It's that scene from The Office. "If you want I can totally be mean to (kill) Jessica (Elias) for you." "Oh no, it's fine Kelly (Melanie)." "No it's okay I was planning on being mean to (killing) her (Elias) anyway!"
I was so fine with him killing, he was sassy, he was smart. I really wasn't happy with how he treated Melanie but- making Martin cry? I've never wanted to strangle someone more.
@@apollyoniguess Ok but Jurgen Leitner was annoying so he doesnt count and Gertrude never wanted to die in her sleep so technically he made her dying wish come true but emotionally abusing Melanie and Martin is a bit rude🤷🏻♀️
i have a complicate relationship with my likeness to my father figure, who recently cheated on my mother figure, and an undying love for jon. Inch resting ☝️ this episode is the first one to like made me breakdown rlly
Hearing Martin get sassy just put 20 years back onto my lifespan. Edit: Hearing him sob like that just stole 30, sooooo looks like I’m back to square one.
“I’ve been thinking. It’s not like you got this all-seeing thing recently. You’ve had it the whole time. I remember the way you looked at Sasha after the attack. You knew it wasn’t her. And I reckon you knew Prentiss was lurking under the Institute, too, and you did nothing. Why?” *OOOOOOHHHHHH OHOHOHOHOHO YOU KNOW WHAT THEY SAY ABOUT HEINSIGHT-*
Yeah it was so sad... But at least we heard a man sobs in fiction and that doesn't happen often, so props to Alex's acting and Jonny's writing, I guess ?
Oh Jon the writer of the show has a wife. He also voices Jon in the podcast. It can get a bit confusing. I was just joking around with the crush thing, they're probably just friends.
It's a power play honestly, destroying the mind while the body remains unharmed is in truth one of the most impressive displays of control I can think of
@@someoneawesome8717 yeah, but nobody was doubting his powers? That's the reason they all hate him in the first place. All hes doing is giving them more reason to kill him, dudes terrible at his job lmao Could just tell his employees what theyre supposed to do but instead hes just a petty asshole for no reason 😂
Okay this episode has confirmed my suspicion that the Magnus institute's subordinates are all plagued by the same entity, *The Trauma* . Thank u for coming to my ted talk
freaking damnit i'm trying so hard to not yell right after this episode but now i'm also trying not to wheeze at this comment at the same time it's 2AM I SHOULD HAVE WAITED TIL TOMORROW
God, after all that shit Martin still has enough willpower to be levelheaded. It breaks me he said last episode this was HIS idea. Need a distraction for Elias? Sure, let me get him pissed enough for him to take me through trauma lane. For gods sake this man is a treasure and I love him and I'm sad.
Practically is one of Martin's core personality traits. He stashes extra fire extinguishers and thinks about the best way to remove supernatural parasites (corkscrew). Brings tea and constantly tries to get Jon to get more sleep or go home.
Ok tho Tim this episode gave me total Gemini vibes😅 I guess he always had them it's just that for the last two seasons it's been depressed Gemini vibes 😭😭
Martin's been my favorite character for a while but ohhh god that part at the beginning really put the final nail on the coffin. he deserves so much better
Incredibly strong for Martin to willingly put himself through literal psychological torture for the sake of their plan. He used himself as bait, the poor guy.
"It's baffling, really. Such loyalty to someone who really treats you very badly." "Oh, is that supposed to be, what, a revelation??" Martin sweety my heart 😭
I don't know. Jon treats him pretty normally. Don't expect intimacy from someone just because you like them. Its not like they are in a relationship at this point.
i'm glad to hear martin speaking his mind for once but oh god what followed :( and i'm glad to hear tim cracking jokes again but *oh god* what followed what an emotionally taxing episode
Fucking iconic Martin. I love you WAIT IM HALFWAY THROUGH AND ARE YOU SERIOUSLY TWLLING ME THAT EP 1 ANGLERFISH IS STILL MAKING COMEBACKS IN SEASON 3???
