My old band, 12 volt sex, worked with Jerry on our major label debut Stereo Quatro, a few of the clips on this video are from our sessions with him at Conway. He produced 2 songs that were on that album Hook it Up and Breathe. One more song was recorded with him for a movie that never came out. Jerry was a friend and I kept in touch with him over the years and met up sometimes when I was in LA. Happy to answer any questions about his process or anything else. I miss him and I have some great memories. Including, him showing us a video tape of Sum 41 at his house and asking us if he should work with them or not. We unanimously said YES, he’d be dumb to not work with them. ;)
Hey thank you so much! For watching and for making that record! Thing is rad. Watched all the studio footage of you guys too, thanks for capturing the process! Really appreciate you sharing your stories about Jerry! It’s awesome that what everyone says is absolutely true. I’m here for all of it, share as much as you can/want to! Thanks again for your music and for being here on my channel! Really appreciate it.
@@BradDollar I have some crazy stories about the few weeks we spent with Jerry at Conway, most of which will never be told, ha. One of the songs we tracked, that won’t ever be released, was for a movie. It was a collab between us and the Cypress Hill guys. One of those days in the studio was spent laughing non-stop, all day and all night, because it was just so awkward. Another was when Jerry and I went to a private Gibson artist showroom to borrow a few of their new guitars and we ran into and chatted with Eric Idle. We were both big Monty Python fans, so we were a bit star struck. Iggy Pop stopped by to hang a bit while at Conway and Zakk Wylde stopped into our session to tell some stories, just so he could ask if he could have some of our beer in the kitchen and on and on and on. It was sort of a meme between us and Jerry, that my band was a magnet for really awkward situations and we loved every moment of it. Thanks for helping to keep his memory alive.
@randomals 😆🥹❤️ that is both hilarious and heartwarming. That’s so great you got to spend real time making your music. Both with him and each other. That’s how those special moments open up. Is there one thing you learned from him that really sticks with you?
@@BradDollar a couple of things. When recording, he was the first person I knew to use royer 121’s on guitar cabs. I had used other ribbons before on cabs, like a Coles 4038, but ya have to track at such low volumes or you’ll pop the ribbon. We also did some amp splitting into 1 cab, which I had never done before. I’m pretty sure we borrowed Tom DeLonge’s mesa splitter that he had made. I was using my Bogner 101b a lot at the time and I think we blended it with something a bit lower gain. I also remember during mixing, Jerry showed me some basics behind gain staging. He had all of the faders the same level and was adjusting volumes with either the gains on the console or the gains on the outboard gear. I thought that was super cool and really pushed the sound of the pre’s forward into the mix. If you listen to the record, Jerry’s mix of Breathe was kept, but Chris Lord Alge remixed Hook it Up. Chris mixed 4 songs on the album I think. Tom Rothrock and Rob Schnapf produced all of the other tracks that Jerry didn’t produce. Stayed friends with all of those cats and in 2016, I relaunched Tom Rothrock’s label Bong Load Records with him and ran it for nearly 8 years. Lots of great friends were made during that era and it was a transformative time in my life.
Man what a treasure trove you just dropped here! Seriously, the gain staging via preamps really stands out. That’s an old school way of doing things that I’ve only seen one other person do with my own ears (Mike McGinn) and it’s amazing. That makes so much sense with his philosophy and why these records have such pleasant front end saturation. I really appreciate you sharing this! Still got that Bogner by chance?
Thank you! I appreciate that you're doing the same thing. Life is too short not to let someone know they're making an impact. Grateful to have you here!
Amen! I feel like we just scratched the surface here. I'd love to recreate some of these sounds, potentially in some of these places as well. Thank you for being here and watching! I really appreciate it.
This was such an awesome video. I think if Jerry were still with us he’d be flattered at the legacy his records made and how well this summarized his career and personality. Hes made some of my favorite records ever.
I super appreciate that, thank you! There's still so much to learn from how he made music (and many of these legendary engineers and producers who aren't with us anymore). I'm glad this was helpful and found its way to you. Stoked to have you here!
Thank you for watching! Although I love Does This Look Infected, I don’t think Jerry worked on that one. That guitar tone is so good though. The Hell Song and Mr Amsterdam for sure. That said, it’s hard to argue that it wasn’t fully influenced by Jerry Finn. Appreciate you being here!
Hey Carl! So stoked you're here! That's a great record and is such a wonderful snapshot of who he was becoming. I appreciate you reaching out as well! Stoked to catch up more soon. Thank you for being here!
@@BradDollar Ah, I had seen that before but it had 0 listings. Then I figured that I needed to change my settings to "Ships to: Everywhere" because I live outside the US, and everything suddenly appeared! Thanks again for your help
Hey! This video is so awesome and I can’t wait to see more! My only note, and please take this as constructive and not mean, is maybe don’t force your hand movements so much. You are concise and clear, and you don’t need all the motion. Again awesome job!!!
