It's amazing that researchers researched so many things about Quran that those who wrote the Quran have never known the mistakes they have created. This is the consequence of a man-made belief imposed to many victims. Always, the Light always exposes what is in the dark.
@ge7167 ........................ What made you say that Islam is a man-made belief when it is Christianity that is the man-made? Islam is the only religion of God. Even before the creation of mankind, Islam is already the religion of the angels in heavens. When the world ends, Christianity ends with it. But Islam is there to stay even in the Hereafter. It is an eternal religion. -07-30-24
@@defenderoftruth3212 Yes ... because it is. That's called a 'circular argument', Abdool. Your teeny, tiny confused god Satanallah didn't know the Trinity in 4:171, saying "God, Jesus and Mary"?!?! Please, show me ONE Jew who says 'Ezra is the son of God!' 9:30.
The Quran actually addresses those who "cover up" and distort the meaning of the Quran as kuffar. Its funny because we can see how the translations from the Arabic into English have distorted the message of the true Quran. 2.79 Woe to those who script the scripture with their own hand and say "this has been revealed by God". That is a direct message to Sahih International and Dr Mustafa Clear Koran. It's so ironic 😂
@@Ks872-h8j ..................... When Adam came down to earth, he built the Ka'aba where he made his first worship to Allah SWT. It is believed that it's also Adam who built the Masjid Al Haram. Adam's sons built the Masjid Aqsa in Jerusalem. Then rebuilt by David. Then rebuilt by Solomon. I'm sure if Prophet jESUs pbuh rebuilt it or not. But the Dome of the Rock where the writings are about him speaks otherwise. Anyway, ask Prophet jESUs pbuh for the proof in his second coming. But I think when he joins the congregation at Masjid Al Aqsa during the Friday prayer will be proof enough. -08-02-24
This is brilliant stuff, great work Murad and thank you for host Murad Dr. Jay Smith. Professor Dr. R. Kerr does say that Mohammad is read into the Quran
18:00 "Mother of cities" comes from the christian Greeks, we still use it today as "Metropolis" For sure not Jeruslem, but in Petra there is an Inscription. from wiki: !Metropolis (μητρόπολις) is a Greek word, (plural: metropoleis) coming from μήτηρ, mḗtēr meaning "mother" and πόλις, pólis meaning "city" or "town", which is how the Greek colonies of antiquity referred to their original cities, with whom they retained cultic and political-cultural connections. The word was used in post-classical Latin for the chief city of a province, the seat of the government and, in particular, ecclesiastically for the seat or see of a metropolitan bishop to whom suffragan bishops were responsible.[5] This usage equates the province with the diocese or episcopal see...."
This is pure gold. Once again, we see Muslims putting the cart before the horse, putting the SIN before the Qur'an. The Qur'an came first, but stone-kissers impose the later fables of the SIN upon the Qur'an, making it say what it obviously did not say originally. Future generations will bless Murad for this important research. He has dealt another mortal blow to the SIN, thus to Islam in general.
@@defenderoftruth3212 , the real ultracrepidarian is Yasir Qadhi. Poor fool admitted the embarrassing TRUTH about Islam, and has been backpedaling ever since. Ha ha ha!
The great shakes of islam: 1. muhummud hijab - "golden shower boy" shake 2. ali dawah - "marry my 9 year old daughter" shake 3. mansewer - shake waffler 4. hashim - "naked does not mean naked" shake 5. siraaj - table cloth shake 6. hamza - "Jesus is not my Messiah" shake 7. yasir qadi - "holes in the narrative" shake 8. zakir naik - "those who eat pig behave like pig" shake 9. farida - "moon miracle eyewitnesses were asleep at night" shake 10. Fat shake at speakers corner - milkshake 11. uthman - shake footnote
@Paul-zf8ob ....................... If the Hadith disagrees with the Surah, go for the Surah. The Hadith is supposed to explain the Surah. If it disagrees with the Surah, then the explanation in the Hadith is wrong. So, disregard the Hadith. -07-30-24
@@defenderoftruth3212 you still need the HOLY BIBLE and the man made hadiths to complete the quran and understand it. What language did JESUS speak? Where was he born? Who was adam's wife? There are 1000's of unknowns in the quran. ONLY by the HOLY BIBLE and the hadiths can you know the quran. quran is false.
When talking to an abdul: Q. How many qurans? A. One quran Q. Is hafs quran a quran? A. Yes Q. Is warsh quran a quran? A. Yes Q. Is doori quran a quran? A. Yes Q. How many qurans? A. One quran Q. Are all qurans around the world same? A. Yes Q. Do the Sana manuscript and Birmingham manuscript have variants? A. Yes Q. Are qurans preserved word for word, letter for letter? A. Yes Q. In sura 37.12, one quran says "you", another "I"? A. They are different accents Q. How many ahrufs did muhamad recite? A. 7 Q. How many ahrufs did uthman destroy? A. 6 Q. How many ahrufs today? A. 7 Q. How many qiraats did muhamad recite? A. None Q. How many qiraats today? A. 10, 15, 20, 50 Q. Is Bible preserved? A. No Q. Is muhamad prophesied in the Bible? A. Yes Q. Did muhamad marry a child? A. No Q. How old was aisha? A. 6
The Bible IS preserved and the Qur'an is nothing but corruption. How can they pretend that 700 different qira'at versions of the corruption of Uthman, who burned the original Qur'an, are all one Qur'an? They are just getting more and more ridiculous. The hadiths say that the Qur'an is corrupted. The rest of the history of the Qur'an says it's corrupted. And the Qur'an itself tells you about 5 times over that IT IS NOT FROM ALLAH. The Qur'an is full of contradictions. The Qur'an is not a complete book. The Qur'an is not in pure Arabic. The Qur'an is not a clear book. The Qur'an is contrary to science and reality. It is all garbage 🗑️.
99% of the Qurans today in circulation are exactly the same. Say 500 years from now some copies of Harry Potter book exists in a museum doesn't take away from the original.Looks preserved to me. 99% Bible is so different, you need a heavy dose of "faith" to believe.
@@hashman4090 If Christianity is true Islam is false If Christianity is a lie Islam is still false. do you know why ? Because there is no Islam without Christianity.
@@williamtan9655 ........................ How could that be? Christianity is a man-made religion while Islam is the religion of God. Even before the creation of mankind, Islam is already the religion of the angels in heavens. When the world ends, Christianity ends with it. But Islam is there to stay even in the Hereafter. It is an eternal religion. -07-30-24
What's really fascinating is how well Murad's work fits with the historical studies that already debunked the jahiliyyah, Mecca, and all of the Islamic narrative.
@@loboxx337 When muslims can't explain their cult they just change the subject. Christianity does not have any problems but islam does. You would think muslims would be trying to research & save their religion, but no, "The Trinity is three "Gods."
Many thanks for this interesting series by Murad. Perhaps another contender for the title “Mother of Settlements”… An article on NabateaDOTnet, _Archaeology and Islam #05 - Petra in The Qur'an_ , reports of Petra that Roman Emperor Marcus Aurelius Antoninus (also know as Elagabalus), during his brief rule (218 - 222), “bestowed a name on it, he called Petra the ‘Mother of Colonies’. This was an honorific. We see it as early as the third century AD and it also occurs in the sixth-century in the Petra papyri: *The Mother of All Colonies* ….Petra Papyri also revealed another term used for the city of Petra: A unique term; not used in the Roman Empire. And it means: Blessed or Noble. Getting an exact meaning of this word is difficult, as around this time the meaning of the word was changing. It originally meant noble, or even blessed but at this time, the Christian world began to use the term meaning ‘holy.’ And so the Petra papyri they use this term and they apply it to churches, and other big buildings even tombs and civic buildings. They are called noble. Hence, the exact meaning of this word at this time remains uncertain. Neither ‘holy’ nor ‘noble’ nor ‘blessed’ would apply to a city. It’s a strange name, but that’s the name that Petra had, a very unique name and the People of Petra were very proud of their name, the Holy and the Blessed or the Noble city.” On the same site, in a video transcript of _Q&A #22 Petra Earthquakes_ , Dan Gibson says, “[F]or years, it was assumed that Petra fell into ruins in the 3rd or 4th centuries and that it was not functioning during the time of Muhammad and the founding years of Islam….But all of this changed in 1993. The discovery of the Petra Scrolls changed our view of Petra during the 5th and 6th centuries AD. In 1993, Hamoudi al-Bedoul, a local Bedouin, discovered the first remains of carbonized papyrus scrolls while excavating at a Byzantine Church in Petra….These scrolls were written down during the time that the prophet Muhammad was a young man. That is what makes them so important to our study of the Qiblas. Here we have a very narrow window back into time, to the exact place that the archaeological records indicate was where the prophet Muhammad lived as a young man. But this is an extremely narrow window. It is all about one family. It is a Christian family, and these legal documents that were found in the Christian quarter of Petra, in the back room of a church. We must not expect them to throw light onto the pagan side of the city or the greater picture of what is going on….After every earthquake of 551 CE, 19 years before Muhammad was born, people dug themselves out of the ruins and rebuilt their homes. Any destruction from the 551 AD earthquake was mostly cleaned up, just as the city recovered from the earthquake of 363 AD. So when the Petra Scrolls were written, there was a thriving city, and people were active in the area all around Petra….in 713 94 AH another great earthquake hit Petra, and indeed the entire Mediterranean seacoast was affected. Even the mosque in Jericho was destroyed, so much so that it was never rebuilt. Petra was never rebuilt after this and it passed from history. After this massive earthquake, the Umayyad buildings in Amman needed to be rebuilt. Al-Ṭabarī notes that this massive earthquake affected much of Syria as well, so it seems Mu’awiyah did not manage to escape the affect of earthquakes….” Dan reports another earthquake 34 years later (746 CE, 128 AH) that destroyed cities in Syria and Jordan. I wonder if these quakes contributed to local anticipations of imminent “end time”.
actualy Petra "vanished" aorund 600 ad, probably abandoned for economic reason. It had 2 churches and collosseum and was the regional Capitol for Arabia Petrea, but likely lost importance as a trading Hub and then was damaged by earthquakes. Archeologists found the People made hasty repairs, but youngest coins and documents are around 604. Also Petra is almost not mentioned in roman/ byzanthine ReEports from this time which indicates that there ws no more interest and trading and culture had moved to other cities.