I am torn between the extreme joy of watching Martin lose it and the absolute pain of having Martin lose it in a completely different way 5 minutes later
1. Martin gleefully burning the statements HAHAHAHAHHAAHA. I went ??? when he said “statement ends” and nothing happened. Thought I fell asleep lol. 2. “I can’t hear you, Elias. There’s a door in the way.” 3. Jon and spiders HAHAHAHAAH 4. Jon is starting to manifest tape recorders LOVES IT 5. Sassy Martin ISTG you’re adorable. He’s like a child acting out but better. 6. “Tonight I’m seeing this for the first time...in the flesh” IS JONATHAN STARTING TO ✨SEE✨??? 7. HAHA CIRCUS MUSIC KILL ME. MOM PICK ME UP I’M SCARED. 8. ELIAS BOUCHARD YOU CAN GO OFF ON MELANIE BUT YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO GO OFF ON MARTIN YOU LITTLE PIECE OF SHIT HOW DARE YOU HURT OUR BABIE???????????? HOW DARE- 9. MARTIN GOING FROM SOBBING TO “DID YOU GET IT” is so theatre kid of him 10. WHOOPS LOOK LIKE JON WENT AHEAD AND GOT HIMSELF SHOT AGAIN
really digging how jon and elias manifest their powers....jon uses it to gain knowledge vs. elias uses it to inflict knowledge. jon presents a question and absorbs people's confession of their deepest fear/secret/trauma or whatever it is jon wants from them. elias, who already has this knowledge, seems to regurgitate it back to people to fulfill his bidding. more than narrative foils, which i mean, is easily assumable because elias can just be so rightfully evil...they're like. two sides to one coin. it's why elias can be so transparent and jon...not. and why elias sees jon's "becoming" as something promising. bc he doesn't use his powers to hurt but to...reprieve/comfort?? i could be wrong ofc i still have to catch up but it. makes me think.
Actually to further that, many statement givers say that giving a statement makes them feel good. Rember Elias describing it as a tingling sensation that's pleasent
I 100% fw Elias, he SLAPS as a villain and I love his voice and demeanour but I could visualize him talking to Martin with such a dead-eyed cold malice that my stomach DROPPED 👀
1. I love Martin very much and I'm so sorry 3. Im bouta kill Elias with my bare hands, it's on sight for that wack suit man 4. oh god what the hell is happening oh no this isn't going to end well, eh?
Ok, so we all agree that Elias will always go for the lowest blow. And when talking about Martin's feelings for Jon the most hurtful thing Elias could say would probably be that Jon will never love him back, BUT he didn't say that! So anyways, these idiots will be in a slow burn until the end of time.
Elias sat there like "Hm, so unfortunately my allknowing means that I know that Jon actually might like him back and I can't implant anything into his psyche if it isn't real, sooooooooo..." "Your mom. Fatherless behavior."
First Melanie and now MARTIN? Oh, oh, do you hear that? It's "ending Elias" time (Very good villain and very good acting though wow) Also the Wax museum that isn't really a wax museum party isn't doing very well... I'm very worried. And Tim & John's interraction was very good
Don't have enough understanding of that kind of psychology to know how horrifying Martin's mother saw him as besides being a copy of his dad, what's the deal? I knew that his mom is what elias would use against him but I genuinely thought they had a decent relationship given how martin writes letters to her :(
i don't think it was meant to read THAT dark! rusty quill is pretty explicit about wanting to keep sexual violence out of their work, and it's sadly pretty common for people to abandon spouses who develop illnesses that require a lot of supportive care. martin's mom resenting him for growing up to look like his dad even as he puts everything into caring for her is petty and misplaced and damaging to both herself and her son, but it's a pretty human reaction. and to someone else, it COULD be a huge relief to find out that a parent's distain is rooted in something entirely out of your control and is completely their own issue! but for martin, Knowing how much and why his mom hates him is such a devastating blow because there's nothing he can do to fix or change her perception, and the sacrifices that he's made for her, the care he's given, the love he's shown her were never going to be enough.
Sometimes when a relationship ends really badly, or just at all and the person left behind isn't in a good mental state, they project all that frustration onto whatever is most convenient. For Mrs. Blackwood, it was Martin because he was close, he gave her the care her husband never did, but he looked like the man that betrayed her. Seeing him probably kept reminding her that her husband wasn't there anymore, and she still hated him for it, so she hated Martin for reminding her of it. He kept trying to be a good son because he probably thought that if he figured out what the "right" thing to do was, she'd start loving him.
Oh but YES martin is the peak antagonist for elias. You've got this composed, charismatic omniscient asshole who's chiller than alaska, of course, OF COURSE his one true opposite isnt jon, its Chaotic Good "I have a corkscrew and an unrequited crush on my boss" Martin. God, i love these two and i need more. Preferably some moment of vindication for martin, but arson and "theres a door in the way :)" must have riled him up more than any unknowing ever had.
I wish I could say this to Martin : You are not the man she sees you as martin, no matter what. You might be his son but you are not his copy. you are his mirror, a reflection with the same image, but a person that's different in every way. You are not your father Martin, and I can guarantee you that your mother doesn't hate you, she hates your father and she hates that someone with his face could be as good as you are and she no doubt hates herself for thinking of you like him. You are wonderful Martin, a shining light in a pitch-black pit. And do you know what's best? There is nothing behind it. You are the kind person, YOU are the optimistic goof we all love, YOU and only you, are what keeps our hopes up. There's no entity behind what you do, there's no patron that feeds of the happiness you cause, it's just you. and that's what's good. Its something all of us loves you for. Here, it's not tea, just a hot cup of chocolate with marshmallows, but I'm sure it will bring you delight. You deserve it.
