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Why I'm Making my Evo Slower

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ความคิดเห็น • 654

  • @AjJabaay
    @AjJabaay ปีที่แล้ว +693

    It's not really our interpretation that street is an entry level class.. none of time attack with us is really a place that isn't serious. The turbo rule on airflow hasn't changed, we've just shifted the burden of proof to competitors on if a turbo meets the rule. 2 way vs 1 way= people having custom , expensive, 1 way coilovers built in order to win = what's the point of the 1 way only rule?
    Racers being racers = rules are hard to make. Sorry we've made a change you dislike on suspension but it is what it is

    • @GearsandGasoline
      @GearsandGasoline  ปีที่แล้ว +503

      Is this the beginning of Gridlife/G&G beef??

    • @AjJabaay
      @AjJabaay ปีที่แล้ว +396

      @@GearsandGasoline I hope so. Hug fights only tho

    • @siriax1691
      @siriax1691 ปีที่แล้ว +194

      @@AjJabaay I say Ben is locked to having his brake lights linked to his horn when competing in events.

    • @Christri
      @Christri ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @adam jabaay look at stock class auto x, the top level people will spend on their shocks. However double adjustable are more intimidating. More time and money can be spent to tune those after the initial valving.

    • @IBoughtASupra
      @IBoughtASupra ปีที่แล้ว +24

      So wait, the rules were changed to counter G&G Ben’s Evo?
      In that case, I would run my car to the very edge of that rule book….

  • @williamrori1274
    @williamrori1274 ปีที่แล้ว +916

    As a street class competitor with an actual street car, I really applaud this level of sportsmanship. It is what the sport is all about.

    • @PhilJue
      @PhilJue ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Elantra N the world?

    • @tinfoilhat1619
      @tinfoilhat1619 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      He just doesn't want to move up. Wants to stay on top in entry lvl lmao

    • @jarrocabanes5226
      @jarrocabanes5226 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I agree with your sentiments. Most other racers on the top of their class wouldn't care less about maintaining the competitive nature within their class as long as their on top. Kudos to Ben for that. 🍻

    • @williamrori1274
      @williamrori1274 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@PhilJue :) I just need to tune the driver more so I can keep up with you guys in T3 hehe

    • @Desert_Spec
      @Desert_Spec ปีที่แล้ว +3

      This is not what the sport is about.... it's about building the fastest car within the regulations. It's not up to competitors to reduce their cars performance because they feel bad, it's up to the event organisers to adjust accordingly.

  • @Dappersworth
    @Dappersworth ปีที่แล้ว +425

    Honestly what Ben did with street class was a necessary evil. Someone was bound to come along and do exactly what he did, and the person that did it just so happened to have lots of social media attention which brought focus to the leniant rules street class had.
    In a way, Ben made the class *more* fair, by being unfair for a short time.

    • @isaactrockman4417
      @isaactrockman4417 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      For sure. Hopefully the social media presence doesn’t lead to angry fans going after anyone

    • @elijahbarrett798
      @elijahbarrett798 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yesssss

    • @edim108
      @edim108 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes. This wouldn't have gotten nearly as much attention without someone with a social media platform like Ben. There still would be changes, but they wouldn't come as quickly.
      It's frankly a bit absurd what you could get away with in that class. Top competing cars were just a single step away from purpose built race cars and not actual street cars.

  • @joseacuna3239
    @joseacuna3239 ปีที่แล้ว +443

    Giving up on hp it’s not always a bad thing. Knowing how much you can do with the hp you have is more valuable. I feel the MR2 has taught you something

    • @robertfish4052
      @robertfish4052 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      True in part, but as horsepower goes up it can be difficult to appreciate the wear and tear on all of the parts simultaneously. The trade off between power, speed, manageability and overall reliability.

    • @tsuk2430
      @tsuk2430 ปีที่แล้ว

      @user-lz5wl2ep7mshut up

    • @johnmitchell2269
      @johnmitchell2269 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Fast cars don't always need big hp. The Porsche 911 991.2 GT3 RS did the Nurburgring in under 7 mins with just a naturally aspirated flat 6.

    • @che3601
      @che3601 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@johnmitchell2269 thought 911's have flat 6's?

    • @johnmitchell2269
      @johnmitchell2269 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@che3601 They do yeah. Edited it.

  • @boyflexnv
    @boyflexnv ปีที่แล้ว +266

    Major respect here. I never saw street class as entry level and never bothered to look into it because of how insane some of the cars already are.

