As someone that lives downtown and uses Line 1 almost daily, I can't wait for the planned expansion of Bloor Station. The streetcar network extension around the lake is super exciting as well.
@@Punty050 Widening the Line 1 platforms, and building a new platform for Line 2 for eastbound trains. Existing platform will be used for westbound trains, similar to the Union Station renovation.
@@evanzhang2877 Thanks so much for the details. I'd like to see how they do the new platform for line 2. I hope they do upgrade it but leave it as a single platform so you can access both eastbound and westbound trains from the same platform. Curious as to how they're gonna do that unless they're planning to separate the platforms.
Toronto had kept a Heritage Transit vehicle (the Streetcars), which dates back to the 19th century and is now starting to gain the LRTs and a new Light Metro (which will *become the New Line 3) *Old Line 3 is in Scarborough, which ran between 1985 and 2023
@@alexanderip1003 sadly line 5 and Ontario are not done and now line 3 Scarborough SLRT is gone for good , trains sold to Detroit , and the museum in Hilton . We do have line 6 being done
Montreal and Toronto are going to have the best transit systems in North America. Not to say that I don't have a total love affair with DC Metro and the Mexico City Metro, but when you compare infrastructure and service per capita, major Canadian cities are beginning to run circles around the rest.
@@rich7447 Toronto is the one North American city building a modern RER/S-Bahn network with 15 minute freqencies. Included in that is a direct airport rail connection downtown. It also the best, most extensive legacy street car network in North America. On top of that, Toronto has an extensive city-wide 24 hour bus network with 5-10 minute frequencies. Toronto also has numerous LRT and BRT lines way out in the suburbs connected to the RER network, along with a hybrid subway light rail system spanning midtown that will connect with the airport and every RER line. That's on top of a world class subway netork, which while not overly extensive, still maintains 3-6 minute headways (vs DC's 10-20 minute headways) at a higher speed than probably any US Metro system besides BART. The Ontario line, which is automated like the 66km of REM lines being built at once in Montreal, will be faster, more advanced, and higher frequency than anything yet seen in the United States. Of course, DC Metro is great, it's its much more extensive than the Toronto Subway, but Toronto makes up for that by utilizing different modes to create an extensive, reliable system that punches way above its weight when it comes to service.
@@RoboJules The Ontario line was needed 30 years ago and very little of this changes the fact that the majority of Scarborough and Etobicoke are underserviced, have been for decades and will still be for years to come. The Sheppard line was a good idea that was poorly implemented since it really needed to go at least as far as McCowan/Scarborough Town. All the current implementation did was cut off 5 minutes of time on the Huntingwood or Sheppard bus. A full cross city line at Sheppard or Finch would have made a lot more sense. A cross city line on Eglington is a good idea if it ever comes to be, but after seeing almost no new subway development in the last 30 years I am pretty skeptical. Street cars and trams are fine when they run on dedicated right of ways, but are horrible when sharing space with vehicle traffic.
@@rich7447 I agree that Toronto's transit has historically been rather dissapointing and slow to develop. Smaller cities like Vancouver and Montreal actually did a better job for decades. However, rapid change is coming to the Toronto transit system, and it's being intigrated in a smart, efficient way that offers an insane amount of service. If I'd compare Toronto's near future transit system to anything, it would be western European rail networks, where regional rail and trams are used alongside metro to ensure an extensive system. In that sense, no other city in North America is crafting such a diverse and extensive transit system that serves so many people, and no other greater metro region is doing a better job at serving the suburbs than Greater Toronto. A lot of these changes are very recent, but extremely promising. You need to realize that I was ragging on Toronto for the longest time, but with Trillum Rail, I really need to eat my words. Vancouver doesn't have an RER network, and we need one badly. Every major sprawl needs RER.
(Hamilton should totally try to build some office space at West Harbour GO station, in the hopes of luring a few confused companies that mixed it up with Toronto's East Harbour GO station. 😆)
Good luck getting Hamilton to do anything visionary. They literally kicked out low income folks out of a huge property next to West Harbour, and took like 6 years to get a private/social housing development with surface parking with zero commercial or office space with a look more similar to Regent park, and less like new Regent park. It's not a great spot for towers, but 7 floor stacked townhomes is trash. If you're more interested in what's planned for there, let me know and I can send you the plans so you can cringe with me
I remember the moment I realized how the transit system would look if regional rail was fare integrated into TTC and had local stations. Complete paradigm shift. I dream of a $5 GO train tap in to anywhere in the city integrated into TTC transfers as well.
@@coastaku1954 No, but the payment system is the same everywhere in the region. It’s like a metro pass that applies to a larger area. With a few more upgrades you could certainly have free transfers too.
Good video. However, ideally, to balance the load between the subway and the GO RER service, there needs to be fare integration between the TTC and GO. Currently, people don't want to take the GO compared to the TTC because it is more expensive than the TTC.
It would be sweet to see Line 4 get more ridership, perhaps through connections to the West to provide another connection point with Line 1, to the South with the the Ontario Line, or to the East with the Line 2. I'm not sure if there population density along the line would justify it though. It's a shame that it's not used more. Having an integrated system between the GO, TTC and some of the suburban transits (MiWay and York Regional Transit) would also be something I hope to see in the near future. Agreed that there is a lot more work required in the 905. It'll be interesting to see if there will be a connection to Mississauga City Centre, seeing as it is a large hub. Perhaps a connection to Sherway Gardens as well.
I said it before let line 5 takeover the existing line 3 alignment, you only need to build like 500 m of tunnel. With future extentions from Scarborough town center to somewhere east (while line 2 goes north) You have the right of way, keep using it.