At this point I think he'd actually LIKE to fire Martin. But as much as Elias is an avatar of the Eye, he's not what binds the employees to the Institute. Elias has to tolerate it, to an extent.
Me, before season 3 : Martin. Baby boy. Pure boy. Little angel. What a cinnamon bun. What a lovely one. So calm and conforting. Must protect. Me, after season 3 : Martin, that freaking BADASS. ANGRY BOY. SCARY BOY. ARSONIST. Scheming and ready to face his trauma like a CHAMP. HE LIE AND HIDE IN FRONT OF THE ONE WHO SEES ALL, HOLY DAMN. WHAT A LEGEND. WHAT AN ICON. SO STRONG AND POWERFUL. Must protect.
Rewatching now, and I *just* realized that all three of the statements are recorded, Martin isn't destroying knowledge, he is just removing one copy of information. The tapes still (presumably) exist for those four statements (MAG 008, MAG 035, MAG 103, MAG 86)
The baseline fear plus the joy from the confirmation about Martin's feelings plus horror of hearing him being tortured plus the emotion of Tim and jon interacting plus the adrenaline and dread and anticipation and oh god the human heart wasn't made to handle so many emotions at once !!!
mr newall. mr newall please. you cant just do that to me. all i want to do is hug martin and all you want to do is hurt him. you know what youve done. side note: who ordered the toy soldier to build a ritual to the stranger i stg you know that it'll just obey why would you do something like that
My friend keeps saying I'm going to warm up to Elias, but literally every time I hear anything about him it always makes me want to scoop his eyes out with a spoon even more.
5:40 yeah ok i'm fine its ok everythings ok i'm just going to sit here with my gay shrivelled little heart and try not to squeal so loud that my whole city can hear (update) OH MY GOD 11:00 WHEN MY FRIEND RECOMMENDED THIS TO ME SHE DIDN'T TELL ME ABOUT THIS
A friend of mine really likes horror and I knew she'd like this- so I obviously recommended this to her and now she's sending me excited texts and I haven't even told her about any of this. I can't wait for her to make it to this point because I can already hear her happy screaming. :D
starts the ep: ouh it's Martin Martin: statement ... me: is he going to read an statement? mh odd, well atleast he is using his ti- Martin: *turns on a lighter* me: WOWOWOWMARTIN! WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU DOING????
I have never cried while listening to this podcast but... here we are. Martin's past, his experiences triggered something inside me. As soon as Elias did whatever he did to Martin, I burst out crying like a crazy person. Also, does Martin become a part of the Lonely or something like that? Because I feel like he does. After listening to this ep at least.
The part where jon mentions what he called the anglerfish and everything that came after that painted some very horrifying imagery. And the section where elias makes martin cry and what came after that painted some very very sad imagery that made me cry. So anyway how has your day been.
I've heard this show touches on everyone's fear, no matter how obscure. But even though it's technically covered mine, this show has never really scared me until that last scene. The thumping of the circus music building up while you get to imagine just what exactly the characters are seeing... yeah, that's getting there. I'm very excited for the next episode.
Absolutely no one: reacting to Jon possibly being shot/something similar by daisy who’s lost her senses Absolutely everyone: YO FÛCK ELIAS HE MADE MARTIN CRY
I *LOVE* this podcast. I am so invested in the story and I have come to care so much about all of the characters. I want to gush about everything that has happened so far but I am too eager to know what happens next. 💕💕💕
Martin’s past with his father, confirmed my suspicions that at the beginning, Martin was supposed to just idolise John but the writers were kind enough to change that for us
Well, I guess I just went from “I like Elias, he’s a nice Sassy Villain Guy” to “get your dirty horrid hands off my Martin you bastard” in a span of what? Ten minutes? The power Martin holds over us
Guys I know I’m so late but Martin in the beginning with the really quick flat rebuttals really reminds me of llamas with hats. Just “open the door” “I thought you had a key” reminds me so much of “Carl why’d the boat sticky” “would you believe it’s gods nectar”
If it makes you feel better, I’m pretty sure he was burning old statements that had already been recorded. So the tapes of them still exist. 🙂 (I just recognised the names he read out, so they must be statements we’ve heard before.)
I love how Melanie saw Martin crying and went "do you want me to kill Elias for you? Because I will totally kill Elias for you."
im positive to say alot of us would have helped her if we could
True friendship is both offering to kill an abuser for you AND holding back from killing someone you really want to kill for someone
It's that scene from The Office.
"If you want I can totally be mean to (kill) Jessica (Elias) for you."
"Oh no, it's fine Kelly (Melanie)."
"No it's okay I was planning on being mean to (killing) her (Elias) anyway!"