    • @spaghetti5038
      @spaghetti5038 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Same but now that he explained it. It makes sense. They're street cars, although I never saw it that way because of cars like the Evo lol. There definitely needs more rules to be in place to make them more like a street car.

    • @teamkr2d
      @teamkr2d ปีที่แล้ว

      This is kinda funny
      Im a beginner hpde dude and always wondered what is like TT then figured there was a “street class”. I thought street class was more likely beginner friendly non-race car competition.
      No 2 ways, or crazy turbo swaps etc.. i dont know the rule and didnt even thinking about registering the grid life after i saw cars running in street class.

  • @TheJnMGaming
    @TheJnMGaming ปีที่แล้ว +183

    Respect for knowing the car was giving the advantage and being honest with everyone! Major props! Keep up the good work!

  • @eddiejohnson3366
    @eddiejohnson3366 ปีที่แล้ว +150

    Ben I think humility is a good virtue. This video shows you as a person have matured. You hit some key points as far as being a competitor and sportsmanship. You also will gain respect amongst your competitors. Good good my friend!

    • @mengx94
      @mengx94 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yea.. time to compete at the local stance meet

  • @MLeeder53
    @MLeeder53 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    It doesn’t matter what series you are in, grassroots to imsa,At the end it all becomes and arms race. Then the rule books gets larger harder to understand to keep people from going too far. That said it’s nice that you’ve noticed it and taking a step back.

  • @svgPhoenix
    @svgPhoenix ปีที่แล้ว +58

    G&G is starting the new year strong! This is the most I've enjoyed a "no-action video" in a LONG time.
    (As in not a road trip, track day, or build montage)

  • @svgPhoenix
    @svgPhoenix ปีที่แล้ว +116

    This is the kind of A-class filmography I subscribed to the channel for!

    • @tanmoy1342
      @tanmoy1342 ปีที่แล้ว

      Indeed

    • @ElSikario100
      @ElSikario100 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The bit with the tea mug was 👌

    • @svgPhoenix
      @svgPhoenix ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @Prince Charming that's around the time I paused to comment lol. The rest of the video was just as good though

    • @ElSikario100
      @ElSikario100 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@svgPhoenix yup! it sold it for me too. Felt like something you'd learn in filmography school or something (idk never been). Love this channel.

  • @boostben
    @boostben ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This phenomenon is known as 'speed creep'. It happens in every series maybe with the exception of pure spec racing, but even then, things get faster.
    Something to remember, if you didn't do it... someone else would have. Constant adjustments to the rules will always be required. Someone will always feel singled out with rule changes, and others will be swept up unintentionally as well. It's racing, never going to change.
    The biggest thing to ruin a series is making a rule that can't be enforced. If it's power to weight, and you don't have a dyno and scales always present....then it's not actually power to weight.

  • @williamt1579
    @williamt1579 ปีที่แล้ว +537

    It’s okay Ben, we all give up a little HP for women sooner or later.

    • @your-mom_was_here
      @your-mom_was_here ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Lol

    • @NekoWinters
      @NekoWinters ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Speak for yourself, us tops get boi wives that support cars and ģųns in place of having brats, best quote I ever heard from mine "if you have a baby then you can't really stay the babe"

    • @rcravincase
      @rcravincase ปีที่แล้ว +24

      Nah, get yourself a girl who likes going fast as well

    • @Rose.Of.Hizaki
      @Rose.Of.Hizaki ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Not if youre Riccardo Patrese

    • @mckusipaska7964
      @mckusipaska7964 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      if you trade your passion for a woman you deserve neither

  • @RStandsForRace
    @RStandsForRace ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The SCCA has TT classes that are super entry level if that's what you're looking for. Gridlife and GTA are pro big flashy builds to attract spectators and money. It is what it is.

  • @kyleturk6579
    @kyleturk6579 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I am in a similar boat with my evo 9. I'm just getting into time attack as an enthusiast. It makes about 400hp and the car is way to much for me to handle on a track like gingermen. Looking into adding a fa5 back into the fleet to get more driver experience before I run that car again. 🚗 love the series can't wait for more!

  • @ryanbrown918
    @ryanbrown918 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Dying to see more MR-S Content. I'm buying a 2ZZ this weekend to start building in prep of finding a "blown up" Spyder to drop it in. This will be my dedicated Track Car for sure.

