my BX would do. My BX did the opposite of yours. Going backwards it stopped immediately but forward it kept going! My observation was the back and forward pedal was slow to neutralize, so I greased the pivot under the mat but it was still slow to return to center. I'm going to look and see if a little WD40 will help the other moving parts and see if that gets the pedals to center quickly ... Could the issue be that simple? I'll keep you posted!
+Bill Amore Yes the pedal don't naturalize fast enough. Goes to show Kubota don't have any consistency when it comes to breaking with these machines. Purely dangerous in my opinion.
did you grease the HST pedal? nobody greases those. if the pedal and linkages are binding that can be part of it. also, If you touch the oppositte direction in an emergency it will stop very fast. also the machine is equipped with a brake...the hst pedal IS NOT a replacement for a brake. but I saw your other video and yes, a linkage problem.
Yes I show that grease zerk in my full service BX video. The foot brake on these things are normally only used as a parking brake. They are designed to high to use as a foot brake. I've resolved the stopping issue.
Paul, I have a BX24 with the same issue of rolling after you take your foot off the pedal. It stops quick in reverse but continues in forward for a long way.Takes a bit of getting used, but definitely not how it should work, I did see a slight improvement when I greased the pedal fitting under the floor mat, but still not right. Maybe a heavier pedal spring would return the pedal faster, not sure. I have a hydro JD riding mower that stops on a dime when pedal is released. Something wrong in the engineering with Kubota design.
That tractor is suppose to stop when you take your feet off the pedals. I have a John Deere tractor with the same type of transmission on it, and the tractor stops when the foot comes off the pedal.
I got my BX2370 which is the same tractor as the BX25D and mine did the same thing since day one and I use it mainly to mow with the 60"MMM and I do that dance with the brake and forward. or sometimes I toe the pedal up
my BX25d stops instantly in reverse but keeps rolling when in forward, it sometimes keeps moving slowly as if i still have my foot on the pedal just slightly, i have less than 10 hours on it and its annoying.
I understand from a practical point of view it wouldn't be great, but it would be the brake pedal that should be used for safely stopping the machine and not the transmission? Is that what they would argue? is that what the owner's manual says?
+ruston48 Yes it could an argument BUT a good lawyer would have to ask "why do all other Kubota HST products stop when you let go of the threddle pedal and not the BX25D"?
Greeting, The BX-25D I purchased new in the U.S. in early December, 2014 stops properly. In full speed reverse, it almost stops too abruptly and really jolts me. In forward it doesn't stop as abruptly, but does stop quickly. Good luck...
That happened to me in reverse and the BX25 didn’t stop. I hit the garage and caused damage because it didn’t slow down or stop only after the switched into forward to stop more damage. I was very upset.
We have both a BX22 and a BX25D1 both operate in this manner. Our RTV1100 will skid the tires if you take your foot off of the hydro pedal at nearly any speed forward or reverse so Kubota can produce a HST with positive transmission braking, evidently just not on the smaller tractors!
Thanks for the video. That behaviour is not normal on a Kubota HST. My 1985 B7100 HST stops on a dime if I lift off the forward or reverse pedals. You talk about liability, what happens when someone gets crushed under a rolling Kubota?? If I was Kubota I would issue an immediate recall and get this fixed.
+Brent Kosakowski The BX 25D is hydrostatic and it's the only Kubota that I've ever seen that acts like this. Some of them do, some of the same model don't which means if they were designed to not stop they all should be the same and they're not so there is a problem.
My BX25D does not have this problem. For you Kubota haters, my 12 year old JD riding mower never gave me a problem, so the first tractor I looked at was the John Deere, very nice indeed. On the advice of a friend I decided to look at the Kubota and I was very impressed, Kubota seems a bit more heavy duty then the JD and was a bit more user friendly. Still a JD fan, but in this case I had to go with Kubota and if you put the two side by side you would make the same choice.
My bx24 stops immediately when I take my foot off the pedal, sometimes it jars my back. Ever since kubota has put on the pedal dampers i have seen this issue. They got alot of complaints that the bx22-bx24 would stop to harshly. So they put these dampers to slowdown the pedal movement. I believe this is why they do this. When you take your foot off it takes a little bit for the pedal to return to center because the damper is there. I believe that if you take the damper off it will stop immediately just like the previous models.
Thanks for the info Paul Just bought the BX25 thought it was normal to coast back when stopping although was a little scary. Was using the two foot waltz to stop the thing.