@@slippingsnake Thank you for joining in and for the information. Dan mentions (in the above transcript) that many of the forts that formed the Roman-Byzantine ‘security belt’ east of Petra were abandoned during the 5th and 6th centuries, “Most likely because any military threat was coming from Persia, not the Arabian desert”; also that “The Byzantines ruled from a great distance. The area around Petra and north was controlled by Christian tribes who were client rulers for the Byzantines, but the Byzantine army was not in Petra. In fact, there is no evidence of any army barracks in Petra. This really was the backside of the Byzantine Empire, on the edge of the desert.” He described Petra around this time as “mostly a provincial capital, reliant on local agriculture and trade.”
They also translate it, in their speech, as "zaman jahillyah" like "in the era or time period of ignorance". Because they've always prefixed it like that, I've always thought of it like that... the era before islam.
@fantasia55 ..................... God Allah SWT had an official designation for Mecca as the Mother of Cities. Roman is nothing compared to God. So, why believed in Roman than God? Is the Roman your god? -09-12-24
Historians have established that there was no more polytheism in Arabia in the 7th century as most Arabs, especially in cities, had been christianized. Therefore the "mushrikuns" so often cited in the quran, often translated as "polytheists" or "associators" or "idolaters" refer in fact to christians who believe in trinity (meaning that they give "associates" to God, which is considered in islam to be the worse sin called "shirk") ... and not at all to so-called "pagans" or "idolaters" from Mecca (which did not even exist in the 7th century).
In surah 53:19-23, Mohammad talked to the pagans of Mecca who worshiped the goddesses Allat, Manat, and Al-Uzza. You're saying the Quran is wrong, that Allah is a liar.
@@jeangatti9384 Edit: I assumed you were Muslim based on your original post. It reeks of Islamic propaganda. In any case, uniquely Arabian paganism was absolutely practiced in the 7th century. We know about their gods and goddesses, beliefs, rituals/practices, places of worship, etc. I would be happy to compile my sources and post them after you provide scholarly sources supporting your claims.
@@Ks872-h8j historical research proves that the city of Mecca could not have existed as a large commercial caravan city in the years 600 AD Main reasons for this fact are: 1) Mecca is not an oasis, so there is no surface water (only a well, known as zamzam which is clearly unsufficient and inappropriate for watering many caravan camels) 2) Mecca is not shown on any map at that time or even previously 3) Mecca is located down of Hidjaz plateau and could therefore not be located on the caravan route which is located more than 1000 m above on the plateau (eg the city of Taeef is located at an altitude of ca 2000 m while Mecca is at 300 m) 4) there were no archeological remains or artefacts (coins, potteries, ruins, bones etc) discovered in Mecca dating from before circa year 700 5) no agriculture whatsoever is possible in this wild rocky desert location, how could a large city survive in such hostile environment ?
You Muslim stopped your ignorance don’t you not know that you have your own three gods allah, quan and spirit before I add Muhammad as a number fourth god. Can you be Muslim without believing in Muhammad? @garybowings1538
I used Google search to research islam I look up what's the oldest piece of islam history and see nothing before Momo,is there evidence Momo claims to be a prophet when he was alive and their is nothing before momo and in ten minutes I destroyed the cult then I look up ancient Christian history and Jesus Christ and I can say Jesus Christ is king
@@charananekibalijaun8837 I bet you did not research anything and that's the problem with people like you theirs 5000 years of Christian and Jesus Christ history in the bible and you don't won't to see the truth you believe islam is real but theirs no evidence at all proving Muhammad claims to be a prophet when he was alive and you believe in it 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@charananekibalijaun8837 You have to live before you can die!! After the death [and resurrection] of Jesus it is now 2024.! The world knows that He lived. You can chose to ignore that at your own peril.
There is an entire historical lack of linguistics that specializes in Arabic. By now western scholars would have taken all the oldest manuscripts (i.e. Sanaa, Topkapi etc.) and isolated the controversial textual disputes that translators would later need to refer to when making their translations. Obviously no Muslim would do this because Islam forbids that kind of innovation. After all why bother if it is already perfect and to say otherwise is a life and death sin. In a way you can't entirely blame average Imams and Sheiks for getting things wrong. It would be dudes who are at Yasir Quadi's intellectual level that THINK they are doing God's will by NOT THINKING. That is sadly🤣🤣🤣
Refuting the claim that the Quran has remained unchanged since its revelation. 1. **Early Manuscript Variants**: - Early Quranic manuscripts, such as the Sana'a manuscripts discovered in Yemen, show variations in text compared to the standardized Uthmanic version. These manuscripts date back to the 7th and 8th centuries and include textual variations, suggesting that the Quran's text was not entirely uniform initially. 2. **Codification by Caliph Uthman**: - Caliph Uthman ibn Affan, the third caliph, is known for commissioning a standardized version of the Quran around 650 CE. He ordered the burning of other Quranic manuscripts that differed from this standardized text. This action indicates there were multiple versions of the Quran in circulation before his standardization effort. 3. **Hadith Reports**: - Several Hadiths (sayings of Prophet Muhammad and his companions) indicate that there were differences in the recitation and text of the Quran among Muhammad's companions. For instance, the Hadith in Sahih Bukhari mentions that companions like Abdullah ibn Mas'ud had differences in their Quranic texts compared to the Uthmanic codex. 4. **Scholarly Research**: - Academic research by scholars like Dr. Gerd R. Puin and Dr. Patricia Crone has highlighted the existence of textual variants and changes in early Quranic manuscripts. Their work indicates that the Quranic text evolved over time and was subject to editorial processes. 5. **Orthographic and Dialectical Variations**: - The Quran was revealed in a dialect of Arabic that was not uniformly understood by all Arab tribes. Early Muslims recited and wrote the Quran in their local dialects, leading to variations in pronunciation and orthography. The standardization by Uthman aimed to unify these differences, but traces of dialectical variations are still evident in early manuscripts.
@@hashman40901923 we had 30 canonized Quran with over 93,000 differences.. they chose one of the readings of one of the Qirat as a standard.. we now have proof there were 6 or 7 variants over the next few years as it was standardized for school in Cairo and then Someone Standardized it as The Quran in 1984.. 3% still use the Warsh which is ascribed as being from Mecca, while the rest use one from what near Bagdad or something….. preserved LOL
Dr Jay Mecca is there once in the quran 48:24 al fath ..... Can you dive in that a little bit ..... All you tell about mecca is true but there is one mention ..... Kindly dwelve into it please i wanna know your thoughts on that term
@harshmanhv In which quran there are 26 qurans and 93000 errors / differences. He does address your question in his lecture on The Origins of Islam here on YT
@@murielpucoe9213 ...................... What did she count? The footnotes on the page-side? It took Bart Ehrman for a long time to list the discrepancies in just the 4 make-believe gospels. He had to adopt a parallel system of listing by putting the Mark's gospel against Matthew's, against Luke's, against John's. What kind of system had Hatun Tash's adopted to discover as much as 93k variants so fast? We are speaking of 26 Qur'ans. -07-30-24
Hi Dr. Jay, I just want to know your commentary regarding the siege of Jerusalemr by the Muslims/ Rashidun Army on the year 636 as per the History. Is these True that it happened?
There’s a full Chapter in the Quran titled , Muhammad.. don’t believe everything you hear . That’s like saying Jesus is not mentioned in the Bible . Ridiculous isn’t it ?
@@Foozool When did the chapters get titles? Do you find it weird that the Muhammad chapter barely mentions Muhammad? Jesus _saturates_ the gospels, Muhammad does not remotely saturate the Quran, so you can't draw a parallel of ridiculousness
@@muskyoxes the bible ? Which one ? There are more than 300 different versions . And the first bible was written three centuries after Jesus . It was written by people who said the earth was flat … Don’t get me started on the bible . It will embarrass you
If Mohammed existed, he was a false profit. The Koran says that Jesus was an important prophet. But Jesus taught peace and forgiveness. Not one steady suggest that anyone should be killed for reason. he said, forgive your enemies. Let him who is without sin cast the first stone. And he warned that there would be false prophets. But Muhammad’s teaching is about killing nonbelievers, contrary to the prophet Jesus, therefore Muhammad was a false prophet..
He was a false prophet according to the book he made himself. Qs 16:99-100 says that satan has no authority over the believers. Satan's power only works on people who are friends and associates with satan. We know that mhmad was under the influence of black magic for some time (Sahih al-Bukhari 5763; Sahih Muslim 2189a) which means satanic forces were working on him. We also know that satan succeeded in making mhmad recite the satanic verses (Qs 53:19-21).
I look forward to that DAY when it will be written on stone that this Deen is a JudeoChristian HERESY probably a sub-sect of the Sadducees😅( Sad U Cee) God bless you brethren & keep up the good work..Ameen.
My post, Jahiliyyah The word Jahiliyyah occurs some four times in quran. S 3:154 Then he sent down upon you after the grief security--drowsiness covering a band of you and a band whose souls distressed them, thinking of Allah other than the truth. The thought of the Jahiliyyah, saying: Do we have anything from the affair? Say: The affair, all of it, is Lah’s. They hide in themselves what they do not reveal to you. They say: If we had something from the affair we would not have been killed here. Say: Had you been in your houses those whom killing was written upon would have gone out to their beds. And that Allah might test what is in your chests and that he might purge what is in your hearts. And Allah is learned in that in the chests. S 5:50 So is it the judgment of the Jahiliyyah they seek? And who is better than Allah in judgment for people who are certain? S 33:33 And stay in your houses and do not dress up as the dressing up of the first jahiliyyah. And perform salat and give the zakat and obey Allah and his messenger. Allah only wants to remove rijs from you, household, and to purify you with purification. Allah the Filthy Monkey The first Jahiliyyah? S 48:26 When he had put zeal in the hearts of those who had disbelieved, the zeal of the Jahiliyyah. Then Allah sent down his shekhinah upon his messenger and upon the believers and compelled them to the word of taqwa and they had more right to it and were more deserving of it. And Allah was learned in everything. The Shekhinah in the Quran Definitions: Relative noun (nisba) composed of جَاهِل (jāhil, “ignorant”) + ـِيَّة (-iyya). Noun[edit] جَاهِلِيَّة • (jāhiliyya) f (rare, uncountable) the state of ignorance synonym, antonym ▲quotations ▲ Synonym: جَهْل (jahl) Antonym: عَالِمِيَّة (ʕālimiyya) (Can we date this quote?), الإيجي, كتاب المواقف: […] لو أوجب الحكم للكل كما ذهبتم إليه لزم كون الكل عالما جاهلا معا إذا قام العلم بجزء منه وقام الجهل بآخر لا يقال هذا أي قيام العلم بجزء مع قيام الجهل بجزء آخر تقدير محال لتضادهما أي لتضاد العلم والجهل باعتبار تضاد حكميهما أعني العالمية والجاهلية فإذا قام العلم بجزء لم يجز قيام الجهل بجزء آخر وإلا كان الكل عالما وجاهلا معا […] (please add an English translation of this quotation) (derogatory) (with ال (al-, “the”)) pre-Islamic Arabia (conceived as an era of moral and religious ignorance) جاهلية - Wiktionary, the free dictionary As Abraham and Ishmael were supposedly in Arabia before the founder of Islam's birth, were all Arabs ignorant of Islam? If the former, 'prophets', were Muslims, presuming that they preached, wasn't there Islam in Arabia? What about the rest of the world? Was there a knowledge of Islam everywhere but in Arabia, considering Musa, Isa, etc., supposedly Muslims? Islam Passages
@Sabatonrex is that doc on TH-cam? Would like to see that. The Nabutean theory is just a total load of made up nonsense. I can't believe that stuff passes for science.
