I know this was a joke but strangely enough, pedals are right handed. When a lefthanded player holds their guitar, the guitars output jack is on their left side, (think of where your output jack is). The inputs of most pedals are on the right side. This means that your cable has to cross from one side of you to the other to plug it in, (wah pedals are bad for this - sometimes the cable goes under the rocker preventing movement). Many times ive gone to hit a pedal but the cable is in the way. Its not really an issue, but it is something you need to work around with your setup:)
Some useful *time stamps* to compare profiling vs. original side-by-side (w/o knob tweaking): 1. Tele sound like Strat = 4:42 vs. 5:08 2. Tele sound like "Gretsch" = 6:05 vs. 6:17 3. Tele sound like PRS = 6:56 vs. 7:04 4. Tele sound like ES-335 = 8:10 vs. 8:31
@Martin G Nice comments mate, I play guitar, But am Profoundly deaf, Have to wear hearing aids of course, I know the controls were sensitive, But FFS, I didn't hear any difference, any clues
Have you seen the Jaymz pedal that makes your guitar sound like him grunting "Yeahhhhhhhh" in different pitches? The later editions have more dirt and are twice as wide.
@lslranchi I’m gonna try that and I saw a plug in program by Sonic Projects called OP-X PRO 3 that can make keyboards and guitars sound like any song out there! All bases will be covered!
Once I had Brad Whitford's 1971 Marshall 1/2 stack, and 58' Les Paul in my Hollywood apartment after it was worked on by my roommate, and amp tech at Ocean Way Studio. He let me play the rig for about 1 minute, then we both knew the neighbors might call the cops...but I was in heaven! Ah', if only a Kemper and this Mooer Tone Capture GTR were there...and it wasn't 1987.
I can say this pedal is even more capable than what is shown on this demo. You need to play more chords and some scales that cover more of the range of each guitar for the pedal to better capture the tone of each guitar. I tried it on my strat and jazzmaster and it is really convincing for me. I also tried capturing one pickup and applying that on another pickup on the same guitar and it works near perfect. What I also tried is capturing the source pickup with the tone knob full and target with the same pickup with tone knob at 6, and then playing with the tone knob full again with the pedal on, I have the sound as if I was above full on the tone knob (like 15 on the tone knob). You can also use the pedal as a simple parametric eq without capturing anything. I wish they offered a way to download different source and target settings so you could play those instruments which you don't have access to capture it's tone, since it has a usb port already.
Really impressive. What's making different guitars so much fun, though, is also the difference in playability and how it behaves generally. So it's great for gigging musicians getting 80% of the sound with just 10% of the haul. But it doesn't replace the feel.
@@federicozanetti8145 thx didn't know that. Have found very mixed results on YT but some were really convincing. Actually i did go another route and bought a tele and a strat from harley benton for sum 300 € and was absolutely amazed by tone/playability vs. price even compared to my authentic (haha) G LP '71 deluxe goldtop
*LIFE HACK* if you only own one guitar, bring this pedal down to the guitar shop and store all the expensive guitar tones into this bad boi thank me later! :D
Mooer is absolutely killing it. Mooer and Joyo, I would put them in the same league. These Chinese brands are revolutionizing guitar world by bringing top-notch tech and tone to pretty much everyone. I wish these companies all the success.
The strat tone on the 335 sounded *very* similar. Seems to work better on humbuckers trying to mimic single coils. Something about the attack perhaps. The 335 tone on the tele wasn't as close... Still sounded like a tele.
Exactly my thoughts. If you have a guitar with humbucker and you try to sound like a specific single coil guitar (like a strat) you get decent results but it's not so good the other way around. I wonder how the 335 would have sounded if had coil split option, I really wanna know now.
Amazed everyday at the modeling capabilities in modern electronics. Great Time to be alive with a guitar.. (in that order) 8)). This definitely is usable in a lot of cool ways.