Thank you so much for the video! We're seriously considering buying this machine. I have a couple of questions for you: 1) Did you test your tractor at the dealership? If yes, didn't this problem arise then? 2) Do you know the current status of this problem--has Kubota fixed it yet since your video is from August 2015?? I just called the dealership, and she said Kubota has them do extensive testing on each machine before it leaves their store--I'm assuming it's no different in Canada, right--or are they pulling my leg??? LASTLY, WOULD YOU STILL RECOMMEND BUYING THIS KUBOTA VERSUS ANY OTHER TRACTOR OPTION IF YOU HAD TO AGAIN? I really appreciate your video; thanks very much!!
Paul, I have a 2014 BX25D. I have found that in reverse creeping backward and I lift foot, it will roll a few feet. If going backward at quicker speed and lift foot, it is an abrupt stop. forward will roll some when lift foot either fast or slow, I would say less than 10 feet.
The father-in-law has an older BX25 that doesn't stop either and it's pretty clear that it's not designed to. I have driven plenty of hydrostatic vehicles that stopped immediately as you describe but then I've also driven several that do not. Really it comes down to whether or not the control valve allows fluid to bypass when near the neutral position. The bypass is under tension like a weak pressure relief valve and so the vehicle will ultimately stop and hold position but the bypass makes the vehicle MUCH (I repeat MUCH) more comfortable to drive in repetitive forward/reverse movements than those that auto-stop. The auto-stop feature creates a much more jerky operation and when you're stacking dirt you will appreciate the bypass. In this case I must agree with Kubota, it's not broken. You can do as you do (use opposite pedal to counter your movements) or use the brake (yes I think it's higher than it needs to be).
Very informative. Safety with equipment is not the machines priority, it's the operator. I'm not a equipment owner, but have operated many, and always yelled when things were not right, sometimes it helped sometimes I got a new job..lol..Thanks Paul that was a good post for the equipment owners that have them and have same issues. !!
my bx 25d starts runs find at idle but when I move forward or backards it stalls out I change fuel filters but still stalls out when moving forward or backards
I'll have to see what mine does ... interesting to know the brake is for the emergency brake only. With that said sometimes I'll switch from forward to reverse or vise versa and it stops on a dime ... not sure if that a good thing or not. But I'll the do the stop test as you did and see what happens. On an other safety issue ... the seat. I actually received a letter from Kubota [and inset for the owners manual[ on the bolt that holds the seat in place. It was last winter, and last winter here was a bear ... my seat popped completely of the stand .. my little tent shed from Horror Fright [aka Harbor Fright] was warm and cozy, so the repair [double nutting the existing bolt] worked fine and no issues since. Thanks again Paul and Kathy for the video and information.
I have to agree with you Paul. There is no way I would let my employees use that machine. Our John Deere 4066R has a dial on it that you can adjust the roll out distance when you let off the pedal
Is the HST pedal a 4 way 3 position control valve? Is it possible That the spool springs are not strong enough, or is the spool still too flooded with oil to work properly?
I had the same problem, took it to my local dealer and they replaced the foot assembly. service manager called district and said they all have some creep. .. replacing did help but it's still there. Dealer showed me a kubota mule and it rolled as well.
I have 280hrs on mine and no problems so far. it slows down and stops at a nice rate. I wouldn't want it to instantly dead stop and give me whiplash. it is a lot safer than the old John Deere I had.
in reverse mine does it, especially going down hills or slopes. i wasnt aware it was suppose to do that and thought it was hard on the HST. now going it does the same, but not as bad as going in reverse. i usally use the break anyway. i do have a 2670 not a 25d
My bx24 has always done the slow return to neutral thing, but I have just learned to operate it with my right foot forward and my left foot always says on the rear pedal for positive control
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Hi Paul, et al. I have a friend and we both have BX2360s. The first month he had his he was pushing brush over an a bank. Tractor failed to stop he and tractor went over the steep 75 ft bank. Damage to tractor was nominal. But to him broken bones, cuts, and contusions.
The problem was just as you point out. Tractor failed to stop when he disengaged the forward peddle. Kubota Dealer and Corporate denied any fault or liability of course.
Almost a year later, after several attempts to fix tractor and with help of lawyer, Kubota Settled out of court and my friend had to NOT disclose ANY of the details.
Kubota KNOWS there is a problem.
However, oddly enough my tractor works as it should.
I have been watching for quite some time now and appreciate your advice, hints, and especially your attention to details. Wish I could find someone in my area that took as much pride in their craft.
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Wow. Thanks Gary. It just goes to show there needs to be more awareness of the breaking issue. Thanks for posting. Let's see if they'll ate on to fix the issue.
I have a Massey Ferguson GC2400 It did the same thing when new. They recalled it and, replaced the whole peddle mechanism with a new redesigned unit. That was a couple years ago and, I have not had any more problems. I would check to see if they have any active recalls or if the have changed the part number for the peddle mechanism.