"sorry elias, i can't hear you, there's A Door in the way" does martin blackwood know i'd die for him
Omg he's so sassy
Everyone will die for him
moments before trouble😢 Elias is just so sadistic damnn
Same
Jon would
"That pathetic dig at my feelings for Jon!" MARTIN, MY CHILD, MY SON 😭
-Martin, open the door.-
*"Sorry, Elias, I can't here you. There's a door in the way."*
Sorry I can't hear you I'm wearing sunglasses
I would literally die for Martin.
I like how all the comments went from "Elias is such a cheeky villain he's great" to "he hurt Martin's feelings bust out the gulliotine"
I mean yea he killed a man before but we have our priorities straight
@@apollyoniguess Killing is fine, it's clean job, but emotionally abusing your workers with magic powers? Nope, that is under the belt.
I was so fine with him killing, he was sassy, he was smart. I really wasn't happy with how he treated Melanie but- making Martin cry? I've never wanted to strangle someone more.
@@apollyoniguess Ok but Jurgen Leitner was annoying so he doesnt count and Gertrude never wanted to die in her sleep so technically he made her dying wish come true but emotionally abusing Melanie and Martin is a bit rude🤷🏻♀️
@@amphitritemists4595 DYING wish OMGGGGGG 🤣
The fact that Elias made Martin SEE how his mother saw him literally made me cry it's time for Brutal Pipe Murder
Yes
i have a complicate relationship with my likeness to my father figure, who recently cheated on my mother figure, and an undying love for jon. Inch resting ☝️ this episode is the first one to like made me breakdown rlly
Hearing Martin get sassy just put 20 years back onto my lifespan. Edit: Hearing him sob like that just stole 30, sooooo looks like I’m back to square one.
“I’ve been thinking. It’s not like you got this all-seeing thing recently. You’ve had it the whole time. I remember the way you looked at Sasha after the attack. You knew it wasn’t her. And I reckon you knew Prentiss was lurking under the Institute, too, and you did nothing. Why?” *OOOOOOHHHHHH OHOHOHOHOHO YOU KNOW WHAT THEY SAY ABOUT HEINSIGHT-*
Yeah it was so sad... But at least we heard a man sobs in fiction and that doesn't happen often, so props to Alex's acting and Jonny's writing, I guess ?
aint that a step back?
You know what they say, 1 step forward, 2 steps back
"turns out my suggestion is... fire!"
HOLY CRAP MARTIN BLACKWOOD YOU ARE PERFECT
He has an entire 0 flaws i love him but its kind of worrying (?) (first time listener)
@@klbzplb no dont worry nothing bad happens to any of them smile :)
@@belugaval144LIAR
@@belugaval144:(
Director to Writer: Haha .. what if my character had a crush😳 ..... . on your character?...lol just kidding.... .. ... unless??😳😳
I think Jon is actually married to his lovely wife... but hey, polygamy
since when does jon have a wife?? do you mean georgie? she's just a friend he was staying with
Oh Jon the writer of the show has a wife. He also voices Jon in the podcast. It can get a bit confusing. I was just joking around with the crush thing, they're probably just friends.
oh pfftsgh
@@mjamin9124 great news about georgie's voice actor, though. aside from the fact that she's sasha
It is officially Kill Elias hours. What's with him and traumatizing folks that don't listen???
He should have taken boxing classes so he could beat them up like a normal person.
Nanahuatli Jurgen Leitner reading this like 👁👄👁
It's a power play honestly, destroying the mind while the body remains unharmed is in truth one of the most impressive displays of control I can think of
@@someoneawesome8717 yeah, but nobody was doubting his powers? That's the reason they all hate him in the first place. All hes doing is giving them more reason to kill him, dudes terrible at his job lmao
Could just tell his employees what theyre supposed to do but instead hes just a petty asshole for no reason 😂
He just wants to get his way, no matter what.
'i guess you don't need skin to sing' SHIVERS
I mean, you don't, technically you just need vocal cords (and most likely lungs)
@@LLG-hj8jf Ehhh maybe a tongue too but that's splitting hairs.
Maybe add a trachea just to help funnel the sound? Don’t even need a full throat really.
EXACTLY, WHY DOES NO ONE TALK ABOUT IT? ABOUT THE STRANGE EXCITEMENT AND INTEREST AND ABSOLUTE TERROR ON JON'S FACE WHEN HE SAYS THAT.
I didn't get that line. I didn't get most of what was going on
Okay this episode has confirmed my suspicion that the Magnus institute's subordinates are all plagued by the same entity, *The Trauma* . Thank u for coming to my ted talk
Encore encore👏👏👏
Encore?
Same picrew avatar!
@@kaitlynbooth9954 omg I've been waiting for this. same hat energy
@@fays.p.5663 or that spiderman meme lmao
Elias hit him hard with the: "You're mom!"