@@murielpucoe9213 .................. Why did Dan Gibson stop the pointing of his measurement at Petra? What is his purpose in mind? Why not before Petra? Or beyond Petra? -07-30-24
@@coltonconner782 ......................... If ever Prophet Muhammad pbuh named a place in honor of someone, he would rather prefer either Hagar or Ishmael than Rebecca which had no connection to him. -09-12-24
Surah Al-Fath - 24 He is the One Who held back their hands from you and your hands from them in the valley of ˹Ḥudaibiyah, near˺ Mecca, after giving you the upper hand over ˹a group of˺ them.1 And Allah is All-Seeing of what you do. by name Muhammad mentioned 5 times in the Quran. by saying O' prophet, how many times I have to count it.
@@mysotiras21 ....................... Ask Prophet jESUs pbuh when he comes back if it is true that he prophesied of the coming of another prophet after him by the name of Ahmad. -07-30-24
I found Jesus In Culver City calif. Jesus returns !!!!!! Jesus lopez cut my lawn today. I gave him a fiver. he said 'god bless you ' I said ' do you mean you bless me ' lol
The Quran is invalid because Jesus says in Revelation 22, verses 18 to 19 18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: 19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.
From the book "the Qur'an in Its Historical Context: The earliest reference to the Qur'an is thought to be the Epitaph of Imru' al-Qays, which dates back to 328 CE in Nemara, Syria. Other early references include: A dedication to Obodas in 'Ayn Abada/En Avdat, Palestine, around the second century CE A funerary text in Hegra, Saudi Arabia, in 267 CE A building text in Zebed, Syria, around 512 CE A graffito in Jabal Usays, Syria, in 529 CE A building text in Harran, Syria, in 569 CE A funerary text in Nebo, Jordan, in the mid-sixth century CE Graffiti in Umm Judhayidh, NW Arabia, around the fourth to fifth century
@@mysotiras21 ........................ Read the book THE QUR'AN DATES BACK TO MUHAMMAD? by Professor Marijn Van Putten, University of Leiden. -07-30-24
There is NOT any accounts NOR any riwayats in the SIN, which stating that Muhammad ever performed, any of the 5 daily prayers, either leading as the imaam or following other person as "makmoom", in front of the kaabah, in masjid al haram, in mekah . Not even during his prolonged stay in Mekah, on route to Arafat during the "Last Hajj" (Haji al Wida') NONE, ZERO.
@mhd4545 ........................... It's not only the 5-time a day prayer that Prophet Muhammad pbuh. He even performed the 'optional' prayers. He spent hours in praying 'optional' prayers. -09-07-24
@@mhd4545 ....................... Common sense will tell you that after Prophet Muhammad pbuh made the Night Journey to the 7th Heaven and returned at dawn in the same place where he took off which is Mecca, he brought with him the 5-time-a-day-daily-prayer. And from then on, he and his followers performed the 'prayer' religiously. So, where do you think they were performing their prayer? They went outside of Mecca just to perform the 'prayer'? Think aloud, man. -09-12-24
@@defenderoftruth3212 What are you talking about ? Didnt you know when was the night journey ? Didnt you know where was the initial “qiblat” , for prayers ? Didnt you know when was the qiblat changed to be Makkah ? Didnt you know kaabah was a “filthy” place with hundred of idols, until Muhammad saw conquered Makkah (Fath ul Makkah), 8 years after Hijrah If you have the reference, I am looking for , ie for the event during the last hajj (Hajj of Wida) Your common sense is “too emotional”
@@mhd4545 .............................. I don't know what are you talking about. As far as I know the 5-time-a-day-daily-prayer was the main reason why Allah SWT called Prophet Muhammad pbuh to go to the 7th Heaven. I don't know if you have heard about the first offered number of prayer is 50 times a day as what had been commanded to Moses. But when Moses knew of that number, he told Prophet Muhammad pbuh to beg for a small number because his people failed to accomplish it. Prophet Muhammad pbuh went back and forth until the number was lessened to only 5. Still Moses insisted to let the Prophet to ask to lower it down, but the Prophet declined since he already ashamed. And so the number remained at 5 but its equivalent is 50. And this is the number that he brought down and taught to his followers. You are correct that the first Qiblah was not Ka'aba. It was the Masjid Al Aqsa. But later it was changed to Ka'aba. And it remained in Ka'aba until now. Ka'aba may have been a 'filthy' place because of the idols. But I'm not sure of it. As far as I know the idols had been already destroyed by Abraham which caused the pagan Arabs to burn him. But by the miracle of Allah SWT, the fire became as cold as ice to Abraham. Hence, he was not burn. So, if there were still idols at Ka'aba during the time of Prophet Muhammad pbuh, it means that the pagan Arabs put anew there. But we are talking about your allegation that Prophet Muhammad pbuh did not perform a 5-time daily prayer. And my stand is that it is only the 5-time daily prayer that he performed, he also performed optional prayers. As a matter of fact, he spent much of his time in optional prayers after performing the obligatory prayers. -09-13-24
@@coltonconner782 ............................... The Old Testament is the Jewish Tanakh which was being plagiarized word for word by the Bible writers. The Tanakh preaches the worship pf only one God. So, how could there be Trinity in the OT? -09-12-24
People wake up this Murad is conman . One time plays the role of Muslim apologist debating christian prince and this time he is christian polemist . just check this video by title and compare his english accent is Murad's accent christian prince vs imam sheikh Dr Rohi from al azhar university
Very simple argument against Muhammad, why no prophets between Malachi and him, a period of about 1200 years, other than supposedly Jesus? The story may have had some slight plausibility if Muhammad had been born in the 7th century BC, during or shortly after Malachi's lifetime, but instead the story is that there was Malachi then nothing for about 6 centuries and then Jesus appeared and then the same thing happened again, another 6 centuries passed and then Muhammad appeared. Firstly, why even put Jesus in there, why not just skip directly from Malachi to Muhammad? What prophecies did Jesus make that had any affect on anything? Secondly, what would the logic be in skipping several centuries between the 3 supposed prophets? Thirdly, what did Muhammad prophecy that had any affect on anything? So we're supposed to believe that YHWH skipped several centuries with no prophets at all, then a completely pointless prophet appeared to deliver no prophecies other than the temple predictably being destroyed, then waited several more centuries and then used another prophet to deliver nothing of any consequence, just "just want to confirm that the Torah is true but it forgot to mention a bunch of times that Allah has no offspring deities, so I made a whole new book to say that about 1000 times just in case anybody has a crazy idea that I have 3 daughters and possibly a son".
Our beloved prophet Muhammad (sallallahu sallam) has a whole chapter on his name ❤ Surah Muhammad is the 47 Surah in Quran Kareem with 38 ayat Qur'an 33:40 Muhammad is not the father of [any] one of your men, but [he is] the Messenger of Allah and last of the prophets. And ever is Allah , of all things, Knowing. Mecca Mecca or Makkah mentioned 10 times. Qur'an 48:24 He is the One Who held back their hands from you and your hands from them in the valley of ˹Ḥudaibiyah, near˺ Mecca, after giving you the upper hand over ˹a group of˺ them. And Allah is All-Seeing of what you do. Qur'an Medina mentioned 5 times. Qur'an 9:101 And among those around you of the bedouins are hypocrites, and [also] from the people of Madinah. They have become accustomed to hypocrisy. You, [O Muhammad], do not know them, [but] We know them. We will punish them twice [in this world]; then they will be returned to a great punishment. Qur'an has as well the words. Chapter Mary not even the Bible has . Muslims, Islam ,Quran, Injil, Torah, Trinity, Jews ,Christians,. The word Bible is not in your Bible. The word trinity is not in your Bible.
🤔 does is not put islam in a dilemma when you have translators writting what they se fit, and have over 30 different Qurans in use. And then they try to tell us that our sricptures have been corrupted 🤷♂️ i would have thought they stopped and read what they were writting when they came to Surat Al-Baqarah 2:79 😂😂😂
@ObiwanDKchannel .................... What do you understand by Surah 2:79? Q. 2:79. So woe to those who write the "scripture" with their own hands, then say, "This is from Allah," in order to exchange it for a small price. Woe to them for what their hands have written and woe to them for what they earn. -09-13-24
Anyone have any writings or books regarding Jerusalem/Nabatea/Petra in the 5th and 6th century. I feel we are getting closer to the proto Islamic/Gnostif belief that influenced Abbasid Islam and Abdul Malik.
@@graceland395 ..................... I'm not referring to Becca or Mecca. But there are places mentioned in the Bible which are already different from today. So, I'll throw back your question to you, "Why all these lies???" -09-13-24
@@defenderoftruth3212 The bible is holy book. In most cases, you will the name of the place was so and so before it became so and so. Do you have such in your Qur'an?
@@phillipbradshaw ........................... Read the book THE QUR'AN DATES BACK TO MUHAMMAD? by Professor Marijn Van Putten, University of Leiden. -07-30-24
ما تقوله موجود ونعرفه مسبقا. ويرجى عدم تطبيق معايير المسيحيه على الاسلام حتى يكون لكلامكم معنى وهل تعتقد باني ساترك الاسلام لديانه تشرع و تحلل لنتنياهو واليهود جرائمهم
Do you know that 70% of the Quran is plagiarized from other sources The poetry in the Quran (30%) is from 4th 5th and 6th century Christian hymns discovered by German Professor Gunther Lulling
Do you know Mecca could not of existed before the 5th Century No artifact has been found in Saudi Arabia dated before the 8th Century which lines up with the first mention in history of Mecca by the Byzantine Romans in 741 AD Conclusion Islam definitely and completely false
What about the crimes of muslims against all the Christian prosecution in Africa, Middle east, South East Asia? What about the crimes killing apostasy? what about the crimes of Turkey against Millions of Armenians? Can you answer me please?