I know this is an older video, but sad to report this is still an issue. I went to see a new bx2380 today, and it would roll back just like that with the back pedal released. And yes, when I questioned the dealer, he was like "well, you do have the brake on the left side".
Paul, My BX25dlb stops so fast in reverse it sometimes jars my back. Forward is not so quick to stop.
Thats really disappointing on Kubotas part.
Especially since this unit is primary designed for home owners that might not have the first clue as to how these are supposed to work in the first place.
Thanks for the heads up Paul, hopefully Kubota will address the problem before some one ends up dead.
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Great points Jim. Same with rental shops. Wonder how many of these BX's are out there that don't stop? Be safe my friend.
Was going to trade my 2010 bx25 on a d series an asked about this issue after seeing this on other videos an asked my Kubota dealer an they said its the way it's designed cause there were too many complaints about the abrupt stops on the original bx25. He said they talked to there rep an he said there is no fix as its the way it's designed an if used like the manual states it's safe. But I'll never trade up now.
theres an adjustment you can make on the return spring right in front of the fan for the trans that fixes this.
Yes. I show that adjustment in the follow up video.
Hi Paul and Kathy. Love your video’s. I watched a video on a chainsaw holder and now I can’t find it. Could you please send me a link. Thanks Andrew
www.specialtyrepairscustommods.com/bx-saw-saddle
Ps You added another control and I hope it has some type of pressure relief control in that add-on? At least I hope the control / spool control has a built in pressure relief... Because, once the pressure is on the other side of the control, it should have a max psi before it releases back into return flow to the tank via some filteration device (filter the hydraulics)... PSS. I am taking the time to write you because, I care.
think I'm just going to stick with John Deere
+Jeffrey Murdock I'll take a few extra vacations on the $$$ I didn't spend for green paint hahaha!Sucker.
I've never had a problem with the John Deere tractor I had. Until my neighbor borrowed it and put hydraulic fluid in the engine and had almost 5 gallons in the engine and then started it. He had to pay for the repairs
+Dean Heath I just priced the two out, and the Deere is only $500 more than the Kubota. You must take really cheap vacations.
I think his idea of a vacation is the local bar. Lol
Whoever says "you pay more for the green paint" has obviously never been tractor shopping, yes the TLB model on the John Deere is significantly more, but the other models the 1023 and 1025 are very similar in price to Kubota. Kubota BX2670 starts at $13,147 the John Deere 1025R starts at $13,561 so given that the Deere has a much better layout for using the loader, electric PTO and better pedal design I'll spend the measly $400 more to get that much more refined of a product. And besides Austin, almost every manufacturer out there outsources a lot of components John Deere compact tractors are made by Yanmar in Japan yes but even Kubota for a while didn't build their own tractors in the 80's they were made by Kioti just like LS makes New Holland compact tractors, ect. The point I am making is evvery manufacturer outsources components or the whole machine for cost reasons otherwise you would have a subcompact that costs $20,000 for a base model and nobody would buy it.
This is the first time on your page. Very impressed with the set up you have. Th BX looks great, i'm looking to purchase a BX within a year and would love to get some of your ideas as how to attach the chainsaw, ax and light bars.
I've got an essentially identical 2014 model BX2370, which is the same model except for the backhoe. My machine does brake to a screeching halt if I suddenly release either pedal. Unintentional rolling has never been an issue, though it does require the parking brake to hold it on an incline of any degree. All seems normal, as I would expect. Where did you get your chain saw hanger? I like that!
+GunBlue490
Some stop, some font. Kubota has a high problem with the BX25D by letting them leave their dealerships and not being able to stop. It only takes one death and then crap will hit the fan. I custom built the chainsaw holder. It also has an axe holder on it too.
Paul, Greetings from a New Hampshire cousin! I've enjoyed your BX videos and helpful hints and subscribed. I've got a 5 year old BX2370 that's your machine sans backhoe. It fortunately has never had any problems stopping quite positively, either in forward or reverse. It's a wonderful workhorse that's working out with the front end snow blower these days.
I'm considering this machine, it makes sense to me that the heavier machines would break better. Let's say your driving along and your foot slips off the gas, your going to get a jolt, the wheels will lock up on this smaller machine. The roll and mild braking make mechanical sense to me, especially in 4WD.
Interesting- my B7800 stops fwd or rev soon as I release the pedal. I think the pedal on the BX goes into neutral and free wheels as opposed to most hst's that stay in gear . To me a spool valve on the hst needs a retrofit. To me it's just common sense , it should stop. If I had one I'd be calling Kubota for sure. WOW - HA there's safety stickers all over the machine and warning labels but no warning of killing people . Kubota should be ashamed as a corporation for doing such a build.