"gay rights but only for me. now onto your mommy issues"
@@frybit4087 AHA
freaking damnit i'm trying so hard to not yell right after this episode but now i'm also trying not to wheeze at this comment at the same time it's 2AM I SHOULD HAVE WAITED TIL TOMORROW
Elias really hit em with the "Fatherless behavior" 💀💀
we are past Bully Elias Hour it is now officially End Elias Hour and I would *not* hesitate to do it with my bare hands
I'd bury his corpse afterwards. Just phone me, my dude.
tfw everyone dies if you kill elias =/
Melenie exactly 2 hours into being employed
@@koukonuts i can bring the shovels
Can I contribute with a metal pipe? Think it would be wonderfully ironic.
God, after all that shit Martin still has enough willpower to be levelheaded. It breaks me he said last episode this was HIS idea. Need a distraction for Elias? Sure, let me get him pissed enough for him to take me through trauma lane. For gods sake this man is a treasure and I love him and I'm sad.
Practically is one of Martin's core personality traits. He stashes extra fire extinguishers and thinks about the best way to remove supernatural parasites (corkscrew). Brings tea and constantly tries to get Jon to get more sleep or go home.
Martin is the bravest boy and I only want to see him happy
Hearing Martin break like that was so heart wrenching. Poor guy..💔
But such a secret badass, knowingly walking into that for the sake of others
I actually had to take a break after hearing that
Mega LunaLexi Same, I had to take a few minutes to recover from that 😬
I'm so sorry but Tim's jokes are lowkey cracking me up
I know! It reminds me of season 1 where everything was mostly alright.
Ok tho Tim this episode gave me total Gemini vibes😅
I guess he always had them it's just that for the last two seasons it's been depressed Gemini vibes 😭😭
Tim stoker, more like Tim joker
Martin burns some paper
*Elias* casts *Vicious Mockery*
Thank. You. Thank you for this comedy.
Nat 20, lets go
I was kind of a fan of Elias's composed, bored, and powerful routine but the second anyone turns on Martin it's pain time
Martin knew what he was doing. I love them both and they'd both hate me about it
Martin's been my favorite character for a while but ohhh god that part at the beginning really put the final nail on the coffin. he deserves so much better
Incredibly strong for Martin to willingly put himself through literal psychological torture for the sake of their plan. He used himself as bait, the poor guy.
"It's baffling, really. Such loyalty to someone who really treats you very badly."
"Oh, is that supposed to be, what, a revelation??"
Martin
sweety
my heart 😭
Jon better get his sh*t together soon and learn how to do emotions better
jon, APPRECIATE HIM!!!
I don't know. Jon treats him pretty normally. Don't expect intimacy from someone just because you like them. Its not like they are in a relationship at this point.
@@katara2021 in the first season jon was really mean to him for no reason, though :/
@@katara2021 he's getting better at treating Martin normally, but for a long while Jon was a total ass for no real reason
'Go on then, ruin my mind'
*knuckle crack* 'Yo mamma...'
Fatherless behavior
“Sorry Elias, there’s a door in the way.” I haven’t laughed so hard in months.
Reminds me of when Michael was like,
"😁You need..... a dooor..", also cracked me up despite the situation
absolutely love the idea of Martin turning on the tape recorder so that Jon can hear him bothering Elias
i'm glad to hear martin speaking his mind for once but oh god what followed :( and i'm glad to hear tim cracking jokes again but *oh god* what followed
what an emotionally taxing episode
Fucking iconic Martin. I love you
WAIT IM HALFWAY THROUGH AND ARE YOU SERIOUSLY TWLLING ME THAT EP 1 ANGLERFISH IS STILL MAKING COMEBACKS IN SEASON 3???
“I am well aware that you’ll do just about anything for him. And I don’t need to read your mind for that one” DAMN 😭😭😭
I am torn between the extreme joy of watching Martin lose it and the absolute pain of having Martin lose it in a completely different way 5 minutes later
1. Martin gleefully burning the statements HAHAHAHAHHAAHA. I went ??? when he said “statement ends” and nothing happened. Thought I fell asleep lol.
2. “I can’t hear you, Elias. There’s a door in the way.”
3. Jon and spiders HAHAHAHAAH
4. Jon is starting to manifest tape recorders LOVES IT
5. Sassy Martin ISTG you’re adorable. He’s like a child acting out but better.
6. “Tonight I’m seeing this for the first time...in the flesh” IS JONATHAN STARTING TO ✨SEE✨???