If Mooer and Kemper partnered up to do entire celebrity rigs, that would be awesome. I mean, go to Angus Young and have him play through his rig while hooked up to this and a Kemper. Artists merchandise everything else, why not a clone of their sound? Can you imagine what people would pay to have an exact replica of John Mayer's tone for example?
I dont think it gives a 100% solid capture, BUT what it does do is just as valuable because it gives you another usable tone for your guitar. There is a lot of stuff out there that doesnt even get close to doing that. Great job Mooer!
Dude I love your channel and a I'm biased lefty of 52 years - 37 trying to play good. I was talking to myself,er, my cat thinking that as with the Kemper, the time is now....well after watching a while... nah-so-much yet...bummer. The tech will definitely get there, but this is just a waaaay-early teaser....maybe 10% of what's to come. With this pedal, it's delivery is unfortunately even less than digi-emulations of fuzz pedals for the last near 20yrs - sorry folks but digi-fuzzes are smooth distortions at best, the beauty of discrete analog fuzz is it's unpredictable sizzle/sputter and delivery. Tech will get there, it's just gonna take a little more time - same with the guitar emulations :) Thanks very much again ITB!!!
I'm so glad you did a comprehensive rundown on this device. I've been a huge proponent of mooer for quite some time, and continuously have to explain to people that electronics will let you pay whatever the marketers demand for them, despite them all being fairly simple circuits that all work in similar ways.
Nice!! I can see this being useful for a gig or studio and you just want to bring one guitar. Unless you are extremely particular about a certain guitar’s tone, this pedal does a good job of simulating the vibe of different guitars. I want it!!! Thanks mate!!!! 🎸🎸🎸🤙🏾🤙🏾🤙🏾
Humbucker to single coil was pretty impressive, although I could hear that the attack was very different (not necessarily bad). Would've liked to hear how it would handle one of the in-between Strat positions, since having one of those as an option on a humbucker guitar would be great.
It's a "good enough" solution, and that is really good enough 90% of the time. Getting good enough stuff makes your life easier and keeps you sane with some money in your pocket.
I love that even though it’s not 100% correct, it’s really useful and great. Some modeled better than others, I still say this is remarkable and would be great to have in a guitar player’s arsenal. I love it
Shane this is great. I only have room for 2 guitar's on stage. Hopefully v2 will be more live play friendly. Would be nice to ecpand the arsenal. Great demo as always. Your insight and ear have saved me tons of money.
You can load an acoustic guitar IR on Mooer Radar - it works perfectly, especially with 3sigma impulses :) I wouldn't be so sure, if it works on this pedal :/
The ES definitely took on some of the strat singlecoil characteristics, however I have a few friendly suggestions: 1) I think your first source guitar was a poor choice. It's a beautiful instrument, but doesn't sound like a traditional tele as a result of the humbuckers. It sounds like a fender-scale instrument with hum-cancelling pickups. Honestly, you could put those pickups in a strat and it'd essentially sound the same. I'd suggest using an instrument with very traditional pickup tone/sound so the audience knows what characteristic pickup differences they're listening for. 2) Choose 2 - 3 well known pickups: i.e. a strat singlecoil , a les paul humbucker and guitar with P-90s. That would be a better test - can the pedal actually emulate the pickup characteristics? Can it make a singlecoil sound like a P-90 and humbucker? Can it make a P-90 sound like a Humbucker and singlecoil? etc. Trying to show the difference between two different types of humbuckers really won't show where this product's potential lies. I want an opportunity to see if this pedal can emulate the characteristic differences between pickup types (like the ES through the strat bank). 3) Give 3 examples for each bank: i) the sound of the source instrument dry, ii) the sound of the targeted bank (then adjust the pedal to better emulate the patch), iii) the sound of the original instrument it's supposed to be emulating. This might involve editing your videos. I think these suggestions would allow for a more accurate representation of the pedal (whether good or bad). That being said, that I'm still skeptical of the product.
