Please leave your feedback here: forms.office.com/e/j71m9huBa4 0:00 Killing the Future of World of Tanks 1:17 Crew 2.0 2:41 The Good Things 7:22 The Bad Things 13:11 6,000 Damage Per Minute 16:02 10 Fires in 2 minutes 18:05 The E 25 can’t be spotted until 280 m while firing 24:55 The Game is Going to get Faster 27:29 Wargaming Change Intuition Again 30:25 The Deplorable 32:39 9 Skills in the New Normal 36:22 Sweaty nerds with deep pockets are now better than you 37:25 Small crews just got screwed 39:07 3.4 BILLION Exp 42:32 £198,398,251 to afford every skill 43:26 25,748 years to grind a maxed out crew# 44:01 Ignorantly bolting on ill-conceived changes to an archaic system 44:49 Wargaming are killing the future of World of Tanks for new players 48:15 They offer you 12 free resets (lol) 51:25 How to fix it 52:00 Reduce EXP Requirements by 4 53:22 Reset Intuition 53:38 Give us free resets for the rest of 2023 54:29 Allow each crew member to take multiple role skills 55:07 Do the same with BiA, Repairs and Concealment 56:16 The conclusion 57:46 Give WG your feedback
Whaaat!, QB making a critique of WG:D The whales would be calling this utter Blasphemy. As a long term veteran and a person who has paid WG more moneyz than willing to admit,the WG finds new and novel ways of shafting both paying and free playing customers alike...
I went from WOT to WOWS because it was a simpler game and more enjoyable. Roll on and WOWS started this same buggering about with the game and many people left. So I came back to WOT and for two years it’s been fine, but now WOT are doing the same damage to the game as the WOWS developers did, so I’m likely to quit and with no regrets, WOT is becoming corporately toxic.
@@stevebarnett5048 Being PR toxic is the least of the games worries,the toxic player base has been a recurring problem and wgs removal of mechanisms and monumentally slow and cumbersome penalty system has only worsened the problem yet their chat-penalty system and mods work like the spanish inquisition,you can get toxic and truly mental players in the team but you are not allowed vent about it.and the situation has only grown worse since the WG shut down its russian servers leading to what some call the arrival of the ``Euroruskis``. its utterly laughable that WG sells their games as PG 7 and trying to keep offensive language out of the game and same time sell open gambling to kids It´s like the guy with a smoking a cigar patting the kiddos on the head``don´t worry kid i protect your feelies´´ and at the same time´´ey sport wanna make a bet?´´ Best way to hurt WG is to either report them to PEGI or stop playing.
It's more surprising that skill is saying something about it. Because more often than not, skill says that alot of these pay to win mechanics aren't a problem/aren't pay to win. And I watch skill over quickybaby at this point, but one thing I really like about QB is he's so vocal about things that are blatantly ruining the game.
I left the game 6+ years ago but I've kept watching QB regularly. Man, I can't imagine how painful it is for him to watch this happen to his game and have no ability to stop it...
I'm in the same boat. It was already pretty pay to win at that time but now it seems to have gone off the charts. I cannot imagine returning to this, and combine it with tens and tens of new tanks that you would need to learn the weakspots for.
I too inherited my ELC commander from my father who inherited it from his grandfather and so on. It is our family’s prized heirloom, a truly generational grind.
read article about herowars, the mobile game. I started to play recently and just learnt that there are people who spend yearly 40-50k EURs on that game just to be and stay competitive. btw that is also russian origin game and maybe that talked to each other how the playerbase can be better milked... WoT was too generous so far :)
The way I see it, wargaming isn't playing the long term game. They have lost care for the game and want to make as much profit before the game crashes and burns.
I agree with you. Perhaps they already have plans to move to another game and just want to squeeze the lemon dry before just shutting it down... as i see it they will someday just keep the EU server and then watch become wot blitz
The decisions to go out of Russia and Belarus is morally right but they themselve admitted that it will hurt them financially since RU used to be their largest player base. They claim that they don't make any money of Russians and Belarusian customer anymore but people know that they still make some money by licensing the game to vestas studio. And then forget, China. I think this might set the precedents on why we've seen the actions that they taken is clearly will piss off the majority of the player base.
@@m.syamil_KR4PU it all the money they gave to UK raine and LBM they trying to get back, they chose to play politics, instead of staying quite and worry about thier games based on war, the Irony coming from them.. 😂😮
I have been playing this game for about 10 years. This update just breaks my heart. I agree with you QB, and I want to say "thank you" for the amazing content, care for ALL players, and devotion to the game. Two good friends of mine, one coworker and one of my roommates from college, both started WoT within the last 8 months or so. With all of these changes, their interest is fading fast, and it makes me so angry to see WG's BS tactics. Being competitive in the game never phased me much, because it was all about the fun and thrills of what you could do with the vehicles that attracted me. Now that the WoT Plus and Crew 2.0 (definitely the bigger elephant in the room) are going into the game... it will just kill the fun. As it stands now, the game is at least workable, to an extent. However, with Update 1.20.1, I'm beginning to question that more and more. What fun is there in a game when a Badger, a Bourrasque, etc., is beating the daylights out of you, and you can't do anything about it due to the new system?
I am on same boat and I had many people join cause of me, but the game brings simple joys. I hope it doesn’t get too over it’s head and shit on itself.
The problem is you've been playing a bad game and are not able to move on despite so many options out there. I quit the game in 2017 and never been happier, only watch QB for cool plays other wise I am glad not wasting my time to grind tanks and waste money on this bad game.
@@danm3532 since you said that, what other games in your opinion may compete / be compared to WoT? im serious, no sarcasm - im also fed up with those changes and still want to play something about tanks. i touched AW but it sunk quickly, i played WT but it's weird to me, didnt atract me too much. recommendations? :)
I'm hoping that everyone will stop playing the game and that WG will go f**king bankrupt. Corporations like WG should get no better. They do not care for the community (it wasn't always the case but it has been for 10+ years now) and only care about money, money, money. However, it looks like they aren't doing good but they are such idiots that they think that this will revive the game. What a joke. You need to accept the truth - this game will became worse and worse over the time as game creators/developers/whatever are clearly braindead and delusional. Don't feed their illness and stop buying anything in game for real money. That's the only way they gonna learn. I've spent 600+ euroes over last 3 years and I regret it way too much. Not because I spent that money but because it went to WG. They don't deserve a fuc**ng penny.b
Thank You QB for laying it all out for us, you put a lot of work into this and it is appreciated. It is rather a depressing view into the future of the game. For me it feels like that after 10 years of playing WOT it seems that WG want us to just start all over again, and forget the last decade. Yes, I can see a lot of us are going to dust off their old E25's and take them out for a spin. However, the grind that now seems necessary for "ordinary" tanks and crews to be competitive will probably be too much for newer players and they are likely to drift away.
Respect to you qb for not only showing us what the problems are, but also trying to solve them. You guys realize that not a lot of people do that. Other would simply complain and that would be it. Thank you QB
it's not just the time and money, suddenly it will becomes so technical that many will struggle to understand where on the battlefield you have to be and how to set up your tank 100%.
Your analysis is much appreciated. As an IT professional, you are spot on in identifying that WG has NOT done sufficient design work to consider all those crucial items you've painstakingly pointed out... offering suggestions is also excellent work -- you not only identify the problems, but offer constructive solutions. Resetting the base XP starting point and then doubling would certainly be attractive for new players as well as vets -- everyone get's equal benefit. The "multi-role" problem -- elegant simple solution as you pointed out... I hope they are listening. It was unfortunate that the survey form did not allow for free form comments.
Thank you QB. You aren't going to read this but still, thank you. I grew up with wot, this was my first proper video game and I have been watching you since I was a freshman in middle school. This game shaped my life, and I literally grew up watching you :) Now I am 21 in university, I am busy enough as it is for gaming in general. I used to rage hard at weegee for their brain dead decisions. I complained in comments and complained with other wot playing friends. Now I no longer write rants in comments, and my friends no longer play wot. My feeling for wot is best described as "indifference". I am writing this comment to thank you QB, for all the effort you have put into entertaining so many people. Thank you from the bottom of my heart.
Same. Started watching him feshman year of high school, now I'm 2 years into college. Played wot for around 6 years. Sad to see it may be completely ruined.
I play this game since 2013 with major breaks, I'm 20 year old now... These monetisation strategies are becoming too similar to those of mobile games...
Thank you, QB for giving reasonable and in-depth analysis of this monstrosity and also providing us with the feedback form's link! Amazing video! Keep being as critical and fair, as you are!
NO. Its time to abandone Wargaming for your own sanity. Im a player since 2011. WoT is steadily decreasing in terms of quality of game mechanics. WG only talks one language: $$$
I think now would be the right time for all the players to stop throwing money at WG. They only do it, because there are clearly still enough people to line their pockets.
@@ClockworkBananaMoonThe whales are the same type of ppl that cheered the addition of subs to wows, they only pay to piss ppl off that's why subs, CVs, arty and Op premiums are the only things they play.
@@uksupuksu I have no idea how they would react if player numbers and, more crucially, revenue drop, but I'm willing to try my best to try. Played this game for over eight years, spent some money on the way, but I won't have a problem with turning round and walking away.
Imo skills can stay but they should really rebalance pricing for crew training to make them accesible, like 9 skill crew should be equivalent of todays 5/6 skill one plus the idea everyone waited for which is 1 crew per 3 tanks should be added
But this isn't crew 2.0. It's "just" perks changes. If you maybe remember, WG showed idea of crew 2.0 couple years ago, where instead of few crew members, you have only commander, with strange leveling mechanic up to 50 lvl, and then over it with some kind of prestige levels (I don't remember exactly). But crew skills were quite similar. And it was quite hated by community so they put it to the fridge. Now we have this... thing... and I can imagine, that after some time WG will say, that community disliked new changes, and want to repair broken mechanics, so we kindly fulfill their whims and introduce crew 2.0...
The issue is not the changes, but the XP system. It needs to be a skill tree for the whole tank. Here are, say, 15 slots for your tank - plug in what you want. Make compromises. Try new things. Pay only to change things around. And, yes, this is exactly how Warships works so don't say it's impossible. (also most MMOs now) WG: If you give us so many choices, then the "slots" need to be free. Otherwise it breaks the game entirely and makes it truly impossible for new players to enjoy the game. New Player: "why is he hitting me and killing all my crew?" Friend trying to get them into the game: "well, that's skills he bought that just allows him to kill you faster". New Player: OK, so how do I get those skills. Friend: Well, it would take about 3-4 years. New Player: "Wait, so nothing I can do will make me able to beat them 1v1 during that time? Screw that." Note - this was me and my son two years ago. Not even crew 2.0.
Umm, like it makes a difference? All respect to QB but WoT is his bread and butter content on top of being something he obviously enjoys. He has made his voice heard on issues before and exactly what has WG actually listened to? If they sell a premium consumable to reset all crew skills for gold, they'll make a fortune off this as the sweatlords buy them to convert the hundreds of crew they have. It's easy money and the wallet warriors will, like they always do, fork over for it. The only thing that will stop them is if people stop paying, which they won't.
@@saviourself687 Ohh they will do whatever they want as usual, just feel sorry for QB that he may lose his daily job. For myself I do not lose anything as this game mean very little for me. They could close it and I would not be bother, there better games out there to play.