My Massey Ferguson GC2600 stop as soon as you let the pedal go.Point for Massey!!!!
This is a feature of Kabota for working on turf. If the tractor stops suddenly the tires will dig in to your lawn.
my B3030 stops , no problem , never use the brakes ..... on my RTV 1100 put in a roll valve because when you let off the gas petal , it would put you right through the windshield
on the kubota r t v 900 they have what they call anti cost vales it my be the bx 25 d also has them and the costing you are seeing is a failure of that valve they have one for each the fwd and rev
My BX2350 stops hard going forward or back. It's 9 years old so it doesn't jar as much now when it stops but it still stops. I am getting a 2380 or 2680 this month. I may test this first.
thank you for the info on the tractors and especially on the towing with the booms, i learn something new everytime i watch.
Keep it up and stay safe.
My dads Kubota does the same thing. its and older larger unit. 23 hp. I personally don't like the heel toe shifter. I went to the ck 3510 hst kioti for the dual padels.
I have a Kubota B2320 tractor not a problem hydrostatic transmission stops as soon as my foot comes off the pedal so must be BX range problems you should get in contact with Kubota ASP
My Kioti CK hst with the throttle lever low. The throttle increases with the forward and reverse peddle. It stops when I take my foot off the peddle. If I bump up the throttle lever, it by passes the brake. It then rolls
John deere's are Yanmars painted green. I'll take the Kubota any day.
You can make that 26 tractors with that problem because mine does that too even if you try to use the brake it is way to high to lift your foot in time if you have to stop quickly!
Hey paul i have a kubota 7500 amd it stops right when i take my foot of it a and i agree its not safe at all
my uncles bx25 don't roll and he put the ball on the front bucket
Bought my bx 24 new in 2007, always did that ( not stopping). Sometimes when going backwards and I take my foot off I'll get a whip lash from it stopping so fast.
Frank Zahora I have a bx24 also that I bought around the same time and I get the same thing that I get Whiplash from it I wish it didn't stop as quickly going backwards I don't know what this guy's complaint is a little bit of Common Sense and keeping aware of your surroundings you can't get any safer than that
I have a BX25D and it has always stopped when i take my foot off of the pedal
Paul I have a john Deere 4310 and it stops I never use the brake
After watching this I had to go out and try it on my tractor. I wonder what the difference is between the BX25 and the BX25D. I have the plain BX25, not D. As soon as I let off the pedal (in either range) the tractor stops in just a few feet. In fact, in reverse if I let off the go pedal it stops so abruptly it almost lifts the front wheels off the ground.
Edit: there is a comment below that this "abrupt" stop was designed out of the BX25D... as you and I have talked... people just have no imagination. They just can't imagine what might go wrong. WHY would anyone complain about their tractor stopping well??
ramosel
I read somewhere that the 25D has a boxed frame.
I have a JD 4400 with HST and it stops as soon as let off the pedal . I never use the brake to stop the tractor only to set the parking brake . That is a big time problem , but as with most things nowadays , the manufacturer does not want to recall and fix the problem because it will cost too much money . They will wait until somebody gets hurt before they are forced to fix it . Good call Paul , stay safe buddy , bob k
Robert Kavich
Your right. It's the sign of the times but with the government dishing out major fines for not fixing safety issues Kubota should learn from Dodge, Toyota... Have a great weekend my friend.
I know you have fixed this, from watching another video. You are the best, Sir.
Thank you. I'm happy with it now.
Paul, please check out my thread at tractorbynet. It's titled, "New BX25D-1, in the Garage!! They fixed the rolling issue, too!!!!!!"
+nikerret
Time will tell. Give it some hours to see IF it will work. In the past it haven't unfortunately.
That's a strange issue. My brother has a HST and it stops on a dine when the pedal is released. It's not a BX-25D, but you'd think the transmission is the same. Great public service guys, thanks. Brother I love you mods on the tractor.
I thought I was at the movies house for a minute
Paul, as you know, I'm looking at getting one of the BX25D's this spring, or an B2601, (not sure yet) But, Debbie and I went to a dealer ship here about 2 to 3 weeks ago, and I asked them if I could play with them both the BX25D and the B2601 to see how they handle and how are the hydraulics do. They said sure, just don't dig with them, I said oh I'm not, just want to move the attachments around drive around some. So I did, and I found that the B2601 worked like it should, (just drove one of the B2601's because only one they had there) but I tried 2 of the BX25D's, and both of them done pretty close to the same thing that yours had done, about the not stopping thing. I just tried 2 is all. Tried a BX25 with out the backhoe, it stopped like it should. It wasn't setup for the backhoe attachment. So, I thought that we would share this with you. Thanks for the video's our friends, really appreciate your updates and things on tools and equipment, such a big help... Thanks Paul & Kathy....