7. HAHA CIRCUS MUSIC KILL ME. MOM PICK ME UP I’M SCARED.
8. ELIAS BOUCHARD YOU CAN GO OFF ON MELANIE BUT YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO GO OFF ON MARTIN YOU LITTLE PIECE OF SHIT HOW DARE YOU HURT OUR BABIE???????????? HOW DARE-
9. MARTIN GOING FROM SOBBING TO “DID YOU GET IT” is so theatre kid of him
10. WHOOPS LOOK LIKE JON WENT AHEAD AND GOT HIMSELF SHOT AGAIN
Wait you think he was faking those tears I think that one might have been genuine
*begins to chant 'i hate elias'*,
*chants with you
@@ash.g1310 momento mori
@@kaitheferret2229 UNUS ANNUS
@@SuperClass3000 UNUS
*Chanting along*
really digging how jon and elias manifest their powers....jon uses it to gain knowledge vs. elias uses it to inflict knowledge. jon presents a question and absorbs people's confession of their deepest fear/secret/trauma or whatever it is jon wants from them. elias, who already has this knowledge, seems to regurgitate it back to people to fulfill his bidding. more than narrative foils, which i mean, is easily assumable because elias can just be so rightfully evil...they're like. two sides to one coin. it's why elias can be so transparent and jon...not. and why elias sees jon's "becoming" as something promising. bc he doesn't use his powers to hurt but to...reprieve/comfort?? i could be wrong ofc i still have to catch up but it. makes me think.
Actually to further that, many statement givers say that giving a statement makes them feel good. Rember Elias describing it as a tingling sensation that's pleasent
Martin: (burns important documents and sasses a powerful avatar of the Eye who is also his boss)
Me: YOU'RE DOING GREAT SWEETIE!!!! 💕💖💗💘💋💞
Frfr
I’m sorry all I hear is jacksepticeye lol
I 100% fw Elias, he SLAPS as a villain and I love his voice and demeanour but I could visualize him talking to Martin with such a dead-eyed cold malice that my stomach DROPPED 👀
1. I love Martin very much and I'm so sorry
3. Im bouta kill Elias with my bare hands, it's on sight for that wack suit man
4. oh god what the hell is happening oh no this isn't going to end well, eh?
What happened to 2?
@@susCreature got burned
Ok, so we all agree that Elias will always go for the lowest blow. And when talking about Martin's feelings for Jon the most hurtful thing Elias could say would probably be that Jon will never love him back, BUT he didn't say that! So anyways, these idiots will be in a slow burn until the end of time.
Well when you put it like that... HAHAHA
Elias sat there like "Hm, so unfortunately my allknowing means that I know that Jon actually might like him back and I can't implant anything into his psyche if it isn't real, sooooooooo..."
"Your mom. Fatherless behavior."
First Melanie and now MARTIN? Oh, oh, do you hear that? It's "ending Elias" time
(Very good villain and very good acting though wow)
Also the Wax museum that isn't really a wax museum party isn't doing very well... I'm very worried. And Tim & John's interraction was very good
I'm just imagining Elias rushing down flights of stares the moment he realizes Martin is burning statements and it's so darn funny omg
HE HIT THE DOOR IN FRUSTRATION I'M CACKLING
it's gives me the vibes of a parent trying to discipline a child I cannot rn
Elias worst crime wasn’t murder no it was hurting our precious boy Martin
Don't have enough understanding of that kind of psychology to know how horrifying Martin's mother saw him as besides being a copy of his dad, what's the deal?
I knew that his mom is what elias would use against him but I genuinely thought they had a decent relationship given how martin writes letters to her :(
TH /// i think maybe what martin saw was the memories/feelings his mother has upon seeing him?? thinking about it makes me really really sad oh god
i don't think it was meant to read THAT dark! rusty quill is pretty explicit about wanting to keep sexual violence out of their work, and it's sadly pretty common for people to abandon spouses who develop illnesses that require a lot of supportive care. martin's mom resenting him for growing up to look like his dad even as he puts everything into caring for her is petty and misplaced and damaging to both herself and her son, but it's a pretty human reaction. and to someone else, it COULD be a huge relief to find out that a parent's distain is rooted in something entirely out of your control and is completely their own issue! but for martin, Knowing how much and why his mom hates him is such a devastating blow because there's nothing he can do to fix or change her perception, and the sacrifices that he's made for her, the care he's given, the love he's shown her were never going to be enough.
Sometimes when a relationship ends really badly, or just at all and the person left behind isn't in a good mental state, they project all that frustration onto whatever is most convenient. For Mrs. Blackwood, it was Martin because he was close, he gave her the care her husband never did, but he looked like the man that betrayed her. Seeing him probably kept reminding her that her husband wasn't there anymore, and she still hated him for it, so she hated Martin for reminding her of it. He kept trying to be a good son because he probably thought that if he figured out what the "right" thing to do was, she'd start loving him.
I love Martin so much it‘s unreal, the balls this dude has I SWEAR
Oh but YES martin is the peak antagonist for elias. You've got this composed, charismatic omniscient asshole who's chiller than alaska, of course, OF COURSE his one true opposite isnt jon, its Chaotic Good "I have a corkscrew and an unrequited crush on my boss" Martin. God, i love these two and i need more. Preferably some moment of vindication for martin, but arson and "theres a door in the way :)" must have riled him up more than any unknowing ever had.