I admire your desire to do videos like that. I can see the amount of time and thoughts behind this video. I was a sweaty nerd in WOT for 9 years, but I've given up in 2021. All the changes and the requirements now are just impossible to achieve without paying WG a solid amount of money. I still hope that one day, they realise and make the game enjoyable again, because I did not have fun in the game for years. If someone can make a pressure and force them to changes, its people like you and the great community behind contributors. Thank you for all the work that you have done over the years.
This reminds me of World of Warships. I was an enthusiastic alpha tester, but then I was totally frustrated by the constant changes in the captain skills, among other things, you just want to play but then you were confronted with thousands of possibilities and don't make it at all to do everything right. Of course, this later means a not inconsiderable amount of money to make corrections later on. Since the game didn't deliver what I had hoped it would, I rarely play it anymore.
I am 11 years in the game. I completely understand what he is telling us, completely agree with every single of his words, and fully support QB’s will and efforts to keep the game sane. He knows more about how game works, than its developers.
@@SulfuricDrop3 or maybe if WG stopped the nerfing, do you realise that rigging comes as WG keeps changing the rules, so that it is better to hack that to grind only to be cheated on by WG a few moths later.
I think anyone with basic math skills and an understanding of the median income of most people in this country know more about how the game will work than its developers. LOL
@@SulfuricDrop3 or if they would simply implement a very basic system that auto-bans accounts who don't do any dmg in thousands of battles. It's so fishy that some people start to believe WG cooperates with these boosting companies.
One thing I think would be good would be to make the extra skill sets on the commander train simultaneously. So you can train one commander skill, one radio operator skill and one whatever else he can do skill at the same time.
I’ve spent 7 years in this game played mostly for free with a premium account half of the year at times. Now I feel like all those 7 years of grinding and hard work is wasted. Thanks Wargaming.
11-12 here. Still gradually transitioning to WT. But I can also say that soon, this tomato's stats won't matter a lick, so maybe less pressure just tuning in for fun. Perhaps the day after changes will be most fun, because after this review, record low logins out of apprehension.
Dude you don't play to grid You play for fun. You invested your money for 7 years of fun. That's what I did played from 2012 to 2017 and spent a few 100 euros on that game. I don't regret it tho.
I've not been a regular wot player for a while now but it really breaks my heart to see where the game has gone. Don't get me wrong I'm a WT player now and I don't regret the decision, however the love for WOT never left. I want it to be what I remember so bad but if they go forward with this... I am never coming back :(
Same here, I tried World of Tanks again a couple of months ago after a hefty pause and it was full of microtransactions, it felt like a mobile game where the only chance to do well was to pay to win in order to skip the gruesome mandatory grind. And the worst of all: they eliminated low tier artillery vehicles. I loved vehicles like M7 Priest and WoT was one of the few (if not the only place) where the vehicle was available to play, now it doesn't even exist anymore.
How pay to win is WT? I miss WoT but when I realized that the game was going the pay to win route even harder than it was previously. The only way to win is to not play.
I am a Beta tester player and have loved this game for so long and over the past 12 months I have seen to absolute decay of the game. I am fine with companies wanting to make money and have had no issue buying premium tanks or xmas loot boxes over the years across a few different accounts..... but this..... this is the final straw for me where WG have really crossed the line and when this patch lands, I will be hanging up my boots. I will continue to follow the CC's I have been following for many years in the hopes that one day WG come to their senses and reverses or fixes what they intend to destroy but I will not be holding my breathe.
I am a closed beta player and the decay for me started the moment they made premium ammo available for creds which disrupted armour and balance as a whole which, imo, caused them to make armour a balanceable stat causing further balance issues. Add in their unwillingness to nerf premium and reward/special vehicles, WoT has been in a state of decay for at least the past 5 years.
Armored warfare crew skill is very well designed. It’s like a tree. As you level up, you pick 1 of 2 skills on that level. WG is doing something similar in field modifications, but refusing to change crew skills to this system. Unless field mod, this either/or system from armored warfare make you choose what aspect you want to improve, without making the other one worse. It’s has nothing to do with how many crew members you have.
@@pivkemrzli2297 its a turd that you can buy t10 premiums with 100+$, and there are like 10+ bundles. If i remember correctly there is a skin that is 20$ for 1 tank and looks like shit.
There needs to be a cap on a number of skills a crew member has. Something like the WoWs captain. So you don't infinitely improve your crew but you have to make hard choices. Also in WoWs when they change a skill in a major way they give you free skills resets for a patch or two and an ability to reset all your commanders at the same time.
there is a slight chance wg had this in mind - but IF, then they failed massively to set it to test and/or communicate their intentions clearly. And then wot+ is coming around the corner giving you the chance to have 7mio xp to one crew in a year by just paying ... ok, 53mio xp for 9 perks still will take 7+ years from scratch. will the game even exist this time?
All of this could be fixed if WG just capped the skills to 3 or 4, this way you'd actually need to think what skill to take and it would lessen the gap between free to play players and the unicums.
I thought exactly the same, hard cap those skills. In this way you have to choose what makes you tank better - fire power, mobility or camo, etc. But we know why WG is doing those changes - to make even more money. They want players to buy boosters, wot +, gold, etc. To get as much OP skills as possible.
Thanks for your "Killing the Future of World of Tanks"-Video. With great power comes great responsibility and you have proven once again, that you are one of the most valuable members of this community! Thank you!
Ha ha ha ha. Wargaming do not understand the concept of responsibility. They also don't fully grasp what power is. To them, money is power, so we should act accordingly and with hold "power" from them.
Funny thing is that in WoWS every single time they change a single captain skill, you would have a grace period of like a week or a month to re-spec your skills... you get this every single time even if the change was minor. But instead in WoT, they revap the whole system, by the core and basically say "hey you can change like 2-3 tank crews, and pay the rest, good luck!" which is absolutely astounding and honestly disguting.
There was a rework of the commander skills in wows. Supposedly for the same reasons. When the smoke cleared it wasn’t much different. They did give us the ability to reset all our commander with the push of one button. A “universal “ reset. My guess is this what happens in tanks when this drops. I hope 😂
Quicky Baby, I can't say this enough...Thank You, Thank You for spending your hard work and valuable time making this video. It helps an at best Average player like myself to understand the what looks to be inevitable that is happening to WOT. Thank you SO MUCH on your criticisms on World of Tanks even though it pains you to do so since the amount of time and effort you have put in over so many years on this game. I look forward to seeing IF Wargaming actually responds in ANY way shape or form on your video or if you are ignored.
@@chillshock2144 Even if you train all of the crew for the one tank with the most crew members and then transfer them to other tanks in that class that use less crew you will still be penalized for the crew being trained for a different tank. As it stands now, you can take a tech-tree crew and slot them in to a premium tank without penalty. If you take a tech-tree crew and slot them in to another tech-tree tank then they get a significant penalty to their skill as they are "unfamiliar" with the new tank.
My 2 cents: we have to be honest with ourselves. If QB is right and unless you don't care about playing well at all... we have to 100% stop paying and probably even playing: the game would become too "pay to win" at this points (also considering WoT + ...). And even if we have invested time and resources in the game... we _cannot_ get our investment back if the game has nothing left to offer, so we might as well stop wasting time and resources.
The updates do seem really worrying . I’m a wot whale, I’m a middle aged accountant with grown kids, I have money to burn . That being said , I hate pay to win , it cheapens the entire experience for everyone . Free to play players are critical to wot success , you don’t want an inferior experience for anyone . Tanks is the kind of game you may play a few months or years, take a break come back , I don’t know how the game should be fixed , but free play experience matters to me, it’s how I got my Freinds and my cousin to play . It is also healthy for the community. When people can use money to get massive battle advantages , this is bad for,everyone . Please wargaming , focus on the free to play players, give them more , make sure they can compete without feeling handicapped . It better for everyone , good luck all
Cheers, Qb. WOT is your bread and butter and how you make your living. Your honesty is appreciated. If this all goes through, the game will become a parody of what it once was. The only way for them to listen is that people stop buying in the loot boxes on the markets, etc. Boycott events. And that requires all players of all skill levels to speak up. Otherwise, the entire fun element will disappear from the game. But the sums you did at the end had me laughing. It's insane 😂 And I am never spending money on this game anymore.
I have been calling for this for over 2 years. The player community in WoT has no concept of the power they can wield over Wargaming Arena. As I tell people, if you keep giving them money they will continue to milk the cow. That money stops coming in they will then start to wonder and maybe even reach out and find out why. Boycott's of games, while some people think that is horrible way of changing things, but if you have people not filling the ques, not buying things from the cash store, people not making it worth for all the server equipment as the return on investment now is very small or is a loss, once again a smart company might listen. Of course the best situation is sellout and give the title and license to a company that knows how to manage war games. I have always pointed out of how this game is sort revolving around WWII in your ads, don't put a tank never made like the Chinese rocket tanks at such a low level that they really have an easy time fighting against tanks 20-30 years older (i.e. Tier 6 vs Tier 8). There should not even be Tier 8 vs 10 as most of the 10 tanks were created in some cases in the 60's, where all the lessons from the second WW were learned and new materials, new microchips, etc all make a 1944 tank seem like ancient history. Players who like this disadvantage fine. Just don't complain after all the money you spend on that t10 premium there is no one to play as players have left. We the players need to start using our wallet and player count to our advantage and start laying down what should be fixed now before any new tank or any other silly system is added. If you keeping paying they will keep ruining the game.
It hurts in such a different way to watch the game you love being torn apart by the devs. As someone who played Star Wars: Galaxies back in the day and the changes they made over the years I can totally relate. I quit WoT years ago and have only popped in every now and then for a quick match just to shake my head and leave.
WG are just farming people like you but haven't left yet. When you are so emotionally invested that they can make you spend loads of money just to get some more matches out of the game, you're just livestock.
I also felt betrayed and left 6 years of progress and haven't been playing since 2 years I switched to WT to fill the gap, and honestly I've been having more fun, although the Gaijin behaves like WG's 3-4 year-ago version They're also slightly into p2w area but at least they don't mess up how you play the game every year, rather it's actually improving. I feel like I'm playing strategically once again, like I was about 4 years ago in WOT. If anybody would switch I'd recommend Ground Arcade until you learn map positions and weak points (yes, it's still a thing in WT, unlike WOT). Now I'm 7.7 Germany in Realistic mode and I think I got into the solid player base layer, as I play daily
Hello QB, I’ve been playing this game for a couple of years free to play. I was practically forced to buy a $50 tank to make any credits as I did not plan every single thing leading up the tech tree. My highest skill tank, the max 13 105, has 4 skills with zero perk crew; I don’t even have full repairs on it. This update makes me seriously consider quitting the game and cutting my losses as I’ve just been beginning to feel competitive, and now I will be back where I started several YEARS ago. I hope they scale back the changes or at least give avenues to make the game less of a daunting task to begin to understand and play. Thanks for all the work you do, giving the community a voice and educating older and newer players alike, we really appreciate it.
I started playing the game at the beginning, but haven't played in several years, mainly because of the extreme grind to unlock any of the good tanks and get your crew skills. It's not uncommon for it to take 2-3K games to unlock the next crew skill so, anything that lessens the grind and makes the game more interesting is good in my book. I may check the game out again when this comes out.
yeah I started playing as a kid and grinded to tier 10 in multiple lines without premium. by the time I got all these tier 10s I wanted so bad they were completely useless compared to the new stuff they had added.