Hello Paul and Kathy the vid was very informative and thanks for showing us and keep the vids coming Thanks Robert
robert anderson
Thanks Robert.
That's what the chainsaw holster is for.
My b21 stops every time... Seems like your spool is not going to zero / neutral... It is not pressure...it is flow... Flow is still taking place and you releasing your foot should bring it to neutral...
I fixed it. It's bee fixed since justvafter this video. Changed a spring in the linkage and adjusted the tension. The B series is a whole differant beast.
I understand your point but, the "spoo" is what was not "centering"... Perhaps your linkage was not allowing for that "travel" so as to center... If, you were to remove connections from that linkage it might go automatically to neutral (no movement of machine)... I am guessing your spool is controlled by this linkage and since you have two pedals controlling same (it is just like you moving your handle on your bucket lever /control)... One foot pushes spool to one side (forward) and the other pedal pushes spool to the other side (reverse).
Hey Paul great channel! My BX25D had that issue but now it's much better. I put the grease right to it and it really helped. Maybe its just mine that extra grease would help.
Anyway here is a clip of how mine works th-cam.com/video/PQJdQ7PSAvQ/w-d-xo.html Is This how it should work or should it be better? Thanks Coyote Rob!
Coyote Rob
Thanks Rob. I'm getting plenty of emails on the subject. Some stop, some don't. I think I know where the trouble is. Uploading a new video now. Nice tractor buddy. ;)
Paul Short Thank you Paul for all your great work. I'll be looking for that video!
Paul I have a 2015 BX25D and after watching and enjoying your video I checked mine and it stops on a dime.
Great to here but eventually yours won't and you'll need to make the adjustment.
Hi Paul
I have a 2013 BX25D, 213 hrs. When I lift my foot quickly off the forward or reverse pedal the machine stops abruptly.
No difference when in Hi or low range.
John Tomko
Great to hear you got one that actually works right. A lot don't unfortunately. I wanted to make everyone aware of that.
The grease zerk - under mate - next to peddle - needs to be greased - " often " For those of you that mite have that stopping problem. { Blessings } This works for me!
Yes it needs to be greased BUT the main issue is the pull back spring under the tractor. It needs to be adjusted and more tension added to it. My other video on the topic shows the process and solved the issue. Happy tractoring.
Hi, my name is a Rick, my Kubota BX 2350 stops good forward but stops on a dime in reverse. This hurts my back, any comments??
There is an adjustment for that. I showed the adjustment in another video.
What does the dealer say? They should know.
The Plow Guys The (operators) manual says it should stop within 10 ft. frontwards or backwards. If it is not, adjust the tensioning spring for the HST pedal and should be adjusted every 100 hrs (as part of normal maintenance). Then it tells you to bring it to the dealer for that service.
Now the (workshop) manual tells you how to adjust the tensioning spring and the amt to tighten it. After that, If it does not stop within 10 ft. then repeat the process.
My question is, have the people either brought it to the dealer or bought the workshop manual and done this service. I brought my 2360 to the dealer and they adjust it to meet the spec during the warranty period. It is now out of warranty and I'll be doing mine soon as per the workshop manual. I believe that's where the problem is. Hope people get er done.
Paul, My 2012 BX 25 stops in both low and high range (US model). In face you have to be careful it will wrench your back when stopping a down hill backup in high range while mowing. Took me a while to adjust to the quick stop when the backhoe and FEL are detached. Also had a 2330 and it stopped although not a briskly. I would never tow with the dipper stick. My backhoe is well used and will float after a period of time so anything attached would freely sing from side to side... dangerous! If I must tow I use a tow bar in the 3 point hitch with a stabilizer attached to stop it rotating. Only time I use the brake is for parking or when someone is assisting me by hooking chains or other material handling. Then always foot on brake hand away from all other controls unless instructed by assistant. If in dough DON'T MOVE ANYTHING! I have an assistant working with me regularly so as you say I wouldn't operate a tractor that didn't stop when its should.
*****
Good points Bill. Tractors are great for those with experance to operate then properly but they are getting into the hands of none experance downers now and even renters and I just wanted to spread some awearness to the BX stopping issue because someone is injured or killed IF that already haven't happened.
Paul what year is your bx25D. I bought mine sept 2014 new. my bx will roll about a foot or two before it stops in which I'm ok with, it doesn't creep fwd or bkwrd. I am a mechanic for bobcat in Pennsylvania, my guess is the pump shaft return springs are not heavy heavy enough to bring the machine to neutral quick enough.
+srjones100
Mines a 2013. Early model. I'll soon be addressing the stopping issue. Just no time these days plus I don't use the BX in the winter time. You might be right on the spring. I'll give an update when I get to it. Thanks for watching.