What if you profile a piano with a piezo, or a OP-1 synth. I'm interested to see if it can be used for profileing instruments other than a guitar, and the result would be.
I found 20 year ago while playing with convolution, the one included in Windows 95's Cool Edit wave editor. That any noisy-dissonant sample like: pulling chains, waterfall's noise, a big bird pack and of course white/brown/pink noises. Give awesome textures and out-of-this-world timbres (many of them totally usable) when convoluted with drums or synths (of course guitars). Using that method, I took a chain pulling sample and convoluted a funky drummer based drum track, it gave me the coolest futuristic drum&bass metallic funky sound. I just added a deep bassline with a single cycle sine wave on my Yammy A3000 sampler (gosh, good times, gold era of sampling, today not much synthesis with samples, this days sampling is like just looping other people's samples). But don't really know the results with modern IR machines.
@@levgtz8158 that is cool! In the late-90s I also did some experimental sampling as well. I always wondered if someday someone would build a guitar pedal to play loadable samples with no latency :)
@@pudnoise1 This little IR pedals are great, like the Radar if f*cking cool that you can feed your guitar and plug your headphones on that little pedal and you're ready to practice while stuck on traffic. But to me all modern pedals are overpriced, very little exceptions. I see the HX Stomp a really good platform for sound design (including live IR capture) and it let's you work with or without amp, with usb or line-level, even without guitar, because of it's REAMP feature lol and those Helix amps sound really good (at the end I always like to feed the audio to analog ss or valve to make emulation shine )
While this pedal does'nt make the tele sound exactly like the other guitars, its pretty close. How cool is this, very small and inexpensive, cool for the bedroom, studio or gigging!
Actually close enough to be legit. Interesting. I'm highly sensitive to differences also everyone always tells me it's in my head until I prove it to them one way or another lol.
Hey Shane, that's awesome 🤘 tanx for reviewing this pedal. How does it compare to the Keyztone Exchanger pedal? FYI. You're pronouncing Mooer correctly 👍
Looks and sounds like a fun little pedal for the price. Side note: I notice that you hardly look at your guitar while playing. I was told to do this a while ago, and I think it was great advice. It not only gives you better muscle memory, so that you hit the right frets and strings without looking, but it also allows you, I think, to feel the music better and put more feeling into your playing. So, all in all, you're a pretty cool bloke, well, apart from being an Aussie. No one's perfect. ;)
I guess the differences in pickups aren't that huge on paper but to our ears it's the minute differences that give it a different feel. So unless it's literally bang on it's not that great as it just sounds different to what it's trying to emulate.
I knew it was only a matter of time. Personally, I think it's way better suited to live applications as you'd have generally one guitar live and all the rest of your guitars ARE in the studio. What it needs is an update: long press the foot switch to send it into a cycle mode, short press on/off.
How about profiling an acoustic or make a 6 string sound like a 12 string? I wonder how it would handle that? If it could do the acoustic part that could save me from two guitar changes.
Great video.. First time I've seen this product period. I thought they sounded really close. Really close. I mean it would work in a pinch in a gig if you only wanted to bring a couple guitars but sound like the others you have at home for some reason.. Thanks for this.. Very much..
They should make a bass version, instead of strumming you hit one string until it registers the note and move onto the next string. It'd be really cool to be able to capture the tone of an old vintage Fender or Gibson bass using this technology and played on a modern bass, since a lot of vintage basses at this point would be well worn-out by the road and might get damaged.
Here's something a little different for everyone. This IR technology is pretty cool. Wait till you hear the 335 sound like my Strat! 🤯😄. What do you think of the Mooer Tone Capture GTR? Buy it online (Thomann) - bit.ly/2ZddhaV (affiliate link)
Interesting! For shits n giggles, TRY sampling an ACOUSTIC guitar profile then using an electric on it. See HOW close it gets. Oh & btw, Shane, please, LOSE that cheesy American begging voice over! It's not working! Cheers! \m/
intheblues Shane, you gotta be able to pronounce the companies name. The management is probably cringing right now! Sorry dude. I don’t want companies to hold anything against you.