@@Half_Finis its the anniversary mission mate, if u get to the top10 players by xp it u get the x5 xp bonus mission, but only limited to 40 completions.
I feel like quite a lot of the crew skills are just going to be unavailable as they will take too long to grind out. So, only super unicums with 9 million personal training manuals and enough time and patience to grind out 10 skills crews on their cheftains.
I have 2 crews with 6 skills, and that’s only because I dump all of my resources into those 2 crews. My next best crew is only 20% into the 3 skill. They also need to get rid of barracks limits or create a “waiting room” so I can remove crews off a tank and move them to another with needing to have enough free slots to do so. Just don’t allow me to launch a game unless I’ve assigned said crew…
Yep. I've played for 10+ years and have had a premium account for the past 7 probably, and even I will no longer be competitive with these super tanks even in my best crewed tanks And the part that's even more laughable is that Wargaming to compensate me are giving me 12 crew retrain manuals lol. So I can't even refit my crews to the new changes The whole thing is such a joke. War gaming got terrible feedback on crew changes last time they tried this, so I guess they decided to say screw it this time and do it anyways
But there will actually only be 1% of the base who will have the ability to go for the super setup. The rest will just keep playing as it were. And i actually don't think I will feel the big difference in gameplay. Bad players will still be bad, no matter how many skills they have. And the player base is bad.
@@jandalgaard3251ore people spend money in this game than you think. Even those who don't spend ridiculous amounts, just the ability to spend some gold and retrain all their crews to fit these new perks will be a massive advantage compared to someone like me who is going to have 2nd loaders stuck with intuition, and other perks that I never would've taken had these been in the game. I and many others are just going to be stuck with inferior or even worthless crew skills (intuition on 2nd loader)
Mate its not even doable to get from almoast 6 skills to 9 on medium tank crew without spending 90% of 100 mln free exp we get in garage for testing xd
Excellently organized and thought out. Finally a QB content with Balls. I completely agree in all points, and I think if WG were to implement the changes QB is suggesting here, it would really make it a positive change for everyone. Another thought could be changing the skills and perks system to be balancing like with field mods, where taking 1 skill/perk would improve that skill at a slight cost of another. This would make it even more diverse.
Therefore, small crew tanks have avantages like good Camo. I Cant compete against manticore with my 5 crew Sheridan. With this crew system, i coule have more perks and rebalance. Same with my tog
Years too late. QB should have condemned WG the moment OBJ 252u came out. I quit the game around that time as I saw no good in a game where the "weak spot" lower plate has the same effective armor as the upper frontal plate of an IS-3.
Thanks for all the hard work, Quickybaby. To be honest with you, I have already lose faith with this game a really long time ago. No matter how hard I try to "get good" in this game, I always got over performed by the experienced player. I just play this game once a while during some fun gamemode coming out like the WT E100 event. I hope you'll still like this coming when this update comes to live game.
yeah, the skill ceiling is so high now that even with 12,000 games I had might as well never have played. Meta's are fixed, and instead of shaking things up with new maps and fun things its just been power creep for a decade.
QB I can't Even begin to thank you enough for making this video. Very good points. I have 697 tanks in my garage and it's actually a slap in the face to say here are all 12 resets for your crew's it's almost funny. I and I hope more of the community send wg a ticket about this upcoming disaster with the crew skills and voice your opinion. As they say strength in numbers. A single voice can't be heard but 10 thousand voices will be heard around the world of tanks community. I love this game and if they implement this travesty of basically crew 2.0 they have literally just killed the game. Please wg STOP with these changes to the crews you keep trying to force down our throat's.
Thank you QuickyBaby for having the courage to say what needed to be said. I agree with you 100% the crew skill change will be the start of the death spiral for the game.
Really respect your in-depth feedback to WG that not every CC is putting as much time and effort in. We know well enough that WG doesn't always listen, but you still at least try your best to try and stop WG from ruining what we love. Fingers crossed!
QB, thank you for breaking down all the info for this update - the game has basically been over for me since Equip 2.0 stripped all my equipment from all the tanks I was playing of my over 350 - I only had around 30 mil credits and it would take a couple hundred mil to put equip back on them - I have 5 Battlepass tanks I have only played 1 mandatory battle in without any equipment on them just for them to register - I also have a bunch of loot box tanks from several years ago that I have not played because I will not waste my resources just to have WG f them up also with something like Crew 2.0 - I just found I had a Tier5 German tank from loot box's (regretted buying the next day) I spent several mil credits to put a crew and equipment only to find I did not have enough crew to play it well like I used to before Equip 2.0 -- I used to play all my off work hours playing this game for many years - I now play around 10 to 15 battles a week if I play at all - I have refused to mention this game to anyone since the RNG was implemented - I call it the fairness policy like they did to on-line poker before US government stopped us from playing for real money about the time I started playing this game - I stopped play Warships when they moved it up from the 7 player base and implemented all the new crap and none of my ships were competitive anymore - I spent over 50K battles grinding for a great tank only to have WG f the tanks up just or after I got it - I have stopped grinding because I know it is a losing battle - I have also stopped playing Battlepass since they took away 1/3 of the resources you earned -
Yeah, been playing for 10 years. Think this takes the cake for me if it goes in. Maus at 29kph... Badger at 6000 dpm??? good lord. The last good patch for me was update 1.0 with the graphics overhaul. Thanks for giving us entertainment for all these years Quickybabs. You've done a phenomenal job, very thorough and detailed work, very funny and genuine person.
Excellent review of the patch. However, you may have forgotten another point, if you don't mind. There will be far less diversity of vehicles in a battle due to people just playing their favorite tanks to build up exp on their crews.
You are absolutely right, wargaming are going up in their a** by implementing these things, thank you for calling them out and telling that it is completely absurd
QB, this is QB at your very BEST as a responsible content provider! Thank you for being the “Guardian Voice” of Wo WG is supposed to take that role, but they have forfeited their responsibility to the longevity of the game & the players for GOLD! Seems WG is dead set on bringing about what they fear the most… The End of WG💥
My first game I felt in love with. I was 10 when I started playing it... I dont play it these days. Quited 1.5 years ago due to the monetisation in order to be competetive. I dont have the pocket for it. But here and then I always like to check some QBs videos and see how things are going. Sad to hear about these changes...
Quickybaby, thumbs up for the video! I agree what you all have said. If a commander has for example 3 roles you should now start 3 skills simultaneously. All the skills should be reset for free. So you can pick what you want to start first.
Dude.. I think you are the one of the content creators who literally tries to improve and save the future of this game and its community. Your hard work is far beyond of my appreciation. Thanks, million and billion times thanks, to you. You are the man of merit, dignity, truthfulness, you are the best man this cominity ever could have. It's a shame for WG has not been listening your advices comes from your hard brain work for so many years. Maybe its a time to stand up and show WG how serious we are. Maybe its the time to protest this unacceptable behaviours in your streams ( of streamers who shares the same idea wih you, with us) and please, PLEASE do not stop it with a single video. Carry and talk about it in your streams and inform other streamers and players about that and call them to unite against WG. Please orginize all of relevant participants and protest! We are all stand with you. We have not bonds with WG, but you. from Turkey, with love.
@@ragetobe It's good to hear that. I do not know other streamers, but if its so, its good news. It means We have lots of influencer ppl who organize and guide the community. And I changed my statement based on this info.
Well done QB for including the link to the 'feedback page'! I filled it in just now. I can't imagine they themselves believe that this new system will promote more variation in playstyles XD The only variation there will be, will be between those who follow the most optimal training path, those who don't and the sweaty whales who are at the top of the arms race ... . It is flat out saying: we only care about making as much from the whales as possible and all the other players are just targets for them.
Update: WG has announced they are giving full crew resets now. And it sounds like they are considering the bond equipment aspect of WoT Plus as well. Keep giving feedback everyone!
There was a time, when the IS3 and the T29 were awesome tanks. I also had a 10 shot Bulldog Autoloader. I had my favorite tank, the Ferdinand, and I could actually carry games in it. Those days are gone. And I am gone from the game too. WG made it a ridiculous clownfest. I'm flying planes in War Thunder now to kill the time.
My favorite part of this is for the amount it would cost in gold to get the AMX ELC crew maxed with gold, you could probably buy WG itself. I don't see the company being worth over $242 million US but I might be wrong.
Terrific video to highlight the pending decline and perhaps eventual end of WOT, QB! Really appreciate all the time and effort you put into this video along with all your other WOT content on YT. Nothing much to add to what you and the many commenters below have said concerning this abomination of an update on the horizon. After 7+ years, I am very seriously considering voting with my feet and wallet, ie quitting the game. Clearly the evolving WG business model is all about greed and not having a happy customer base with a fun to play game! Makes me wonder if this is part of a master plan to bleed the WOT community dry in the short term and then one day "flip" the switch and turn the servers off while the song "Take the Money and Run" plays at corporate HQ!
it's GOOD that "nobody" can achieve a "full skill setup" crew, this increases skill setup diversity - as intended. problem is that money can buy crew xp.
Greetings QB, I have been playing since January 2014 and having seen all of the shenanigans that Wargaming has done, I am nearly ready to just hang it up. I have spent many thousands of dollars. This feels so overwhelming a process. Ultimately WG just doesn’t care about the players. We are going to have to speak with our wallets. Again Thank you for your time spent producing this video. Cheers!
Stopped playing a couple of months ago, this definitely makes me want to never come back. Decided to finally uninstall the game. Thank you for staying true and real, will continue to watch your content even though i am not playing the game anymore.
I just did the same, tested the changes on common test, got fed up with the game uninstalled noth the CT and the normal game. I do not have the will to play this anymore. It is just not fun :/
Lol. How many times did he talk about the game rigging cheater companies and the flood of bots in hightier? He's on WGs payroll and this is just a distraction from the actual problem of the game
It so sad to really stop playing a game that you started to play 10 years ago because WG is so greedy and not thinking through some things that are not that complicated to notice... RIP WG 😢..... And thank you QB for making this videos to help us see some things more clearly and alway taking your time to do this kind of research ❤😊
If Wargaming was trying to get more of their players to take a look at Warthunder (Which I've heard is at least *less* pay-to-win), they're doing a great job :(
Simple fix for odd-crew compositions. Give them an experience multiplier for each role they are assigned. So if your Commander is also a gunner and a radioman they get 3x experience. Doing this would normalize the experience gain per tank regardless of crew size or composition.
You hit the nail on the head. Before, it was pay to win but only marginally. Now, as a very average player who has grinded years to get a few four and five skill crews, while being willing to buy the premium bs, this is going to make me feel like jumping on pc from blitz. It was the same game but it wasn't. And this is a much more dramatic change. In fact, it will make me stop playing the game. Crazy how that works.
THIS is one of the reasons I've been a subscriber for all these years and tipped from time to time! Thanks QB! The skill xp cost slashing and full skill reset also went through my head as the best way to go, as the decision to give only 12 retraining orders is a mockery.