  • @gearhartadventures
    @gearhartadventures ปีที่แล้ว +11

    "...and this is all much closer to being a relatable, realistic, true streetcar."
    Exactly what the Gears and Gasoline channel is all about. Being relatable, realistic, and true.

  • @richardledesma1675
    @richardledesma1675 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The vulnerability and sportsmanship of Ben is pretty wholesome, I’m glad you’re willing to bring the car near the others to have to drive your heart out to win instead of walking the comp

  • @redjaypictures4528
    @redjaypictures4528 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Its honestly kinda insane how you can make me feel certain emotions just by the way you present what happening with your cars, i’m gonna have to take notes for the next time I’m working on a documentary

  • @am55255
    @am55255 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    A well reasoned step back and a Sundae Cup shout out? Ya love to see it.

  • @gbrunner24
    @gbrunner24 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love all of your content, but I especially love the honesty, introspection, and message this video (and yourself Ben) takes on. I've entered a few Gridlife Time Attack events in my 2.0t Camaro. It's a true street car; I drive it all summer, same tires and wheels that go to the track, just a quick pad swap and fluid check the day before and it's good to go. My last event was in 2020 at Gingerman, and I was surprised when other competitors were shocked that I drove the car to and from the event. As far as I could tell I was the only Street class competitor that drove his car there. Now, having a trailer is never a bad thing, but I felt like the spirit of street class had dissolved, and it's been even more evident the last few years as competition has increased. Being a full street car that sees occasional track time, I know I wouldn't be competitive, just saddened that all the other "street cars" were barely able to be street-able.
    Rules are meant to be bent and grey areas found, there's no other way to be at the top, especially in an extremely competitive series like Gridlife. I'm getting back to Time Attack this year, but now with my Cobalt. I had plans of taking all the steps to be competitive, but instead I'm going to build the car how I want and if it ends in a different class, that's okay. I don't have the funds to be a true competitor, so instead I'm just going to have the most fun possible while hanging with probably the greatest group of track enthusiasts I've ever been around.

  • @Shim_Shack_Studio
    @Shim_Shack_Studio ปีที่แล้ว +17

    It's all good man, as en Evolution enthusiast, I turned down the hp in my Evo 9, originally built to 883 hp and some change, wayyyy too much to daily, now I daily 689 hp and some change. Makes a HUGE difference! I can actually enjoy my Evo without the feeling of, "When I am going to die yet?" Lol.

    • @VxO4fame
      @VxO4fame ปีที่แล้ว

      100 hp ? rly? I am not sure what kind of difference this has. Sounds like a tad smaller turbo but thats it?

  • @confuzionn4843
    @confuzionn4843 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love this new direction of video, and this new direction of Ben. The couple of videos about how your evo isn't "better" or that you shouldn't modify your car is something I wish more media made. These shots of you removing your intercooler, without a word, and cleaning it, is cinematic high for car videos. I've only seen that kind of production in movies. It is easy to do build series, throwing money at cars people online will ideologize their entire life, but it is challenging to forgo the internet points for a message that actually matters. Keep doing what you're doing Ben. G&G is the only car channel I follow, and it's for videos like these.

  • @driftingdonuts
    @driftingdonuts ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Great video, Ben. Well put and I agree that street class is likely designed to be more accessible than it is. It shouldn't cost 60k+ to build a competitive street class car, but as competitors we look for every advantage in the rulebook and with that comes spending the money your competitors won't, or doing all of the mods that are "technically" legal.
    Wishing you the best of luck this year, you got some speed!

  • @turbohayabusa01
    @turbohayabusa01 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Good on you for realizing you’ve gone too far on your build and dialing it back for better competition 👍🏼 G&G always being stand up guys

  • @Bmw_Z3R
    @Bmw_Z3R ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Lmao 'Lin is just funny to watch naturally. Good content as always guys! You're gonna kill it this year! I'm coming for ya in '24

  • @soupatroopuh3696
    @soupatroopuh3696 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love my Honda Fit and the Sundae cup because it's not about what you've done to the car, and more about how hard you can push that car and wring out all of it's potential. Your sportsmanship is VERY Admirable, and everyone likes these choices you're making.

  • @louisz8786
    @louisz8786 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've been dying to see more of the MRS. I'm looking to get back into racing. Sadly, I stopped in 06 when I joined the military. I did have a 240sx with a SR20DET I was working on from 09 - 11 but ended up selling it. I didn't have much time for it with all the trips across the pond. Fast forward to 15, the family grew to 4 so time and money went elsewhere. I'm thinking about getting a MRS this year. I don't know what it is, but they have grown on me. I've already started looking into autocross in North Carolina. Fingers crossed by May, I will have a car to work on and race. I'm still in the military, 4 years left, but things are at a point where I have time to peruse my passions. Keep up the fire content!!

