I always enjoy the satisfaction of seeing a worthy conventional locomotive returned to service. And, as usual, it’s a pretty inexpensive and simple fix!😊
I have a couple of those seaboard engines in my closet.They use to run by my grandparents house daily .They lived on seaboard street back in the 1960's when seaboard ran with those colors.My grand father said they ran on straight tracks all the way from hamlet to Wilmington.In north carolina.
Good repair video. You have to watch those cotton que-tips around the gears and be careful when pulling the armature. Some models have washers or even a ball bearing at the bottom that the armature shaft rides on. If those get lost you might have the dreaded lash problem. One thing I noticed was that your model does not seem to have the slot in the brushes. If so, that surprised me. Of course, the mechanical e-units tend to buzz when running which is normal. Consider it to be a sound system.
Thanks. Yeah q-tips can be a problem. I use the less than I used to, they are just so convenient! I have been know to lose a washer or ball bearing, you would think that would make me more cautious, but I never think of it until I yank it apart! Sometimes I’m not too sharp lol. The slot in the brushes, I’d say a third of the time I find brushes like this. The noisy e-unit, early railsounds!
Great fix Dave! And "Well Done!" getting the directional lighting to work. As far as cab lighting is concerned prototypically speaking the cab lights on real diesels are only lit when the engine's stopped or parked. Most models have the cab lights on all the time which would be incorrect but nobody really cares anyway, it looks cool! I did my own bit of resurrection work this morning. I bought a Lionel 2046 at a show this past weekend that needed a little waking up. Straightened a bent crosshead guide, cleaned the motor and lubed all around, man that thing was DRY! Had to lube the whistle tender as well. Everything's working fine now. This ones slated to be turned into an RF&P engine as soon as it gets warm enough for painting in the train shed, even with the heater it's a bit too chilly. You'll see the results when it's finished!
I wonder if I could wire the cab light to only be on in neutral. Hmm. That would be interesting. Nice work on the 2046 and I look forward to see what you do with it.
Great work Dave! Be careful with the seaboard stuff it’s very addicting!😂 I’ve amassed way too much seaboard stuff in the last year it’s not even funny! That sd9 is on my want list
Definitely know that feeling especially growing up on seaboard street back in the 1960's in Lumberton north Carolina. Watch that paint scheme on the engines passing by the house six days aweek.
It's always a great experience to see an MPC era loco running again, Dave. You're the genius of wiring. You make it look so simple, and if you know what you're doing, I suppose it is.
Wiring starting from scratch is easier than trying to figure out what somebody else has done. I understand metal gear replacements are aftermarket offered. Honestly I don’t think your ruining the spring pulling it up. The yield point would be much farther than the 1/8” moved up. The connector idea makes for easy shell switching around. Good idea.
Thanks. It’s always easier for me to start from scratch. I don’t mind plastic gears. Don’t know that I’ve ever had one fail me. I’ve never noticed any issue pulling up the spring, but it still makes me nervous!
Practice, patience, editing. I had no idea what to do in the beginning and just started working on simple cheap engines. Made plenty of mistakes, but I’ve done ok
Nice job! Also a beautiful locomotive. I used to love taking apart those "Pullmor" motors and cleaning them up and greasing them. Gave me a sense of satisfaction. The new stuff...not so much!
Well done as usual Dave. I just did a similar diagnostic and repair on my Marx 1095. Just posted the result to my channel. Thanks for the inspirations.
Great video Dave. Love these repair videos. I always get a little anxious opening up an engine. I'll have to review your directional lighting steps again before I try my own.
Worked out nice. I don't know why or how to resolve it but some of these type of motors growl and others run smoother. Some of the MarX engines have the same thing diesel or steam, as wells as the AC motor Lionel's .
Thanks. Some of the noise comes down to gears. Straight cut gears are louder. Besides that maybe it’s a matter of service and use. And to a much lesser extent maybe acoustics of any particular engine shell. (That last one is quite a reach though)
I wish! A train store with a large layout, repair service, space to teach classes, hold events, a small coffee shop in the corner. Oh I should play the lottery
I'm not a fan of plastic gears myself, especially if they mate up with metal gears. Sooner or later that metal gear's going to wear down the plastic one, the plastic being a softer material. Mating gears should always be of analagous materials for maximum life. However if the drive train's lubed properly and no crazy stuff's done with the engine the gears should have a pretty good life span and replacements are available from parts dealers.
Thanks. One of these days I’m going to research the use of plastic. There are benefits to plastic gears. Now poorly made brittle plastic gears are no good, but plastic is just fine for gears. And for other uses. A bunch of cars these days have plastic oil pans, intakes, and transmission pans. It all depends on material quality
They shouldn't be. I checked one of my reference books and MPC Era GP7's and GP9's were produced from 1970 and right into the LTI (Richard Kughn) Era which begins in 1986. I won't break it down into models and years produced that'll be too time consuming but they should be out there, just keep looking. The oddball though is that Seaboard SD9 that Dave picked up, it was produced for one year only, 1980. Talk about a "Right-place, right time!" find! I didn't see any other SD9's in the book produced in the MPC Era.