Wait so, if Jack of All Trades reduces the chance of Commander Injury by 30%, and Call for Vengeance reduces Radio Operator Injury chance by 30%. Does that mean Commanders that double up as Radio Operators (Manticore) will now have a 60% reduction to chance of injury
I don't think I support the idea that all of these perks are necessary. What I think is that now there are options, now you pick which ones you want to tweak the tank in specific ways. This could create more diversity in how tanks are played, different players prioritizing different things. Now because it takes huge amounts of exp to get past 6 skill crews that means that not many people will even have the option to take all of these "necessary" perks. If you want to make a crazy dpm build you can, but you wont be able to take the utility/defensive options.
And then you start playing good and figure out 99% of tanks need bia, repair/camo and then anything that helps you with offense. Which means most of new skills are mandatory plus old buffed ones now also become mandatory too
I think we should have a skill cap. Each crew member can only pick 3-4 crew skills out of the total. That will force players to go for a build rather then sweaty players getting everything
@elitere-classtsudzurao4421 it would create the same situation as now but people will have more options to choose. @gagekrumlauf8198 I was not aware that wot console did this.
If WG is dead set on introducing this, a full global crew skill reset of all crewes for everyone NEEEEDDS to be mandatory. People will still spend money on resetting skills once they realize they chose the wrong kills and perks.
Thanks for your video and advocacy for newer players. There are so many problems with the proposed changes and even others in the recent past. This one seems to be so over the top that it is hard to understand where there is any reasonableness in WG's decision-makers. Even a huge amount of free resets would, only very slightly, mitigate the damage this will cause.
you have convinced me to leave World of Tanks. I had 2 years of good fun but i did notice xmas time the game was becoming crazy losing streaks were starting to get more and more. Lots of bots and people cheating. I dont like the game as much as i did b4. Watching this video which is Awesome has got me thinking time to stop playing WOT. thank you Will i still watch you on Twitch and TH-cam awesome to watch you Cheers
I thought the idea was to adopt the WoWs skill system where the skills are bought with points and the max number of points a commander can have is limited, which forces you to actually pick skills and prevents you from having everything on every ship. Still hoping that is the objective, but if they go with this version it's gonna hurt the game to the point it might not matter when further refining change comes
Just some thoughts from my side: maybe WG tried to balance the system by making it impossible for the whales to get all the skills, so you really have to think which one you want to take and cause you can't take all and it would provide you a to large benefit above other players by having them all. But on the other hand I still think this new system is pretty bad, but I rly liked your ideas how to improve the system. To get 3 skills to train on your Manti while having earned the amount of XP for one, it would really help the tanks with high pressure and wouldn't even make it unbalanced
Fair argument but at that point why not add a cap to how many skills you can have? Make crews easier to grind (say 3 months to get the maximum amount of skills), allow crews to be used on like 2-3 tanks and leave the skills as strong as they have made them in 1.20.1 . That actually forces you to make a choice and isn't just a race at who nerds/spends the most to have more skills which give a very big advantage.
@@nicolasmariotti I am new to the game 5k games like 8 years ago, 6k fot the last 9 months. To be honest there is neccesity to balance the crew 2.0 changes. Either to limit the number of skills and perks or offer new player faster way to get the crews trained to the acceptable level and somehow tweak the speed of training fortanks with a small crew. If they can solve those things, I see the changes as very good, as they offer more variety. U will have the opportunity to spec your tank much more to your taste. Now is more or less the same for all. I like the idea to have the same tank with different setup and so different gameplay. But as I said, u need to have limited number of skills for a crew in the first place...
i first played in 2014 remember it being quite fun, and i didnt have to catch up much with the current meta inside wot. then i took a 4 year break due to life and nows theres modules? and equipment? it took me a little while to eventually catch up and now im being hit with another curve-ball. If wargaming releases any or most of these features its pretty safe to say that me and my clan will no longer be playing, it was fun whilst it lasted. Thanks QB.
Thanks QB for outlining things. I have been playing for 8+ years and been happy for some changes but disappointed by many more. Over the last year I have been playing the other tank game, which until recently, have only dabbled in. I have been looking to come back but others complaints of how it has changed in just the last year have left me questioning this. With the upcoming changes here, sadly, it's looking unlikely. I have NA and EU accounts and a good clan, don't really want to go. The other tank game has it's issues too, but now that I have gotten good at it, I'm enjoying much more. 😥
Thank you QB for standing up for us regular players. I sincerely hope they listen but I won't hold my breath. What they should do is only have the highest value be accounted for.
Ive been playing since the beginning, and while I do like the idea of the new skills, I hate HATE the cost of it and how much grinding / money it will cost. They should get rid of crew XP and just let you pick 5 skills per role, active based on the level of tank you are in. i.e. Tier 5 you get 1 skill per role, tier 6 2 skill, etc up to tier 10 and 5 skills.
Dude, all respect to you, its been a blast playing and watching you on youtube, unfortunately, im pretty sure they know EXACTLY, what are they doing, and that is exactly their aim so, all must end sooner or later.
A well thought out video. Completely agree with your opinion on this update. If Wargaming Doesn't listen to it's top youtube creator then there's no hope for the future of this game.
What if they capped the total amount of crewskills a tank can have (not per crew but per tank(but then they also make the skills for all crews just in one crew (like bia repairs
They effectively have as no one will spend 190million to get all skills. By making so hard to get skills, skill choice from a limited selection will be a skill.
@@stevedotrsa I think what he is saying is have the same amount of XP required for a Manticore to have 12 skills as a Maus to have 12 skills. Which would make sense tbh because low crew tanks (ie lights) are already so fucking dog shit compared to heavies that there needs to be a change.
Haven't uninstalled WoT but have installed War Thunder, oh boy, great Tank fun, catastrophic scenes where Tanks duel on the ground and planes chase each other in the sky, despite one shot kills, it's waaay less frustrating, more fun and most importantly, beginning Ranks are really fun too, plus better graphics, sounds and physics. Hope to see you guys over there!
Hi QB! Im Lukas from the training map you did on your live yesterday (your loyal sacrifice offer and friendly Maus from the testserver) and i just wanna say thank you for letting me have a fun, 1 and half hour with you! It is absurd how WG think this is a good update or even okay. Im a free to play player myself and im gonna have a hard time cuz most of my crews are only 2-3 crew skills. Not only are they making it harder for free to play players but also the clan wars cuz nobody want a member with only 5-7 crew skills now. Free to play with only 2-3 crew skills are gunna suffer and most likely be unplayable game if they update the game like this. Thank you for hopefully doing something against WG and standing up for all of us who thinks this is a shit update. Also just wanted to say massive thanks to you for letting me play with you, it was super fun!
I think what WG is trying to do is parallel all the WoT iterations to be the same; i.e. mobile, PC, etc. Is this a good idea? Hell no, but I've been trying to figure WTF they're trying to do with all this and that's my current Hypothesis. Nothing else really makes sense unless they're actively sabotaging the game so everyone leaves so they can fold it up and close it down with as little fuss as possible. Edit: also, first time I've ever hit a QB vid first. Maybe I should go buy a lottery ticket...
The most critical crew skill balancing factor in Blitz is having crew sizes be irrelevant, which would have been very good at relieving the pressure on low crew tanks, they aren't ding that at all.
Please leave your feedback here: forms.office.com/e/j71m9huBa4
0:00 Killing the Future of World of Tanks
1:17 Crew 2.0
2:41 The Good Things
7:22 The Bad Things
13:11 6,000 Damage Per Minute
16:02 10 Fires in 2 minutes
18:05 The E 25 can’t be spotted until 280 m while firing
24:55 The Game is Going to get Faster
27:29 Wargaming Change Intuition Again
30:25 The Deplorable
32:39 9 Skills in the New Normal
36:22 Sweaty nerds with deep pockets are now better than you
37:25 Small crews just got screwed
39:07 3.4 BILLION Exp
42:32 £198,398,251 to afford every skill
43:26 25,748 years to grind a maxed out crew#
44:01 Ignorantly bolting on ill-conceived changes to an archaic system
44:49 Wargaming are killing the future of World of Tanks for new players
48:15 They offer you 12 free resets (lol)
51:25 How to fix it
52:00 Reduce EXP Requirements by 4
53:22 Reset Intuition
53:38 Give us free resets for the rest of 2023
54:29 Allow each crew member to take multiple role skills
55:07 Do the same with BiA, Repairs and Concealment
56:16 The conclusion
57:46 Give WG your feedback
Filled and submitter
done!
Thanks so much for your deep-dive QB, so much love for a game that is on the verge of killing itself.
done
Just straight up going to leave the video link for WG 😂
Most players over last few years: "WG is slowly killing this game"
WG: "hold my beer"
ah yes, now they are killing it fast
Whaaat!, QB making a critique of WG:D
The whales would be calling this utter Blasphemy.
As a long term veteran and a person who has paid WG more moneyz than willing to admit,the WG finds new and novel ways of shafting both paying and free playing customers alike...
I went from WOT to WOWS because it was a simpler game and more enjoyable. Roll on and WOWS started this same buggering about with the game and many people left. So I came back to WOT and for two years it’s been fine, but now WOT are doing the same damage to the game as the WOWS developers did, so I’m likely to quit and with no regrets, WOT is becoming corporately toxic.
@@apyllyonAnd you'll keep playing and giving them money becaus WG knows theres many like you out there
@@stevebarnett5048 Being PR toxic is the least of the games worries,the toxic player base has been a recurring problem and wgs removal of mechanisms and monumentally slow and cumbersome penalty system has only worsened the problem yet their chat-penalty system and mods work like the spanish inquisition,you can get toxic and truly mental players in the team but you are not allowed vent about it.and the situation has only grown worse since the WG shut down its russian servers leading to what some call the arrival of the ``Euroruskis``.
its utterly laughable that WG sells their games as PG 7 and trying to keep offensive language out of the game and same time sell open gambling to kids It´s like the guy with a smoking a cigar patting the kiddos on the head``don´t worry kid i protect your feelies´´ and at the same time´´ey sport wanna make a bet?´´
Best way to hurt WG is to either report them to PEGI or stop playing.
You know it's bad when both QuickyBaby and Skil are both saying this is going to ruin the game.
The thing that will kill the game are the cheater-companies who spam toptier with bots.
In the defence of QB he has been very vocal on the bad things WG have done to WOT
Foch saw this shit coming years ago and jumped the sinking ship. He was the smart one.
@@AlteraLin Yeah but why would QB and skill quit if they are making good money from streaming WOT anyway?
It's more surprising that skill is saying something about it.
Because more often than not, skill says that alot of these pay to win mechanics aren't a problem/aren't pay to win.
And I watch skill over quickybaby at this point, but one thing I really like about QB is he's so vocal about things that are blatantly ruining the game.
I left the game 6+ years ago but I've kept watching QB regularly. Man, I can't imagine how painful it is for him to watch this happen to his game and have no ability to stop it...
Pretty much same position here. Love watching his content, love the idea of the game, but disagree heavily with how they've taken it.
Everything dies.
I'm in the same boat. It was already pretty pay to win at that time but now it seems to have gone off the charts. I cannot imagine returning to this, and combine it with tens and tens of new tanks that you would need to learn the weakspots for.
it isn't "his game" - rather one he's built a small cottage industry off of. Kind of like a tick. but continue......
imagine your are making a living of it
I too inherited my ELC commander from my father who inherited it from his grandfather and so on. It is our family’s prized heirloom, a truly generational grind.
So it skipped your own grandpa?