  • @pete_bruschi_racing
    @pete_bruschi_racing ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Race, regret, repair 🍻 great attitude and content. I am currently outfitting my EcoBoost Mustang for SCCA TT Sport 3. Considering doing a little Gridlife Street Class just for fun. Gone as crew/spectator before and love the vibe of those events. Good luck, look forward to seeing you back out there.

  • @mouaem1
    @mouaem1 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    You just did what majority of Evo guys do (fbo, cams, e85) and a little extra to make a 400+ awhp car. It's a platform that is simple to make good power on and that is why soo many people like them. The evos have always dominated this way but the new cars today are all very powerful as well and I'm sure in time there will be more guys pushing to the extreme limits of a "street car" as well. I understand where you're coming from though and hope you have a good season.

    • @hungryalien
      @hungryalien ปีที่แล้ว +4

      that pushing to the limit of the rule book is just natural progression for majority of the racers. specially if they are in the top 3 contenders.

  • @codypaniwozik6056
    @codypaniwozik6056 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm building my 370 daily driver to be what I want with the intention of running it in whatever class that puts me in. Full custom hand built body kit an aero are half done, I just finished my custom side exit exhaust and I built my own short throw shifter. I am team of 1 dude with a passion for motorsports that I squeeze in around my military career as well as being a father and husband. To some my car might not be "street comfortable" but every time I get in the car it brings a smile to my face.

  • @RichJ_youtube
    @RichJ_youtube ปีที่แล้ว +4

    A very refreshing mea culpa. It always bothered me that you were running a corporate-sponsored car in a grassroots class.

  • @fvl548
    @fvl548 ปีที่แล้ว

    "Tommi Makinen reborn in the body of an asian man". This was gold! I hit the like button and subscribed. Nice to see you being serious and being able to not take everything too seriously. I am excited now to see how next season will go

  • @gundamzaku214
    @gundamzaku214 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    my ritual is every Saturday afternoon pacific time I go online and watch a newly well made uploaded video from G&G, thank you and please keep up the awesome work that you all do at G&G!

  • @Castleromeo14
    @Castleromeo14 ปีที่แล้ว

    Everything about this video is chef's kiss. The story, the cinematography, the music!!
    I love how it's not hyper-edited like some other car channels where it's literally cinematic booms every 5 seconds and obnoxiously loud royalty free music!
    Underrated car channel!!

  • @ghostpunkkilla
    @ghostpunkkilla ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I think going more stock is a natural progression with age. When I rebuilt my STI went all stock with just reliability mods, 305HP is more than enough for the racing I use use it for.

  • @greysonkeanu
    @greysonkeanu ปีที่แล้ว

    I love the cinematic intro. No talking, no drama n screen text. Just beautiful visuals and clear sound

  • @siwood22
    @siwood22 ปีที่แล้ว

    I died over new years from an ongoing stomach disease, re-binged all of your road trips and projects while in the hospital. Gears and Gasoline is the top TH-cam channel 💪

  • @spencerburke5227
    @spencerburke5227 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I love to see that Ed talks the same talk in real life than he does on the podcast.

    • @GearsandGasoline
      @GearsandGasoline  ปีที่แล้ว +4

      A born hater

    • @spencerburke5227
      @spencerburke5227 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@GearsandGasoline all these holes in his hood and still cant take the heat (I too am the owner of an overheating honda)

  • @_Suzuka_Joe
    @_Suzuka_Joe ปีที่แล้ว +4

    going to stick with my trackdays because after club racing an R6 for a few years its really a money game in that area too. the guys winning are buying $2-3k worth of tires in a weekend and I would go out, buy 1 set of tires per weekend for 3 or 4 races and consistently finish in 4-6th place also having to start at the back of a 14-20 bike grid. I just didnt want to spend the money and after some time got burnt out and sold all my stuff so now I'm doing car trackdays and its a blast.

    • @dancarlos1216
      @dancarlos1216 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I’ve done track days with cars and now bikes, I’m in advanced group but refuse to run a timer. I just do it for fun with friends.

    • @_Suzuka_Joe
      @_Suzuka_Joe ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dancarlos1216 I will say once I stepped up into racing my lap times plummeted but also costs went up.

