Mortefi has a way faster rotation than Roccia, even Zhezhi is faster than her if you do the forte cancel. There should be a way to optimize her rotation just like the players found a way to optimize Zhezhi's with the release of Carlotta.
Skill issue lol. If you know how to cancel her Forte Resonance Skill by either dodge or jump, you can cut her rotation into basically ~4 seconds. Any Zhezhi sub DPS that takes more than 4 seconds is a player issue not Zhezhi. But you do you lol. Keep pushing your agenda that Roccia (6s) is faster than Zhezhi.
I love her gameplay so much! I think gameplay-wise and the way how smooth her combo is, she might be in the top well-made characters so far. Especially including how good her grouping is!
In just a few seconds of field time, Roccia: Dealt roughly 160~170k dmg Grouped enemies like no one else in the game can Buffed the next resonator with atk, Havoc and basic atk dmg And people still compare her with Sanhua all the time just because of the Outro skill, as if it was a perfect replacement
I can still use the same team but Danjin or Sanhua as buffers, for me Roccia is not a must pull but having her would be better for additional DMG. (Though I would actually pull for her if I have Camellya)
Pretty sure everyone acknowledges Roccia is an upgrade over sanhua in the Rover team and Camellya team. However, it is marginal, and Sanhua is already great for those teams and easily obtainable. People are just pulling cause they like her character or fun factor (or just wanting to play someone else besides sanhua lol)… More power to them. Pull whoever you enjoy playing in your teams.
She really fits as the Sub-DPS for Havoc Rover especially since liberation is very short range she really fixes it with her crowd control not to mention + Buff too
Pretty sad that Roccia and Brant are not meant for each other as a team, i was low expecting for a team similar to Cerberus in PGR but they still do slap hard, now My Havoc can carry "more" with Roccia if i get her
If you wanna enjoy some quickswapping potential, try swapping during her E, then swapping back while she's still floating. It's very fun to do, but can be disorienting.
People need to play a bit to form the muscle memory and get accustomed to different rotations depending on boss attacks, she'll feel very natural to use and combo, as she can easily swap at different times when needed.
mannn I would kill for you to just coach me in this game 😭😭 I know I have the characters and maybe the builds for floor 12 stuff but can never do it.. watching you inspires me to get better but man do I just have no idea what to do
thanks for sharing this! interesting to know that her intro fills up a bar of her forte and skips to BA4 and BA5 fully recharges a bar have you tried lorelei as her main echo and what do you think about 44111 for her and lastly, how would you compare between roccia, danjin, and sanhua? TIA!
@@edgewalker00 The nightmare heron is better if you're going to run midnight veil on her. Most (if not almost entirely) of her damage is considered as heavy attack and the heron give a 12% heavy attack bonus. About the other question: 44111 should be a decent option if you're not going to pull for her weapon, but in that case and with all honesty, then use Sanhua. She's faster, easier to play, easier to build and the damage difference on Camellya isn't that high (it's pretty close, in fact).
@@wildcrown340Ela seria melhor em casos onde o personagem tem o dano espalhado, como camellya é quase full atk básico a diferença não é tão visível...
I actually swapped out my Dreamless for Nightmare Crownless on my Havoc Rover. I think the 12% BA and Havoc Dmg buffs, along with a faster, more versatile echo skill that does very similar damage to Dreamless (even if cast 6s after Res. Lib.) greatly outweighs the damage you can get from Dreamless. I’d be quite interested if someone’s done the math, I’m just too stupid and lazy to do it myself.
Danjin is still a viable option for hrover but from what i can see, roccia is a very good way for hrover to unleash their ultimate potential, their dmg is better but danjin will still suffice as wuwa doesn't have a powercreep just play for whoever you like
Danjin has nothing to envy her (except the grouping), but if you're looking for a lightning speed rotation for Fallacy's floor, Sanhua is the best option.
Wouldn't it be better to use HRover's liberation right after entering dark surge to get the havoc resistance shred right away? Or does the 10% from the heavy attack and the 10% more from liberation not stack?