I wanna give Martin a hug, his sobbing was heartbreaking:(
Elias is best psychopath. Really wish there were more villains like him.
Ikr! He’s great
Agree
I wish I could say this to Martin : You are not the man she sees you as martin, no matter what. You might be his son but you are not his copy. you are his mirror, a reflection with the same image, but a person that's different in every way. You are not your father Martin, and I can guarantee you that your mother doesn't hate you, she hates your father and she hates that someone with his face could be as good as you are and she no doubt hates herself for thinking of you like him.
You are wonderful Martin, a shining light in a pitch-black pit. And do you know what's best? There is nothing behind it. You are the kind person, YOU are the optimistic goof we all love, YOU and only you, are what keeps our hopes up. There's no entity behind what you do, there's no patron that feeds of the happiness you cause, it's just you. and that's what's good. Its something all of us loves you for. Here, it's not tea, just a hot cup of chocolate with marshmallows, but I'm sure it will bring you delight. You deserve it.
Yes 💛
Awww 😊
I'm not crying you are (seriously though I love your comment)
All the kind words and hot chocolate for martin
Ong this ♡ I wanted to hug him so bad or pat his head at least (obv only if wanted but ykwim)
Love how Elias' go to when dealing with unruly employees is to give them a dark revelation about their parents.
At this point I think he'd actually LIKE to fire Martin. But as much as Elias is an avatar of the Eye, he's not what binds the employees to the Institute. Elias has to tolerate it, to an extent.
Hahaha i saw an animation titled "Martin commits arson" but didn't want to watch it for spoilers. Now I get it. 8:00 ohhhhno. Music!!
Music!! yay!!
Me, before season 3 : Martin. Baby boy. Pure boy. Little angel. What a cinnamon bun. What a lovely one. So calm and conforting. Must protect.
Me, after season 3 : Martin, that freaking BADASS. ANGRY BOY. SCARY BOY. ARSONIST. Scheming and ready to face his trauma like a CHAMP. HE LIE AND HIDE IN FRONT OF THE ONE WHO SEES ALL, HOLY DAMN. WHAT A LEGEND. WHAT AN ICON. SO STRONG AND POWERFUL. Must protect.
i’m back, i just can’t stop listening to this for some reason
also as much as i hate elias, i love his voice tbh
i love the way it sounds
It's a Loki Situation for me. Do I like the person? No. But the voice very nearly makes up for the bad behaviour.
same?? his voice is just beautiful
I'm pretty sure I'll return to this ep as well
fr his voice is very cool
Rewatching now, and I *just* realized that all three of the statements are recorded, Martin isn't destroying knowledge, he is just removing one copy of information. The tapes still (presumably) exist for those four statements (MAG 008, MAG 035, MAG 103, MAG 86)
YOU'RE SUCH A BIG DAMN HERO MARTIN I LOVE YOU
martin i love you i love you so much
The baseline fear plus the joy from the confirmation about Martin's feelings plus horror of hearing him being tortured plus the emotion of Tim and jon interacting plus the adrenaline and dread and anticipation and oh god the human heart wasn't made to handle so many emotions at once !!!
mr newall. mr newall please. you cant just do that to me. all i want to do is hug martin and all you want to do is hurt him. you know what youve done.
side note: who ordered the toy soldier to build a ritual to the stranger i stg you know that it'll just obey why would you do something like that
The Toy Soldier is just vibing and having fun. Leave it alone. Let it dance. 😄
Tim cracking jokes for a sec was happy feelings
The beginning is just Martin Burns Papers (ASMR)
hearing martin cry made me so sad asgsdfgsdfg also the music is so beautiful and hypnotic but it just sounds so wrong ugh
TEA-OKAY ELIAS CALLING MARTIN OUT FOR DOING A N Y T H I N G FOR JON
"and I don't need to read your mind to know that" GFGCHFGKDGNK
If my boss just stopped at "your mother" and made a your mom joke, I think that would've broken me more than my already existing trauma
My friend keeps saying I'm going to warm up to Elias, but literally every time I hear anything about him it always makes me want to scoop his eyes out with a spoon even more.
well-
what an accurate episode description
"the lads go on a field trip"
5:40
yeah ok i'm fine its ok everythings ok i'm just going to sit here with my gay shrivelled little heart and try not to squeal so loud that my whole city can hear
(update) OH MY GOD 11:00
WHEN MY FRIEND RECOMMENDED THIS TO ME SHE DIDN'T TELL ME ABOUT THIS
A friend of mine really likes horror and I knew she'd like this- so I obviously recommended this to her and now she's sending me excited texts and I haven't even told her about any of this. I can't wait for her to make it to this point because I can already hear her happy screaming. :D
I have so much respect for Martin :(
Knowing Jon will listen to the tape of Martin crying …
Martin: *gets hurt by Elias*
Me: *sharpens sword with malicious intent*
"Or Paul was in a car crash, that's a classic."