@@Corey_Brandt yes he played arty so he was disinherited
nickname in WoT?
i laughed so hard when QB started calculating how much money and years it will take to reach max crew 🤣🤣
24k, I laughed too! 🤣🤣😁😁😂😂
Idk man, 27000 years without sleeping to get a good crew on my Elc Bis sounds pretty reasonable
💀(literally)
I started to laugh, I quickly stopped 😱
read article about herowars, the mobile game. I started to play recently and just learnt that there are people who spend yearly 40-50k EURs on that game just to be and stay competitive. btw that is also russian origin game and maybe that talked to each other how the playerbase can be better milked... WoT was too generous so far :)
The way I see it, wargaming isn't playing the long term game. They have lost care for the game and want to make as much profit before the game crashes and burns.
I agree with you. Perhaps they already have plans to move to another game and just want to squeeze the lemon dry before just shutting it down... as i see it they will someday just keep the EU server and then watch become wot blitz
The decisions to go out of Russia and Belarus is morally right but they themselve admitted that it will hurt them financially since RU used to be their largest player base. They claim that they don't make any money of Russians and Belarusian customer anymore but people know that they still make some money by licensing the game to vestas studio. And then forget, China. I think this might set the precedents on why we've seen the actions that they taken is clearly will piss off the majority of the player base.
I am worried I thought the same thing
@@m.syamil_KR4PU exactly my opinion its the substitute for the loss of RU Region so to say its a logic decision in their point of view!!!!
@@m.syamil_KR4PU it all the money they gave to UK raine and LBM they trying to get back, they chose to play politics, instead of staying quite and worry about thier games based on war, the Irony coming from them.. 😂😮
I have been playing this game for about 10 years. This update just breaks my heart. I agree with you QB, and I want to say "thank you" for the amazing content, care for ALL players, and devotion to the game. Two good friends of mine, one coworker and one of my roommates from college, both started WoT within the last 8 months or so. With all of these changes, their interest is fading fast, and it makes me so angry to see WG's BS tactics. Being competitive in the game never phased me much, because it was all about the fun and thrills of what you could do with the vehicles that attracted me. Now that the WoT Plus and Crew 2.0 (definitely the bigger elephant in the room) are going into the game... it will just kill the fun. As it stands now, the game is at least workable, to an extent. However, with Update 1.20.1, I'm beginning to question that more and more. What fun is there in a game when a Badger, a Bourrasque, etc., is beating the daylights out of you, and you can't do anything about it due to the new system?
I am sorry. After 10 years most people would have wised-up. WOT is crapware and needs to die on the vine. Better games are out there.
I am on same boat and I had many people join cause of me, but the game brings simple joys. I hope it doesn’t get too over it’s head and shit on itself.
The problem is you've been playing a bad game and are not able to move on despite so many options out there. I quit the game in 2017 and never been happier, only watch QB for cool plays other wise I am glad not wasting my time to grind tanks and waste money on this bad game.
@@danm3532 since you said that, what other games in your opinion may compete / be compared to WoT? im serious, no sarcasm - im also fed up with those changes and still want to play something about tanks. i touched AW but it sunk quickly, i played WT but it's weird to me, didnt atract me too much. recommendations? :)
I'm hoping that everyone will stop playing the game and that WG will go f**king bankrupt.
Corporations like WG should get no better. They do not care for the community (it wasn't always the case but it has been for 10+ years now) and only care about money, money, money. However, it looks like they aren't doing good but they are such idiots that they think that this will revive the game. What a joke.
You need to accept the truth - this game will became worse and worse over the time as game creators/developers/whatever are clearly braindead and delusional. Don't feed their illness and stop buying anything in game for real money. That's the only way they gonna learn.
I've spent 600+ euroes over last 3 years and I regret it way too much. Not because I spent that money but because it went to WG. They don't deserve a fuc**ng penny.b
Thank You QB for laying it all out for us, you put a lot of work into this and it is appreciated. It is rather a depressing view into the future of the game. For me it feels like that after 10 years of playing WOT it seems that WG want us to just start all over again, and forget the last decade. Yes, I can see a lot of us are going to dust off their old E25's and take them out for a spin. However, the grind that now seems necessary for "ordinary" tanks and crews to be competitive will probably be too much for newer players and they are likely to drift away.
It will just entice people to pay more which is the whole reasoning behind Wargaming decisions.
Respect to you qb for not only showing us what the problems are, but also trying to solve them. You guys realize that not a lot of people do that. Other would simply complain and that would be it. Thank you QB
It’s make the video a lot more professional (even if they don’t listen).
After 9 years or so….I’m leaving the game for good. Thanks QB for all the effort you put into the community.
I leave to
wait a bit they haven't fucked it up yet ....
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You won't regret it.
I stopped playing 4 years ago... But I still can't help but login from time to time for nostalgia reasons... And the joy just lessens each time...
it's not just the time and money, suddenly it will becomes so technical that many will struggle to understand where on the battlefield you have to be and how to set up your tank 100%.
Lol, so nothing will change?
@@donetoldyaso.99 its not that bad now, sounds like a skill issue
Your analysis is much appreciated. As an IT professional, you are spot on in identifying that WG has NOT done sufficient design work to consider all those crucial items you've painstakingly pointed out... offering suggestions is also excellent work -- you not only identify the problems, but offer constructive solutions. Resetting the base XP starting point and then doubling would certainly be attractive for new players as well as vets -- everyone get's equal benefit. The "multi-role" problem -- elegant simple solution as you pointed out... I hope they are listening. It was unfortunate that the survey form did not allow for free form comments.
Thank you QB. You aren't going to read this but still, thank you. I grew up with wot, this was my first proper video game and I have been watching you since I was a freshman in middle school. This game shaped my life, and I literally grew up watching you :)
Now I am 21 in university, I am busy enough as it is for gaming in general. I used to rage hard at weegee for their brain dead decisions. I complained in comments and complained with other wot playing friends. Now I no longer write rants in comments, and my friends no longer play wot. My feeling for wot is best described as "indifference". I am writing this comment to thank you QB, for all the effort you have put into entertaining so many people. Thank you from the bottom of my heart.
Same. Started watching him feshman year of high school, now I'm 2 years into college. Played wot for around 6 years. Sad to see it may be completely ruined.
Ya im indifferent now too. Good word.
I play this game since 2013 with major breaks, I'm 20 year old now... These monetisation strategies are becoming too similar to those of mobile games...
Thank you, QB for giving reasonable and in-depth analysis of this monstrosity and also providing us with the feedback form's link! Amazing video! Keep being as critical and fair, as you are!
I think now would be the right time for all the content creators to come together against this update.
NO. Its time to abandone Wargaming for your own sanity. Im a player since 2011. WoT is steadily decreasing in terms of quality of game mechanics. WG only talks one language: $$$
I think now would be the right time for all the players to stop throwing money at WG. They only do it, because there are clearly still enough people to line their pockets.
@@ClockworkBananaMoon that is also true, but if this update goes to the main version its likely it will not be removed.
@@ClockworkBananaMoonThe whales are the same type of ppl that cheered the addition of subs to wows, they only pay to piss ppl off that's why subs, CVs, arty and Op premiums are the only things they play.
@@uksupuksu I have no idea how they would react if player numbers and, more crucially, revenue drop, but I'm willing to try my best to try. Played this game for over eight years, spent some money on the way, but I won't have a problem with turning round and walking away.
QuickyBaby, hello bro. Russia stand with you, we are agree with you
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Everyone must like this video. This has to go viral for WG to nerf crew 2.0 changes.
Nah... Probably it's fall to the trash bin like other suggestions. Sad thing is, this game will probably die slowly because WG have enough much money.
They won't do shit. This won't change anything.
Imo skills can stay but they should really rebalance pricing for crew training to make them accesible, like 9 skill crew should be equivalent of todays 5/6 skill one plus the idea everyone waited for which is 1 crew per 3 tanks should be added
But this isn't crew 2.0. It's "just" perks changes. If you maybe remember, WG showed idea of crew 2.0 couple years ago, where instead of few crew members, you have only commander, with strange leveling mechanic up to 50 lvl, and then over it with some kind of prestige levels (I don't remember exactly). But crew skills were quite similar. And it was quite hated by community so they put it to the fridge. Now we have this... thing... and I can imagine, that after some time WG will say, that community disliked new changes, and want to repair broken mechanics, so we kindly fulfill their whims and introduce crew 2.0...
The issue is not the changes, but the XP system. It needs to be a skill tree for the whole tank. Here are, say, 15 slots for your tank - plug in what you want. Make compromises. Try new things. Pay only to change things around. And, yes, this is exactly how Warships works so don't say it's impossible. (also most MMOs now)
WG: If you give us so many choices, then the "slots" need to be free. Otherwise it breaks the game entirely and makes it truly impossible for new players to enjoy the game.
New Player: "why is he hitting me and killing all my crew?"
Friend trying to get them into the game: "well, that's skills he bought that just allows him to kill you faster".
New Player: OK, so how do I get those skills.
Friend: Well, it would take about 3-4 years.
New Player: "Wait, so nothing I can do will make me able to beat them 1v1 during that time? Screw that."
Note - this was me and my son two years ago. Not even crew 2.0.
I really hope someone at WG watches this... hats off to you QB.
Umm, like it makes a difference?
All respect to QB but WoT is his bread and butter content on top of being something he obviously enjoys. He has made his voice heard on issues before and exactly what has WG actually listened to?
If they sell a premium consumable to reset all crew skills for gold, they'll make a fortune off this as the sweatlords buy them to convert the hundreds of crew they have. It's easy money and the wallet warriors will, like they always do, fork over for it. The only thing that will stop them is if people stop paying, which they won't.
@@saviourself687 Ohh they will do whatever they want as usual, just feel sorry for QB that he may lose his daily job. For myself I do not lose anything as this game mean very little for me. They could close it and I would not be bother, there better games out there to play.
I admire your desire to do videos like that. I can see the amount of time and thoughts behind this video. I was a sweaty nerd in WOT for 9 years, but I've given up in 2021. All the changes and the requirements now are just impossible to achieve without paying WG a solid amount of money. I still hope that one day, they realise and make the game enjoyable again, because I did not have fun in the game for years. If someone can make a pressure and force them to changes, its people like you and the great community behind contributors. Thank you for all the work that you have done over the years.
This reminds me of World of Warships. I was an enthusiastic alpha tester, but then I was totally frustrated by the constant changes in the captain skills, among other things, you just want to play but then you were confronted with thousands of possibilities and don't make it at all to do everything right. Of course, this later means a not inconsiderable amount of money to make corrections later on. Since the game didn't deliver what I had hoped it would, I rarely play it anymore.
I am 11 years in the game. I completely understand what he is telling us, completely agree with every single of his words, and fully support QB’s will and efforts to keep the game sane. He knows more about how game works, than its developers.
Then why is he so silent about the professional game rigging boosting companies?
@@UnfollowYourDreamsthe rigging company’s wouldn’t be a problem if wargaming just nerfed the broken op tanks
@@SulfuricDrop3 or maybe if WG stopped the nerfing, do you realise that rigging comes as WG keeps changing the rules, so that it is better to hack that to grind only to be cheated on by WG a few moths later.
I think anyone with basic math skills and an understanding of the median income of most people in this country know more about how the game will work than its developers. LOL
@@SulfuricDrop3 or if they would simply implement a very basic system that auto-bans accounts who don't do any dmg in thousands of battles. It's so fishy that some people start to believe WG cooperates with these boosting companies.