@@mysotiras21 ....................... You are now making yourself ridiculous. Just to evade from reality that you are worshipping three gods - Father, Jesus and Holy Spirit, you are making diversion to accuse Muslims of worshipping four gods inspite of the fact that you know that the God of Muslims is only Allah SWT. Just face the reality. But if you are not anymore comfortable with the reality of your religion, then think of another option. It's not yet late. -07-30-24
@@defenderoftruth3212 , LOL!!! ALL the EXPERTS on religion AGREE that Christianity is monotheistic. Only braindead stone-kissers think that the Trinity is 3 separate Gods smooshed together. I suggest you worry about PAGAN Islam instead. It has FOUR HEATHEN gods. Hint: REAL monotheists do NOT kiss stones to expiate their sins.
Mecca and Mohammad are referenced in Quran. Unlike the Gospels who talk only about Jesus, Quran is meant for humanity, so there is not much about Mecca or Mohammad about it. Jesus is a cult figure .
LOL!!! Muhammad NEVER EXISTED. ZERO 7th century historical evidence for him. Mecca did NOT exist in the 7th century. All of Islam is a HOAX, crated in the 8th-11th centuries. Try and keep up.
@@Passer__ , not weird in the wonky world of Islam. Look how the Islamic sources portray Muhammad, who is supposedly the best of men and a role model for humanity. Those sources paint Momo as a murderer, enslaver, rapist, p-dophile, practitioner of sexual slavery, warmonger, caravan robber, wife-beater, adulterer, satyromaniac, oath-breaker, liar, etc.
@mnoorbhai his work may not have much effect on most people but many of the well known scholars and academics on this subject seem to be shifting in their views now. They acknowledge that rather than just a pagan milieu as the SIN seems indicate the region of Hijaz was probably more mixed and firmly monotheistic possibly a mix of Jewish and Christian, Zoroastrian, Manichaeans etc
@@elizabethsorenson8942 Dude , never debates Islamic scholars but goes on regurgating his created falacies with stooges , the acid test is if his work was true , real Islamic scholars , theology and history professors, etc. would not dispute and start taking this guy,s SIN the issue seriously , ...thousands have studied and confirm that the Islamic narratives we have today are considered a fairly true representation of the practices , same with biblical narratives which have clearly been shown to have been corrupted manipulated, etc over time to a larger extent .what this dude is trying to do is show that the Quran is not reliable but the acid test here is which of the two is more reliable , nearly all agree that the Quran comes as the more authentic reliable uncorrupted and so the argument ends ..but this dude continues to create his falacy stories with his stooges .
@@mnoorbhai yes that is your view and I still disagree with you respectfully . It is not the final cult and never will be. People change, the world changes and so do the cults as is evident at the present time
@@elizabethsorenson8942 If yiu claim Islam is a cult than it is a better cult as it is the youngest ism and had grown the fastest to overtake all isms , that's the scit test of truth .and shows no sign of abating
The evidence says otherwise If you believe in Human Rights (a concept derived from Judeo Christian Values and Beliefs) then you cannot believe in Islam You cannot find or get Human Rights from Islam
70% of the Quran is plagiarized from other sources The poetry in the Quran (30%) was plagiarized from 4th 5th and 6th century Christian hymns discovered by German Professor Gunther Lulling
A time will come when we will know about God and who is right for I will go with the teachings of Jesus and his apostles as it’s a message of love and kindness no rape and murder
The earlier idols (false deities) were statues erected of pious people of previous generations. These people were later wrongly prayed to and taken as deities. These type of misguided beliefs of taking humans as deities or gods exist in pagan and polytheist religions, past and present. A human taking another human as a deity or God is falsehood. It makes absolutely no sense for a human to pray to (worship) another human. Deity Incarnation where a human is believed to be a deity or God coming down in this world as a human is among the misguided claims in pagan and polytheist religions, past and present. Claiming a human is God manifest as a human is among the misguided claims in pagan and polytheist religions. Claiming a spirit in a human is a deity or God is among the misguided claims in pagan and polytheist religions. Claiming God having sons or daughters is among the misguides claims in pagan and polytheists religions. All that I mentioned about idolatry, pagan and polytheist religions you can look it up online including from their own sources. The misguided belief of taking Jesus as a deity or God is against what Jesus himself believe and taught. It is against what all the guided prophets that include Noah, Abraham and Moses believed and taught. It is against the foremost of the religion which is the first and foremost commandment. Abraham did not pray to Jesus which is a man's name. Abraham did not pray to three persons. God is not a human God created humans As great a human Jesus is, he still is human.
@@coltonconner782 ...................... You have just committed the grievous sin. Recompense for it may or may not be felt here, but it will surely be meted out in the Hereafter. -09-16-24
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It's amazing that researchers researched so many things about Quran that those who wrote the Quran have never known the mistakes they have created. This is the consequence of a man-made belief imposed to many victims. Always, the Light always exposes what is in the dark.
@ge7167 ........................
What made you say that Islam is a man-made belief when it is Christianity that is the man-made? Islam is the only religion of God. Even before the creation of mankind, Islam is already the religion of the angels in heavens. When the world ends, Christianity ends with it. But Islam is there to stay even in the Hereafter. It is an eternal religion. -07-30-24
@@defenderoftruth3212 Why should we believe what you wrote? You have no proof.
@@defenderoftruth3212 Yes ... because it is. That's called a 'circular argument', Abdool. Your teeny, tiny confused god Satanallah didn't know the Trinity in 4:171, saying "God, Jesus and Mary"?!?! Please, show me ONE Jew who says 'Ezra is the son of God!' 9:30.
The Quran actually addresses those who "cover up" and distort the meaning of the Quran as kuffar. Its funny because we can see how the translations from the Arabic into English have distorted the message of the true Quran.
2.79 Woe to those who script the scripture with their own hand and say "this has been revealed by God".
That is a direct message to Sahih International and Dr Mustafa Clear Koran.
It's so ironic 😂
@@Ks872-h8j .....................
When Adam came down to earth, he built the Ka'aba where he made his first worship to Allah SWT.
It is believed that it's also Adam who built the Masjid Al Haram.
Adam's sons built the Masjid Aqsa in Jerusalem. Then rebuilt by David. Then rebuilt by Solomon. I'm sure if Prophet jESUs pbuh rebuilt it or not. But the Dome of the Rock where the writings are about him speaks otherwise.
Anyway, ask Prophet jESUs pbuh for the proof in his second coming. But I think when he joins the congregation at Masjid Al Aqsa during the Friday prayer will be proof enough. -08-02-24
Thanks Dr Jay Smith, i am always eager to study your videos and share this valuable information
This is brilliant stuff, great work Murad and thank you for host Murad Dr. Jay Smith. Professor Dr. R. Kerr does say that Mohammad is read into the Quran
The Mother of cities is Petra
petra was known as the Metropolis lit on greek metro (mother) polis (city)
Also almost all early mosques faced Petra.
18:00 "Mother of cities" comes from the christian Greeks, we still use it today as "Metropolis"
For sure not Jeruslem, but in Petra there is an Inscription.
from wiki:
!Metropolis (μητρόπολις) is a Greek word, (plural: metropoleis) coming from μήτηρ, mḗtēr meaning "mother" and πόλις, pólis meaning "city" or "town", which is how the Greek colonies of antiquity referred to their original cities, with whom they retained cultic and political-cultural connections.
The word was used in post-classical Latin for the chief city of a province, the seat of the government and, in particular, ecclesiastically for the seat or see of a metropolitan bishop to whom suffragan bishops were responsible.[5] This usage equates the province with the diocese or episcopal see...."
This is pure gold. Once again, we see Muslims putting the cart before the horse, putting the SIN before the Qur'an. The Qur'an came first, but stone-kissers impose the later fables of the SIN upon the Qur'an, making it say what it obviously did not say originally. Future generations will bless Murad for this important research. He has dealt another mortal blow to the SIN, thus to Islam in general.
@mysotiras21 ..................
I think Murad is just another 'Ultracrepidarian' like Jay Smith. -07-30-24
@@defenderoftruth3212 , the real ultracrepidarian is Yasir Qadhi. Poor fool admitted the embarrassing TRUTH about Islam, and has been backpedaling ever since. Ha ha ha!
@@defenderoftruth3212you are utterly delusional
The great shakes of islam:
1. muhummud hijab - "golden shower boy" shake
2. ali dawah - "marry my 9 year old daughter" shake
3. mansewer - shake waffler
4. hashim - "naked does not mean naked" shake
5. siraaj - table cloth shake
6. hamza - "Jesus is not my Messiah" shake
7. yasir qadi - "holes in the narrative" shake
8. zakir naik - "those who eat pig behave like pig" shake
9. farida - "moon miracle eyewitnesses were asleep at night" shake
10. Fat shake at speakers corner - milkshake
11. uthman - shake footnote
Come on SHAKES. shake it off.
Ooooh! Alonzo! You have made my day! Even isf you believe in three Gods!😂😂😂
If the Koran explains itself perfectly why all the Hadith and Sura disagreements?
@Paul-zf8ob .......................
If the Hadith disagrees with the Surah, go for the Surah. The Hadith is supposed to explain the Surah. If it disagrees with the Surah, then the explanation in the Hadith is wrong. So, disregard the Hadith. -07-30-24
@@defenderoftruth3212 you still need the HOLY BIBLE and the man made hadiths to complete the quran and understand it.
What language did JESUS speak? Where was he born? Who was adam's wife? There are 1000's of unknowns in the quran. ONLY by the HOLY BIBLE and the hadiths can you know the quran.
quran is false.
When talking to an abdul:
Q. How many qurans?
A. One quran
Q. Is hafs quran a quran?
A. Yes
Q. Is warsh quran a quran?
A. Yes
Q. Is doori quran a quran?
A. Yes
Q. How many qurans?
A. One quran
Q. Are all qurans around the world same?
A. Yes
Q. Do the Sana manuscript and Birmingham manuscript have variants?
A. Yes
Q. Are qurans preserved word for word, letter for letter?
A. Yes
Q. In sura 37.12, one quran says "you", another "I"?
A. They are different accents
Q. How many ahrufs did muhamad recite?
A. 7
Q. How many ahrufs did uthman destroy?
A. 6
Q. How many ahrufs today?
A. 7
Q. How many qiraats did muhamad recite?
A. None
Q. How many qiraats today?
A. 10, 15, 20, 50
Q. Is Bible preserved?
A. No
Q. Is muhamad prophesied in the Bible?
A. Yes
Q. Did muhamad marry a child?
A. No
Q. How old was aisha?
A. 6
The Bible IS preserved and the Qur'an is nothing but corruption. How can they pretend that 700 different qira'at versions of the corruption of Uthman, who burned the original Qur'an, are all one Qur'an?