Paul,
Interesting video. You are absolutely right, it should not do that period. My 2010 BX2230 stops on a dime the minute you let off the pedal in either direction. You've no doubt saved someone serious injury by making this public.
Sellarmusic
Thanks. As I said in the video. I've been through this before with a motorcycle manufacture and at first it was deny, deny, deny. By the time it was completed I got letters from them thanking me for pushing the subject. If it saves one person from injury then it's worth it.
I have a BX25D-1 that I bought in Washington State this past September 2016. Mine doesn't appear to have the same problem as yours. I let my foot off the accelerator either forwards or backwards and it stops almost immediately.
That will change at around the 50 hour mark. Then you'll need to watch my follow up video on how to fix it.
I have the 2015 BX25D and my tractor stops suddenly when I take my foot off the revers peddle but not when I take it off the forward peddle. The revers stop is real sudden and is a bit annoying.
+Tired of It All
If it's under warranty you might want to get it looked at. Don't sound right the way it is.
I have a f2400 with hst which will no longer drive. The pto still working but it fails to proceed, fwd or reverse. The dealer quoted full transmission repair $10,000. I don't think he wants the job but will be happy to take my money.Cheers Kelvin
+Kelvin Wilson
Sounds like a big job with expensive parts to me. Good luck.
Hi Paul, is there any update on this topic? Will you reveal your thoughts on the subject in a 2016 video? I am sure you have some answers. I am used to this now, but always gets me hesitant when I approach a ditch or change in grade. Also, would like to see a vid on adjusting the brake pedal. Mine is going to the floor before grabbing. Happy New Year and all the best to you and Kathy in 2016.
+jpoluho
I've done the research and yes I've got an opinion on it but I have to wait a little bit longer before I express it. That being said I'll soon be looking at mine. I'm use to mine as well but that don't make it right. I'll be doing a video on the topic sometime this winter. Happy New Year to you as well.
This exact thing was happening on my Massey Ferguson GC2600. Its turns out the foot pedal linkage was corroded and sticking under the tractor. I disassembled the linkage and greased it up good. The problem disappeared. Its a very annoying issue to deal with a drifting tractor especially if your doing detailed work with the bucket.
+mattsbrute
Cool. Glad you got it worked out. Kinda nice to be able to stop ;)
just changed my block heater to find unpleasant surprises . one , the block heater failed after only 3 years because it was leaking antifreeze through the center of the unit to the electrical connection. i will now remove the 12 inch extension wire in summer . two . American distributors of Kubota parts are not allowed to sell to Canadians . 80$-90$ usd original part . 40$USD knockoff . 225$CDN here. three . the piece is not threaded but press fit to install and remove.Very scary because there is precious little info about how to do this yourself . But it can be done . 3/4 inch pipe with a female to female fitting screws on nicely , then torque it off gently . didn't even bother to take the drain plug off because it is very hard to remove and even harder to put back .
love your videos . very helpful Eric Roussil Chertsey Qc
Take the old block heater to an automotive part center. They might be able to match it up for you at a fraction of the cost. I’ve installed many frost plugs. Yes a little tricky but not bad to do. Just put liquid Teflon on them and hammer them in evenly and your good 👍
Hi Paul and Kathy ... I tried the back and forward stop test to see what my BX would do. My BX did the opposite of yours. Going backwards it stopped immediately but forward it kept going! My observation was the back and forward pedal was slow to neutralize, so I greased the pivot under the mat but it was still slow to return to center. I'm going to look and see if a little WD40 will help the other moving parts and see if that gets the pedals to center quickly ... Could the issue be that simple? I'll keep you posted!
+Bill Amore
Yes the pedal don't naturalize fast enough. Goes to show Kubota don't have any consistency when it comes to breaking with these machines. Purely dangerous in my opinion.
did you grease the HST pedal? nobody greases those. if the pedal and linkages are binding that can be part of it. also, If you touch the oppositte direction in an emergency it will stop very fast. also the machine is equipped with a brake...the hst pedal IS NOT a replacement for a brake. but I saw your other video and yes, a linkage problem.
Yes I show that grease zerk in my full service BX video. The foot brake on these things are normally only used as a parking brake. They are designed to high to use as a foot brake. I've resolved the stopping issue.
Paul, I have a BX24 with the same issue of rolling after you take your foot off the pedal. It stops quick in reverse but continues in forward for a long way.Takes a bit of getting used, but definitely not how it should work, I did see a slight improvement when I greased the pedal fitting under the floor mat, but still not right. Maybe a heavier pedal spring would return the pedal faster, not sure. I have a hydro JD riding mower that stops on a dime when pedal is released. Something wrong in the engineering with Kubota design.
jpoluho
Yup. Typical way for the BX. Mad design. The BX is the only one I've ever seen this way too.
