I guarantee from the day Eglinton crosstown opens, within a few months it'll be suffering from overcrowding. The fact Sheppard will have a complete subway from Sheppard West to potentially Morningside, while Toronto's main east west midtown route will have a glorified streetcar is absolutely hilarious. This should have been a subway from day one. A city like Toronto can't rely on "LRTs"...yes the streetcars can be used as a feeder system, but Eglinton is going to prove LRTs simply can't work in a city like Toronto. The problems with Eglinton aren't ending, they're only beginning.
man if Mike Harris didn’t let the construction of a tunnel at Eglinton West be filled in even if the line was cancelled, the Crosstown would’ve been a subway with these major grade separation and having smaller tunnels. Funny that a store in Eglinton Square for wall designs for a subway stations that will never get built in Scarborough while also having served by almost three surface stops. That weird island in between O’Connor, Eglinton, and Victoria Park would’ve been a perfect bus interchange station
So the plaza at Mt Dennis for the unopened line, is being ripped up, so that they can build the extension of an unopened line. You literally can't make this shit up...
The true start date of this mess was in the mid-90's when then-premier Harris cancelled the Eglinton subway - I remember driving around a series of holes that were already dug for that project which is really this project.
@@XandateOfHeaven Thanks for that info - there's also the mess called Hwy. 407 - Harris basically gave it to the builder and that's why tolls are too high to get most drivers to use it instead of Hwy 401.
@@XandateOfHeaven @morganjo2002 Harris truly was the worst. 30 years later, we're STILL being negatively effected by his bullshit. Politics matters, people. Next to go must be slug ford.
@@EVIL-CAnd now he’s chairman of long term care homes.. shutting public options and super charging private care homes so that boomers won’t have any money to pass onto their kids.
there has been signage going up announcing that the bus route changes for this line are taking effect soon, hopefully this indicates we're approaching that last 3 month window
Unpopular opinion: The eastern surface portion of the line should probably be shut down at some point in the future if it proves too slow and rebuilt fully grade separated with some of the close stops being removed (IE: Hakimi-Lebovic).
Not unpopular, logical. The surface section in Scarborough could be as slow as Spadina streetcars. I just don't understand why the city REFUSES to give the TTC signal priority, when this section should be rapid and not running at turtle neck speed.
@@nanaokyere7141 Thanks. I used to ride the Eglinton bus on that portion, the bus was so slow and the new LRT will probably be nearly as slow as the bus. The people in that area deserve rapid transit.
This is embarrassing and disgraceful. Only in this country do you see this kind of rubbish planning and construction that what we call the third world is excelling at. Fantastic video you put together. Keep up this amazing work. Its better than what our 'experts' are capable of doing
We NEED to protest this line ASAP. No more delays or excuses. Also, when this line opens, they need to fire the CEO of Metrolinx, Phil Verster. We've been waiting 14 YEARS and in that same time span, his pay has gone up SIGNIFICANTLY. Ridiculous and insulting.
By the way the only subway project that was completed on time and under budget was the Sheppard line… completed by TTC only.. no private contractors in charge.
It's insane the time it's taking to build this thing. Montreal did 70 kilometers and double the station, and two-thirds are already in service. They started at the same time.
I don’t understand why on the surface the transit signal turns red before regular traffic light and does that mean partial TSP will just make it more or less the same frequency as the regular light
Because of national and provincial security, the opening date of the first section of Line 5 is withheld, unless you have the needed security clearance.
Thank you very much Transitthinker. I’m really grateful for your videos. Q: Any idea when construction will start on the the GO station at Caledonia? Is there a commitment to building it?
There is no accountability, and therefore no repercussions for the lack of transparency. This project is a cash cow for some lucky people who aren't in any way incentivized to hasten the completion.
But, good lifetime employment for a lucky few! I expect that people who were apprentices when the project started will be able to retire from it, never having worked anywhere else!
The Eglinton Crosstown Light Rail Transit Network has now taken over a decade to complete. Line 1 subway system which is longer was completed in only 8 years and is 8.3 km in length and its operational. Metrolinx is taking the city and the province for all it can get in money. Expect an increase in transit fares for the Greater Toronto Area.
I don't think you can confidently assert that the surface section of line 5 will be faster than the bus it's replacing. Finch West is now expected to be just as fast as the bus on that corridor was before construction started, of course with half as many stops, dedicated lanes, and signal priority, which are all lacking for the bus. And in general, surface trams have a pretty hard average speed limit of 19km/h, with very few systems exceeding that value
Doug Ford ran an entire election campaign where none of the PC candidates were allowed to talk to the press or their constituents. He ran with no platform, no promises besides lowering the gas tax, and didn’t talk to anyone. I think the lack of transparency is here to stay.