They are just getting more and more ridiculous.
The hadiths say that the Qur'an is corrupted.
The rest of the history of the Qur'an says it's corrupted.
And the Qur'an itself tells you about 5 times over that IT IS NOT FROM ALLAH.
The Qur'an is full of contradictions.
The Qur'an is not a complete book.
The Qur'an is not in pure Arabic.
The Qur'an is not a clear book.
The Qur'an is contrary to science and reality.
It is all garbage 🗑️.
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😂😂
But I thought Muhammad didn't exist like it said in the video?
99% of the Qurans today in circulation are exactly the same. Say 500 years from now some copies of Harry Potter book exists in a museum doesn't take away from the original.Looks preserved to me. 99% Bible is so different, you need a heavy dose of "faith" to believe.
Jazakallah! I now rely upon The Saint to enlighten me.
@mannyhabib2867 .....................
So Murad is now your book. -07-30-24
Without Lies Islam Dies
@@williamtan9655 without the lie that is Christianity how will Islam grow ?
@@hashman4090 If Christianity is true
Islam is false
If Christianity is a lie
Islam is still false.
do you know why ?
Because there is no Islam without Christianity.
@@williamtan9655👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
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@@williamtan9655 ........................
How could that be? Christianity is a man-made religion while Islam is the religion of God. Even before the creation of mankind, Islam is already the religion of the angels in heavens. When the world ends, Christianity ends with it. But Islam is there to stay even in the Hereafter. It is an eternal religion. -07-30-24
What's really fascinating is how well Murad's work fits with the historical studies that already debunked the jahiliyyah, Mecca, and all of the Islamic narrative.
The trinity is three gods.
@@AlonzoHarris235 Deflect and lie.
@@AlonzoHarris235 How long have you been trolling here?
There has been so many "nails driven into the coffin of islam" there is no longer room for any more nails! Read & weep, Alonzo.
@@loboxx337 When muslims can't explain their cult they just change the subject. Christianity does not have any problems but islam does. You would think muslims would be trying to research & save their religion, but no, "The Trinity is three "Gods."
Shukran Jazilan Murad, and thank you Jay
The most beautiful voice speaking the language of Allah, ❤
@lydiaanello6208 the only Allah I've ever met is a hotel maid that speaks Russian.
Many thanks for this interesting series by Murad.
Perhaps another contender for the title “Mother of Settlements”… An article on NabateaDOTnet, _Archaeology and Islam #05 - Petra in The Qur'an_ , reports of Petra that Roman Emperor Marcus Aurelius Antoninus (also know as Elagabalus), during his brief rule (218 - 222), “bestowed a name on it, he called Petra the ‘Mother of Colonies’. This was an honorific. We see it as early as the third century AD and it also occurs in the sixth-century in the Petra papyri: *The Mother of All Colonies* ….Petra Papyri also revealed another term used for the city of Petra: A unique term; not used in the Roman Empire. And it means: Blessed or Noble. Getting an exact meaning of this word is difficult, as around this time the meaning of the word was changing. It originally meant noble, or even blessed but at this time, the Christian world began to use the term meaning ‘holy.’ And so the Petra papyri they use this term and they apply it to churches, and other big buildings even tombs and civic buildings. They are called noble. Hence, the exact meaning of this word at this time remains uncertain. Neither ‘holy’ nor ‘noble’ nor ‘blessed’ would apply to a city. It’s a strange name, but that’s the name that Petra had, a very unique name and the People of Petra were very proud of their name, the Holy and the Blessed or the Noble city.”
On the same site, in a video transcript of _Q&A #22 Petra Earthquakes_ , Dan Gibson says, “[F]or years, it was assumed that Petra fell into ruins in the 3rd or 4th centuries and that it was not functioning during the time of Muhammad and the founding years of Islam….But all of this changed in 1993. The discovery of the Petra Scrolls changed our view of Petra during the 5th and 6th centuries AD. In 1993, Hamoudi al-Bedoul, a local Bedouin, discovered the first remains of carbonized papyrus scrolls while excavating at a Byzantine Church in Petra….These scrolls were written down during the time that the prophet Muhammad was a young man. That is what makes them so important to our study of the Qiblas. Here we have a very narrow window back into time, to the exact place that the archaeological records indicate was where the prophet Muhammad lived as a young man. But this is an extremely narrow window. It is all about one family. It is a Christian family, and these legal documents that were found in the Christian quarter of Petra, in the back room of a church. We must not expect them to throw light onto the pagan side of the city or the greater picture of what is going on….After every earthquake of 551 CE, 19 years before Muhammad was born, people dug themselves out of the ruins and rebuilt their homes. Any destruction from the 551 AD earthquake was mostly cleaned up, just as the city recovered from the earthquake of 363 AD. So when the Petra Scrolls were written, there was a thriving city, and people were active in the area all around Petra….in 713 94 AH another great earthquake hit Petra, and indeed the entire Mediterranean seacoast was affected. Even the mosque in Jericho was destroyed, so much so that it was never rebuilt. Petra was never rebuilt after this and it passed from history. After this massive earthquake, the Umayyad buildings in Amman needed to be rebuilt. Al-Ṭabarī notes that this massive earthquake affected much of Syria as well, so it seems Mu’awiyah did not manage to escape the affect of earthquakes….”
Dan reports another earthquake 34 years later (746 CE, 128 AH) that destroyed cities in Syria and Jordan. I wonder if these quakes contributed to local anticipations of imminent “end time”.
actualy Petra "vanished" aorund 600 ad, probably abandoned for economic reason.
It had 2 churches and collosseum and was the regional Capitol for Arabia Petrea, but likely lost importance as a trading Hub and then was damaged by earthquakes.
Archeologists found the People made hasty repairs, but youngest coins and documents are around 604.
Also Petra is almost not mentioned in roman/ byzanthine ReEports from this time which indicates that there ws no more interest and trading and culture had moved to other cities.
@@slippingsnake Thank you for joining in and for the information.
Dan mentions (in the above transcript) that many of the forts that formed the Roman-Byzantine ‘security belt’ east of Petra were abandoned during the 5th and 6th centuries, “Most likely because any military threat was coming from Persia, not the Arabian desert”; also that “The Byzantines ruled from a great distance. The area around Petra and north was controlled by Christian tribes who were client rulers for the Byzantines, but the Byzantine army was not in Petra. In fact, there is no evidence of any army barracks in Petra. This really was the backside of the Byzantine Empire, on the edge of the desert.” He described Petra around this time as “mostly a provincial capital, reliant on local agriculture and trade.”
They also translate it, in their speech, as "zaman jahillyah" like "in the era or time period of ignorance".
Because they've always prefixed it like that, I've always thought of it like that...
the era before islam.
Petra had an official Roman designation as Mother of Cities.
@fantasia55 .....................
God Allah SWT had an official designation for Mecca as the Mother of Cities. Roman is nothing compared to God. So, why believed in Roman than God? Is the Roman your god? -09-12-24
Awesome....
Loving this series, my only complaint is that it is a rather quiet, even with the volume turned right up.
Most excellent 🎉as always! Glory to God!!!
@AdamMohammed-u2u Yahweh God
@@sifu9683 ..........................
Who invented the name Yahweh? -09-12-24
@@defenderoftruth3212 Who WROTE the torah? -09-05-24
wonderful !
Murad needs to send his translation to Sentinel apologetics to add to his collection for his read through
@PFanderFilms: Pls help raise the volume in the next recordings. Thanks. AlhamduloiJESUS
it's going to really exciting to find out WHAT the koran actually is, when the false S.I.N. is stripped off of it!
God bless you all!
Historians have established that there was no more polytheism in Arabia in the 7th century as most Arabs, especially in cities, had been christianized.
Therefore the "mushrikuns" so often cited in the quran, often translated as "polytheists" or "associators" or "idolaters" refer in fact to christians who believe in trinity (meaning that they give "associates" to God, which is considered in islam to be the worse sin called "shirk") ... and not at all to so-called "pagans" or "idolaters" from Mecca (which did not even exist in the 7th century).
Trinity is not used in the Qur'an. It gives analogies to tritheism.
In surah 53:19-23, Mohammad talked to the pagans of Mecca who worshiped the goddesses Allat, Manat, and Al-Uzza.
You're saying the Quran is wrong, that Allah is a liar.
@@Ks872-h8j
I am not speaking about beliefs ... I am speaking about historical facts
@@jeangatti9384 Edit: I assumed you were Muslim based on your original post. It reeks of Islamic propaganda.
In any case, uniquely Arabian paganism was absolutely practiced in the 7th century. We know about their gods and goddesses, beliefs, rituals/practices, places of worship, etc. I would be happy to compile my sources and post them after you provide scholarly sources supporting your claims.
@@Ks872-h8j
historical research proves that the city of Mecca could not have existed as a large commercial caravan city in the years 600 AD
Main reasons for this fact are:
1) Mecca is not an oasis, so there is no surface water (only a well, known as zamzam which is clearly unsufficient and inappropriate for watering many caravan camels)
2) Mecca is not shown on any map at that time or even previously
3) Mecca is located down of Hidjaz plateau and could therefore not be located on the caravan route which is located more than 1000 m above on the plateau (eg the city of Taeef is located at an altitude of ca 2000 m while Mecca is at 300 m)
4) there were no archeological remains or artefacts (coins, potteries, ruins, bones etc) discovered in Mecca dating from before circa year 700
5) no agriculture whatsoever is possible in this wild rocky desert location, how could a large city survive in such hostile environment ?
"we don't have the original Bible" jay is having the audacity to think he can test the Qur'an 😂😂😂😂😂
"Alonzo Harris" believes in three gods.
QURAN IN 🧠🧠OUT
You Muslim stopped your ignorance don’t you not know that you have your own three gods allah, quan and spirit before I add Muhammad as a number fourth god. Can you be Muslim without believing in Muhammad?
@garybowings1538
@@YenYen-xd6xo muslims don't believe in spirits apparently but they do believe pedomo is god. Let's not forget al-lat al-uzza and manat 😂🤣
15 Christians are murdered every day by Muslims in the name of Allah
12 Christians are imprisoned everyday by Muslims because of blasphemy allegations
Since it's a series, maybe you shouldn't explain the meaning of sin every episode? Just a little suggestion, love the series and the work of Murad.
I guess the time is near for Muhammed second prediction to come through, sahih muslim 147
That can't happen too soon to suit me.
@@mysotiras21 You're not alone
So Muslims are right, when they say, that the Quran translations are NOT the Quran, but only the approximated meaning of it?