That tractor is suppose to stop when you take your feet off the pedals. I have a John Deere tractor with the same type of transmission on it, and the tractor stops when the foot comes off the pedal.
It's been fixed. Thanks
Mine won’t stop either
I got my BX2370 which is the same tractor as the BX25D and mine did the same thing since day one and I use it mainly to mow with the 60"MMM and I do that dance with the brake and forward. or sometimes I toe the pedal up
Tyler Kruckman
Yup. So many the same way. Let's see if there's a fix for it. Be careful on that machine.
That's crazy how the tractor does that. And that is definitely not right. I'm glad you have not had an issue with it. And it should be fixed.
Tyler Donovan
Oh I'll get to the bottom of it. I just want to bring some awearness to the issue.
my BX25d stops instantly in reverse but keeps rolling when in forward, it sometimes keeps moving slowly as if i still have my foot on the pedal just slightly, i have less than 10 hours on it and its annoying.
+Gary Self
Call your selling dealer and complain. Sooner or later they'll have to repair the issue.
I know you are talking about kubotas, but my lil red stops on a dime. They are different tractors, but still should be the same, I would believe.
One of the weird things with the BX but I'm happy with it now.
I understand from a practical point of view it wouldn't be great, but it would be the brake pedal that should be used for safely stopping the machine and not the transmission? Is that what they would argue? is that what the owner's manual says?
+ruston48
Yes it could an argument BUT a good lawyer would have to ask "why do all other Kubota HST products stop when you let go of the threddle pedal and not the BX25D"?
Greeting, The BX-25D I purchased new in the U.S. in early December, 2014 stops properly. In full speed reverse, it almost stops too abruptly and really jolts me. In forward it doesn't stop as abruptly, but does stop quickly. Good luck...
My BX25D in low range (all I use) does stop very well when I lift of the pedals. I will try it in high range next time I am out on it.
That happened to me in reverse and the BX25 didn’t stop. I hit the garage and caused damage because it didn’t slow down or stop only after the switched into forward to stop more damage. I was very upset.
My kubota B21 does the something. You get use to it, and just tap reverse to stop.
It’s fixed now.
Excellent and truthful video, could help many people.
+mboiko
Thanks. It's all about awareness
We have both a BX22 and a BX25D1 both operate in this manner. Our RTV1100 will skid the tires if you take your foot off of the hydro pedal at nearly any speed forward or reverse so Kubota can produce a HST with positive transmission braking, evidently just not on the smaller tractors!
My Kabota 2601 stops normally, Ken from Vermont
Mine do now as well.
Thanks for the video. That behaviour is not normal on a Kubota HST. My 1985 B7100 HST stops on a dime if I lift off the forward or reverse pedals. You talk about liability, what happens when someone gets crushed under a rolling Kubota?? If I was Kubota I would issue an immediate recall and get this fixed.
its not hydrostatic they might say it is because they were all ment to be like that not just half way like it is. its the way it was made.
+Brent Kosakowski
The BX 25D is hydrostatic and it's the only Kubota that I've ever seen that acts like this. Some of them do, some of the same model don't which means if they were designed to not stop they all should be the same and they're not so there is a problem.
My BX25D does not have this problem. For you Kubota haters, my 12 year old JD riding mower never gave me a problem, so the first tractor I looked at was the John Deere, very nice indeed. On the advice of a friend I decided to look at the Kubota and I was very impressed, Kubota seems a bit more heavy duty then the JD and was a bit more user friendly. Still a JD fan, but in this case I had to go with Kubota and if you put the two side by side you would make the same choice.
Does it have 2 leading shoe brakes? They won't work too well in reverse.
+robert stirling
Hydro brakes. I did an updated video on the issue which solved the problem.
Hey Paul! I just stumbled across our video and took a video of my bx2360 going forward and reverse. Check it out!
My bx24 stops immediately when I take my foot off the pedal, sometimes it jars my back. Ever since kubota has put on the pedal dampers i have seen this issue. They got alot of complaints that the bx22-bx24 would stop to harshly. So they put these dampers to slowdown the pedal movement. I believe this is why they do this. When you take your foot off it takes a little bit for the pedal to return to center because the damper is there. I believe that if you take the damper off it will stop immediately just like the previous models.
Thanks for the info Paul Just bought the BX25 thought it was normal to coast back when stopping although was a little scary. Was using the two foot waltz to stop the thing.