Can you even reuse the existing track? You would need to install overhead wires as well all the way up to McCowan. I like your thinking btw, not dunking on you for the idea. I just want to see real plans not pipe dreams
@RMTransit honestly I'm not a fan of the current subway plan. I'd rather see line 3 rebuilt to accommodate line 2 trains and to extend that to Malvern town center. I'd also have the Eglinton east LRT just end at u of t with u of t being an underground station.
This is pretty impressive expansion when you put it all together. Well done Toronto! Meanwhile in London, we get 2 new stations on the Northern Line and Crossrail, which will open in 2100 and whatever, maybe?? LOL
Wow. I've been taking the TTC since I was a kid, I didn't know nearly as much as this vid explained. Well done. Apart from that, the problem I find with TO transpo is the sheer amount of time it takes to get things built. I now live on Eglinton, a stones throw away from Science Center. It's a damn nightmare. The line is several years overdue, Metrolinx is decimating the roads with impunity. It's so bad that I no longer take the TTC, I bought a car, only to have had to replace front linkages 3 times in the past year due to pot holes. The condo I purchased has not appreciated in value at the rate of other units, as no one in their right mind would want to be buried in the Wynford area. FML. Toronto is a disaster to live in and kudos to having a plan, but it's better to just move to another city at this point.
@@alphie20 appreciate the words of motivation! Yeah I guess I have no choice but to play the long game. Luckily I'm still in my 30s so I have some time to let equity build. At this point I can't even begin to estimate when this area will finally be construction free so we can enjoy it. They're putting up 9 new towers on my block, plus the whole Celestica complex being built. Eek.
now that the Scarborough RT has been shut down ahead of schedule before the Line 2 extension is complete it really strikes me just how strange it is that TTC didn't just extend Line 2 in the first place instead of building a totally separate line that needs to be transferred to from Line 2. I'm sure there was some reasoning behind it but it just really doesn't seem to make any sense at all
This channel has come such a long way and I'm loving every bit. The thorough and extensive research done is indeed quite apparent. Excellent work and well done!
As someone living on the west side of Mississauga, the 905 could really use some transit upgrades. If there was a subway extension that went into the square one/city centre area of Mississauga, that would make life so much easier for me. The Mississauga BRT is handy, but it has its limits due to the lack of infrastructure connected to it... Toronto really looks like it's coming together. Great video!
Amen! This is the missing link no one seems to be talking about! Mississauga and Brampton around 1.5 millions people’s. Toronto cannot be a world class city without a subway extension into Mississauga. The Ontario line should have an additional station to Humber shores, another one to long branch, another cooksville and then city centre. Bonus if the line would finish either at Pearson or a bit north west Mississauga to create a bus hub. This would connect 1.5 millions people’s to downtown Toronto. Very surprise Mississauga always forgotten. LRT good within Mississauga but not build for long trip to go to Toronto. I am wondering if this is due to Hazel McCallion against a green line extension to Mississauga back in the days…
Reece if all that you mention get build toronto can match up with world best subway or metro system toronto will become one of the world's best subway system i really enjoy this video thank you amazing.
Go plans on making the stouffville line frequency every 15 min. Also adding a subway line aka line 2 extension less than 1km away between Kennedy station and Agincourt go. This is poor planning as the region does not have high enough demand to justify. Also to note fare integration corrodes all benefits. Etobicoke north south LRT at the least should have been considered.
There is no rapid transit in Toronto. It took me 2 hours and 45 minutes to get from the Airport to my home at Kingsway and Royal York. Its only 5 kilometers. By car 15 minutes.
According to Google Maps, as of 9PM on a weekday, there are a couple of 2-3 TTC bus routes you could take (the 52/73 for instance, which should take 45 minutes to an hour depending on which terminal you get off of). Was this at an odd time?
I wish there was a way to replace the 501 queen street car with a subway like 2 line. Queen st is too busy for a street car without a dedicated lane for it.
With all the work happening around lakeshore west and liberty village, I'm curious if there are any plans to integrate the island airport to the transit system.
Excellent, except you said ' a Christie site ' at 20:43. Many of your viewers, not being Torontonians, don't know what that is. My mother worked at 'Christie's Cookies' plant on the assembly line at the north-east corner of Park Lawn Rd. and Lakeshore Blvd. She wrapped cookies off of an assembly line into boxes. It got bought up by Nabisco (National Biscuit Company), and later Kraft Canada, and was then abandoned, and razed to the ground (current status). The Metrolinx idea is to extend the Lakeshore Blvd (Queen Line) up Park Lawn Rd. in Etobicoke to just south of the Lakeshore West Line (former CNR), and have a new GO station and streetcar loop there. EXCELLENT IDEA !! Aarre Peltomaa
Hej, can I suggest a branding of your channel? When recording the audio, say RMTransit instead of 'the channel'. Do a test, see how your audience receive it... :)
I just wish Edmonton Transit System Light Rail Transit and bus lines are as extensive as Calgary's. Unfortunately our transit system has seen deep cuts with more to come. We have to be the most autocentric city in all of North America except for Phoenix Arizona.
From what I've seen Edmonton is definitely near the bottom in North America but there are cities that are far more autocentric such as San Antonio, Kansas City, Detroit, Las Vegas, Oklahoma City, Houston, etc. It's also on par with cities such as Miami or Atlanta imo. It's not even the most autocentric in Canada as Winnipeg is comparable in size and has no LRT, just BRT. Edmonton didn't get as extensive as Calgary's due to going underground but once the Valley line is fully built out, Edmonton will finally catch up.
Very interesting, Great content and well presented. I am looking forward to the Barrie Line improvements as I am a Barrie Resident. I was wondering if GO will be changing the types of trains on the Electrified routes or moving to something different?