Thank you so much for watching and for the feedback! I’m definitely not forcing it though 😂. I just talk with my hands. That said, much appreciated. Great to have you around!
Close! It's Josh Homme recording drums for Rated R. It's a clip I borrowed from Sound City: th-cam.com/video/Jwskv2G0X8A/w-d-xo.htmlsi=SFCTu5hZTFceRmWZ&t=3720 You deserve a medal! Appreciate you being here and watching.
I’d like to hear his guitar tracks off of enema before they were mixed or compressed by TLA. Tricky to know what the tone was straight out of production vs what TLA does to spruce up the tracks , you know TLA will compress and boost mids/highs. I always wonder how Jerry had the tracks sent out knowing TLA would alter them. I had planned on sending some tracks to TLA and have wondered on if tracks are typically just sent kinda warm, that way they get presence added after the fact, vs sending something I think sounds very clear and basically finished. I figure if something is too clear n crisp there isn’t much wiggle room to play with the tone and make it any brighter or present without it having diminishing returns. That in between process to me in interesting, from initial production tone, to someone who’s experimental in their own right compressing and altering the tones themselves. I feel like the Enema sound is really a TLA sound vs self titled where I think it seems to stay truer to whatever Jerry Finn recorded himself.
Tom Lord Alge is awesome! Love that guy’s work too (Commit this to Memory by Motion City Soundtrack is one of my favorite records of his). When it comes to Jerry though i think it’s more than just the tone. It’s how he got the songs to come to life that really excites me. The best mixers in the world can’t force life or energy into something that doesn’t have it. TLA plays a big role in this era for sure (just like Mark Trombino or Rob Cavallo), but there’s a feel to Jerry Finn records that are just all his own. That said, there’s always room for a TLA video in the near future! Thank you for watching and being here!
all these bands always say Jerry wanted to stay out of the spotlight, never wanted to be in the BTS videos and wanted his privacy respected. now that he’s gone, seems like we’re not properly supporting his wishes by trying to promote his legacy.
Hey thank you for watching! I hear you and I don’t disagree that’s possible. His legacy is here though whether we talk about it or not. I can’t say for sure if he’d be down for it but I can say that his mindset and compassionate approach to making music is timeless. That’s the part that drove me to make this one in the first place. Really appreciate your thoughts, thank you!
Naa. I think if he were asked when still alive… Would you like future recording nerds to have access to your techniques, gear and process etc… after you’re dead? I bet he’d say yep! He was a total audiophile that loved learning about his predecessors techniques as well as teaching tricks and passing them on. He’d be flattered.
@@BradDollarI agree… Jerry was willing to talk about his techniques unlike all these guys trying to keep secrets… He just wasn’t gonna go out of his way to flaunt himself like many do… He was a BTS guy…. And When you live and work in LA you get tired of all the fake bullshitters you have to deal with all around you. Being humble doesn’t mean, not honor his story.
I love this breakdown. All the details from the mic type and placement is really helpful. I was just recommended this video and now i am subscribing.
Thank you for clicking it and watching! Appreciate you being here. Super glad you got a lot out of it.
sing the sorrow all day! love that album. Cool to know about him more.
That’s such a great album! I love the Art of Drowning but the way Sing the Sorrow sounds takes the songs to a whole other level.
Thanks for watching!
Butch Vig was in on producing STS too. However I think his best work is with the Laughing Hyenas and Killdozer from back in his Midwest punk daze
My old band, 12 volt sex, worked with Jerry on our major label debut Stereo Quatro, a few of the clips on this video are from our sessions with him at Conway. He produced 2 songs that were on that album Hook it Up and Breathe. One more song was recorded with him for a movie that never came out. Jerry was a friend and I kept in touch with him over the years and met up sometimes when I was in LA. Happy to answer any questions about his process or anything else. I miss him and I have some great memories. Including, him showing us a video tape of Sum 41 at his house and asking us if he should work with them or not. We unanimously said YES, he’d be dumb to not work with them. ;)
Hey thank you so much! For watching and for making that record! Thing is rad. Watched all the studio footage of you guys too, thanks for capturing the process!
Really appreciate you sharing your stories about Jerry! It’s awesome that what everyone says is absolutely true. I’m here for all of it, share as much as you can/want to!
Thanks again for your music and for being here on my channel! Really appreciate it.