What makes you think so? Most of Roccia's damage comes from heavy attack damage which is why nightmare heron would be more suitable, while Lorelei gives you basic attack damage bonus. @@ComfyPyjamas
She is good but her performance is barely an upgrade to Sanhua, I'm sorry but I will have to get her on rerun. They really mess her up, should have given her buff longer duration, her rotation is longer and she require intro unlike Sanhua yet her number is barely higher, AoE is sadly rarely an issue, Camellya herself have big AoE in her attack, her buff is almost identical, her echo set is barely an upgrade, in some calc it is even worse than moonlit by 1-2%, the difference is minimal at best, new player better craft 44111 moonlit to use it on all support character. So grinding her echo is a waste of time, her weapon don't have any buff capabilities and since her personal damage is low it ends up not matter Saving for Changli and her weapon, might pull for Phoebe and Brant as well maybe, I have 160 pull rn Edit: My HRover+Sanhua+shorekeeper run on last floor is about 1:30 as well and I wasn't trying, could probably get 1:20 or less? Sigh
her rotation is pretty fast, not sanhua fast, but way faster than most support like Zhezhi or even Mortefi
I dunno about Mortefi. his is around same but he can be quickswaped more.
What were you smoking, Zhezhi is only slow in 1st rotation, after that she just intro swap intro r eee holdq swap
Mortefi has a way faster rotation than Roccia, even Zhezhi is faster than her if you do the forte cancel.
There should be a way to optimize her rotation just like the players found a way to optimize Zhezhi's with the release of Carlotta.
Zhezhi isn't slow, what zhezhi are you even playing
Skill issue lol. If you know how to cancel her Forte Resonance Skill by either dodge or jump, you can cut her rotation into basically ~4 seconds.
Any Zhezhi sub DPS that takes more than 4 seconds is a player issue not Zhezhi. But you do you lol. Keep pushing your agenda that Roccia (6s) is faster than Zhezhi.
I love her gameplay so much!
I think gameplay-wise and the way how smooth her combo is, she might be in the top well-made characters so far. Especially including how good her grouping is!
In just a few seconds of field time, Roccia:
Dealt roughly 160~170k dmg
Grouped enemies like no one else in the game can
Buffed the next resonator with atk, Havoc and basic atk dmg
And people still compare her with Sanhua all the time just because of the Outro skill, as if it was a perfect replacement
I can still use the same team but Danjin or Sanhua as buffers, for me Roccia is not a must pull but having her would be better for additional DMG. (Though I would actually pull for her if I have Camellya)
Pretty sure everyone acknowledges Roccia is an upgrade over sanhua in the Rover team and Camellya team. However, it is marginal, and Sanhua is already great for those teams and easily obtainable. People are just pulling cause they like her character or fun factor (or just wanting to play someone else besides sanhua lol)… More power to them. Pull whoever you enjoy playing in your teams.
@@nik_senpaifor me I can only do with Roccia on Rover's team. Sanhua and Danjin don't do many buffs like her and; also they do less damage
I love your Rotation. Very smooth and easy to follow, yet accounts for everything that Havoc Rover and Roccia needs to fill concerto. Amazing showcase
She really fits as the Sub-DPS for Havoc Rover especially since liberation is very short range she really fixes it with her crowd control not to mention + Buff too
Lmao even the music feels Italian
Absolute MAMMA MIA
Omega strikers OST. Just amazing. Good choice nice vid!
Omega Strikers OST 🔥🔥🔥
Also great showcase!
Pretty sad that Roccia and Brant are not meant for each other as a team, i was low expecting for a team similar to Cerberus in PGR but they still do slap hard, now My Havoc can carry "more" with Roccia if i get her
Female Rover mentioned 🫨🫶
btw u can cancel the skill by dodge and go straight to plunging
damn it done better dps than my XY + Yinlin
Momma Mia!
Niceeeee!!!!!
If you wanna enjoy some quickswapping potential, try swapping during her E, then swapping back while she's still floating. It's very fun to do, but can be disorienting.