    • @dancarlos1216
      @dancarlos1216 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@_Suzuka_Joe Yeah that’s what everyone says, but I don’t want it to stop being fun. I usually go once a month.

  • @rushnerd
    @rushnerd ปีที่แล้ว

    FANTASTIC visual storytelling for the intro, very well done.

  • @SilverScarletSpider
    @SilverScarletSpider ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is why we love cars. Honda Civic Type R, Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution, Subaru WRX STi, Toyota GR Corolla, Hyundai Elantra N, Ford Focus RS, Volkswagon Golf R, Honda S2000, Subaru BRZ/Toyota GR86, Mazda Miata MX5, Nissan 370Z, Hyundai Genesis Coupe. Comparing affordable car platforms.
    Working air conditioning, One Way Suspension only. Ban drop knuckles. All seats intact. Only 100 hp allowed more than oem base.

  • @WTFNoNamesLeft2
    @WTFNoNamesLeft2 ปีที่แล้ว

    A 400 WHP EVO is no joke. There are faster cars but not many in all circumstances. Sure there are people with 800WHP [name that chassis] but while they are driving around worried something is going to break all the time the EVO will just run and run at that power level with no issues and no worries. Then when it rains it's not even a contest. Ben you inspired me to buy my second EVO after regret set it following the sale of the first. Thanks for sticking with the chassis and showing the EVO some TH-cam love. Hope to see you at mid-o this year!

  • @ch_chone
    @ch_chone ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I love the discussion Ben. The honesty and self reflection is refreshing.
    To the point of the 2-way adjustable dampers, the counterpoint I've seen argued is that non-adjustable or 1-way dampers have to be really well dialed and designed for the specific chassis via re-valve at a shock tuner. This costs pretty hefty money and is typically only done by nationally competitive, "serious" competitors. By comparison, a 2-way damper only requires that the high speed valving be reasonably correct for curbs and the low speed valving can be dialed in by the user to get the body control the driver desires. The hope in allowing more adjustment on the dampers - somewhat counter intuitively - is actually a less expensive damper. That said, in the world where most casual enthusiasts will never send their dampers to a specialist for a re-tune, that savings of allowing 2-way dampers vs a custom non-adjustable or 1-way adjustable setup is never realized. The end result is that for most users, a 2-way adjustable damper ends up being more expensive. It is a matter of how seriously someone builds to the limit of the rules, as you've discovered.
    So to your point about not liking the addition of 2-way dampers; yes and no. From a practical standpoint, allowing 2-way dampers will likely make an arms race of the "affordable" dampers. From a maximum-limit-of-the-ruleset standpoint, 2-way dampers may actually be cheaper.
    Thank you for posting this video and airing thoughts so candidly. I love watching the action of GridLife, but the class arms race is why I stick to SCCA for autocross and time trials and leave GridLife to those with cars that class well in the GridLife structure. Say what you will about 1,000,745 classes of the SCCA, but it means that my car has a place where competing can be about the driver, not their wallet.

  • @nikketse
    @nikketse ปีที่แล้ว +18

    good on you for down tuning your EVO. I've been following Gridlife ever since I found your channel some years ago.
    I've always wanted to compete in gridlife time attack but watching your videos and many other gridlife competitors, the amount money thrown into these cars are INSANE.
    From watching street class be about actual lightly modded street cars back in 2017, they have become sometimes even faster than street mod class cars and street mod class cars are on par with the fastest cars at the event.. it's really getting out of hand.

  • @Mp4GT3
    @Mp4GT3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I strongly agree with running stock turbo. So many people go nuts with evo's and big power. The moment the oem turbo exits the car, thats when problems begin. Just leave it stock, work on maintenance. Rebuild the transmission, rebuild the coilovers. slap em on, go HAVE FUN. I love these cars.

  • @davegt27
    @davegt27 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    wow 28K views in 3hrs not bad, I am just glad you young people are out there doing something and having fun. I left street cars like 20 years ago and have 2 trailer queens --street cars where the most fun but everyone hated my street car it road like a buck board lol --good luck and keep up the good work

  • @skunch
    @skunch ปีที่แล้ว

    I absolutely love hearing you work on your car with no background music!!!

  • @ibraheemka6386
    @ibraheemka6386 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Much respect to ben you make the streetcars race more enjoyable and im excited to watch the next race with more fair competition, keep the hard work🙌🏼

  • @VxO4fame
    @VxO4fame ปีที่แล้ว

    The first few seconds as soon as u grabbed your intercooler ... I thought NO way?` turbo blew? just like on my evo
    I love the honesty in your video.