@@roblarson9065 The joke is, every time I pronounce it, someone corrects me irrespective of how I've said it consistently in the past. I doubt they are cringing as having potential eye-balls on their product is probably more important.
I think mooer did an ok job but I’d like a great company like strymon or boss try this. I think they have the brains and technology to get it closer to better sounds.
The tele is not as dynamic as the strat and that’s the real problem due to the blade humbuckers. To me your strat sounded the most dynamic so I would have used that as the source and made it sound like the others. It’s not bad but as you say it’s not great live. Tbh I could see it been good for when you want to take just a strat to a gig and kick pedal on to clone your les paul.
You could bias the modeling with little EQ adjustment for the "host" guitar then reajust the EQ the way it should be. I'm sure there is a way to get 95% there with some additional experiments. Great demo ! Thank you ! Mooer says you can adjust the "modeling" and "EQ" to obtain your sound. Question : once you listen to the modeling result, then reajust the EQ to your liking, can you "save" your new EQ's choices "over" the modeling ? Thanks !
Amazing little pedal! Damn that ES335 sounds like a stratI My Mooer GE300 (Shane you must review one of these)has this function as well I am going to have to give this a go . Cheers great as always!!
Here's the use I see for my personal use. I prefer bringing my ES-model to rehearsals because simply for practical reasons - it is light to carry. But I have a custom tele which has the best overall sound. If this little tool will make the ES sound like a close facsimile of the custom tele it will be the best of both worlds. It really doesn't need to be *exact*. Also the volume knob and the eq give extra boost and adjustability to suit the specifics of the rehearsal studio acoustics. And the price.. Well, that's a non issue. Judging from this video, I get the feeling it will do the job. Peace.
Pretty cool. Not perfect, of course, but everything still sounds quite musical with honest guitar tone. It’d be cool to try a Les Paul with the Peter Green mod to see if it can capture that cool out-of-phase sound. Also, can it capture the sound of an acoustic guitar? Maybe I missed that in the video.
David Parker That would be why I would be interested in this product. I have two LPs with out of phase options, but I don't really like playing them. If I could make my other guitars have an out of phase option at the click of a pedal- that would be really cool
sgmarshall3 Right? Something like this would work great for you. It seems they’re sort of missing the boat with this by not making it more stage friendly though.
Clever. Could be used as a creative device rather an emulator. Like say putting reverb and compression (subtle mind!) in front of a Tele then using a 335 to play that or just plain mad like a distorted Strat with Wah and playing back using a distorted Strat with wah! Lots of fun.
seems pretty cool i would use it more at home For creative purposes than I would live on stage. I can picture all the comments now my $200 whatever guitar can sound like a $3000 guitar, now I just gotta go the music store and record the $3000 guitar lol.
it makes thick pups sound thin, but it wont make a thin pick up sound thick..so it makes your 335 sound like a strat, but it doesn't make your tele sound like a 335
Interesting demo, but it doesn't quite do what it's supposed to. I like the idea of the pedal, they just need to perfect it. The EQ levels were different, so if you need to adjust it there's no point in capturing the tones if you can just adjust an EQ pedal. I have a really cool preset EQ pedal from toms line for like $50 that approximates a few different type of amp EQS that is simpler to use and gets you the same type of effect.
This was a good demo but I think a better demo would have been having positions 2 and 4 captured from a Strat and then played with the Tele. The standard Tele doesn't have those tones so it would have been a better test at how good this pedal captures tones that are radically different than the host guitar. Capturing and comparing neck tones with the neck pickup tone on the host guitar is really just comparing shades of the same colour.
Best use for me? If you have a les paul or a prs for example you can record a reaally good start tone and you can have it on your board only one maybe 2 guitars no more than this it gets messy always talking for live gigs.. so while you play your prs tap it and you almost have a start in your hands..It would be game changing for people who cant afford 2-3 guitars and i wonder in 20 years from now where the technology would be...i love it but i could find it in market yet i saw somewhere a 99 euro price but dont know if its true..cheers!!