Should have been completely underground and used trains, Torontos planners are country bumpkins with no idea what type of infrastructure is required🤦🏾♂️
They have been testing the trains for over a year now but nobody can ride them yet because that little piece of sidewalk 50ft away from the trains on the other side of the street needs to be dug up and rebuilt every couple of weeks. People just can't ride the train if that little piece of sidewalk is just not right
One thing that hasn’t changed is it still hasn’t opened after 5 years over its planned opening and the fact we have no clue why it hasn’t opened or when it will open.
We Canadians are so naive when we criticize others' country on " corruption," "Africa countries, China, Vietnam, etc... But at home, Canada here... we " harbor " all kinds of corruptions. This Ellington Cross town LRT and many more constructions are where the corruptions taken places, right in front of your eyes
Public money sitting there for years. By the time we use it its time to be renovated and updated. Open up at least some of the grass areas outside and sitting areas inside for the public that funded it.
This video shows a lot of bike lanes, which have become controversial lately. Doug Ford is getting rid of them. I think it is still too early to decide this. Covid-19 has changed transportation usage since about 2020. That's only four years ago -- not enough to evaluate long term effects.
The bike lanes on Eglinton didn’t affect car traffic because there hasn’t been any significant car traffic on Eglinton for 10 years. The Crosstown construction made it impractical for anyone to drive on Eglinton.
Some parts of phase 1 are already starting to look run down. It's so ridiculous. Don't we pay private companies like this SPECIFICALLY because they're supposed to have prior experience and avoid these kind of delays?
NORTH AMERICA/CANADA, reason for “SLOWER BUILS, IS CORRUPTION!” Also “NO CHARGES FOR DELAY OF COMPLETION!” CHINA would have completed MANY-MANY KILOMETRES IN JUST A FEW MONTHS. WHY?
This project is a complete embarrassment to all Torontonians, many years late, billions over budget and still inoperable. The same applies to the new and also inoperable Finch LRT. Meanwhile the same obviously incompetent provincially owned contractor Metrolinx has started building the subway extension known as the Ontario line. This project is already over budget and expected to be years late. How do we get out of the circle of incompetence? Firing Premier Doug Ford at the next election would be a good place to start.
The British & French built th chunnel 50.46km under the English channel in only 6 years. The Eglinton LRT is shorter and has already taken twice as long. Someone needs to be fired, Metrolinx is a total waste.
I guarantee from the day Eglinton crosstown opens, within a few months it'll be suffering from overcrowding. The fact Sheppard will have a complete subway from Sheppard West to potentially Morningside, while Toronto's main east west midtown route will have a glorified streetcar is absolutely hilarious. This should have been a subway from day one. A city like Toronto can't rely on "LRTs"...yes the streetcars can be used as a feeder system, but Eglinton is going to prove LRTs simply can't work in a city like Toronto.
The problems with Eglinton aren't ending, they're only beginning.
pretty sure the narrator was 2 years old when they started building this thing.
when the narrator retire. The project will still be on going
This needs to hurry up and open.
Ok
It still hasn't opened? I thought it was opened 2 years ago?? Was there corruption?
man if Mike Harris didn’t let the construction of a tunnel at Eglinton West be filled in even if the line was cancelled, the Crosstown would’ve been a subway with these major grade separation and having smaller tunnels.
Funny that a store in Eglinton Square for wall designs for a subway stations that will never get built in Scarborough while also having served by almost three surface stops. That weird island in between O’Connor, Eglinton, and Victoria Park would’ve been a perfect bus interchange station
Kennedy’s looking great. also excited to see how eglinton west, and eglinton Yonge end up looking
TheRandcrews
You’re a Jackass
Line 5 will open when our grandkids have grandkids.
True!!!
So the plaza at Mt Dennis for the unopened line, is being ripped up, so that they can build the extension of an unopened line. You literally can't make this shit up...
You really can't.
But metrolinx can.
They took so long that they had created a better route in the time they wasted 😂😂😂😂 construction will never end in Ontario 😂😭
@@thefellows8484😂
The true start date of this mess was in the mid-90's when then-premier Harris cancelled the Eglinton subway - I remember driving around a series of holes that were already dug for that project which is really this project.
Jesus Christ, I remember when Mike Harris closed my elementary School decades ago. I can't believe we're still dealing with his bullshit.
@@XandateOfHeaven Thanks for that info - there's also the mess called Hwy. 407 - Harris basically gave it to the builder and that's why tolls are too high to get most drivers to use it instead of Hwy 401.