  • @CrV_Jr
    @CrV_Jr 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So happy to see the MR coming together!

  • @auyong1566
    @auyong1566 ปีที่แล้ว

    For me i think that the anime midnight wangan said there are two kind of people petrol type and motor oil type person, if u arent the kind of the other type of car then maybe try to be real not faking to become another , maybe this lesson is trying to tell u that maybe u and ur evo had enough to this kind of winning maybe u should step back and completely revert back to a reasonable street car with full interior, livery delete and keep some tasty mod like the suspension for the street. Evo arent just the car to be good at track , they can be good daily fun cruiser if u dont care about the gas mileage just the miata owner do with their miata. It is not about the price nor the speed or even the win , it is the about the happiness and joy that the car gave u when u driving it and enjoying it. Btw thanks for being honest to the audiences about the situation. Great job👍 keep it up

  • @philroman2144
    @philroman2144 ปีที่แล้ว

    This level of modesty, sportsmanship and forward planning is something to look up to! Well done Ben! Keep up the good work!!!

  • @finnthehuman5260
    @finnthehuman5260 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sportsmanship is a real thing and I appreciate you making a video like this. I look forward to seeing you race lin!

  • @iDymff
    @iDymff ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What a chill video. Nice explaining, great storytelling. Very very nicely done.

  • @jesserobinson341
    @jesserobinson341 ปีที่แล้ว

    I absolutely love this episode and I love the direction you're going with this car. High horse power builds are awesome. But if I'm being honest, I don't watch this channel for the high horse power build cars. I watch them for the track experience that you all go through, along with the car builds as an added bonus.
    I like that you recognized that you're on the ragged edge of your class and you're willing to step back on HP to be more inline with the rule set for your class you're competing in. It's really humble and sportsman like.
    I look forward to the S10K completion. I'm looking forward more so to the growth of not just that car, but the growth of you as a driver in that car. I'm hoping it's just as inspiring as you are in the MR2 build and Laynaa build. I wish you and Ben nothing but the best of luck. I just want you and Ben to know that you two really inspired me to build a time attach car of my own a couples year ago and to start my own track adventure. So keep this type of content rolling!

  • @gtiturbo85
    @gtiturbo85 ปีที่แล้ว

    As a competitor in a time attack series in Ontario Canada, I know what it's like to be in a lesser car trying to compete with those who built theirs to the very top limit of the class.. you are a champ for doing this Ben! Good on ya man!

  • @tukiainen2513
    @tukiainen2513 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Kinda wanted to see the evo turning into a unlimited class car or something, but with the amount of cars your building this is a cool aswell.

  • @thomasspicher6260
    @thomasspicher6260 ปีที่แล้ว

    The production value on this video was fantastic!!! You guys are killing it.

  • @2MANYCARS
    @2MANYCARS ปีที่แล้ว

    Main reason I don't sign up for Gridlife & GTA is I know the other cars will always trump my track dedicated S2000, in terms of setup in almost all departments because of tight budget, I'd rather enjoy myself on different tracks with various organizations, competing against the clock & old personal best's. Good luck to you and Ben in 2023. :)

  • @TheUberdude14
    @TheUberdude14 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Seeing that turbo make sure to check the airfilter piping for the missing nut for the turbo shaft on the compressor side

  • @dat_bouy
    @dat_bouy ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Love the editing, feels like a Tarantino film

  • @daltonknapton
    @daltonknapton ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That intro was so enjoyable, great job!

  • @bradysmith3024
    @bradysmith3024 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome video. Nice editing. Great presenter! I enjoyed it, thank you.

  • @dancarlos1216
    @dancarlos1216 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I learned in spec racing years ago, even if forced to use stock engines etc, it’s always pay to win. The fastest teams would always dyno and use the fastest stock parts they could get their hands on, rather than just using what the car came with. Just the nature of racing I guess.

  • @mauricioching6856
    @mauricioching6856 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is the best video from you guys in a while IMO. Very well articulated. Makes me miss the 1 video per week too.

  • @Staatus_Quo
    @Staatus_Quo ปีที่แล้ว

    It's like the villain redemption arc in a book or movie. He realized the evil he did, and is now working to correct the damage. GG.