See Wayne’s comment, I really don’t know. I think they are out there and affordable but I have no idea about numbers. By todays standards they are very basic engines and usually not very heavy, probably overlooked by many
I loved the way how you said " that you never were any good at figuring out what someone else had done " with that rat's nest of former wiring ! :) and then whipped out your snips and had at it. :) Problem solved! 🚋
I always enjoy the satisfaction of seeing a worthy conventional locomotive returned to service. And, as usual, it’s a pretty inexpensive and simple fix!😊
Couldn't agree more! It’s one of my favorite parts of the hobby
I have a couple of those seaboard engines in my closet.They use to run by my grandparents house daily .They lived on seaboard street back in the 1960's when seaboard ran with those colors.My grand father said they ran on straight tracks all the way from hamlet to Wilmington.In north carolina.
Nice, proper toy train, no electronic board, no sound or TMCC easy to repair and fun to run.
The backbone of the hobby!
Good repair video. You have to watch those cotton que-tips around the gears and be careful when pulling the armature. Some models have washers or even a ball bearing at the bottom that the armature shaft rides on. If those get lost you might have the dreaded lash problem. One thing I noticed was that your model does not seem to have the slot in the brushes. If so, that surprised me. Of course, the mechanical e-units tend to buzz when running which is normal. Consider it to be a sound system.
Thanks. Yeah q-tips can be a problem. I use the less than I used to, they are just so convenient!
I have been know to lose a washer or ball bearing, you would think that would make me more cautious, but I never think of it until I yank it apart! Sometimes I’m not too sharp lol. The slot in the brushes, I’d say a third of the time I find brushes like this. The noisy e-unit, early railsounds!
Well done Dave. The engine looks terrific. 👍
Thanks so mych
Great fix Dave! And "Well Done!" getting the directional lighting to work.
As far as cab lighting is concerned prototypically speaking the cab lights on real diesels are only lit when the engine's stopped or parked. Most models have the cab lights on all the time which would be incorrect but nobody really cares anyway, it looks cool!
I did my own bit of resurrection work this morning. I bought a Lionel 2046 at a show this past weekend that needed a little waking up. Straightened a bent crosshead guide, cleaned the motor and lubed all around, man that thing was DRY! Had to lube the whistle tender as well. Everything's working fine now. This ones slated to be turned into an RF&P engine as soon as it gets warm enough for painting in the train shed, even with the heater it's a bit too chilly. You'll see the results when it's finished!
I wonder if I could wire the cab light to only be on in neutral. Hmm. That would be interesting.
Nice work on the 2046 and I look forward to see what you do with it.
Great work Dave! Be careful with the seaboard stuff it’s very addicting!😂 I’ve amassed way too much seaboard stuff in the last year it’s not even funny! That sd9 is on my want list
lol, fortunately or unfortunately I’m addicted to all of it!
Definitely know that feeling especially growing up on seaboard street back in the 1960's in Lumberton north Carolina. Watch that paint scheme on the engines passing by the house six days aweek.
It's always a great experience to see an MPC era loco running again, Dave. You're the genius of wiring. You make it look so simple, and if you know what you're doing, I suppose it is.
Thanks! I do enjoy reviving these engines. It’s easy to look like you know what you are doing when you can edit out the mess ups! Haha
Wiring starting from scratch is easier than trying to figure out what somebody else has done. I understand metal gear replacements are aftermarket offered. Honestly I don’t think your ruining the spring pulling it up. The yield point would be much farther than the 1/8” moved up. The connector idea makes for easy shell switching around. Good idea.
Thanks. It’s always easier for me to start from scratch. I don’t mind plastic gears. Don’t know that I’ve ever had one fail me. I’ve never noticed any issue pulling up the spring, but it still makes me nervous!
Nice repair, I got this engine as part of the Mid-Atlantic limited set I got for Christmas.
Thanks. Very cool!
You make repairs seem so simple…….
Practice, patience, editing. I had no idea what to do in the beginning and just started working on simple cheap engines. Made plenty of mistakes, but I’ve done ok
That's my kind of repair video. Nice job fixing it.
Thanks so much
Well done 👍🏻 thanks for sharing.
Thanks for watching!
Great job and video! Thanks, Dave!
Thank you! Now that it’s working I like it a lot more.
You go Dave!
Thanks
Nice job! Also a beautiful locomotive. I used to love taking apart those "Pullmor" motors and cleaning them up and greasing them. Gave me a sense of satisfaction. The new stuff...not so much!
Thanks! Yeah taking an old dirty pullmor, cleaning and lubing it to get it to run again is a fun task indeed
Well done as usual Dave. I just did a similar diagnostic and repair on my Marx 1095. Just posted the result to my channel. Thanks for the inspirations.
Nice work on that Marx Bruce. Love those old Marx engines.