Looking at the map at 24:38 there's a few next-phase extensions that seem obvious: Line 4 west to the western line 1 branch, and east to the eastern end of line 2 (and further southeastwards to the east lake shore line) Line 5 east to the East lake shore line. Line 6 east to the eastern line 1 branch (and line 7). Line 7 (Ontario line) eastern end north to line 4 (and 6). Western extension otoh I don't see any obvious extension to create a more networked network? Maybe go for a south-north route west of the Kitchener line? Transfer station to the Kitchener line near the 401, then keep going north to line 6?
Pretty much all of these projects are in the proposal stage and are likely to happen. Line 4 extended east will likely happen with the next phase of subway expansions, Line 5 will be extended North East all the way to UTSC and Malvern, connecting with LSE at both Eglinton and Guildwood, fully funded by the city (although whether or not it will happen is a big question mark), Line 6 east to Yonge is basically inevitable, and the Ontario Line will be extend north at least to Sheppard, but the province is currently considering a large "Ontario Loop" plan that would see the line go north to Richmond Hill Centre, and travel west to Pearson Airport (its ambitious to say the least). Also the Ontario Line is planned to take the title of "Line 3"
This was TERRIFIC! Thank you so much for putting this together. It’s clear a lot of time and effort was put into this! Much appreciated. I have liked and shared ;)
I can't wait for the increased frequency to the Kitchener line. Currently, the train only runs 3 times per week day in one direction, and doesn't run at all on the weekends. It's basically useless for visiting Toronto for recreation (unless your idea of recreation is waking up at 7AM and coming back at 5PM on a work day)
Another thing Metrolinx has announced that all 25 stops of Line 5 including Caledonia and Eglinton will be in service beginning September 2022 with the Finch West expected to be done in 2023.
being from a medium sized (550k inhabitants) german city it really gives me hope that cities in north america start to build reliable mass transit networks that are convenient and reachable for everyone.
With the rolling stock on line 5 couldn't they not buy extra inner cars to make the same length without coupling two or three separate trainset to make an open gangway end to end without interruptions?
@@RMTransit that could work essentially and boost capacity where the end caps are dead space, and it would definitely make it more unique to have a really long LRT that's open gangway end to end, (ahem Ottawa o-train) 😏
Would be nice to have lines that extend west along sheppard ave to weston (from Line 1), or go north-south on Jane, possibly to as north as Canada's Wonderland and as south as Bloor.
Thanks for explaining this! Some others have mentioned this as well if you could possibly find out about what the fares would be that would be fantastic! Also how does TTC fare compare to other cities around the world? Should we be thankful or just suck it up? Is Metrolinx going to take over local transit companies in favour of a regional / umbrella corp.?
This is an amazingly well put together and thorough video. I am moving to Toronto next year. I can clearly see I have a lot to learn about transit in the area. Much more diverse and complex (and better) than Vancouver (which seems content to be in the transit stone age)
Pantographs can handle more power, I believe the streetcar A/C can run stronger when using them. Pantographs are also bidirectional and should last longer. Conversion basically means reconfiguring the lines so that the wire that touches the pantograph is the lowest thing, with the trolley pole, you could have brackets around the wire and that was fine since the pickup is so narrow.
I wonder what station the line 2 extension would’ve connected to at its Scarborough centre station (Line 2)? (If line 3 somehow co-existed with line 2 extension) it would make sense to connect to Scarborough centre (Line 3) but the new station is right beside mccowan station (Line 3)
Maybe, however with Toronto the whole system should be accessible in a few years, so its less of a discussion than in other places. Same is true of the other major Canadian Cities.
@@RMTransit well I'm glad to hear that Toronto is accessible but that's definitely the exception. Other than the DC metro and BART accessibility of US rapid transit is horrible. (I know Toronto is in Canada I just only want to speak to the us cuz that's what I'm most familiar with)
Hey, Indian viewer here. Would absolutely love a Taipei metro explained video. I think the cost structures in Taipei 30yrs ago look like what Bangalore faces today. I use a lot of your videos to looks for things Indian Transit systems can be doing, and Taipei would def be the one that very closely transfers over.
Can someone explain why there isn't a priority placed on expanding the sheppard line 4 west to Sheppard West Station (formerly Downsview) ? This makes so much logistical sense to me and offers riders coming south on line 1 another option to funnel into the downtown core? It would also be beneficial to the TTC in terms of creating another closed link and interchange and they can then route trains across to the Wilson yard? There is some development along Sheppard west of Bathurst that should increase density in the area.
Part of the problem is the valley east of Bathurst where the Don River crosses Sheppard. Also the air base at Dufferin would make it a tight turn to join the lines.
How likely do you think the Bloor/Danforth line will be extended west to Sherway Gardens and beyond? Also how likely is it for an extension of the Shepard line? And how costly would it be to run the Eglinton line grade separated in it’s entirety? Also final question, how likely do you think any lines will be extended to Mississauga city centre?
I think a station on Bathurst Street should be constructed on the GO Lakeshore West, Kitchener, and Barrie Line interchanging with the Bathurst Streetcar. This will enable access to a lot of High Rises and will improve connection in the downtown
They also expanding the Lakeshore east lines, there will be two new stations in Oshawa and one in Bowmanville. Ultimately I just hope they have a one Fare ticket for seamless transaction between regional and TTC.
This doesn't add coverage, but improves consistency for Humber Bay Shores. How about ROW on the 501 Queen, at least in the west. Rapid transit is sparse in Etobicoke. Pls reply ways to expand streetcar/subway coverage in Etobicoke.