  • @simbanugz2906
    @simbanugz2906 ปีที่แล้ว

    I respect your decision. Awesome sportsmanship. I Have a built 12 mustang 3.7 ( 320rwhp) with 6r80 and a circle d stall. I had a similar experience in a local drag events it was N/A v6 class. About 24 people showed up over half was 350/370z , handle full of Camaro v6, Challengers, Accord. I ran a consistent 12.5 @ 108mph. With my Circle d convertor , and drag radials I killed everyone to the point it wasn't fun. There were 2 370z that ran close to me (12.7-12.9).

  • @luisking4812
    @luisking4812 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Run the mr-s in the same class!
    It would be amazing to see if you can develop it with lap times (for street class) competitive enough to podium or your evo level!

  • @318East
    @318East ปีที่แล้ว

    A well built set of single adjustable shocks can be just as effective as a set of double adjustables, plus unless someone really knows how to dial in two knobs they can easily make the car worse. I think double adjustables is a welcome addition to ST, and there are definitely street cars out there on them.

  • @Nyitemare
    @Nyitemare ปีที่แล้ว

    Props to Ben for not wanting to ruin everyone else's day. We love spirit of the class, not technicalities of the class.

  • @Desert_Spec
    @Desert_Spec ปีที่แล้ว

    Not only time attack but all of racing is about building the fastest car within the given regulations. You've done exactly that and on top, you're a great driver. Even at the top level, racing isn't fair s don't hold yourself back because you feel bad, I'm sure not many others would do the same for you...

  • @mostlyuselessgarage
    @mostlyuselessgarage ปีที่แล้ว

    ChampCar Endurance Series amateur W2W racing has similar challenges with rich teams pushing the rule limits and budget teams decrying them. All to win a scrap-metal trophy and bragging rights. Racers gonna race! But if once you get past the noise it's the best fun

  • @denstoj
    @denstoj ปีที่แล้ว +1

    2:58 🙌 G'day from the fastest continent.

  • @bengepp9314
    @bengepp9314 ปีที่แล้ว

    🇦🇺 '08 STi owner here 🙋🏿‍♂️
    In our local Hill climb comps some 'Street Class' rules include factory turbo/intercoolers, 98 pump fuel , street tyres . Perhaps this comps vague rule books could be the issue here 🤷🏿‍♂️

  • @slicethxm_4952
    @slicethxm_4952 ปีที่แล้ว

    This Video gives such a nice Cozy Asmr like vibe. A+ Cinematography

  • @tazuehl88
    @tazuehl88 ปีที่แล้ว

    I will say, my EVO 9 SE runs 2 way Ohlins on the street… wouldn’t have it any other way. It’s my dedicated autocross car in “street ultimate” class. Rides like a dream on the road and at every event the turn of some knobs and I’m in full race trim. 2 ways are life.

  • @OppoA-ek4ut
    @OppoA-ek4ut ปีที่แล้ว +1

    At first I thought Ben was gonna light that intercooler on fire lol

  • @treydrake2299
    @treydrake2299 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good on you man you have a lot more gut than a lot of racers I've seen if you know your finding loopholes in the rules and then deciding to not do it. I commend you

  • @zackellis23
    @zackellis23 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It sounds like Gridlife should adopt SCCA Street Class rules. The only issue there is street class would have 10 different sub catagories I.E. turbo cars, Fwd, Rwd Etc...

    • @stagedracing8150
      @stagedracing8150 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Agreed. Gridlife is very much a grey area with street class and swaps. GTA and Gridlife are pretty much money will eventually get wins and records.

    • @zackellis23
      @zackellis23 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@stagedracing8150 yea that’s accurate but it seems like Ben stepped down a turbo size because they changed the rules. Not to level the playing field lol

  • @SturdivantRacing126
    @SturdivantRacing126 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I like that you're humble enough to admit that you're not a driving god.

  • @kkacperowski
    @kkacperowski ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great idea. You’ll have more fun chasing people and increasing driver mod than “out-modding” them.

  • @KingENDLESS
    @KingENDLESS ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for this video.
    It sounds stupid but I’ve put off competing at gridlife for 3 years now because I feel as if my car in my class cannot possibly be competitive. Based on Hp and mods, my 350z track build would wind up in the same class as you. All 270hp, 3300lbs. Even with my best driving I always felt as if with my car I’d never even remotely stand a chance so why bother. I’ve just been turning laps pointlessly at track days instead. Hopefully, gridlife can address this into the future, create a more legitimate “street” spec class. Otherwise I fear an Evo or STI might be in my future 🙃

  • @ZulhilmiGhazi
    @ZulhilmiGhazi ปีที่แล้ว +7

    i would love to see that evo to have ac for a daily basis...