I think where this would be cool would be in getting your hands on some iconic guitars. Like Bonamassa's skinnerburst. Insert iconic guitars here... Then my Les Paul could sound like a 59
BeardedBlues Dude Yes, the addition of a user database would be a huge selling point for this product. Buy an Epiphone SG for $300 and download a '59 LP and a '60s Strat for it!
Comparison 1: Close, but no cigar 2: Pretty damn close 3: Tele with profile was actually better than the PRS lol 4: Almost perfect from here. 5: Sounds more like a Tele than a Strat It seems like it works best with humbuckers, as it didn't get the jangle from the strat, but I can imagine the TH-cam compression is working to the pedal's advantage. Probably would work great for Amp Demos as you wouldn't need to keep switching guitars to record different sounds.
Very interesting. It would be cool to try it to profile other audio device such as guitar pedal or even preamps (make a cheap. Joyo American sound closer to a Kemper profile that you like or a metal zone sound like a nice distortion pedal). It is the same principle behind so it could work as well.
@@jtn191 yes if it is used alone, it would not be sufficient. But if it is used after a similar type of distortion or preamp, it could at least compensate for a different EQ (different tone stack and output filtering).
It has a USB port, it would be nice if they allow saving and loading guitar profiles. Then you can have any guitar without going to the Music Store to profile it.
Shane. You should have tried a 12-string guitar, and an acoustic I paid $1299 CAD last year for a Variax Standard. This pedal is going to retail for how much?
The problem is that different guitars have different microdynamics that affect the tone of your guitar and those can't be captured in an IR pedal. Kemper for example profiles all of the signal including dynamics and distortion characteristics and not only the frequency response of the signal like the tone capture feature in Mooer products does. There is a box that takes profiles of guitars and it sounds as close as you can get with simulation but I can't remember it's name.
First, I’d like to thank you for the effort you put in to create this demo. I imagine it probably took more time and energy than the usual and customary gear demo. Your due diligence is appreciated. I’m wondering if the folks chiming in with the less than favorable remarks are listening to your demonstration with just the speakers in a portable device, crappy computer speakers or a pair of $12 earbuds. I plugged in the headphones that I use for mixing and mastering in the studio and I thought that the Mooer guitar emulations were not that bad. Clearly the emulations aren’t 100% spot on, but in the context of a live stage FOH mix, they’d be close enough for rock ‘n’ roll. What I’d like to hear is something along with the way of a decent acoustic electric guitar, e.g. a Taylor 312ce, captured and then the source guitar, e.g. a Fender Strat, played and then assess to hear how close w/requisite fine tweaking the Strat can be made to sound like the acoustic.
@@intheblues plugged an Artist Classical into my pedal board recently. What a monster, flying on the edge of total chaos. Tests your touch 'p be interesting as a source.
So if I bought one of these and then plugged the output from my pc into it. Then theoretically, I could literally profile a very expensive guitar from an online demo and have a vintage Les Paul sound. I could also a/b easily without having to switch guitars round?
Wooow, it works with left-handed guitars too...
@Martin G Left-footed
Woooah dude, I was tripping trying to work out how he’d flipped the video but kept the posters right handed. Gotta reduce my intake...
I know this was a joke but strangely enough, pedals are right handed.
When a lefthanded player holds their guitar, the guitars output jack is on their left side, (think of where your output jack is).
The inputs of most pedals are on the right side.
This means that your cable has to cross from one side of you to the other to plug it in, (wah pedals are bad for this - sometimes the cable goes under the rocker preventing movement).
Many times ive gone to hit a pedal but the cable is in the way.