One thing I think would be good would be to make the extra skill sets on the commander train simultaneously. So you can train one commander skill, one radio operator skill and one whatever else he can do skill at the same time.
That is a fantastic idea!
I’ve spent 7 years in this game played mostly for free with a premium account half of the year at times. Now I feel like all those 7 years of grinding and hard work is wasted. Thanks Wargaming.
Thats because it is.
11-12 here. Still gradually transitioning to WT. But I can also say that soon, this tomato's stats won't matter a lick, so maybe less pressure just tuning in for fun. Perhaps the day after changes will be most fun, because after this review, record low logins out of apprehension.
Dude you don't play to grid
You play for fun.
You invested your money for 7 years of fun.
That's what I did played from 2012 to 2017 and spent a few 100 euros on that game. I don't regret it tho.
I've not been a regular wot player for a while now but it really breaks my heart to see where the game has gone. Don't get me wrong I'm a WT player now and I don't regret the decision, however the love for WOT never left. I want it to be what I remember so bad but if they go forward with this... I am never coming back :(
Same here, I tried World of Tanks again a couple of months ago after a hefty pause and it was full of microtransactions, it felt like a mobile game where the only chance to do well was to pay to win in order to skip the gruesome mandatory grind. And the worst of all: they eliminated low tier artillery vehicles. I loved vehicles like M7 Priest and WoT was one of the few (if not the only place) where the vehicle was available to play, now it doesn't even exist anymore.
How pay to win is WT? I miss WoT but when I realized that the game was going the pay to win route even harder than it was previously. The only way to win is to not play.
@@roneified4405 WT isnt really P2W but there are some paid decors and premium tanks that can net one some advantage.
Bushes on tanks are a pain.
I am a Beta tester player and have loved this game for so long and over the past 12 months I have seen to absolute decay of the game. I am fine with companies wanting to make money and have had no issue buying premium tanks or xmas loot boxes over the years across a few different accounts..... but this..... this is the final straw for me where WG have really crossed the line and when this patch lands, I will be hanging up my boots. I will continue to follow the CC's I have been following for many years in the hopes that one day WG come to their senses and reverses or fixes what they intend to destroy but I will not be holding my breathe.
Yup. I did this 3 years ago. I guess your pain threshold is greater than mine lol.
I am a closed beta player and the decay for me started the moment they made premium ammo available for creds which disrupted armour and balance as a whole which, imo, caused them to make armour a balanceable stat causing further balance issues.
Add in their unwillingness to nerf premium and reward/special vehicles, WoT has been in a state of decay for at least the past 5 years.
Armored warfare crew skill is very well designed. It’s like a tree. As you level up, you pick 1 of 2 skills on that level. WG is doing something similar in field modifications, but refusing to change crew skills to this system. Unless field mod, this either/or system from armored warfare make you choose what aspect you want to improve, without making the other one worse. It’s has nothing to do with how many crew members you have.
is that game still played? i remember trying it once and it was an ok game.
@@pivkemrzli2297 I haven't played in a long time. Last time I checked, it was still around, but I didn't play.
@@pivkemrzli2297it's a pretty dead game, last played it years ago and never heard from it
armored warfare DEAD wot tooo will
@@pivkemrzli2297 its a turd that you can buy t10 premiums with 100+$, and there are like 10+ bundles. If i remember correctly there is a skin that is 20$ for 1 tank and looks like shit.
There needs to be a cap on a number of skills a crew member has. Something like the WoWs captain. So you don't infinitely improve your crew but you have to make hard choices. Also in WoWs when they change a skill in a major way they give you free skills resets for a patch or two and an ability to reset all your commanders at the same time.
Yes. A hard cap. And the effects per perk need to be HALFED.
there is a slight chance wg had this in mind - but IF, then they failed massively to set it to test and/or communicate their intentions clearly.
And then wot+ is coming around the corner giving you the chance to have 7mio xp to one crew in a year by just paying ... ok, 53mio xp for 9 perks still will take 7+ years from scratch. will the game even exist this time?
All of this could be fixed if WG just capped the skills to 3 or 4, this way you'd actually need to think what skill to take and it would lessen the gap between free to play players and the unicums.
cap is 25 k years of grind :D
I thought exactly the same, hard cap those skills. In this way you have to choose what makes you tank better - fire power, mobility or camo, etc. But we know why WG is doing those changes - to make even more money. They want players to buy boosters, wot +, gold, etc. To get as much OP skills as possible.
Thanks for your "Killing the Future of World of Tanks"-Video. With great power comes great responsibility and you have proven once again, that you are one of the most valuable members of this community! Thank you!
Ha ha ha ha. Wargaming do not understand the concept of responsibility. They also don't fully grasp what power is. To them, money is power, so we should act accordingly and with hold "power" from them.
Funny thing is that in WoWS every single time they change a single captain skill, you would have a grace period of like a week or a month to re-spec your skills... you get this every single time even if the change was minor. But instead in WoT, they revap the whole system, by the core and basically say "hey you can change like 2-3 tank crews, and pay the rest, good luck!" which is absolutely astounding and honestly disguting.
and we even had a option to press a single button to reset ALL the skills on ALL captains
Yes but wot whales are the dumbest of whales and they eagerly await another chance to swipe the card
I legit want to know the actual reason they got to the number of retraining orders of 12. Why 12 and not 10 or 15 or any other number lmao
There was a rework of the commander skills in wows. Supposedly for the same reasons. When the smoke cleared it wasn’t much different. They did give us the ability to reset all our commander with the push of one button. A “universal “ reset. My guess is this what happens in tanks when this drops. I hope 😂
Quicky Baby, I can't say this enough...Thank You, Thank You for spending your hard work and valuable time making this video. It helps an at best Average player like myself to understand the what looks to be inevitable that is happening to WOT. Thank you SO MUCH on your criticisms on World of Tanks even though it pains you to do so since the amount of time and effort you have put in over so many years on this game. I look forward to seeing IF Wargaming actually responds in ANY way shape or form on your video or if you are ignored.
Wouldn't you then train all your crews on the manticore? (well, always the tank with the least members) And then transfer them?
@@chillshock2144 Even if you train all of the crew for the one tank with the most crew members and then transfer them to other tanks in that class that use less crew you will still be penalized for the crew being trained for a different tank.
As it stands now, you can take a tech-tree crew and slot them in to a premium tank without penalty.
If you take a tech-tree crew and slot them in to another tech-tree tank then they get a significant penalty to their skill as they are "unfamiliar" with the new tank.
My 2 cents: we have to be honest with ourselves. If QB is right and unless you don't care about playing well at all... we have to 100% stop paying and probably even playing: the game would become too "pay to win" at this points (also considering WoT + ...).
And even if we have invested time and resources in the game... we _cannot_ get our investment back if the game has nothing left to offer, so we might as well stop wasting time and resources.
The updates do seem really worrying . I’m a wot whale, I’m a middle aged accountant with grown kids, I have money to burn . That being said , I hate pay to win , it cheapens the entire experience for everyone . Free to play players are critical to wot success , you don’t want an inferior experience for anyone . Tanks is the kind of game you may play a few months or years, take a break come back , I don’t know how the game should be fixed , but free play experience matters to me, it’s how I got my Freinds and my cousin to play . It is also healthy for the community. When people can use money to get massive battle advantages , this is bad for,everyone . Please wargaming , focus on the free to play players, give them more , make sure they can compete without feeling handicapped . It better for everyone , good luck all
Copy that. Same here.
Valid argument and reason but probably will fall off to the cliff
Cheers, Qb. WOT is your bread and butter and how you make your living. Your honesty is appreciated. If this all goes through, the game will become a parody of what it once was. The only way for them to listen is that people stop buying in the loot boxes on the markets, etc. Boycott events. And that requires all players of all skill levels to speak up. Otherwise, the entire fun element will disappear from the game. But the sums you did at the end had me laughing. It's insane 😂 And I am never spending money on this game anymore.
I have been calling for this for over 2 years. The player community in WoT has no concept of the power they can wield over Wargaming Arena. As I tell people, if you keep giving them money they will continue to milk the cow. That money stops coming in they will then start to wonder and maybe even reach out and find out why. Boycott's of games, while some people think that is horrible way of changing things, but if you have people not filling the ques, not buying things from the cash store, people not making it worth for all the server equipment as the return on investment now is very small or is a loss, once again a smart company might listen. Of course the best situation is sellout and give the title and license to a company that knows how to manage war games. I have always pointed out of how this game is sort revolving around WWII in your ads, don't put a tank never made like the Chinese rocket tanks at such a low level that they really have an easy time fighting against tanks 20-30 years older (i.e. Tier 6 vs Tier 8). There should not even be Tier 8 vs 10 as most of the 10 tanks were created in some cases in the 60's, where all the lessons from the second WW were learned and new materials, new microchips, etc all make a 1944 tank seem like ancient history.
Players who like this disadvantage fine. Just don't complain after all the money you spend on that t10 premium there is no one to play as players have left. We the players need to start using our wallet and player count to our advantage and start laying down what should be fixed now before any new tank or any other silly system is added. If you keeping paying they will keep ruining the game.
It hurts in such a different way to watch the game you love being torn apart by the devs. As someone who played Star Wars: Galaxies back in the day and the changes they made over the years I can totally relate. I quit WoT years ago and have only popped in every now and then for a quick match just to shake my head and leave.
It's rigged anymore and the pay to win crap is getting old
WG are just farming people like you but haven't left yet. When you are so emotionally invested that they can make you spend loads of money just to get some more matches out of the game, you're just livestock.
It's not the devs. It's the greedy Igor.
I also felt betrayed and left 6 years of progress and haven't been playing since 2 years
I switched to WT to fill the gap, and honestly I've been having more fun, although the Gaijin behaves like WG's 3-4 year-ago version
They're also slightly into p2w area but at least they don't mess up how you play the game every year, rather it's actually improving.
I feel like I'm playing strategically once again, like I was about 4 years ago in WOT.
If anybody would switch I'd recommend Ground Arcade until you learn map positions and weak points (yes, it's still a thing in WT, unlike WOT). Now I'm 7.7 Germany in Realistic mode and I think I got into the solid player base layer, as I play daily
Hello QB, I’ve been playing this game for a couple of years free to play. I was practically forced to buy a $50 tank to make any credits as I did not plan every single thing leading up the tech tree. My highest skill tank, the max 13 105, has 4 skills with zero perk crew; I don’t even have full repairs on it. This update makes me seriously consider quitting the game and cutting my losses as I’ve just been beginning to feel competitive, and now I will be back where I started several YEARS ago. I hope they scale back the changes or at least give avenues to make the game less of a daunting task to begin to understand and play. Thanks for all the work you do, giving the community a voice and educating older and newer players alike, we really appreciate it.
I started playing the game at the beginning, but haven't played in several years, mainly because of the extreme grind to unlock any of the good tanks and get your crew skills. It's not uncommon for it to take 2-3K games to unlock the next crew skill so, anything that lessens the grind and makes the game more interesting is good in my book. I may check the game out again when this comes out.
yeah I started playing as a kid and grinded to tier 10 in multiple lines without premium. by the time I got all these tier 10s I wanted so bad they were completely useless compared to the new stuff they had added.