That's great and all but how about putting internet in the underground trains. Maybe create an app for people to see which stations they are on, if there are delay's and how long it would take to get to your destination??? GIVE US INTERNET!!!
In 1967 I attended Expo 67 and was impressed by the Montreal Metro. When the Washington Metro opened in 78, the brakes gave off fumes and the trains squealed and shook with every stop. The has been moderated but regulators have issued reports finding that Metro has never established the ability to operate safely. Expansion of intercity rail is supposedly provided for in the Infrastructure Act, but it is questionable when and whether it will actually happen. The US had excellent rail service for many years until it was taken down at the initiative of GM, which was bent on clearing the way for cars.
Hey, thanks for this informative video. Is there any walkway tunnel or planned walkway tunnel to connect the GO Danforth station to TTC's Main Station? Or do people switching over have to walk outside? Thanks
Line 4... The line that is not even 50% complete... It's so sad it isn't being completed... Streetcar lines should slowly all be replaced by LRT since it can not afford subways.
I like it when you say Line 5 should be ready in 1 1/2 years...Hmmm...May need to place a Zero on the End of that one like 10 1/2 years....This just goes on and on....
Looking at the just release spending document tabled in the house we see no additional spending on transit. No shepherd extension. No Ellington East LRT. I'm expecting the Scarborough extension to be three years late and at least a billion over budget as is typical with Metrolinx.
Hi, Reece. Is there a plan for commuter train RER-standard circle line? I think Toronto is have a high potential to get it. From rail junction in Carleton Village to Dupont Station, built new rail to Gerald St E/Carlaw Ave, goes to the South via existing railway, and goes to the Northwest until meet the rail junction again via Bloor GO Station.
Would love for a streetcar line running along the Queensway in south Etobicoke to be at least proposed in the next few years, maybe with a new councilor. Could connect with the lakeshore 501 line just east of humber bay shore. The Queensway is rapidly building new high density residential and the automobile traffic on it is already atrocious. Better transit in the area could turn it from a de facto commuter suburb to a new extension of the thriving waterfront.
Hopefully with at least 1/2 the number of stops that’s currently planned. It’d be such a slow journey just to get to Kennedy Station, which is why I hate the “bang for the buck” argument often applied to LRT that conveniently leaves out the bang part.
I know the city and a lot of advocates are still pushing for this project but it seems hard to justify the cost when we have already installed priority bus lanes. The surface LRT would likely not provide much additional benefit, unless they remove a lot of the planned stops to speed it up significantly.
As someone that lives downtown and uses Line 1 almost daily, I can't wait for the planned expansion of Bloor Station. The streetcar network extension around the lake is super exciting as well.
It will be, big investments in legacy infrastructure are good!
How are they planning to expand Bloor station???
@@Punty050 Widening the Line 1 platforms, and building a new platform for Line 2 for eastbound trains. Existing platform will be used for westbound trains, similar to the Union Station renovation.
@@evanzhang2877 Thanks so much for the details. I'd like to see how they do the new platform for line 2. I hope they do upgrade it but leave it as a single platform so you can access both eastbound and westbound trains from the same platform. Curious as to how they're gonna do that unless they're planning to separate the platforms.
I love that Toronto and Montreal are duking it out with transit expansion. If only American cities would take note.
Toronto had kept a Heritage Transit vehicle (the Streetcars), which dates back to the 19th century and is now starting to gain the LRTs and a new Light Metro (which will *become the New Line 3)
*Old Line 3 is in Scarborough, which ran between 1985 and 2023
have you ridden TriMet (Portland Oregon)
@@blindwheels
All the time, I live in Portland.
Or other Canadian cities for that matter. Save for Vancouver.
@@alexanderip1003 sadly line 5 and Ontario are not done and now line 3 Scarborough SLRT is gone for good , trains sold to Detroit , and the museum in Hilton . We do have line 6 being done
Montreal and Toronto are going to have the best transit systems in North America. Not to say that I don't have a total love affair with DC Metro and the Mexico City Metro, but when you compare infrastructure and service per capita, major Canadian cities are beginning to run circles around the rest.
I agree, its going to be amazing in a few years.
Toronto is a long way behind a few NA cities. Washington DC started a decade after Toronto and has over twice the system length of Toronto.
@@rich7447 Toronto is the one North American city building a modern RER/S-Bahn network with 15 minute freqencies. Included in that is a direct airport rail connection downtown. It also the best, most extensive legacy street car network in North America. On top of that, Toronto has an extensive city-wide 24 hour bus network with 5-10 minute frequencies. Toronto also has numerous LRT and BRT lines way out in the suburbs connected to the RER network, along with a hybrid subway light rail system spanning midtown that will connect with the airport and every RER line. That's on top of a world class subway netork, which while not overly extensive, still maintains 3-6 minute headways (vs DC's 10-20 minute headways) at a higher speed than probably any US Metro system besides BART. The Ontario line, which is automated like the 66km of REM lines being built at once in Montreal, will be faster, more advanced, and higher frequency than anything yet seen in the United States. Of course, DC Metro is great, it's its much more extensive than the Toronto Subway, but Toronto makes up for that by utilizing different modes to create an extensive, reliable system that punches way above its weight when it comes to service.
@@RoboJules The Ontario line was needed 30 years ago and very little of this changes the fact that the majority of Scarborough and Etobicoke are underserviced, have been for decades and will still be for years to come.
The Sheppard line was a good idea that was poorly implemented since it really needed to go at least as far as McCowan/Scarborough Town. All the current implementation did was cut off 5 minutes of time on the Huntingwood or Sheppard bus. A full cross city line at Sheppard or Finch would have made a lot more sense. A cross city line on Eglington is a good idea if it ever comes to be, but after seeing almost no new subway development in the last 30 years I am pretty skeptical.