  • @devinherndon56
    @devinherndon56 ปีที่แล้ว

    Preach!! Love this takeaway, regardless of the outcome we are still going to have fun at every GridLife event!

  • @jah2mon
    @jah2mon ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Interesting edits at 2:48

  • @ZelenKai
    @ZelenKai ปีที่แล้ว

    While I'm not running competition laps, I do track my car regularly. There's many mods I know will make my car faster but then I question how "streetable" it would be if I made those changes. I always err on the side of whether I can still drive my car regularly.
    There's a huge difference between a "streetable race car" or a "raceable street car".

  • @anthonyvenkersammy9385
    @anthonyvenkersammy9385 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think what you explained in the video is part of racing. Rarely is racing just about the driver and their skills. It’s really about a combination of driver, the car, your team. In pro racing it really is about the money. I think it’s polarizing because of the grass roots settings but at the end of the day it’s still a competition and people are going to take advantage of whatever they can to get a podium.
    Honestly, despite what you said you will be racing with a car you know very well is above your competition. This isn’t the organization or the their rules fault. That’s just racing.

  • @etruth.
    @etruth. ปีที่แล้ว +3

    We need the Mr-S for this upcoming season!
    Still love Lana thou!

  • @tougewagon
    @tougewagon ปีที่แล้ว

    So much respect to ben for making this video. I cant wait to see more mr2 on track though! Thats my favorite build right now!(sorry small ben, if it makes you feel any better i still hold civics very near and dear)

  • @c.j.cameron1820
    @c.j.cameron1820 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    12:40 “Minimal Shaft play” 😂

  • @Bmw_Z3R
    @Bmw_Z3R ปีที่แล้ว +3

    that turbo had more analog drift than an xbox 360 controller joystick 😂

  • @kcspeed9980
    @kcspeed9980 ปีที่แล้ว

    Well said, I hope to see you next year at New Jersey for my first gridlife event.

  • @Nikkoz33
    @Nikkoz33 ปีที่แล้ว

    This would’ve been my first year competing in Gridlife street class but they changed the ruling to prohibit aftermarket forced induction. Now the factory turbo cars can remain at the top while underpowered cars that need forced induction just to keep up no longer have a place. I think Gridlife just killed time attack.

  • @dub88acc
    @dub88acc ปีที่แล้ว

    First 2:30 is top knotch cinematography. Felt like a scene of a csi movie doing some investigating on whats inside the intercooler

  • @s.a.i.v
    @s.a.i.v ปีที่แล้ว

    You have every right to expose the rules to use to your advantage. Even car manufacturers build vehicles from the factory specifically to compete, like the lighter weigh evo RS competing in the same stock class as its heavier models. Reading between the rules is half of what being competitive is all about. It happens in every competition from sports to academics to politics. Yes it kind of ruins the spirit of sportsmanship, but resource and money is what wins.

  • @teqdigest
    @teqdigest ปีที่แล้ว

    Best intro to a YT car video ever 😂 really encompassed the mundane, unseen, and annoying part to owning anything modified for performance.

  • @greenrolaids
    @greenrolaids ปีที่แล้ว +1

    great content once again. I look forward to see your future videos. The quality and the content are faaabuuuulus. Please collaborate with stanceworks.........

  • @PiroFyre
    @PiroFyre ปีที่แล้ว

    I don't necessarily think the 2 way rule is bad for street class. Having both rebound and compression separately adjustable could be beneficial now that those higher tier turbos are banned to really fine tune the suspension. Also, 2 way coilovers don't have to be overly expensive and require an external reservoir. KW is currently the only company out there that makes a 2 way affordable at under $3k with their V3 lineup.

  • @markstorer7204
    @markstorer7204 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very admirable that you are basically going backwards to still compete in Street class👍👍 let's hope you can win this coming season with a car that is allowed in the new rules 👍👍

  • @mikesti8406
    @mikesti8406 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Love this news, The Evo is why I started watching G&G so it's awesome to hear your bringing back the "STREET" Evo. Maybe you can convince the sponsor to let her run without the wrap. 😂. As always thanks for the content.

    • @svgPhoenix
      @svgPhoenix ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The wrap is so sexy though! And it's not like nobody streets a wrapped car

    • @mikesti8406
      @mikesti8406 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@svgPhoenix It's definitely good looking but not as good looking as a white on white Evo 9. Personal preference of course.