You might have misunderstood, the grind will become harder and longer to be competitive.
i would claim its way too easy to grind tanks now, i dont know why but i do a 600xp game and somehow get 4000xp on the tank....
@@Half_Finis its the anniversary mission mate, if u get to the top10 players by xp it u get the x5 xp bonus mission, but only limited to 40 completions.
My congratulations to the neardenthal that is just now finishing his crew skills grind 🎉🎉🎉
I feel like quite a lot of the crew skills are just going to be unavailable as they will take too long to grind out. So, only super unicums with 9 million personal training manuals and enough time and patience to grind out 10 skills crews on their cheftains.
I have 2 crews with 6 skills, and that’s only because I dump all of my resources into those 2 crews. My next best crew is only 20% into the 3 skill. They also need to get rid of barracks limits or create a “waiting room” so I can remove crews off a tank and move them to another with needing to have enough free slots to do so. Just don’t allow me to launch a game unless I’ve assigned said crew…
Yep. I've played for 10+ years and have had a premium account for the past 7 probably, and even I will no longer be competitive with these super tanks even in my best crewed tanks
And the part that's even more laughable is that Wargaming to compensate me are giving me 12 crew retrain manuals lol. So I can't even refit my crews to the new changes
The whole thing is such a joke. War gaming got terrible feedback on crew changes last time they tried this, so I guess they decided to say screw it this time and do it anyways
But there will actually only be 1% of the base who will have the ability to go for the super setup. The rest will just keep playing as it were.
And i actually don't think I will feel the big difference in gameplay.
Bad players will still be bad, no matter how many skills they have.
And the player base is bad.
@@jandalgaard3251ore people spend money in this game than you think. Even those who don't spend ridiculous amounts, just the ability to spend some gold and retrain all their crews to fit these new perks will be a massive advantage compared to someone like me who is going to have 2nd loaders stuck with intuition, and other perks that I never would've taken had these been in the game. I and many others are just going to be stuck with inferior or even worthless crew skills (intuition on 2nd loader)
Mate its not even doable to get from almoast 6 skills to 9 on medium tank crew without spending 90% of 100 mln free exp we get in garage for testing xd
Excellently organized and thought out. Finally a QB content with Balls. I completely agree in all points, and I think if WG were to implement the changes QB is suggesting here, it would really make it a positive change for everyone. Another thought could be changing the skills and perks system to be balancing like with field mods, where taking 1 skill/perk would improve that skill at a slight cost of another. This would make it even more diverse.
Therefore, small crew tanks have avantages like good Camo. I Cant compete against manticore with my 5 crew Sheridan. With this crew system, i coule have more perks and rebalance. Same with my tog
Years too late. QB should have condemned WG the moment OBJ 252u came out. I quit the game around that time as I saw no good in a game where the "weak spot" lower plate has the same effective armor as the upper frontal plate of an IS-3.
These two videos of yours about this topic are my two favorites. Lots of passion, and you come off as the most genuine I've ever seen you. GG.
Thanks for all the hard work, Quickybaby. To be honest with you, I have already lose faith with this game a really long time ago. No matter how hard I try to "get good" in this game, I always got over performed by the experienced player. I just play this game once a while during some fun gamemode coming out like the WT E100 event. I hope you'll still like this coming when this update comes to live game.
yeah, the skill ceiling is so high now that even with 12,000 games I had might as well never have played. Meta's are fixed, and instead of shaking things up with new maps and fun things its just been power creep for a decade.
I have played like 30k games and in a casual. Good thing I gave up about 3 or 4 years ago.
QB I can't Even begin to thank you enough for making this video. Very good points. I have 697 tanks in my garage and it's actually a slap in the face to say here are all 12 resets for your crew's it's almost funny. I and I hope more of the community send wg a ticket about this upcoming disaster with the crew skills and voice your opinion. As they say strength in numbers. A single voice can't be heard but 10 thousand voices will be heard around the world of tanks community. I love this game and if they implement this travesty of basically crew 2.0 they have literally just killed the game. Please wg STOP with these changes to the crews you keep trying to force down our throat's.
Thank you QuickyBaby for having the courage to say what needed to be said. I agree with you 100% the crew skill change will be the start of the death spiral for the game.
Really respect your in-depth feedback to WG that not every CC is putting as much time and effort in.
We know well enough that WG doesn't always listen, but you still at least try your best to try and stop WG from ruining what we love.
Fingers crossed!
Lol how often did he adress the massive cheating problem? This is just a distraction from the actual problems
QB, thank you for breaking down all the info for this update - the game has basically been over for me since Equip 2.0 stripped all my equipment from all the tanks I was playing of my over 350 - I only had around 30 mil credits and it would take a couple hundred mil to put equip back on them -
I have 5 Battlepass tanks I have only played 1 mandatory battle in without any equipment on them just for them to register - I also have a bunch of loot box tanks from several years ago that I have not played because I will not waste my resources just to have WG f them up also with something like Crew 2.0 - I just found I had a Tier5 German tank from loot box's (regretted buying the next day) I spent several mil credits to put a crew and equipment only to find I did not have enough crew to play it well like I used to before Equip 2.0 -- I used to play all my off work hours playing this game for many years - I now play around 10 to 15 battles a week if I play at all - I have refused to mention this game to anyone since the RNG was implemented - I call it the fairness policy like they did to on-line poker before US government stopped us from playing for real money about the time I started playing this game - I stopped play Warships when they moved it up from the 7 player base and implemented all the new crap and none of my ships were competitive anymore - I spent over 50K battles grinding for a great tank only to have WG f the tanks up just or after I got it - I have stopped grinding because I know it is a losing battle - I have also stopped playing Battlepass since they took away 1/3 of the resources you earned -
And thank you QB for taking the time and energy to make these kind of videos.
Ну Джов, ну разумист, всё по полочкам разложил
Какой же он, сука, могучий!
А ведь он реально на джова похож
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жов фигня полная в сравнии с автором видео
I was part of the amazing test! Love your work, QB. Thank you so much for all your videos 😍
Yeah, been playing for 10 years. Think this takes the cake for me if it goes in. Maus at 29kph... Badger at 6000 dpm??? good lord. The last good patch for me was update 1.0 with the graphics overhaul. Thanks for giving us entertainment for all these years Quickybabs. You've done a phenomenal job, very thorough and detailed work, very funny and genuine person.
Now imagine a tank like a badger that now also can be even faster. Or a t95 for example, and now even a faster firing gun with even more Alpha.
Excellent review of the patch. However, you may have forgotten another point, if you don't mind. There will be far less diversity of vehicles in a battle due to people just playing their favorite tanks to build up exp on their crews.
i would say not favorite but the op or the chif/obj.279e is what we are gonna se in tier 8-10 (mostly 10 ofc)
Джов в параллельной вселенной
You are absolutely right, wargaming are going up in their a** by implementing these things, thank you for calling them out and telling that it is completely absurd
QB, this is QB at your very BEST as a responsible content provider! Thank you for being the “Guardian Voice” of Wo WG is supposed to take that role, but they have forfeited their responsibility to the longevity of the game & the players for GOLD! Seems WG is dead set on bringing about what they fear the most… The End of WG💥
Sorry, that should read “WoT” not “Wo”
Watch claus kellermann for realizing the real problem of WOT. The professional cheating and boosting companies
Amen to that as a WoT veteran
Wargamming has been killing World of Tanks and World of Warships for the last 5 years. It has been a death of slow cuts.
exactly, tho they killed warships a hell of a lot faster than they did tanks if you ask me
@@hebrewhammer4086 yup, more BS supership, paper ship, submarine, CV rework,, project ship, monthly pass, so on so forth, ah yes hybrid Battleship
My first game I felt in love with. I was 10 when I started playing it... I dont play it these days. Quited 1.5 years ago due to the monetisation in order to be competetive. I dont have the pocket for it. But here and then I always like to check some QBs videos and see how things are going. Sad to hear about these changes...
Quickybaby, thumbs up for the video! I agree what you all have said. If a commander has for example 3 roles you should now start 3 skills simultaneously. All the skills should be reset for free. So you can pick what you want to start first.
Dude.. I think you are the one of the content creators who literally tries to improve and save the future of this game and its community. Your hard work is far beyond of my appreciation. Thanks, million and billion times thanks, to you. You are the man of merit, dignity, truthfulness, you are the best man this cominity ever could have. It's a shame for WG has not been listening your advices comes from your hard brain work for so many years. Maybe its a time to stand up and show WG how serious we are. Maybe its the time to protest this unacceptable behaviours in your streams ( of streamers who shares the same idea wih you, with us) and please, PLEASE do not stop it with a single video. Carry and talk about it in your streams and inform other streamers and players about that and call them to unite against WG. Please orginize all of relevant participants and protest! We are all stand with you. We have not bonds with WG, but you. from Turkey, with love.
That is not even close to true, there are many streamers who do this, DezGamez, Skill4LTU and many more.
@@ragetobe It's good to hear that. I do not know other streamers, but if its so, its good news. It means We have lots of influencer ppl who organize and guide the community. And I changed my statement based on this info.
Well done QB for including the link to the 'feedback page'!
I filled it in just now.
I can't imagine they themselves believe that this new system will promote more variation in playstyles XD
The only variation there will be, will be between those who follow the most optimal training path, those who don't and the sweaty whales who are at the top of the arms race ... .
It is flat out saying: we only care about making as much from the whales as possible and all the other players are just targets for them.
go to wargaming forum and World of Tanks youtube and twitch channels to also comment there
Update: WG has announced they are giving full crew resets now. And it sounds like they are considering the bond equipment aspect of WoT Plus as well. Keep giving feedback everyone!
where they announced?
@@mihai_ender This was mentioned in Tragic's stream last night, I could not find confirmation of it on WGs site myself.
...and right after I post this, I see the Briefing post that confirms it.
@@nciceman9 :))) (me too) they did mentioned today "reset crew perks for free for 30 days until the end of year"
There was a time, when the IS3 and the T29 were awesome tanks. I also had a 10 shot Bulldog Autoloader. I had my favorite tank, the Ferdinand, and I could actually carry games in it. Those days are gone. And I am gone from the game too. WG made it a ridiculous clownfest. I'm flying planes in War Thunder now to kill the time.
My favorite part of this is for the amount it would cost in gold to get the AMX ELC crew maxed with gold, you could probably buy WG itself. I don't see the company being worth over $242 million US but I might be wrong.
You can either make an OP Elc or buy WG and fix the game😂...I love it
Terrific video to highlight the pending decline and perhaps eventual end of WOT, QB! Really appreciate all the time and effort you put into this video along with all your other WOT content on YT. Nothing much to add to what you and the many commenters below have said concerning this abomination of an update on the horizon. After 7+ years, I am very seriously considering voting with my feet and wallet, ie quitting the game. Clearly the evolving WG business model is all about greed and not having a happy customer base with a fun to play game! Makes me wonder if this is part of a master plan to bleed the WOT community dry in the short term and then one day "flip" the switch and turn the servers off while the song "Take the Money and Run" plays at corporate HQ!
it's GOOD that "nobody" can achieve a "full skill setup" crew, this increases skill setup diversity - as intended.
problem is that money can buy crew xp.
Greetings QB, I have been playing since January 2014 and having seen all of the shenanigans that Wargaming has done, I am nearly ready to just hang it up. I have spent many thousands of dollars. This feels so overwhelming a process. Ultimately WG just doesn’t care about the players. We are going to have to speak with our wallets. Again Thank you for your time spent producing this video. Cheers!