Thank you so much for the video! We're seriously considering buying this machine. I have a couple of questions for you: 1) Did you test your tractor at the dealership? If yes, didn't this problem arise then? 2) Do you know the current status of this problem--has Kubota fixed it yet since your video is from August 2015?? I just called the dealership, and she said Kubota has them do extensive testing on each machine before it leaves their store--I'm assuming it's no different in Canada, right--or are they pulling my leg??? LASTLY, WOULD YOU STILL RECOMMEND BUYING THIS KUBOTA VERSUS ANY OTHER TRACTOR OPTION IF YOU HAD TO AGAIN?
I really appreciate your video; thanks very much!!
My BX25 (not a D) was bought new in Halifax in 2011. It stops very quickly as soon as you take your foot off the gas.
Paint it green and yellow ..lol.
Oh ya & rune it ;)
Paul, I have a 2014 BX25D. I have found that in reverse creeping backward and I lift foot, it will roll a few feet. If going backward at quicker speed and lift foot, it is an abrupt stop. forward will roll some when lift foot either fast or slow, I would say less than 10 feet.
GY Solutions
Yup. Yours got issue too. I'll do an adjustment video soon that may fix the issue.
Does anyone know which lines you switch to reverse the backhoe controls on the BX 25?
The father-in-law has an older BX25 that doesn't stop either and it's pretty clear that it's not designed to. I have driven plenty of hydrostatic vehicles that stopped immediately as you describe but then I've also driven several that do not. Really it comes down to whether or not the control valve allows fluid to bypass when near the neutral position.
The bypass is under tension like a weak pressure relief valve and so the vehicle will ultimately stop and hold position but the bypass makes the vehicle MUCH (I repeat MUCH) more comfortable to drive in repetitive forward/reverse movements than those that auto-stop. The auto-stop feature creates a much more jerky operation and when you're stacking dirt you will appreciate the bypass.
In this case I must agree with Kubota, it's not broken. You can do as you do (use opposite pedal to counter your movements) or use the brake (yes I think it's higher than it needs to be).
you should get a john deere they will stop when when you take your foot of the pedal
You should watch the follow up video to this one. JD. I don't think so.
Very informative. Safety with equipment is not the machines priority, it's the operator. I'm not a equipment owner, but have operated many, and always yelled when things were not right, sometimes it helped sometimes I got a new job..lol..Thanks Paul that was a good post for the equipment owners that have them and have same issues. !!
my bx 25d starts runs find at idle but when I move forward or backards it stalls out I change fuel filters but still stalls out when moving forward or backards
I'll have to see what mine does ... interesting to know the brake is for the emergency brake only. With that said sometimes I'll switch from forward to reverse or vise versa and it stops on a dime ... not sure if that a good thing or not. But I'll the do the stop test as you did and see what happens. On an other safety issue ... the seat. I actually received a letter from Kubota [and inset for the owners manual[ on the bolt that holds the seat in place. It was last winter, and last winter here was a bear ... my seat popped completely of the stand .. my little tent shed from Horror Fright [aka Harbor Fright] was warm and cozy, so the repair [double nutting the existing bolt] worked fine and no issues since. Thanks again Paul and Kathy for the video and information.
I have to agree with you Paul. There is no way I would let my employees use that machine. Our John Deere 4066R has a dial on it that you can adjust the roll out distance when you let off the pedal
Is the HST pedal a 4 way 3 position control valve? Is it possible That the spool springs are not strong enough, or is the spool still too flooded with oil to work properly?
Paul,
I to have a 2014 BX25D. It stops on a dime when I come off the reverse pedal. When I have a minute I'll do a video and post.
Art
BotaArt
Well your the first that said they have no issues. I've never tried one yet that was right.
I had the same problem, took it to my local dealer and they replaced the foot assembly. service manager called district and said they all have some creep. .. replacing did help but it's still there. Dealer showed me a kubota mule and it rolled as well.
I have 280hrs on mine and no problems so far. it slows down and stops at a nice rate. I wouldn't want it to instantly dead stop and give me whiplash. it is a lot safer than the old John Deere I had.
in reverse mine does it, especially going down hills or slopes. i wasnt aware it was suppose to do that and thought it was hard on the HST. now going it does the same, but not as bad as going in reverse. i usally use the break anyway. i do have a 2670 not a 25d
My 2016 BX25D-1 does NOT do that ...
It will eventually. There's an adjustment for it. I have a video on it.
My bx24 has always done the slow return to neutral thing, but I have just learned to operate it with my right foot forward and my left foot always says on the rear pedal for positive control
Can you tell me what brand/model of strobe light that you have mounted on your ROPS? I would like to buy one.
I have a brake peddle on my Kubota BX-25
+J Johnson
They all have brake pedals.
See if the 'cruise control' lever is on the 0. If it's on the one or two it will still be engaged
That's the b3030 sorry