Its not really an issue, but it is something you need to work around with your setup:)
Some useful *time stamps* to compare profiling vs. original side-by-side (w/o knob tweaking):
1. Tele sound like Strat = 4:42 vs. 5:08
2. Tele sound like "Gretsch" = 6:05 vs. 6:17
3. Tele sound like PRS = 6:56 vs. 7:04
4. Tele sound like ES-335 = 8:10 vs. 8:31
Great comparison. Just saved me some money. I won’t buy one of those 😊
Martin G Awww... so sorry 😂
@Martin G Nice comments mate, I play guitar, But am Profoundly deaf, Have to wear hearing aids of course, I know the controls were sensitive, But FFS, I didn't hear any difference, any clues
yup, absolutely useless. Also, most guitarists like to change guitars for different tones. I just don't see a demand for this.
Now we need one of these for vocals so you can switch from Jim Morrison to Jimi Hendrix to Ozzy Ozbourne to James Hetfield at the click of a button!
Have you seen the Jaymz pedal that makes your guitar sound like him grunting "Yeahhhhhhhh" in different pitches? The later editions have more dirt and are twice as wide.
@lslranchi I’m gonna try that and I saw a plug in program by Sonic Projects called OP-X PRO 3 that can make keyboards and guitars sound like any song out there! All bases will be covered!
Now I can go to a guitar store and profile all the guitars that I like ✌️😍✌️
It’s not something new at all..With SIM1 XT-1 you get much better results
Once I had Brad Whitford's 1971 Marshall 1/2 stack, and 58' Les Paul in my Hollywood apartment after it was worked on by my roommate, and amp tech at Ocean Way Studio. He let me play the rig for about 1 minute, then we both knew the neighbors might call the cops...but I was in heaven! Ah', if only a Kemper and this Mooer Tone Capture GTR were there...and it wasn't 1987.
But the sim1 is $700 vs the $109 Mooer and a little tone knob tweaking. The sim had better sound better its halfway to kemper money.
Cj Naotda my thoughts exactly
Does it Djent? Hehehe
I can say this pedal is even more capable than what is shown on this demo. You need to play more chords and some scales that cover more of the range of each guitar for the pedal to better capture the tone of each guitar. I tried it on my strat and jazzmaster and it is really convincing for me. I also tried capturing one pickup and applying that on another pickup on the same guitar and it works near perfect. What I also tried is capturing the source pickup with the tone knob full and target with the same pickup with tone knob at 6, and then playing with the tone knob full again with the pedal on, I have the sound as if I was above full on the tone knob (like 15 on the tone knob). You can also use the pedal as a simple parametric eq without capturing anything. I wish they offered a way to download different source and target settings so you could play those instruments which you don't have access to capture it's tone, since it has a usb port already.
Really impressive.
What's making different guitars so much fun, though, is also the difference in playability and how it behaves generally.
So it's great for gigging musicians getting 80% of the sound with just 10% of the haul.
But it doesn't replace the feel.
Eleni Be It’s not something new at all..With SIM1 XT-1 you get much better results
@@federicozanetti8145 thx didn't know that. Have found very mixed results on YT but some were really convincing.
Actually i did go another route and bought a tele and a strat from harley benton for sum 300 € and was absolutely amazed by tone/playability vs. price even compared to my authentic (haha) G LP '71 deluxe goldtop
*LIFE HACK* if you only own one guitar, bring this pedal down to the guitar shop and store all the expensive guitar tones into this bad boi thank me later! :D
Genius
Mooer is absolutely killing it. Mooer and Joyo, I would put them in the same league. These Chinese brands are revolutionizing guitar world by bringing top-notch tech and tone to pretty much everyone. I wish these companies all the success.
Agreed. You should also check out the Valeton GP-200 (it puts them in the same category)
You should do an acustic and see if it can simulate an electric guitar or better yet a nylon with piezos.
I saw the mooer demo it. It can mimic the acoustic sound
Twelve string! 🤣
The strat tone on the 335 sounded *very* similar. Seems to work better on humbuckers trying to mimic single coils. Something about the attack perhaps. The 335 tone on the tele wasn't as close... Still sounded like a tele.