@@BradDollar I have some crazy stories about the few weeks we spent with Jerry at Conway, most of which will never be told, ha. One of the songs we tracked, that won’t ever be released, was for a movie. It was a collab between us and the Cypress Hill guys. One of those days in the studio was spent laughing non-stop, all day and all night, because it was just so awkward. Another was when Jerry and I went to a private Gibson artist showroom to borrow a few of their new guitars and we ran into and chatted with Eric Idle. We were both big Monty Python fans, so we were a bit star struck. Iggy Pop stopped by to hang a bit while at Conway and Zakk Wylde stopped into our session to tell some stories, just so he could ask if he could have some of our beer in the kitchen and on and on and on. It was sort of a meme between us and Jerry, that my band was a magnet for really awkward situations and we loved every moment of it. Thanks for helping to keep his memory alive.
@randomals 😆🥹❤️ that is both hilarious and heartwarming. That’s so great you got to spend real time making your music. Both with him and each other. That’s how those special moments open up.
Is there one thing you learned from him that really sticks with you?
@@BradDollar a couple of things. When recording, he was the first person I knew to use royer 121’s on guitar cabs. I had used other ribbons before on cabs, like a Coles 4038, but ya have to track at such low volumes or you’ll pop the ribbon. We also did some amp splitting into 1 cab, which I had never done before. I’m pretty sure we borrowed Tom DeLonge’s mesa splitter that he had made. I was using my Bogner 101b a lot at the time and I think we blended it with something a bit lower gain. I also remember during mixing, Jerry showed me some basics behind gain staging. He had all of the faders the same level and was adjusting volumes with either the gains on the console or the gains on the outboard gear. I thought that was super cool and really pushed the sound of the pre’s forward into the mix. If you listen to the record, Jerry’s mix of Breathe was kept, but Chris Lord Alge remixed Hook it Up. Chris mixed 4 songs on the album I think. Tom Rothrock and Rob Schnapf produced all of the other tracks that Jerry didn’t produce. Stayed friends with all of those cats and in 2016, I relaunched Tom Rothrock’s label Bong Load Records with him and ran it for nearly 8 years. Lots of great friends were made during that era and it was a transformative time in my life.
Man what a treasure trove you just dropped here! Seriously, the gain staging via preamps really stands out. That’s an old school way of doing things that I’ve only seen one other person do with my own ears (Mike McGinn) and it’s amazing. That makes so much sense with his philosophy and why these records have such pleasant front end saturation.
I really appreciate you sharing this! Still got that Bogner by chance?
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I love your message at the end to share the love. I have been making a concise effort to do this in my life.
Thank you! I appreciate that you're doing the same thing. Life is too short not to let someone know they're making an impact.
Grateful to have you here!
ive watched this like 3 times now. great video, thanks for doing this for Jerry
Aw I SUPER APPRECIATE THAT! Thank you for watching and being here.
awesome video, love all of Jerry's productions. Thanks for doing all this research!
Thank you a ton for watching! Love this dude’s work.
Thank you for the video! Very fun to watch and understandable for me as an absolute amateur with almost zero gear 😅
Thank you for watching! That’s the best part of Jerry’s work is that it’s really accessible to everyone. Great to have you here!
what geffel mic did he use? which one is that
That's a Microtech Gefell UMT70S! Definitely on my list of "must acquire."
Thanks for being here and watching!
We need more videos like this to keep Jerry’s legacy alive!
Amen! I feel like we just scratched the surface here. I'd love to recreate some of these sounds, potentially in some of these places as well.
Thank you for being here and watching! I really appreciate it.
This was such an awesome video. I think if Jerry were still with us he’d be flattered at the legacy his records made and how well this summarized his career and personality. Hes made some of my favorite records ever.
I super appreciate that, thank you! There's still so much to learn from how he made music (and many of these legendary engineers and producers who aren't with us anymore). I'm glad this was helpful and found its way to you. Stoked to have you here!
what a cool ass dude. these albums sound great. thanks for the history lesson on this.
One of the all time greats!
Real happy to have you here!
dear you definitely changed my life too! made me want to start playing music.
Great record! I got into that one a little later than some of these others, but it's rad nonetheless.
Thank you for watching!
i love jerry finn! great video man, thanks for putting all the time and energy into this.
You’re so welcome! Thanks for celebrating him with me. Appreciate you being here!
This was great!
Hey thank you! I’m stoked you found this video. Jerry Finn really was a gift to music.
Stick around! Stoked to have you here. New video this Monday.
Nice video mate!
Thank you a ton for watching! Hope you got something from it.
love for Jerry - so great to see. My fav production is Does this look infected - perfect guitar tone.
Thank you for watching! Although I love Does This Look Infected, I don’t think Jerry worked on that one. That guitar tone is so good though. The Hell Song and Mr Amsterdam for sure. That said, it’s hard to argue that it wasn’t fully influenced by Jerry Finn.
Appreciate you being here!