What they don't admit is that the Muslim translators deliberately LIE about what the original Arabic says.
“Times of ignorance” see Acts 17:30…
So Islam plagiarized this line from the Bible, as it plagiarized so much else?
@@mysotiras21 could be…. It was the phrase I thought of after I heard the video…
Kawikaan 28:9. May Awa ang Diyos. Pagbabalik. Marcelito Pomoy. Isaias 53:6!!!. Psalms 144:9. Hebreo 4:12 (
I used Google search to research islam I look up what's the oldest piece of islam history and see nothing before Momo,is there evidence Momo claims to be a prophet when he was alive and their is nothing before momo and in ten minutes I destroyed the cult then I look up ancient Christian history and Jesus Christ and I can say Jesus Christ is king
Jesus never lived
@@charananekibalijaun8837 I bet you did not research anything and that's the problem with people like you theirs 5000 years of Christian and Jesus Christ history in the bible and you don't won't to see the truth you believe islam is real but theirs no evidence at all proving Muhammad claims to be a prophet when he was alive and you believe in it 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@charananekibalijaun8837 You have to live before you can die!! After the death [and resurrection] of Jesus it is now 2024.! The world knows that He lived. You can chose to ignore that at your own peril.
@@richardpetker4337 as expected, not a single substantial argument based on facts. Sorry to break it to you
@@charananekibalijaun8837prove the soueces claiming otherwise are wrong
There is an entire historical lack of linguistics that specializes in Arabic. By now western scholars would have taken all the oldest manuscripts (i.e. Sanaa, Topkapi etc.) and isolated the controversial textual disputes that translators would later need to refer to when making their translations.
Obviously no Muslim would do this because Islam forbids that kind of innovation. After all why bother if it is already perfect and to say otherwise is a life and death sin.
In a way you can't entirely blame average Imams and Sheiks for getting things wrong. It would be dudes who are at Yasir Quadi's intellectual level that THINK they are doing God's will by NOT THINKING.
That is sadly🤣🤣🤣
Refuting the claim that the Quran has remained unchanged since its revelation.
1. **Early Manuscript Variants**:
- Early Quranic manuscripts, such as the Sana'a manuscripts discovered in Yemen, show variations in text compared to the standardized Uthmanic version. These manuscripts date back to the 7th and 8th centuries and include textual variations, suggesting that the Quran's text was not entirely uniform initially.
2. **Codification by Caliph Uthman**:
- Caliph Uthman ibn Affan, the third caliph, is known for commissioning a standardized version of the Quran around 650 CE. He ordered the burning of other Quranic manuscripts that differed from this standardized text. This action indicates there were multiple versions of the Quran in circulation before his standardization effort.
3. **Hadith Reports**:
- Several Hadiths (sayings of Prophet Muhammad and his companions) indicate that there were differences in the recitation and text of the Quran among Muhammad's companions. For instance, the Hadith in Sahih Bukhari mentions that companions like Abdullah ibn Mas'ud had differences in their Quranic texts compared to the Uthmanic codex.
4. **Scholarly Research**:
- Academic research by scholars like Dr. Gerd R. Puin and Dr. Patricia Crone has highlighted the existence of textual variants and changes in early Quranic manuscripts. Their work indicates that the Quranic text evolved over time and was subject to editorial processes.
5. **Orthographic and Dialectical Variations**:
- The Quran was revealed in a dialect of Arabic that was not uniformly understood by all Arab tribes. Early Muslims recited and wrote the Quran in their local dialects, leading to variations in pronunciation and orthography. The standardization by Uthman aimed to unify these differences, but traces of dialectical variations are still evident in early manuscripts.
Despite all this 99% of Qurans today are exactly the same. Looks preserved to me!
You havent looked hard enough! @hashman4090
@@hashman40901923 we had 30 canonized Quran with over 93,000 differences.. they chose one of the readings of one of the Qirat as a standard.. we now have proof there were 6 or 7 variants over the next few years as it was standardized for school in Cairo and then Someone Standardized it as The Quran in 1984.. 3% still use the Warsh which is ascribed as being from Mecca, while the rest use one from what near Bagdad or something….. preserved LOL
وَٱلَّذِينَ ءَامَنُوا۟ وَعَمِلُوا۟ ٱلصَّـٰلِحَـٰتِ وَءَامَنُوا۟ بِمَا نُزِّلَ عَلَىٰ مُحَمَّدٍۢ وَهُوَ ٱلْحَقُّ مِن رَّبِّهِمْ ۙ كَفَّرَ عَنْهُمْ سَيِّـَٔاتِهِمْ وَأَصْلَحَ بَالَهُمْ ٢
Dr Jay Mecca is there once in the quran 48:24 al fath ..... Can you dive in that a little bit ..... All you tell about mecca is true but there is one mention ..... Kindly dwelve into it please i wanna know your thoughts on that term
@harshmanhv In which quran there are 26 qurans and 93000 errors / differences. He does address your question in his lecture on The Origins of Islam here on YT
@@ThePixey1000 yeah he does thanks I saw it a few mins ago
Dr Jay did mention in his video ... emergence of Islam , lecture in america.
@@ThePixey1000Hatun Tash , who worked with Dr Jay researched all the 26 Qurans that she found, and she camevip with the 93,000 variants.
@@murielpucoe9213 ......................
What did she count? The footnotes on the page-side? It took Bart Ehrman for a long time to list the discrepancies in just the 4 make-believe gospels. He had to adopt a parallel system of listing by putting the Mark's gospel against Matthew's, against Luke's, against John's. What kind of system had Hatun Tash's adopted to discover as much as 93k variants so fast? We are speaking of 26 Qur'ans. -07-30-24
indeed the abdools do!
Hi Dr. Jay, I just want to know your commentary regarding the siege of Jerusalemr by the Muslims/ Rashidun Army on the year 636 as per the History. Is these True that it happened?
Wait, what!? muhammad is not in the quran!?
There’s a full Chapter in the Quran titled , Muhammad.. don’t believe everything you hear . That’s like saying Jesus is not mentioned in the Bible . Ridiculous isn’t it ?
@@Foozool When did the chapters get titles? Do you find it weird that the Muhammad chapter barely mentions Muhammad? Jesus _saturates_ the gospels, Muhammad does not remotely saturate the Quran, so you can't draw a parallel of ridiculousness
@@muskyoxes
His name is in the first sentence of the chapter. Are you blind or on drugs ?
@@Foozool Yeah, you are right, the quran is ridiculous.
@@muskyoxes the bible ? Which one ? There are more than 300 different versions . And the first bible was written three centuries after Jesus . It was written by people who said the earth was flat …
Don’t get me started on the bible . It will embarrass you
If Mohammed existed, he was a false profit. The Koran says that Jesus was an important prophet. But Jesus taught peace and forgiveness. Not one steady suggest that anyone should be killed for reason. he said, forgive your enemies. Let him who is without sin cast the first stone. And he warned that there would be false prophets. But Muhammad’s teaching is about killing nonbelievers, contrary to the prophet Jesus, therefore Muhammad was a false prophet..
@charlesrobinson9881 ......................
Your definition of 'false prophet' is too poor and senseless. -07-30-24
He was a false prophet according to the book he made himself. Qs 16:99-100 says that satan has no authority over the believers. Satan's power only works on people who are friends and associates with satan. We know that mhmad was under the influence of black magic for some time (Sahih al-Bukhari 5763; Sahih Muslim 2189a) which means satanic forces were working on him. We also know that satan succeeded in making mhmad recite the satanic verses (Qs 53:19-21).
I S L A M - Incomprehensible Story Line Abashed Massively
@geo3219 ...........................
You'll surely know the real meaning of Islam when you're already facing trial in the Hereafter. -09-12-24
I look forward to that DAY when it will be written on stone that this Deen is a JudeoChristian HERESY probably a sub-sect of the Sadducees😅( Sad U Cee) God bless you brethren & keep up the good work..Ameen.
How about using 'non arabic' or ' non islamic ' instead of ' western '
Mother of cities would be Damascus.
My post, Jahiliyyah
The word Jahiliyyah occurs some four times in quran.
S 3:154 Then he sent down upon you after the grief security--drowsiness covering a band of you and a band whose souls distressed them, thinking of Allah other than the truth. The thought of the Jahiliyyah, saying: Do we have anything from the affair? Say: The affair, all of it, is Lah’s. They hide in themselves what they do not reveal to you. They say: If we had something from the affair we would not have been killed here. Say: Had you been in your houses those whom killing was written upon would have gone out to their beds. And that Allah might test what is in your chests and that he might purge what is in your hearts. And Allah is learned in that in the chests.
S 5:50 So is it the judgment of the Jahiliyyah they seek? And who is better than Allah in judgment for people who are certain?
S 33:33 And stay in your houses and do not dress up as the dressing up of the first jahiliyyah. And perform salat and give the zakat and obey Allah and his messenger. Allah only wants to remove rijs from you, household, and to purify you with purification.
Allah the Filthy Monkey
The first Jahiliyyah?
S 48:26 When he had put zeal in the hearts of those who had disbelieved, the zeal of the Jahiliyyah. Then Allah sent down his shekhinah upon his messenger and upon the believers and compelled them to the word of taqwa and they had more right to it and were more deserving of it. And Allah was learned in everything.
The Shekhinah in the Quran
Definitions:
Relative noun (nisba) composed of جَاهِل (jāhil, “ignorant”) + ـِيَّة (-iyya).
Noun[edit]
جَاهِلِيَّة • (jāhiliyya) f
(rare, uncountable) the state of ignorance synonym, antonym ▲quotations ▲
Synonym: جَهْل (jahl)
Antonym: عَالِمِيَّة (ʕālimiyya)
(Can we date this quote?), الإيجي, كتاب المواقف:
[…] لو أوجب الحكم للكل كما ذهبتم إليه لزم كون الكل عالما جاهلا معا إذا قام العلم بجزء منه وقام الجهل بآخر لا يقال هذا أي قيام العلم بجزء مع قيام الجهل بجزء آخر تقدير محال لتضادهما أي لتضاد العلم والجهل باعتبار تضاد حكميهما أعني العالمية والجاهلية فإذا قام العلم بجزء لم يجز قيام الجهل بجزء آخر وإلا كان الكل عالما وجاهلا معا […]
(please add an English translation of this quotation)
(derogatory) (with ال (al-, “the”)) pre-Islamic Arabia (conceived as an era of moral and religious ignorance) جاهلية - Wiktionary, the free dictionary
As Abraham and Ishmael were supposedly in Arabia before the founder of Islam's birth, were all Arabs ignorant of Islam? If the former, 'prophets', were Muslims, presuming that they preached, wasn't there Islam in Arabia? What about the rest of the world? Was there a knowledge of Islam everywhere but in Arabia, considering Musa, Isa, etc., supposedly Muslims?