@@XandateOfHeaven @morganjo2002 Harris truly was the worst. 30 years later, we're STILL being negatively effected by his bullshit. Politics matters, people. Next to go must be slug ford.
@@morganjo2002 Harris truly was the worst.
@@EVIL-CAnd now he’s chairman of long term care homes.. shutting public options and super charging private care homes so that boomers won’t have any money to pass onto their kids.
Thanks for the update, Jamie. Another well done video. Line 5 looks solid, just frustrating it still isn't opened yet for people to use.
Great video! been waiting for an update for a while.
Shocking that no one will be held responsible for this mess
Doug Ford and his corruption team will make sure nobody gets touched or be held responsible for this for sure.
The notif dropped right as I was thinking of this 😂
there has been signage going up announcing that the bus route changes for this line are taking effect soon, hopefully this indicates we're approaching that last 3 month window
Where did you see this
Thanks for the video! Very detailed and comprehensive.
Great, we can look forward to this extension opening in 2075.
Thank you for making this update video
At the rate they're going, the Toronto Maple Leafs might win the Stanley Cup before this opens...
Now you're going too far.
Lol.
@@geofflepper3207 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Unpopular opinion: The eastern surface portion of the line should probably be shut down at some point in the future if it proves too slow and rebuilt fully grade separated with some of the close stops being removed (IE: Hakimi-Lebovic).
Not unpopular, logical. The surface section in Scarborough could be as slow as Spadina streetcars. I just don't understand why the city REFUSES to give the TTC signal priority, when this section should be rapid and not running at turtle neck speed.
@@nanaokyere7141 Thanks. I used to ride the Eglinton bus on that portion, the bus was so slow and the new LRT will probably be nearly as slow as the bus. The people in that area deserve rapid transit.
Extremely informative and well done video!
This is embarrassing and disgraceful. Only in this country do you see this kind of rubbish planning and construction that what we call the third world is excelling at. Fantastic video you put together. Keep up this amazing work. Its better than what our 'experts' are capable of doing
"Corruption"
Your video was informative and useful. Than you
Ive been waiting since i was born
Hey TT Great video. Soon Maybe soon it will be finished
We NEED to protest this line ASAP. No more delays or excuses. Also, when this line opens, they need to fire the CEO of Metrolinx, Phil Verster. We've been waiting 14 YEARS and in that same time span, his pay has gone up SIGNIFICANTLY. Ridiculous and insulting.
When does the city expects to award the West Expansion? Is WestEx consortium the same group that is constructing the East portion?
When is this blanking thing opening!
The project that never ends.
It just goes on and on my friend
this line started construction in year 2011. I'd be very happy if this rail start operating in year 2111.
By the way the only subway project that was completed on time and under budget was the Sheppard line… completed by TTC only.. no private contractors in charge.
You should check out the Finch west LRT
All these 15 stations are near the finish line
Looking forward to my ashes being carried on the inaugural run!
Quick summary: no progress yet but check with us in 5 years time. Thank you and have a great day.
It's insane the time it's taking to build this thing. Montreal did 70 kilometers and double the station, and two-thirds are already in service. They started at the same time.
will open just before the world ends
I don’t understand why on the surface the transit signal turns red before regular traffic light and does that mean partial TSP will just make it more or less the same frequency as the regular light
Because of national and provincial security, the opening date of the first section of Line 5 is withheld, unless you have the needed security clearance.
What map are you using for the video? It looks cool with future line plans and wayfinding standards
Working on a more major future map of the Toronto area, used part of it for the video
Thank you very much Transitthinker. I’m really grateful for your videos.
Q: Any idea when construction will start on the the GO station at Caledonia? Is there a commitment to building it?
Currently I think the plan is to add a single platform soon, double tracking, and the second platform will happen later
Brother I pray that we are not waiting for the left extensions to open
Ah 14 years and still not done
There is no accountability, and therefore no repercussions for the lack of transparency.
This project is a cash cow for some lucky people who aren't in any way incentivized to hasten the completion.
But, good lifetime employment for a lucky few! I expect that people who were apprentices when the project started will be able to retire from it, never having worked anywhere else!
The Eglinton Crosstown Light Rail Transit Network has now taken over a decade to complete. Line 1 subway system which is longer was completed in only 8 years and is 8.3 km in length and its operational. Metrolinx is taking the city and the province for all it can get in money. Expect an increase in transit fares for the Greater Toronto Area.
I don't think you can confidently assert that the surface section of line 5 will be faster than the bus it's replacing. Finch West is now expected to be just as fast as the bus on that corridor was before construction started, of course with half as many stops, dedicated lanes, and signal priority, which are all lacking for the bus. And in general, surface trams have a pretty hard average speed limit of 19km/h, with very few systems exceeding that value
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I really hope the lack of transparency on metrolinx's side is just a one-time thing
Doug Ford ran an entire election campaign where none of the PC candidates were allowed to talk to the press or their constituents. He ran with no platform, no promises besides lowering the gas tax, and didn’t talk to anyone. I think the lack of transparency is here to stay.