Nice little fix em up! Thanks for the video Dave! Happy Railroading
Thanks for watching
Love the tear downs.😊
Glad you like em
Like the colour scheme.
It’s a good looking engine
Great fix-it video!
Thank you!
Good tutorial! Thank you
Glad it was helpful!
Glad it was a simple fix!
Me too! It’s always nice when it isn’t complex
Great video Dave. Love these repair videos. I always get a little anxious opening up an engine. I'll have to review your directional lighting steps again before I try my own.
I get a little anxious too! The directional lighting isn’t perfect but it’s a fun little change
Awesome Dave! Great looking loco too! 😊 -Brian
Thanks so much Brian
Nice unit.
It sure is
I like it. Say what you want about MPC. They are very easy to service.
Sure are.
Worked out nice. I don't know why or how to resolve it but some of these type of motors growl and others run smoother. Some of the MarX engines have the same thing diesel or steam, as wells as the AC motor Lionel's .
Thanks. Some of the noise comes down to gears. Straight cut gears are louder. Besides that maybe it’s a matter of service and use. And to a much lesser extent maybe acoustics of any particular engine shell. (That last one is quite a reach though)
It’s interesting how this model actually has 6 wheels trucks and really does look like a SD-9 locomotive
Yeah I don’t know how many engines of the period actually had the 6 wheel trucks
You should start a repair shop nice job 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍😎🚂
I wish! A train store with a large layout, repair service, space to teach classes, hold events, a small coffee shop in the corner. Oh I should play the lottery
Very nice, looks like you’ve got another good runner! Fantastic job on the repair. 👍
Thanks Frank. It’s a good looking piece.
Dave you are not gonna believe what I subscriber just sent me. OMG!!!
@@TwistedMacGyversTrains what did you get??
I posted a photo of the box. I’m going to open it on camera. I know it’s MTH and very heavy!
A good looking and good pulling little loco now. Is there a lockout on the bottom of the frame?
For the e-unit? Yes there is
Damnskippy,Very nice repair video and train set.
Glad you enjoyed it
An sd9 from the mpc era. Sweet!
Classic
Nice save Dave and it’s a good looking, good running engine as well!
Thanks 👍
Good job, and nice engine.
Thank you, it’s pretty decent. I might have to see how many cars it can pull with those six wheel trucks
Great video Dave! I recently got a new Conrail SD35 made by Atlas from 2000. It has TMCC and RailSounds.
Nice. I’ve been looking at some atlas with TMCC but am hesitant to take the chance. How do you like yours?
@@dagryffynhobby I very much like it! It runs good, sounds great, and has lots of detail.
Nice job Dave!
Thank you!
Nice 🚂 😊
Thanks 👍
What are those cars? They look great!
Set of four weaver wood side hoppers and I think the other two are also weaver
Nice job, Dave. Pity they used plastic gears.
I'm not a fan of plastic gears myself, especially if they mate up with metal gears. Sooner or later that metal gear's going to wear down the plastic one, the plastic being a softer material. Mating gears should always be of analagous materials for maximum life. However if the drive train's lubed properly and no crazy stuff's done with the engine the gears should have a pretty good life span and replacements are available from parts dealers.
Thanks. One of these days I’m going to research the use of plastic. There are benefits to plastic gears. Now poorly made brittle plastic gears are no good, but plastic is just fine for gears. And for other uses. A bunch of cars these days have plastic oil pans, intakes, and transmission pans. It all depends on material quality
Professional job as always! Are you gonna make it up to the Amherst show this weekend?
Thank you! Couldn’t make it to Amherst, had a family thing in VA
Yup , excellent video, that thing needs to be run.... a lot to wear in that gear?
Oh I’ll run it! Straight cut gears are loud, but will it quiet down? I have no idea
Man I wish I could fix stuff like that 🤷♂️
You can, it just takes patience and practice. Start with cheap basic stuff and don’t be afraid to get in there. You can do it
I’m still on the hunt for a MPC GP9. Can’t find any. Are they rare?
They shouldn't be. I checked one of my reference books and MPC Era GP7's and GP9's were produced from 1970 and right into the LTI (Richard Kughn) Era which begins in 1986. I won't break it down into models and years produced that'll be too time consuming but they should be out there, just keep looking.
The oddball though is that Seaboard SD9 that Dave picked up, it was produced for one year only, 1980. Talk about a "Right-place, right time!" find! I didn't see any other SD9's in the book produced in the MPC Era.
See Wayne’s comment, I really don’t know. I think they are out there and affordable but I have no idea about numbers. By todays standards they are very basic engines and usually not very heavy, probably overlooked by many
Why does there sound like extra buzzing when running?
The e-unit is loud, vibrating, probably needs to be re staked and tightened up
🚂😎😎😎😎😎👍
I loved the way how you said " that you never were any good at figuring out what someone else had done " with that rat's nest of former wiring ! :) and then whipped out your snips and had at it. :) Problem solved! 🚋
Sometimes you just have to start over!