Islam Passages
could Mother-of-Settlements have been 'Petra' ...
No Muslim is here trying to tell the Arab speaker he’s wrong 😑
Top job boys,, 👍👍
The Baca valley, the C is pronounced like the K in arabic. Baca is a jewish word.
Abduls believe in three qurans
Times ten.
Today there are 37 different Arabic Qur'ans.
@@mysotiras21 I bet in a few years there will be 50 qurans discovered.
@@sheikhboyardee556 .........................
That is if Murad will make several translations. -09-13-24
Great statement! But add 27 more.
Is this copy avilable hard coppy ?
Book format or
@urbandsouza7279 Dr Jay Smith as wrote several books
Poor sam shannon trying hard to fool himself
I always thought Mecca was really where what we call Petra is today. Sure I read that somewhere. Can't think of where.
Well Jay Smith has talked about it, and Dan Gibson have made a documentary about it.
@Sabatonrex is that doc on TH-cam? Would like to see that. The Nabutean theory is just a total load of made up nonsense. I can't believe that stuff passes for science.
7 reasons why "pre-Islam" fits PETRA, not Mecca! Dr Jay Smith YT
The Qiblas showed Petra till the 8th century.
@@murielpucoe9213 ..................
Why did Dan Gibson stop the pointing of his measurement at Petra? What is his purpose in mind? Why not before Petra? Or beyond Petra? -07-30-24
AlhamduliJESUS
For "Muhammad", there are verses 3:144, 33:40, 47:2, 48:29 and for "Mecca" in verse 48:24.
It’s called Becca which means Rebecca 😂
@@coltonconner782And how did you know that? Just an assumption? An assumption is the weakest source of truth.
@@coltonconner782 ..........................
So Rebecca is a name of a place. Isaac married a place? -09-07-24
@@defenderoftruth3212 no muhammed named the place after Rebecca
@@coltonconner782 .........................
If ever Prophet Muhammad pbuh named a place in honor of someone, he would rather prefer either Hagar or Ishmael than Rebecca which had no connection to him. -09-12-24
Like the historical Jesus.
How much you want to bet now that anyone who has this translation in the future will be jailed because of what it does for english readers.
❤
Bakkah could be mean Barakah? If it describe a valley, famous valley in Israel will be the valley of barakah
Surah Al-Fath - 24 He is the One Who held back their hands from you and your hands from them in the valley of ˹Ḥudaibiyah, near˺ Mecca, after giving you the upper hand over ˹a group of˺ them.1 And Allah is All-Seeing of what you do. by name Muhammad mentioned 5 times in the Quran. by saying O' prophet, how many times I have to count it.
That name was most likely interpolated into the Qur'an much later, when the SIN was taking hold.
@@mysotiras21 .......................
Ask Prophet jESUs pbuh when he comes back if it is true that he prophesied of the coming of another prophet after him by the name of Ahmad. -07-30-24
I found Jesus In Culver City calif. Jesus returns !!!!!! Jesus lopez cut my lawn today. I gave him a fiver. he said 'god bless you ' I said ' do you mean you bless me ' lol
The Quran is invalid because Jesus says in Revelation 22, verses 18 to 19
18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:
19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.
@bvon5630 ....................
Is it Prophet jESUs pbuh speaking, or John speaking in his dream? -07-30-24
What's the earliest reference to the Qur'an outside the quran
From the book "the Qur'an in Its Historical Context:
The earliest reference to the Qur'an is thought to be the Epitaph of Imru' al-Qays, which dates back to 328 CE in Nemara, Syria. Other early references include:
A dedication to Obodas in 'Ayn Abada/En Avdat, Palestine, around the second century CE
A funerary text in Hegra, Saudi Arabia, in 267 CE
A building text in Zebed, Syria, around 512 CE
A graffito in Jabal Usays, Syria, in 529 CE
A building text in Harran, Syria, in 569 CE
A funerary text in Nebo, Jordan, in the mid-sixth century CE
Graffiti in Umm Judhayidh, NW Arabia, around the fourth to fifth century
@@mysotiras21 ........................
Read the book THE QUR'AN DATES BACK TO MUHAMMAD? by Professor Marijn Van Putten, University of Leiden. -07-30-24
Is it Really True that in the Holy Bible Exodus 20:5-6 God Commanded... YOU SHALL NOT WORSHIP THEM FOR I THEE LORD THEE GOD IS A JEALOUS GOD.??? 🙏🙏
Without allah, muhammad died
Stephanie Heights
There is NOT any accounts NOR any riwayats in the SIN, which stating that Muhammad ever performed, any of the 5 daily prayers, either leading as the imaam or following other person as "makmoom", in front of the kaabah, in masjid al haram, in mekah .
Not even during his prolonged stay in Mekah, on route to Arafat during the "Last Hajj" (Haji al Wida')
NONE, ZERO.
@mhd4545 ...........................
It's not only the 5-time a day prayer that Prophet Muhammad pbuh. He even performed the 'optional' prayers. He spent hours in praying 'optional' prayers. -09-07-24
@@defenderoftruth3212
In front of kaabah, in masjid al haram, in makkah ?
Are you sure
Any reference , please
@@mhd4545 .......................
Common sense will tell you that after Prophet Muhammad pbuh made the Night Journey to the 7th Heaven and returned at dawn in the same place where he took off which is Mecca, he brought with him the 5-time-a-day-daily-prayer. And from then on, he and his followers performed the 'prayer' religiously. So, where do you think they were performing their prayer? They went outside of Mecca just to perform the 'prayer'? Think aloud, man. -09-12-24
@@defenderoftruth3212
What are you talking about ?
Didnt you know when was the night journey ?
Didnt you know where was the initial “qiblat” , for prayers ?
Didnt you know when was the qiblat changed to be Makkah ?
Didnt you know kaabah was a “filthy” place with hundred of idols, until Muhammad saw conquered Makkah (Fath ul Makkah), 8 years after Hijrah
If you have the reference, I am looking for , ie for the event during the last hajj (Hajj of Wida)
Your common sense is “too emotional”
@@mhd4545 ..............................
I don't know what are you talking about. As far as I know the 5-time-a-day-daily-prayer was the main reason why Allah SWT called Prophet Muhammad pbuh to go to the 7th Heaven. I don't know if you have heard about the first offered number of prayer is 50 times a day as what had been commanded to Moses. But when Moses knew of that number, he told Prophet Muhammad pbuh to beg for a small number because his people failed to accomplish it. Prophet Muhammad pbuh went back and forth until the number was lessened to only 5. Still Moses insisted to let the Prophet to ask to lower it down, but the Prophet declined since he already ashamed. And so the number remained at 5 but its equivalent is 50. And this is the number that he brought down and taught to his followers.
You are correct that the first Qiblah was not Ka'aba. It was the Masjid Al Aqsa. But later it was changed to Ka'aba. And it remained in Ka'aba until now. Ka'aba may have been a 'filthy' place because of the idols. But I'm not sure of it. As far as I know the idols had been already destroyed by Abraham which caused the pagan Arabs to burn him. But by the miracle of Allah SWT, the fire became as cold as ice to Abraham. Hence, he was not burn. So, if there were still idols at Ka'aba during the time of Prophet Muhammad pbuh, it means that the pagan Arabs put anew there.
But we are talking about your allegation that Prophet Muhammad pbuh did not perform a 5-time daily prayer. And my stand is that it is only the 5-time daily prayer that he performed, he also performed optional prayers. As a matter of fact, he spent much of his time in optional prayers after performing the obligatory prayers. -09-13-24
When christian can't find trinity and the create them.
قد يهديكم الله الوثني 🐷 إلى الجحيم. سبحان الله الوثني🐷
We have proof of the trinity even in the Old Testament the Jews just like the Muslims can cry as much as you want but we have the proof
@@coltonconner782 ...............................
The Old Testament is the Jewish Tanakh which was being plagiarized word for word by the Bible writers. The Tanakh preaches the worship pf only one God. So, how could there be Trinity in the OT? -09-12-24
People wake up this Murad is conman . One time plays the role of Muslim apologist debating christian prince and this time he is christian polemist . just check this video by title and compare his english accent is Murad's accent
christian prince vs imam sheikh Dr Rohi from al azhar university
Very simple argument against Muhammad, why no prophets between Malachi and him, a period of about 1200 years, other than supposedly Jesus? The story may have had some slight plausibility if Muhammad had been born in the 7th century BC, during or shortly after Malachi's lifetime, but instead the story is that there was Malachi then nothing for about 6 centuries and then Jesus appeared and then the same thing happened again, another 6 centuries passed and then Muhammad appeared.
Firstly, why even put Jesus in there, why not just skip directly from Malachi to Muhammad? What prophecies did Jesus make that had any affect on anything? Secondly, what would the logic be in skipping several centuries between the 3 supposed prophets? Thirdly, what did Muhammad prophecy that had any affect on anything?
So we're supposed to believe that YHWH skipped several centuries with no prophets at all, then a completely pointless prophet appeared to deliver no prophecies other than the temple predictably being destroyed, then waited several more centuries and then used another prophet to deliver nothing of any consequence, just "just want to confirm that the Torah is true but it forgot to mention a bunch of times that Allah has no offspring deities, so I made a whole new book to say that about 1000 times just in case anybody has a crazy idea that I have 3 daughters and possibly a son".
@OttoNomicus .......................
What is your point? -07-30-24
When there is no proof of Jesus existence after 2000 year. What a shame.
But Jesus is mentioned in your Koran numerous times?
Jesus is lord
First comment
Our beloved prophet Muhammad (sallallahu sallam) has a whole chapter on his name ❤
Surah Muhammad is the 47 Surah in Quran Kareem with 38 ayat
Qur'an 33:40
Muhammad is not the father of [any] one of your men, but [he is] the Messenger of Allah and last of the prophets. And ever is Allah , of all things, Knowing.
Mecca
Mecca or Makkah mentioned 10 times.
Qur'an 48:24
He is the One Who held back their hands from you and your hands from them in the valley of ˹Ḥudaibiyah, near˺ Mecca, after giving you the upper hand over ˹a group of˺ them. And Allah is All-Seeing of what you do.
Qur'an Medina mentioned 5 times.
Qur'an 9:101
And among those around you of the bedouins are hypocrites, and [also] from the people of Madinah. They have become accustomed to hypocrisy. You, [O Muhammad], do not know them, [but] We know them. We will punish them twice [in this world]; then they will be returned to a great punishment.
Qur'an has as well the words.