Street cars and trams are fine when they run on dedicated right of ways, but are horrible when sharing space with vehicle traffic.
@@rich7447 I agree that Toronto's transit has historically been rather dissapointing and slow to develop. Smaller cities like Vancouver and Montreal actually did a better job for decades. However, rapid change is coming to the Toronto transit system, and it's being intigrated in a smart, efficient way that offers an insane amount of service. If I'd compare Toronto's near future transit system to anything, it would be western European rail networks, where regional rail and trams are used alongside metro to ensure an extensive system. In that sense, no other city in North America is crafting such a diverse and extensive transit system that serves so many people, and no other greater metro region is doing a better job at serving the suburbs than Greater Toronto. A lot of these changes are very recent, but extremely promising. You need to realize that I was ragging on Toronto for the longest time, but with Trillum Rail, I really need to eat my words. Vancouver doesn't have an RER network, and we need one badly. Every major sprawl needs RER.
(Hamilton should totally try to build some office space at West Harbour GO station, in the hopes of luring a few confused companies that mixed it up with Toronto's East Harbour GO station. 😆)
Interesting way of doing business!
Good luck getting Hamilton to do anything visionary. They literally kicked out low income folks out of a huge property next to West Harbour, and took like 6 years to get a private/social housing development with surface parking with zero commercial or office space with a look more similar to Regent park, and less like new Regent park. It's not a great spot for towers, but 7 floor stacked townhomes is trash. If you're more interested in what's planned for there, let me know and I can send you the plans so you can cringe with me
Exactly
I remember the moment I realized how the transit system would look if regional rail was fare integrated into TTC and had local stations.
Complete paradigm shift.
I dream of a $5 GO train tap in to anywhere in the city integrated into TTC transfers as well.
Presto has done half the work, but the other half is not complete.
@@coastaku1954 No, but the payment system is the same everywhere in the region. It’s like a metro pass that applies to a larger area. With a few more upgrades you could certainly have free transfers too.
@@coastaku1954 Oh, I didn’t realize they had free transfers with other companies. I only use the TTC because I live in the heart of Toronto.
@@coastaku1954 Yes, that’s what I was talking about. The presto card. What I was saying is that it should have free transfers between other services.
Honestly, even just with more service GO would be amazing
2024 Update, Eglinton LRT is still not live and has not plan to go live anytime soon lol
Phenomenal job Reece!
Thanks Sarth!
"Will open in 2022"...😬
Good video. However, ideally, to balance the load between the subway and the GO RER service, there needs to be fare integration between the TTC and GO. Currently, people don't want to take the GO compared to the TTC because it is more expensive than the TTC.
i cant wait for the ontario line! that shits gonna look so good
Excited for line 5, especially when the extension gets built. I can’t wait to have a RT line under 500m from my front door
It would be sweet to see Line 4 get more ridership, perhaps through connections to the West to provide another connection point with Line 1, to the South with the the Ontario Line, or to the East with the Line 2. I'm not sure if there population density along the line would justify it though. It's a shame that it's not used more.
Having an integrated system between the GO, TTC and some of the suburban transits (MiWay and York Regional Transit) would also be something I hope to see in the near future.
Agreed that there is a lot more work required in the 905. It'll be interesting to see if there will be a connection to Mississauga City Centre, seeing as it is a large hub. Perhaps a connection to Sherway Gardens as well.
I said it before let line 5 takeover the existing line 3 alignment, you only need to build like 500 m of tunnel. With future extentions from Scarborough town center to somewhere east (while line 2 goes north)
You have the right of way, keep using it.
Can you even reuse the existing track? You would need to install overhead wires as well all the way up to McCowan. I like your thinking btw, not dunking on you for the idea. I just want to see real plans not pipe dreams
@RMTransit honestly I'm not a fan of the current subway plan. I'd rather see line 3 rebuilt to accommodate line 2 trains and to extend that to Malvern town center. I'd also have the Eglinton east LRT just end at u of t with u of t being an underground station.
I wholeheartedly agree
Its 2024 and the Eglinton Cross Town is still not operational.
This is pretty impressive expansion when you put it all together. Well done Toronto! Meanwhile in London, we get 2 new stations on the Northern Line and Crossrail, which will open in 2100 and whatever, maybe?? LOL
Don't be too envious. London UK transit is still light years ahead of what you'd find in the GTA.
Wow. I've been taking the TTC since I was a kid, I didn't know nearly as much as this vid explained. Well done.
Apart from that, the problem I find with TO transpo is the sheer amount of time it takes to get things built. I now live on Eglinton, a stones throw away from Science Center. It's a damn nightmare. The line is several years overdue, Metrolinx is decimating the roads with impunity. It's so bad that I no longer take the TTC, I bought a car, only to have had to replace front linkages 3 times in the past year due to pot holes. The condo I purchased has not appreciated in value at the rate of other units, as no one in their right mind would want to be buried in the Wynford area. FML. Toronto is a disaster to live in and kudos to having a plan, but it's better to just move to another city at this point.
Hang in there, bro. After the construction is done, you’ll see your property values skyrocket. I promise you.
@@alphie20 appreciate the words of motivation! Yeah I guess I have no choice but to play the long game. Luckily I'm still in my 30s so I have some time to let equity build. At this point I can't even begin to estimate when this area will finally be construction free so we can enjoy it. They're putting up 9 new towers on my block, plus the whole Celestica complex being built. Eek.