Oh Tim, you really are the best.
Martin being a little shit and joyfully taunting Elias gives me life!
Martin telling Elias to shut up hurt me on a different level
THE VOICE ACTING GOD, I felt Martin' cry in my soul.
I love Elias as a villain, he is just so manipulative. Soon all his plans will fall, I know.
dude elias saying "turn the tape off, martin" made my blood run cold 😭😭
MARTIN NO D: OKAY YEAH I HATE ELIAS NOW HOW DARE HE,,, but also martin is strong af
starts the ep: ouh it's Martin
Martin: statement ...
me: is he going to read an statement? mh odd, well atleast he is using his ti-
Martin: *turns on a lighter*
me: WOWOWOWMARTIN! WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU DOING????
I have never cried while listening to this podcast but... here we are. Martin's past, his experiences triggered something inside me. As soon as Elias did whatever he did to Martin, I burst out crying like a crazy person. Also, does Martin become a part of the Lonely or something like that? Because I feel like he does. After listening to this ep at least.
The part where jon mentions what he called the anglerfish and everything that came after that painted some very horrifying imagery. And the section where elias makes martin cry and what came after that painted some very very sad imagery that made me cry.
So anyway how has your day been.
I've heard this show touches on everyone's fear, no matter how obscure. But even though it's technically covered mine, this show has never really scared me until that last scene. The thumping of the circus music building up while you get to imagine just what exactly the characters are seeing... yeah, that's getting there. I'm very excited for the next episode.
Absolutely no one: reacting to Jon possibly being shot/something similar by daisy who’s lost her senses
Absolutely everyone: YO FÛCK ELIAS HE MADE MARTIN CRY
I *LOVE* this podcast. I am so invested in the story and I have come to care so much about all of the characters. I want to gush about everything that has happened so far but I am too eager to know what happens next. 💕💕💕
God i have never hated Elias more then when he did that with Melanie. On gods its ON SIGHT. IT IS O N. S I G H T.
Poor Martin is like “do your worst”
Elias: ur mom
Martin: ..shit
DAISY NOO
When the first statement went up in flames my face was literally
mouth drops in glee
GO TF OFF, MARTIN!!!
The acting of Martin crying was brutal
Is it wired that I really like how the unknowing music sounds, I'm obsessed.
Martin’s past with his father, confirmed my suspicions that at the beginning, Martin was supposed to just idolise John but the writers were kind enough to change that for us
Well, I guess I just went from “I like Elias, he’s a nice Sassy Villain Guy” to “get your dirty horrid hands off my Martin you bastard” in a span of what? Ten minutes? The power Martin holds over us
Guys I know I’m so late but Martin in the beginning with the really quick flat rebuttals really reminds me of llamas with hats. Just “open the door” “I thought you had a key” reminds me so much of “Carl why’d the boat sticky” “would you believe it’s gods nectar”
OMG Martin's SASS
After such a heavy episode, coming down here and seeing everyone simping over Martin refreshes my life force
that description of the wax museum was!! horrifying!!
𝕐𝕠𝕦 𝕒𝕣𝕖 𝕞𝕪 𝕗𝕣𝕚𝕖𝕟𝕕 𝕟𝕠𝕨! 𝚆𝚑𝚒𝚌𝚑 𝚎𝚗𝚝𝚒𝚝𝚢 𝚊𝚛𝚎 𝚢𝚘𝚞 𝚖𝚘𝚜𝚝 𝚊𝚕𝚒𝚐𝚗𝚎𝚍 𝚠𝚒𝚝𝚑?
"internal management dispute"
Does Elias know the entire fandom is after him? We have an arsenal of metal pipes at the ready
For a split second at the beginning I thought Martin was smoking while reading a statement and I audibly gasped 😂😂
i was listening and even though i like martin quite a lot just when he was burning the statements i just felt kinda bad, don't destroy knowledge, pls
If it makes you feel better, I’m pretty sure he was burning old statements that had already been recorded. So the tapes of them still exist. 🙂
(I just recognised the names he read out, so they must be statements we’ve heard before.)
sounds like what an avatar of the eye would say... kinda sus
@@f_mva John is an avatar 🧍♂️
@@zaki4418 i was talking about the commenter, not jon, lmao
eLiAS, it's on SIGHT 🔫🤠
Hey I think there’s something wrong with my Archival Assistant, I didn’t order relatable childhood trauma to come with it
Martin really IS of The Web wow
"I cant hear you. Theres a door in the way" martin is so me
11:17 Here, I feel like we needed a marker for THE Moment