Chapter Mary not even the Bible has .
Muslims, Islam ,Quran, Injil, Torah, Trinity, Jews ,Christians,.
The word Bible is not in your Bible.
The word trinity is not in your Bible.
You don't deal with the content of the video.
@@Yeoman530 the question is Muslims can't find Muhammad or Mecca in Quran?
@@Yeoman530 do you jesus his real name?
@ismaelmahmud6094 no, the statement is when Muslims do not find Mecca or momo in Koran they insert it. It doesn't say momo is not in Koran.
@@ismaelmahmud6094 The Bible is not the topic of the video.
🤔 does is not put islam in a dilemma when you have translators writting what they se fit, and have over 30 different Qurans in use. And then they try to tell us that our sricptures have been corrupted 🤷♂️ i would have thought they stopped and read what they were writting when they came to Surat Al-Baqarah 2:79 😂😂😂
@ObiwanDKchannel ....................
What do you understand by Surah 2:79?
Q. 2:79. So woe to those who write the "scripture" with their own hands, then say, "This is from Allah," in order to exchange it for a small price. Woe to them for what their hands have written and woe to them for what they earn. -09-13-24
Wilson George Lee Richard Thomas Mark
Anyone have any writings or books regarding Jerusalem/Nabatea/Petra in the 5th and 6th century. I feel we are getting closer to the proto Islamic/Gnostif belief that influenced Abbasid Islam and Abdul Malik.
Just orsome you guys
we can find them both. so we cool you guys cannot find Jesus claiming to be god in bible or demanding followers eat his flesh drink his blood
SIN should be changed to mean standard islamic nonesense
@hambam7533 ...............................
Is there really such thing as Standard Islamic Narrative? -09-12-24
How is Becca same as Mecca. Why all these lies???
@graceland .........................
Have you not read in your Bible that the name of the place before is different from the name today? -09-12-24
@@defenderoftruth3212 Show where the bible says that the name of Mecca was Becca before it was changed.
@@graceland395 .....................
I'm not referring to Becca or Mecca. But there are places mentioned in the Bible which are already different from today. So, I'll throw back your question to you, "Why all these lies???" -09-13-24
@@defenderoftruth3212 The bible is holy book. In most cases, you will the name of the place was so and so before it became so and so. Do you have such in your Qur'an?
@@graceland395 .....................
Bible, holy book? A book that is written only by several persons, and you call it a holy book? -09-14-24
Jay Smith sir, can I have your e-mail please. I want to show you my research about Muhammad's historicity.
@TonyRakib Dr Jay Smith as studied Islam for over 45yrs He put out a book on Mohammed and several others on Islam.
@@ThePixey1000 I know but I have something to show. He is missing some very important documents. I wish I could contact him 😅
@@TonyRakib Give us all the link.
I doubt you can show Jay anything about the non-historicity of Muhammad that he doesn't already know.
@@mysotiras21 ..................................
It looks like that Jay Smith knows Prophet Muhammad pbuh more than Prophet jESUs pbuh. -09-14-24
This is a series. Just put a link to the first video instead of constantly repeating backstory
Still muallaf flood in western countries ❤❤❤❤
NOPE. Very FEW converts to Islam in the West, but MILLIONS of Muslims now converting to Christianity, all over the world.
Was there a Quran in the 7th Century?
No one knows the answer to that. The earliest reasonably complete Qur'an is the Sanaa material, which dates to 700-705 AD.
@mysotiras21 is the Samaa Quran the one being referred to in this video?
@@phillipbradshaw ...........................
Read the book THE QUR'AN DATES BACK TO MUHAMMAD? by Professor Marijn Van Putten, University of Leiden. -07-30-24
There’s a koran that was made in 1924 and later cannoned in 1984 Hafs
@@phillipbradshaw , not specifically.
surah MUHAMMAD - IN Quran -47th chapter (surah) of the Quran with 38 verses (ayat).YOU ARE A LIAR LIAR LIAR. SHAME ON YOU.
Thousands of miles too far north - thousands of years too late _ rinse and repeat for islam..
ما تقوله موجود ونعرفه مسبقا. ويرجى عدم تطبيق معايير المسيحيه على الاسلام حتى يكون لكلامكم معنى وهل تعتقد باني ساترك الاسلام لديانه تشرع و تحلل لنتنياهو واليهود جرائمهم
Do you know that 70% of the Quran is plagiarized from other sources
The poetry in the Quran (30%) is from 4th 5th and 6th century Christian hymns discovered by German Professor Gunther Lulling
Do you know Mecca could not of existed before the 5th Century
No artifact has been found in Saudi Arabia dated before the 8th Century which lines up with the first mention in history of Mecca by the Byzantine Romans in 741 AD
Conclusion Islam definitely and completely false
Islam is the crime against humanity
15 Christians are murdered every day by Muslims in the name of Allah
Islam is the crime
What about the crimes of muslims against all the Christian prosecution in Africa, Middle east, South East Asia? What about the crimes killing apostasy? what about the crimes of Turkey against Millions of Armenians? Can you answer me please?
You'll all look silly if it turns out there are 7 gods.
73 Gods!
@@Paul-zf8ob or 473!
Stone-kissers look ridiculous, claiming to be monotheists while worshipping four pagan gods (Allah, Muhammad, the Qur'an, and the Black Stone).
@@mysotiras21 .......................
You are now making yourself ridiculous. Just to evade from reality that you are worshipping three gods - Father, Jesus and Holy Spirit, you are making diversion to accuse Muslims of worshipping four gods inspite of the fact that you know that the God of Muslims is only Allah SWT. Just face the reality. But if you are not anymore comfortable with the reality of your religion, then think of another option. It's not yet late. -07-30-24
@@defenderoftruth3212 , LOL!!! ALL the EXPERTS on religion AGREE that Christianity is monotheistic. Only braindead stone-kissers think that the Trinity is 3 separate Gods smooshed together.
I suggest you worry about PAGAN Islam instead. It has FOUR HEATHEN gods. Hint: REAL monotheists do NOT kiss stones to expiate their sins.
Mecca and Mohammad are referenced in Quran. Unlike the Gospels who talk only about Jesus, Quran is meant for humanity, so there is not much about Mecca or Mohammad about it. Jesus is a cult figure .
LOL!!! Muhammad NEVER EXISTED. ZERO 7th century historical evidence for him. Mecca did NOT exist in the 7th century. All of Islam is a HOAX, crated in the 8th-11th centuries. Try and keep up.
Weird thing to say about someone you consider a prophet…
@@Passer__ .......................
Prophet jESUs pbuh is a prophet. But he became a cult figure because he is being worshipped. -07-30-24
@@Passer__ , not weird in the wonky world of Islam. Look how the Islamic sources portray Muhammad, who is supposedly the best of men and a role model for humanity. Those sources paint Momo as a murderer, enslaver, rapist, p-dophile, practitioner of sexual slavery, warmonger, caravan robber, wife-beater, adulterer, satyromaniac, oath-breaker, liar, etc.
@@defenderoftruth3212 , Jesus is God Incarnate. Your FAIRYTALE Isa was a "prophet" of Satan/Allah. Fortunately Isa is NOT Jesus Christ.
This JS dude has been creating falacy stories for over 10years with no real impact , how many know You dude .
@mnoorbhai his work may not have much effect on most people but many of the well known scholars and academics on this subject seem to be shifting in their views now. They acknowledge that rather than just a pagan milieu as the SIN seems indicate the region of Hijaz was probably more mixed and firmly monotheistic possibly a mix of Jewish and Christian, Zoroastrian, Manichaeans etc
@@elizabethsorenson8942 Dude , never debates Islamic scholars but goes on regurgating his created falacies with stooges , the acid test is if his work was true , real Islamic scholars , theology and history professors, etc. would not dispute and start taking this guy,s SIN the issue seriously , ...thousands have studied and confirm that the Islamic narratives we have today are considered a fairly true representation of the practices , same with biblical narratives which have clearly been shown to have been corrupted manipulated, etc over time to a larger extent .what this dude is trying to do is show that the Quran is not reliable but the acid test here is which of the two is more reliable , nearly all agree that the Quran comes as the more authentic reliable uncorrupted and so the argument ends ..but this dude continues to create his falacy stories with his stooges .
@@elizabethsorenson8942 What mix you make in the end you see the mix to be Islam .
@@mnoorbhai yes that is your view and I still disagree with you respectfully . It is not the final cult and never will be. People change, the world changes and so do the cults as is evident at the present time
@@elizabethsorenson8942 If yiu claim Islam is a cult than it is a better cult as it is the youngest ism and had grown the fastest to overtake all isms , that's the scit test of truth .and shows no sign of abating
As great a man Jesus is, he still is a man.
The one God is not a man.
Claiming Jesus is a god is just one of many false made up gods.
The evidence says otherwise
If you believe in Human Rights (a concept derived from Judeo Christian Values and Beliefs) then you cannot believe in Islam
You cannot find or get Human Rights from Islam
70% of the Quran is plagiarized from other sources
The poetry in the Quran (30%) was plagiarized from 4th 5th and 6th century Christian hymns discovered by German Professor Gunther Lulling
Arian heretic.
A time will come when we will know about God and who is right for I will go with the teachings of Jesus and his apostles as it’s a message of love and kindness no rape and murder
The earlier idols (false deities) were statues erected of pious people of previous generations.
These people were later wrongly prayed to and taken as deities.
These type of misguided beliefs of taking humans as deities or gods exist in pagan and polytheist religions, past and present.
A human taking another human as a deity or God is falsehood.
It makes absolutely no sense for a human to pray to (worship) another human.
Deity Incarnation where a human is believed to be a deity or God coming down in this world as a human is among the misguided claims in pagan and polytheist religions, past and present.
Claiming a human is God manifest as a human is among the misguided claims in pagan and polytheist religions.
Claiming a spirit in a human is a deity or God is among the misguided claims in pagan and polytheist religions.
Claiming God having sons or daughters is among the misguides claims in pagan and polytheists religions.
All that I mentioned about idolatry, pagan and polytheist religions you can look it up online including from their own sources.
The misguided belief of taking Jesus as a deity or God is against what Jesus himself believe and taught. It is against what all the guided prophets that include Noah, Abraham and Moses believed and taught. It is against the foremost of the religion which is the first and foremost commandment.
Abraham did not pray to Jesus which is a man's name.
Abraham did not pray to three persons.
God is not a human
God created humans
As great a human Jesus is,
he still is human.
These two guys believe in three gods.🥴
Deflect and lie being a Muslim.
These two brave men are DESTROYING Islam. Hallelujah!
Allah had a wife and 3 daughters Moon and 3 Stars
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