@@ComboBreakerHD Just goes to show the insane amount of latent demand thats being held back by the city
now that the Scarborough RT has been shut down ahead of schedule before the Line 2 extension is complete it really strikes me just how strange it is that TTC didn't just extend Line 2 in the first place instead of building a totally separate line that needs to be transferred to from Line 2. I'm sure there was some reasoning behind it but it just really doesn't seem to make any sense at all
This channel has come such a long way and I'm loving every bit. The thorough and extensive research done is indeed quite apparent. Excellent work and well done!
As someone living on the west side of Mississauga, the 905 could really use some transit upgrades. If there was a subway extension that went into the square one/city centre area of Mississauga, that would make life so much easier for me. The Mississauga BRT is handy, but it has its limits due to the lack of infrastructure connected to it... Toronto really looks like it's coming together.
Great video!
Amen! This is the missing link no one seems to be talking about! Mississauga and Brampton around 1.5 millions people’s. Toronto cannot be a world class city without a subway extension into Mississauga. The Ontario line should have an additional station to Humber shores, another one to long branch, another cooksville and then city centre. Bonus if the line would finish either at Pearson or a bit north west Mississauga to create a bus hub. This would connect 1.5 millions people’s to downtown Toronto. Very surprise Mississauga always forgotten. LRT good within Mississauga but not build for long trip to go to Toronto. I am wondering if this is due to Hazel McCallion against a green line extension to Mississauga back in the days…
Well, I do remember they had something planned for that. But I guess they canceled it :(
Reece if all that you mention get build toronto can match up with world best subway or metro system toronto will become one of the world's best subway system i really enjoy this video thank you amazing.
Thanks!
Go plans on making the stouffville line frequency every 15 min. Also adding a subway line aka line 2 extension less than 1km away between Kennedy station and Agincourt go. This is poor planning as the region does not have high enough demand to justify. Also to note fare integration corrodes all benefits. Etobicoke north south LRT at the least should have been considered.
Really want that Go station at Parklawn, it's such a congested area already, and it's only going to be getting worse with all the new condo's
Will the Sheppard Line ever be extended?
It's more long term but Sheppard will be extended east to meet with the Scarborough Subway.
@@mrrobot5963 weren't they also supposed to do the Eglinton East extension?
@@enthusiast9395 Yep. Surprised Reece left the line out. Especially considering it's already partly funded.
Funding has been partially allocated for eastern extension but west to connect at Sheppard West would be ideal as well.
What happened
Still waiting for rapid TTC system
Nothing has changed???
This is a amazing video thank you so much!
Thank you!
There is no rapid transit in Toronto. It took me 2 hours and 45 minutes to get from the Airport to my home at Kingsway and Royal York. Its only 5 kilometers. By car 15 minutes.
According to Google Maps, as of 9PM on a weekday, there are a couple of 2-3 TTC bus routes you could take (the 52/73 for instance, which should take 45 minutes to an hour depending on which terminal you get off of). Was this at an odd time?
I wish there was a way to replace the 501 queen street car with a subway like 2 line. Queen st is too busy for a street car without a dedicated lane for it.
It looks like the Ontario Line won't connect with the Sheppard Line judging from the map
Eventually
With all the work happening around lakeshore west and liberty village, I'm curious if there are any plans to integrate the island airport to the transit system.
Excellent, except you said ' a Christie site ' at 20:43. Many of your viewers, not being Torontonians, don't know what that is. My mother worked at 'Christie's Cookies' plant on the assembly line at the north-east corner of Park Lawn Rd. and Lakeshore Blvd. She wrapped cookies off of an assembly line into boxes. It got bought up by Nabisco (National Biscuit Company), and later Kraft Canada, and was then abandoned, and razed to the ground (current status).
The Metrolinx idea is to extend the Lakeshore Blvd (Queen Line) up Park Lawn Rd. in Etobicoke to just south of the Lakeshore West Line (former CNR), and have a new GO station and streetcar loop there. EXCELLENT IDEA !!
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Hej, can I suggest a branding of your channel? When recording the audio, say RMTransit instead of 'the channel'.
Do a test, see how your audience receive it... :)
I just wish Edmonton Transit System Light Rail Transit and bus lines are as extensive as Calgary's. Unfortunately our transit system has seen deep cuts with more to come. We have to be the most autocentric city in all of North America except for Phoenix Arizona.
From what I've seen Edmonton is definitely near the bottom in North America but there are cities that are far more autocentric such as San Antonio, Kansas City, Detroit, Las Vegas, Oklahoma City, Houston, etc. It's also on par with cities such as Miami or Atlanta imo. It's not even the most autocentric in Canada as Winnipeg is comparable in size and has no LRT, just BRT. Edmonton didn't get as extensive as Calgary's due to going underground but once the Valley line is fully built out, Edmonton will finally catch up.
You should work on your diction, I had to stop, it all sounds like one non stop sentence.
Very interesting, Great content and well presented. I am looking forward to the Barrie Line improvements as I am a Barrie Resident. I was wondering if GO will be changing the types of trains on the Electrified routes or moving to something different?
This is a great video! I hope that you could do that for other cities as well.
I have been! Check out my explained video on Hong Kong here: th-cam.com/video/XekhaIbzEJk/w-d-xo.html
Looking at the map at 24:38 there's a few next-phase extensions that seem obvious:
Line 4 west to the western line 1 branch, and east to the eastern end of line 2 (and further southeastwards to the east lake shore line)
Line 5 east to the East lake shore line.
Line 6 east to the eastern line 1 branch (and line 7).
Line 7 (Ontario line) eastern end north to line 4 (and 6). Western extension otoh I don't see any obvious extension to create a more networked network? Maybe go for a south-north route west of the Kitchener line? Transfer station to the Kitchener line near the 401, then keep going north to line 6?