@@BradDollarjeesh you’re right! I’ve been living a lie… mind blown right now lol. In that case take off your pants and jacket is my fav of his
Good video
I really appreciate that! Thanks for being here.
his first album he produced: Ill Repute's Big Rusty Balls! Check it out.
Hey Carl! So stoked you're here! That's a great record and is such a wonderful snapshot of who he was becoming. I appreciate you reaching out as well! Stoked to catch up more soon.
Thank you for being here!
ill repute so good!
Great video dude! I don't suppose you have a link to the Reverb shop archive because I can't find it anywhere
Do I ever!
reverb.com/shop/techno-empire?query=jerry+finn&showsold=true
Thank you so much for being here and watching! Super glad you like this vid.
I'll put the link in the description too, thank you.
@@BradDollar Ah, I had seen that before but it had 0 listings. Then I figured that I needed to change my settings to "Ships to: Everywhere" because I live outside the US, and everything suddenly appeared! Thanks again for your help
Oh good to know! I didn't realize that. Stoked you found it though!
Hey! This video is so awesome and I can’t wait to see more! My only note, and please take this as constructive and not mean, is maybe don’t force your hand movements so much. You are concise and clear, and you don’t need all the motion. Again awesome job!!!
Thank you so much for watching and for the feedback! I’m definitely not forcing it though 😂. I just talk with my hands. That said, much appreciated.
Great to have you around!
Alkaline Trio man. They weren’t even that big but Jerry f’d wit them.
Absolutely! Jerry had such a great feel for real bands that made some thoughtful and new music.
Thanks a ton for watching and being here!
Crimson by Alkaline changed my life
Crimson is awesome and very underrated!
Thank you for being here and watching this video.
At 9:55 is that Homme doing drums for EODM lol?
Close! It's Josh Homme recording drums for Rated R. It's a clip I borrowed from Sound City:
th-cam.com/video/Jwskv2G0X8A/w-d-xo.htmlsi=SFCTu5hZTFceRmWZ&t=3720
You deserve a medal! Appreciate you being here and watching.
I’d like to hear his guitar tracks off of enema before they were mixed or compressed by TLA. Tricky to know what the tone was straight out of production vs what TLA does to spruce up the tracks , you know TLA will compress and boost mids/highs. I always wonder how Jerry had the tracks sent out knowing TLA would alter them.
I had planned on sending some tracks to TLA and have wondered on if tracks are typically just sent kinda warm, that way they get presence added after the fact, vs sending something I think sounds very clear and basically finished. I figure if something is too clear n crisp there isn’t much wiggle room to play with the tone and make it any brighter or present without it having diminishing returns.
That in between process to me in interesting, from initial production tone, to someone who’s experimental in their own right compressing and altering the tones themselves. I feel like the Enema sound is really a TLA sound vs self titled where I think it seems to stay truer to whatever Jerry Finn recorded himself.
Tom Lord Alge is awesome! Love that guy’s work too (Commit this to Memory by Motion City Soundtrack is one of my favorite records of his). When it comes to Jerry though i think it’s more than just the tone. It’s how he got the songs to come to life that really excites me. The best mixers in the world can’t force life or energy into something that doesn’t have it. TLA plays a big role in this era for sure (just like Mark Trombino or Rob Cavallo), but there’s a feel to Jerry Finn records that are just all his own. That said, there’s always room for a TLA video in the near future!
Thank you for watching and being here!
elder millennial audio heads unite!
Megazord ready to form! Appreciate you being here. I'll keep the videos flowing for our noble kind 😂
all these bands always say Jerry wanted to stay out of the spotlight, never wanted to be in the BTS videos and wanted his privacy respected. now that he’s gone, seems like we’re not properly supporting his wishes by trying to promote his legacy.
Hey thank you for watching! I hear you and I don’t disagree that’s possible. His legacy is here though whether we talk about it or not. I can’t say for sure if he’d be down for it but I can say that his mindset and compassionate approach to making music is timeless. That’s the part that drove me to make this one in the first place.
Really appreciate your thoughts, thank you!
Naa. I think if he were asked when still alive… Would you like future recording nerds to have access to your techniques, gear and process etc… after you’re dead? I bet he’d say yep! He was a total audiophile that loved learning about his predecessors techniques as well as teaching tricks and passing them on. He’d be flattered.
@@BradDollarI agree… Jerry was willing to talk about his techniques unlike all these guys trying to keep secrets… He just wasn’t gonna go out of his way to flaunt himself like many do… He was a BTS guy…. And When you live and work in LA you get tired of all the fake bullshitters you have to deal with all around you. Being humble doesn’t mean, not honor his story.
The hand movements make me uncomfortable
I was out of duct tape. Just watch it at half speed for more comfortable results.
Appreciate you being here all the same!