People need to play a bit to form the muscle memory and get accustomed to different rotations depending on boss attacks, she'll feel very natural to use and combo, as she can easily swap at different times when needed.
mannn I would kill for you to just coach me in this game 😭😭 I know I have the characters and maybe the builds for floor 12 stuff but can never do it.. watching you inspires me to get better but man do I just have no idea what to do
thanks for sharing this! interesting to know that her intro fills up a bar of her forte and skips to BA4 and BA5 fully recharges a bar
have you tried lorelei as her main echo and what do you think about 44111 for her and lastly, how would you compare between roccia, danjin, and sanhua? TIA!
@@edgewalker00 The nightmare heron is better if you're going to run midnight veil on her. Most (if not almost entirely) of her damage is considered as heavy attack and the heron give a 12% heavy attack bonus.
About the other question: 44111 should be a decent option if you're not going to pull for her weapon, but in that case and with all honesty, then use Sanhua. She's faster, easier to play, easier to build and the damage difference on Camellya isn't that high (it's pretty close, in fact).
@@wildcrown340Ela seria melhor em casos onde o personagem tem o dano espalhado, como camellya é quase full atk básico a diferença não é tão visível...
I actually swapped out my Dreamless for Nightmare Crownless on my Havoc Rover.
I think the 12% BA and Havoc Dmg buffs, along with a faster, more versatile echo skill that does very similar damage to Dreamless (even if cast 6s after Res. Lib.) greatly outweighs the damage you can get from Dreamless. I’d be quite interested if someone’s done the math, I’m just too stupid and lazy to do it myself.
Mamamia
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The world~ (hello) is your stage. 🎉
I wish my Shorekeeper does 12k per proc of her intro 😞 mine only does 6k
How does she feel compared to Danjin? Tempted to get her but i'm on the fence since I don't want to get her signature + I don't have verity's handle.
Danjin is still a viable option for hrover but from what i can see, roccia is a very good way for hrover to unleash their ultimate potential, their dmg is better but danjin will still suffice as wuwa doesn't have a powercreep just play for whoever you like
Roccia does almost double the damage of Danjin (if you play Danjin half forte). But full DPS idk.
seems like her main selling point is the grouping. Most ToA nowdays have some annoyng trash mobs that ungroup
always full forte danjin
Danjin has nothing to envy her (except the grouping), but if you're looking for a lightning speed rotation for Fallacy's floor, Sanhua is the best option.
Wouldn't it be better to use HRover's liberation right after entering dark surge to get the havoc resistance shred right away? Or does the 10% from the heavy attack and the 10% more from liberation not stack?
they use havoc rover ult last, to get more damage on dreamless
Is it possible to compare Rocha and s6 Danjin and s6 Sanha under Rover? Especially with Danjin, they say there is no point in spinning Rocha at all
Wait, so burst dmg bonus not important for hmc? how?
Is it me or my nightmare heron desc says it increase skill and not HA dmg ?
I dunno why people use it on her either. Loreliis better for Roccia
its u (and someone), idk i just see my nightmare heron 12% havoc + 12 HA
There's a bug actually that it shows alternate bonuses....
Check the normal info given against detailed info given for the echo
Thanks for the info
What makes you think so? Most of Roccia's damage comes from heavy attack damage which is why nightmare heron would be more suitable, while Lorelei gives you basic attack damage bonus. @@ComfyPyjamas
camelia + sanhua = basic att team. rover + roccia = havoc demage team
Would you say Roccia is a big upgrade from Sanhua for Camellya?
She is good but her performance is barely an upgrade to Sanhua, I'm sorry but I will have to get her on rerun.
They really mess her up, should have given her buff longer duration, her rotation is longer and she require intro unlike Sanhua yet her number is barely higher, AoE is sadly rarely an issue, Camellya herself have big AoE in her attack, her buff is almost identical, her echo set is barely an upgrade, in some calc it is even worse than moonlit by 1-2%, the difference is minimal at best, new player better craft 44111 moonlit to use it on all support character. So grinding her echo is a waste of time, her weapon don't have any buff capabilities and since her personal damage is low it ends up not matter
Saving for Changli and her weapon, might pull for Phoebe and Brant as well maybe, I have 160 pull rn
Edit: My HRover+Sanhua+shorekeeper run on last floor is about 1:30 as well and I wasn't trying, could probably get 1:20 or less? Sigh
How did u lvl her up so fast ?
Saved up the upgrade mats and shell credits over the past few weeks, I guess