I came to this conclusion 3 years ago and quit the game. I feel for you bro.
If you think about it, any of those online games are a waste of time and money. But they are nice on the moment ^^
Thanks for the info QB we appreciate everything you do 🙏💫💯
Stopped playing a couple of months ago, this definitely makes me want to never come back. Decided to finally uninstall the game. Thank you for staying true and real, will continue to watch your content even though i am not playing the game anymore.
I just did the same, tested the changes on common test, got fed up with the game uninstalled noth the CT and the normal game. I do not have the will to play this anymore. It is just not fun :/
A long time ago, Claus Kellerman coined the term "Russian Refund," Well this looks like a "Russian Hand Job."
You know its serious when QB is responding
Lol. How many times did he talk about the game rigging cheater companies and the flood of bots in hightier? He's on WGs payroll and this is just a distraction from the actual problem of the game
@@UnfollowYourDreams you don't need wg money when have good revenue by streaming
@@galichet18 well, he still doesn't talk about the game rigging booster companies at all.
It so sad to really stop playing a game that you started to play 10 years ago because WG is so greedy and not thinking through some things that are not that complicated to notice... RIP WG 😢..... And thank you QB for making this videos to help us see some things more clearly and alway taking your time to do this kind of research ❤😊
war gaming the only winning move is not to play !
If Wargaming was trying to get more of their players to take a look at Warthunder (Which I've heard is at least *less* pay-to-win), they're doing a great job :(
1 hour video about the new crew! Thanks very much
Simple fix for odd-crew compositions.
Give them an experience multiplier for each role they are assigned.
So if your Commander is also a gunner and a radioman they get 3x experience. Doing this would normalize the experience gain per tank regardless of crew size or composition.
Rest in piece in the 50b, it’s got three loaders, how unfortunate
You hit the nail on the head. Before, it was pay to win but only marginally. Now, as a very average player who has grinded years to get a few four and five skill crews, while being willing to buy the premium bs, this is going to make me feel like jumping on pc from blitz. It was the same game but it wasn't. And this is a much more dramatic change. In fact, it will make me stop playing the game. Crazy how that works.
THIS is one of the reasons I've been a subscriber for all these years and tipped from time to time! Thanks QB!
The skill xp cost slashing and full skill reset also went through my head as the best way to go, as the decision to give only 12 retraining orders is a mockery.
Let's get this thing trending lads ! If we want to save this this needs more attention
You can't save it.
@@XxthetanklordxX but you can help putting money out of wg's pockets...hit them where it hurts, one way is by telling people not to spend a dime
BIllionaires in the 20th Century: Look at my 250m Yacht.
Billionaires in the 21th Century: Look at my 21 skill Crew on my AMX ELC.
Wait so, if Jack of All Trades reduces the chance of Commander Injury by 30%, and Call for Vengeance reduces Radio Operator Injury chance by 30%. Does that mean Commanders that double up as Radio Operators (Manticore) will now have a 60% reduction to chance of injury
Knowing WG it'll just be 30% then. I can bet.
retty much yeah - lol
I don't think I support the idea that all of these perks are necessary. What I think is that now there are options, now you pick which ones you want to tweak the tank in specific ways. This could create more diversity in how tanks are played, different players prioritizing different things. Now because it takes huge amounts of exp to get past 6 skill crews that means that not many people will even have the option to take all of these "necessary" perks. If you want to make a crazy dpm build you can, but you wont be able to take the utility/defensive options.
And then you start playing good and figure out 99% of tanks need bia, repair/camo and then anything that helps you with offense.
Which means most of new skills are mandatory plus old buffed ones now also become mandatory too
I think we should have a skill cap. Each crew member can only pick 3-4 crew skills out of the total. That will force players to go for a build rather then sweaty players getting everything
Yes!! This.
That would still give a disadvantage to tanks with low amount of crew if you limit their skill cap
That didn’t work well on console wot but I don’t hate it
@@gagekrumlauf8198 why didnt it work
@elitere-classtsudzurao4421 it would create the same situation as now but people will have more options to choose.
@gagekrumlauf8198 I was not aware that wot console did this.
If WG is dead set on introducing this, a full global crew skill reset of all crewes for everyone NEEEEDDS to be mandatory. People will still spend money on resetting skills once they realize they chose the wrong kills and perks.
Thanks for your video and advocacy for newer players. There are so many problems with the proposed changes and even others in the recent past. This one seems to be so over the top that it is hard to understand where there is any reasonableness in WG's decision-makers. Even a huge amount of free resets would, only very slightly, mitigate the damage this will cause.
“Wait, it’s all pay to win?”
“Always has been”
you have convinced me to leave World of Tanks. I had 2 years of good fun but i did notice xmas time the game was becoming crazy losing streaks were starting to get more and more. Lots of bots and people cheating. I dont like the game as much as i did b4. Watching this video which is Awesome has got me thinking time to stop playing WOT. thank you Will i still watch you on Twitch and TH-cam awesome to watch you Cheers
Hey KaboomGotcha not see you stream on Twitch for a while❤
Try warthunder
Bros condemning a man to go to a dumpster fire from another dumpster fire
I thought the idea was to adopt the WoWs skill system where the skills are bought with points and the max number of points a commander can have is limited, which forces you to actually pick skills and prevents you from having everything on every ship. Still hoping that is the objective, but if they go with this version it's gonna hurt the game to the point it might not matter when further refining change comes
Just some thoughts from my side: maybe WG tried to balance the system by making it impossible for the whales to get all the skills, so you really have to think which one you want to take and cause you can't take all and it would provide you a to large benefit above other players by having them all.
But on the other hand I still think this new system is pretty bad, but I rly liked your ideas how to improve the system. To get 3 skills to train on your Manti while having earned the amount of XP for one, it would really help the tanks with high pressure and wouldn't even make it unbalanced
Your point isn't stupid, but overall the whales will have a stronger advantage than before, because they will have to choose less...
@@GerardMenvussa you're right, I only felt like QB didn't really mentioned this point in the video
@@besterpfortes6686 he said the whales will create super crews and thats true unless WG stops them...
Fair argument but at that point why not add a cap to how many skills you can have? Make crews easier to grind (say 3 months to get the maximum amount of skills), allow crews to be used on like 2-3 tanks and leave the skills as strong as they have made them in 1.20.1 .
That actually forces you to make a choice and isn't just a race at who nerds/spends the most to have more skills which give a very big advantage.
@@nicolasmariotti I am new to the game 5k games like 8 years ago, 6k fot the last 9 months. To be honest there is neccesity to balance the crew 2.0 changes. Either to limit the number of skills and perks or offer new player faster way to get the crews trained to the acceptable level and somehow tweak the speed of training fortanks with a small crew. If they can solve those things, I see the changes as very good, as they offer more variety. U will have the opportunity to spec your tank much more to your taste. Now is more or less the same for all. I like the idea to have the same tank with different setup and so different gameplay. But as I said, u need to have limited number of skills for a crew in the first place...
i first played in 2014 remember it being quite fun, and i didnt have to catch up much with the current meta inside wot. then i took a 4 year break due to life and nows theres modules? and equipment? it took me a little while to eventually catch up and now im being hit with another curve-ball. If wargaming releases any or most of these features its pretty safe to say that me and my clan will no longer be playing, it was fun whilst it lasted. Thanks QB.
Thanks QB for outlining things. I have been playing for 8+ years and been happy for some changes but disappointed by many more. Over the last year I have been playing the other tank game, which until recently, have only dabbled in. I have been looking to come back but others complaints of how it has changed in just the last year have left me questioning this. With the upcoming changes here, sadly, it's looking unlikely. I have NA and EU accounts and a good clan, don't really want to go. The other tank game has it's issues too, but now that I have gotten good at it, I'm enjoying much more. 😥
Thank you QB for standing up for us regular players.
I sincerely hope they listen but I won't hold my breath.
What they should do is only have the highest value be accounted for.
Ive been playing since the beginning, and while I do like the idea of the new skills, I hate HATE the cost of it and how much grinding / money it will cost. They should get rid of crew XP and just let you pick 5 skills per role, active based on the level of tank you are in. i.e. Tier 5 you get 1 skill per role, tier 6 2 skill, etc up to tier 10 and 5 skills.
A very well presented overview of this latest WOT update with our years of experience and professional opinions; cheers QB
Dude, all respect to you, its been a blast playing and watching you on youtube, unfortunately, im pretty sure they know EXACTLY, what are they doing, and that is exactly their aim so, all must end sooner or later.
After WoT Console was *BUTCHERED* (1.6), the PC WoT version gets also finally put into the *SLAUGHTERHOUSE*
Thank you QB. This was painful but oh so important! I feel doom.
A well thought out video. Completely agree with your opinion on this update. If Wargaming Doesn't listen to it's top youtube creator then there's no hope for the future of this game.
What if they capped the total amount of crewskills a tank can have (not per crew but per tank(but then they also make the skills for all crews just in one crew (like bia repairs
They effectively have as no one will spend 190million to get all skills. By making so hard to get skills, skill choice from a limited selection will be a skill.
@@stevedotrsa I think what he is saying is have the same amount of XP required for a Manticore to have 12 skills as a Maus to have 12 skills. Which would make sense tbh because low crew tanks (ie lights) are already so fucking dog shit compared to heavies that there needs to be a change.
Haven't uninstalled WoT but have installed War Thunder, oh boy, great Tank fun, catastrophic scenes where Tanks duel on the ground and planes chase each other in the sky, despite one shot kills, it's waaay less frustrating, more fun and most importantly, beginning Ranks are really fun too, plus better graphics, sounds and physics. Hope to see you guys over there!
far better
Hi QB! Im Lukas from the training map you did on your live yesterday (your loyal sacrifice offer and friendly Maus from the testserver) and i just wanna say thank you for letting me have a fun, 1 and half hour with you! It is absurd how WG think this is a good update or even okay. Im a free to play player myself and im gonna have a hard time cuz most of my crews are only 2-3 crew skills. Not only are they making it harder for free to play players but also the clan wars cuz nobody want a member with only 5-7 crew skills now. Free to play with only 2-3 crew skills are gunna suffer and most likely be unplayable game if they update the game like this. Thank you for hopefully doing something against WG and standing up for all of us who thinks this is a shit update. Also just wanted to say massive thanks to you for letting me play with you, it was super fun!
I think what WG is trying to do is parallel all the WoT iterations to be the same; i.e. mobile, PC, etc. Is this a good idea? Hell no, but I've been trying to figure WTF they're trying to do with all this and that's my current Hypothesis. Nothing else really makes sense unless they're actively sabotaging the game so everyone leaves so they can fold it up and close it down with as little fuss as possible.
Edit: also, first time I've ever hit a QB vid first. Maybe I should go buy a lottery ticket...
The most critical crew skill balancing factor in Blitz is having crew sizes be irrelevant, which would have been very good at relieving the pressure on low crew tanks, they aren't ding that at all.
QB, make a poll asking how many players would quit if these changes are implemented. Would be interesting to see.
Im not playing for a month, i dont want to spend and retrain my crew just for WG to make a balance patch that fucks it all up again lol
No-one will quit
Well done QB. Excellent analysis. I kitted out my is7 on test server before and after and to a new crew 6 skilled. Difference is staggering