Pretty much all of these projects are in the proposal stage and are likely to happen. Line 4 extended east will likely happen with the next phase of subway expansions, Line 5 will be extended North East all the way to UTSC and Malvern, connecting with LSE at both Eglinton and Guildwood, fully funded by the city (although whether or not it will happen is a big question mark), Line 6 east to Yonge is basically inevitable, and the Ontario Line will be extend north at least to Sheppard, but the province is currently considering a large "Ontario Loop" plan that would see the line go north to Richmond Hill Centre, and travel west to Pearson Airport (its ambitious to say the least).
Also the Ontario Line is planned to take the title of "Line 3"
They are building up stuff with the go and the ttc
This was TERRIFIC! Thank you so much for putting this together. It’s clear a lot of time and effort was put into this! Much appreciated. I have liked and shared ;)
Please make a video about 903 TTC bus
Super useful information! Thanks buddy!
.........The world 5th worst transit system.
I can't wait for the increased frequency to the Kitchener line. Currently, the train only runs 3 times per week day in one direction, and doesn't run at all on the weekends. It's basically useless for visiting Toronto for recreation (unless your idea of recreation is waking up at 7AM and coming back at 5PM on a work day)
Well researched video with such comprehensive details. Toronto appears to be among the best city in North America with great public transit system.
What the deal with the platform screen doors? Are they really needed?
Montreal deserves an update once we know more specifics about REM L'est
Yep, not a bad idea once it's under construction
Another thing Metrolinx has announced that all 25 stops of Line 5 including Caledonia and Eglinton will be in service beginning September 2022 with the Finch West expected to be done in 2023.
Amazing video. I am excited about the Ontario line but so many others to be excited about too
being from a medium sized (550k inhabitants) german city it really gives me hope that cities in north america start to build reliable mass transit networks that are convenient and reachable for everyone.
With the rolling stock on line 5 couldn't they not buy extra inner cars to make the same length without coupling two or three separate trainset to make an open gangway end to end without interruptions?
Probably, but nobody thought of that ;)
@@RMTransit that could work essentially and boost capacity where the end caps are dead space, and it would definitely make it more unique to have a really long LRT that's open gangway end to end, (ahem Ottawa o-train) 😏
Great video, very informative! Any reason for the lack of through service with Go transit via the Toronto CBD?
There is through service with the Lakeshore East and West Lines. Same with Kitchener and Stouffville. It just isn't shown on the map.
@@mrrobot5963 Thanks for the explanation!
@@SpectreMk2 No problem, they usually announce that the train continues past Union station.
Excellent work!
I'd love to see one about Melbourne, Australia
That will absolutely come!
Would be nice to have lines that extend west along sheppard ave to weston (from Line 1), or go north-south on Jane, possibly to as north as Canada's Wonderland and as south as Bloor.
holy shoot there's way more progress than i expected. Its making me really excited to live here the next few years!
So irritating that there's no line 4 plan 😑
Thanks for explaining this! Some others have mentioned this as well if you could possibly find out about what the fares would be that would be fantastic! Also how does TTC fare compare to other cities around the world? Should we be thankful or just suck it up? Is Metrolinx going to take over local transit companies in favour of a regional / umbrella corp.?
This is an amazingly well put together and thorough video. I am moving to Toronto next year. I can clearly see I have a lot to learn about transit in the area. Much more diverse and complex (and better) than Vancouver (which seems content to be in the transit stone age)
Hey! Vancouver is pretty good - and better than Toronto in a lot of ways! But yeah, Toronto is really complex and *is* building a lot of stuff.
@@RMTransit stop slandering Toronto its the best city in canada
How do feel now living in Toronto 😂
What work is needed to convert a streetcar line from using trolley poles to pantograph? What advantages do pantographs have?
One advantage I can think of is that pantograph can’t slip off the wire the way trolley poles can, but that’s all that comes to mind for me
Pantographs can handle more power, I believe the streetcar A/C can run stronger when using them. Pantographs are also bidirectional and should last longer.
Conversion basically means reconfiguring the lines so that the wire that touches the pantograph is the lowest thing, with the trolley pole, you could have brackets around the wire and that was fine since the pickup is so narrow.
I wonder what station the line 2 extension would’ve connected to at its Scarborough centre station (Line 2)? (If line 3 somehow co-existed with line 2 extension) it would make sense to connect to Scarborough centre (Line 3) but the new station is right beside mccowan station (Line 3)
Such a great channel, how come I just discovered it! Thanks for the great video!1
these videos are awesome would you consider talking more about wheelchair accessibility of transit systems in future videos?
Maybe, however with Toronto the whole system should be accessible in a few years, so its less of a discussion than in other places. Same is true of the other major Canadian Cities.
@@RMTransit well I'm glad to hear that Toronto is accessible but that's definitely the exception. Other than the DC metro and BART accessibility of US rapid transit is horrible. (I know Toronto is in Canada I just only want to speak to the us cuz that's what I'm most familiar with)
Wheelchair accessibility and accessibility of rapid Transit generally is very neglected especially within TH-cam from what I've seen
I can definitely mention it in the future.
The Vancouverite in Reece comes out with every second “T” in Toronto, unlike locals who say it one whole syllable.
Toronto is getting a much needed TLC and investments in Public Transit.
TTC is good if you are near the subway network, or you go to downtown for work.
TTC is terrible for suburb to suburb travels.
Excellent video. Thank you. 👍
Go train made it to London ont this weekend with transportation minister and other delegates on board 😉
Proud to be a Torontonian!
Bike lanes need to go…. You don’t want to get hit, stay off the road, adults are going to work. Street cars need to go, subway/bus is far better
No, we need them on every street along with traffic calming.