It takes so many years to build a subway in a big city. So interesting😂
Should have been completely underground and used trains, Torontos planners are country bumpkins with no idea what type of infrastructure is required🤦🏾♂️
Could we just force the damn line to open??? Its more finished then line 1 and 2.
Now scheduled to open in 2038
GOOD RIDDENCE to Verster!! What an absolute EMBARRASSMENT! The fact that FORD said what he did about him----TRULY says a LOT about FORD!!
They have been testing the trains for over a year now but nobody can ride them yet because that little piece of sidewalk 50ft away from the trains on the other side of the street needs to be dug up and rebuilt every couple of weeks. People just can't ride the train if that little piece of sidewalk is just not right
One thing that hasn’t changed is it still hasn’t opened after 5 years over its planned opening and the fact we have no clue why it hasn’t opened or when it will open.
Tracks are sinking at Yonge Stn
@ Can you provide a little more detail?
So this video only serves to taunt us with something that is still not open. Thanks.
The narrator has the "Question Mark Explanation Syndrome"
Yes. The way she speaks is as if every sentence is a question.
We Canadians are so naive when we criticize others' country on " corruption," "Africa countries, China, Vietnam, etc...
But at home, Canada here... we " harbor " all kinds of corruptions. This Ellington Cross town LRT and many more constructions are where the corruptions taken places, right in front of your eyes
i thought they are retiring this now after 14 years in the making including testing LOL
Can’t at least part of it open? If the whole thing has to wait until all the stations are open, it will never open.
Remember when they could build a railroad across the whole country in 5 years….And with mostly just humans and draft animals?
Metrolink is trying to make history, avg building 2km per year completed.
Science Center stop needs to be renamed---- so we are looking at another 5 years for completion with an extra cost of $500M
Probably something Aboriginal.
Public money sitting there for years. By the time we use it its time to be renovated and updated. Open up at least some of the grass areas outside and sitting areas inside for the public that funded it.
This video shows a lot of bike lanes, which have become controversial lately. Doug Ford is getting rid of them. I think it is still too early to decide this. Covid-19 has changed transportation usage since about 2020. That's only four years ago -- not enough to evaluate long term effects.
The bike lanes on Eglinton didn’t affect car traffic because there hasn’t been any significant car traffic on Eglinton for 10 years. The Crosstown construction made it impractical for anyone to drive on Eglinton.
Also, the city plan was to move all car traffic onto a new adjacent road to the north.
The lasting embarrassment of Rob and Doug Ford. A real shame.
This crap is never opening.
Well lookit the size of the buildings and concrete . A little more of a modest train track coulda cost less and be built sooner .
Some parts of phase 1 are already starting to look run down. It's so ridiculous. Don't we pay private companies like this SPECIFICALLY because they're supposed to have prior experience and avoid these kind of delays?
end of service life loll
NORTH AMERICA/CANADA, reason for “SLOWER BUILS, IS CORRUPTION!”
Also “NO CHARGES FOR DELAY OF COMPLETION!”
CHINA would have completed MANY-MANY KILOMETRES IN JUST A FEW MONTHS.
WHY?
Why do I need to rely on intrepid TH-camrs for information on these projects and not the city?
🚈👍
15 years construction, absolutely pathetic, projects like this would have been completed in 2-3 years in Europe and Asia.
What a joke. They built the entire Chunnel in 6.9 years
Good info but sounds like speaker has a mouthful of marbles
It will open when Canada joins the United States, which is never.
Biggest boondoggle in Toronto's history.
This project is a complete embarrassment to all Torontonians, many years late, billions over budget and still inoperable. The same applies to the new and also inoperable Finch LRT. Meanwhile the same obviously incompetent provincially owned contractor Metrolinx has started building the subway extension known as the Ontario line. This project is already over budget and expected to be years late. How do we get out of the circle of incompetence? Firing Premier Doug Ford at the next election would be a good place to start.
The British & French built th chunnel 50.46km under the English channel in only 6 years.
The Eglinton LRT is shorter and has already taken twice as long.
Someone needs to be fired, Metrolinx is a total waste.
Toronto sucks.
Then leave.
28km of light fail
What a joke, hope people are getting FIRED after this?!
its a joke since 2011
The whole western extension should be above ground.
People in Dougie riding would be pist hence the underground section in the west
toronto is a living hell
another joke that will never finish