Hey, Indian viewer here. Would absolutely love a Taipei metro explained video. I think the cost structures in Taipei 30yrs ago look like what Bangalore faces today. I use a lot of your videos to looks for things Indian Transit systems can be doing, and Taipei would def be the one that very closely transfers over.
Asian metro systems are just top tier. Japan, SK, China, Singapore, and even India has really good public transport. Way better than the US😂
Can someone explain why there isn't a priority placed on expanding the sheppard line 4 west to Sheppard West Station (formerly Downsview) ? This makes so much logistical sense to me and offers riders coming south on line 1 another option to funnel into the downtown core? It would also be beneficial to the TTC in terms of creating another closed link and interchange and they can then route trains across to the Wilson yard? There is some development along Sheppard west of Bathurst that should increase density in the area.
Part of the problem is the valley east of Bathurst where the Don River crosses Sheppard. Also the air base at Dufferin would make it a tight turn to join the lines.
Great video and summary. I love the graphix and animations.
Thank you!
How likely do you think the Bloor/Danforth line will be extended west to Sherway Gardens and beyond? Also how likely is it for an extension of the Shepard line? And how costly would it be to run the Eglinton line grade separated in it’s entirety? Also final question, how likely do you think any lines will be extended to Mississauga city centre?
I'd love to see a terminus for the B-D and Crosstown Lines at Square One someday, it'd be the true "Union Stn of the West".
I'd like to see it eventually, but Idk how likely it is anytime soon!
I'd love to see what you have to say about Edmonton's transit system!
10:45 *2023 But yeah construction might get delayed!
I think a station on Bathurst Street should be constructed on the GO Lakeshore West, Kitchener, and Barrie Line interchanging with the Bathurst Streetcar. This will enable access to a lot of High Rises and will improve connection in the downtown
Infill stops at Sherborne and Cherry will also increase access to downtown and Old Toronto
here in Toronto people come 2 close to you wether they r waiting in line or for the bus.
They don't want to connect Sheppard stations
Beyond Awesome ! It 'll be awhile but electrification of Go will be great. Great video . Thanks so much!
Thank you!
Excellent video.
This is an amazing video! Great work!!!
Love the video! Any reason you didn’t mention the Shepphard line east extension?
Too far out, not much certainty
They also expanding the Lakeshore east lines, there will be two new stations in Oshawa and one in Bowmanville.
Ultimately I just hope they have a one Fare ticket for seamless transaction between regional and TTC.
Toronto here - Great video honestly. Much love.
I love your Channel
How are things looking for Ottawa?
This doesn't add coverage, but improves consistency for Humber Bay Shores. How about ROW on the 501 Queen, at least in the west. Rapid transit is sparse in Etobicoke. Pls reply ways to expand streetcar/subway coverage in Etobicoke.
That's great and all but how about putting internet in the underground trains. Maybe create an app for people to see which stations they are on, if there are delay's and how long it would take to get to your destination??? GIVE US INTERNET!!!
In 1967 I attended Expo 67 and was impressed by the Montreal Metro. When the Washington Metro opened in 78, the brakes gave off fumes and the trains squealed and shook with every stop. The has been moderated but regulators have issued reports finding that Metro has never established the ability to operate safely. Expansion of intercity rail is supposedly provided for in the Infrastructure Act, but it is questionable when and whether it will actually happen. The US had excellent rail service for many years until it was taken down at the initiative of GM, which was bent on clearing the way for cars.
Hey, thanks for this informative video.
Is there any walkway tunnel or planned walkway tunnel to connect the GO Danforth station to TTC's Main Station? Or do people switching over have to walk outside? Thanks
Line 4... The line that is not even 50% complete... It's so sad it isn't being completed...
Streetcar lines should slowly all be replaced by LRT since it can not afford subways.
I like it when you say Line 5 should be ready in 1 1/2 years...Hmmm...May need to place a Zero on the End of that one like 10 1/2 years....This just goes on and on....
Looking at the just release spending document tabled in the house we see no additional spending on transit. No shepherd extension. No Ellington East LRT. I'm expecting the Scarborough extension to be three years late and at least a billion over budget as is typical with Metrolinx.
Hi, Reece. Is there a plan for commuter train RER-standard circle line? I think Toronto is have a high potential to get it. From rail junction in Carleton Village to Dupont Station, built new rail to Gerald St E/Carlaw Ave, goes to the South via existing railway, and goes to the Northwest until meet the rail junction again via Bloor GO Station.
SmartTrack is dead???
Long has been
@@RMTransit So just RER? What about 407 Transitway? That will be built soon?
Would love for a streetcar line running along the Queensway in south Etobicoke to be at least proposed in the next few years, maybe with a new councilor. Could connect with the lakeshore 501 line just east of humber bay shore. The Queensway is rapidly building new high density residential and the automobile traffic on it is already atrocious. Better transit in the area could turn it from a de facto commuter suburb to a new extension of the thriving waterfront.
Question, the "143 or 144km" bit. What was the 1km variance you've mentioned throughout the video specifically?
Maybe Toronto can have the ACS64s as clearly Amtrak doesn’t like them and would rather have the cool but the like 80% of the time reliable Chargers
What about Line 5 Eglinton East into Scarborough past Kennedy via Kingston and Morningside? Is that still happening?
I doubt it...
Hopefully with at least 1/2 the number of stops that’s currently planned. It’d be such a slow journey just to get to Kennedy Station, which is why I hate the “bang for the buck” argument often applied to LRT that conveniently leaves out the bang part.
I know the city and a lot of advocates are still pushing for this project but it seems hard to justify the cost when we have already installed priority bus lanes. The surface LRT would likely not provide much additional benefit, unless they remove a lot of the planned stops to speed it up significantly.
There is no danforth station