Exactly my thoughts.
If you have a guitar with humbucker and you try to sound like a specific single coil guitar (like a strat) you get decent results but it's not so good the other way around.
I wonder how the 335 would have sounded if had coil split option, I really wanna know now.
Good point. That would most definitely bring it closer to a strat/tele tone.
Agreed. 335 impersonating a Strat near the end of vid was really impressive. Super cool Mooer is jamming interesting stuff into mini pedal formats.
Amazed everyday at the modeling capabilities in modern electronics. Great Time to be alive with a guitar.. (in that order) 8)). This definitely is usable in a lot of cool ways.
If Mooer and Kemper partnered up to do entire celebrity rigs, that would be awesome. I mean, go to Angus Young and have him play through his rig while hooked up to this and a Kemper. Artists merchandise everything else, why not a clone of their sound? Can you imagine what people would pay to have an exact replica of John Mayer's tone for example?
The tone depends also allot on the player....You can have the exact same rig and sound different as you pluck different hold the hand different etc.
I dont think it gives a 100% solid capture, BUT what it does do is just as valuable because it gives you another usable tone for your guitar.
There is a lot of stuff out there that doesnt even get close to doing that.
Great job Mooer!
It's pretty damn close, I can tell it's a little "solid statey" but I really have to be nitpicking to point that out.
Dude I love your channel and a I'm biased lefty of 52 years - 37 trying to play good. I was talking to myself,er, my cat thinking that as with the Kemper, the time is now....well after watching a while... nah-so-much yet...bummer. The tech will definitely get there, but this is just a waaaay-early teaser....maybe 10% of what's to come. With this pedal, it's delivery is unfortunately even less than digi-emulations of fuzz pedals for the last near 20yrs - sorry folks but digi-fuzzes are smooth distortions at best, the beauty of discrete analog fuzz is it's unpredictable sizzle/sputter and delivery. Tech will get there, it's just gonna take a little more time - same with the guitar emulations :)
Thanks very much again ITB!!!
I'm so glad you did a comprehensive rundown on this device. I've been a huge proponent of mooer for quite some time, and continuously have to explain to people that electronics will let you pay whatever the marketers demand for them, despite them all being fairly simple circuits that all work in similar ways.
335 to Strat. Amazing. Great demo. As always.
The profile tones don't sound anything like the originals to me. Nice try by Mooer though, an interesting pedal.
That’s really cool!
I could see a south paw loving this pedal. Barrow some of your friends guitar tones but able to rock your trusty lefty guitar.
The BOSS GT-1 does all this, humbucker to single coil, solid body to hollowbody, vice-versa, etc, etc...
Through a digital equalizer which is all you need.
Nice!! I can see this being useful for a gig or studio and you just want to bring one guitar. Unless you are extremely particular about a certain guitar’s tone, this pedal does a good job of simulating the vibe of different guitars. I want it!!! Thanks mate!!!! 🎸🎸🎸🤙🏾🤙🏾🤙🏾
interesting innovation,but the sounds of each guitar still unique and noticeable even if the pedal is on.
Very Interesting , the outcome is quitte similar , but somehow the mix of guitars give some nice hybrid sounds . cool review thnx
Humbucker to single coil was pretty impressive, although I could hear that the attack was very different (not necessarily bad). Would've liked to hear how it would handle one of the in-between Strat positions, since having one of those as an option on a humbucker guitar would be great.
I agree! Would have been really interesting
Pretty interesting little pedal there mate and nice demo ! Thanks ! :-)
This is ridiculously cool!! Been a fan of yours for year, man. You’re such an amazing player!!
Thanks so much, Bremki!
intheblues Absolutely!! I gotta get you on the Welcome to Space Lounge IG page! Take care, homie! Keep doin’ what ya do. :)
It's a "good enough" solution, and that is really good enough 90% of the time. Getting good enough stuff makes your life easier and keeps you sane with some money in your pocket.
I love that even though it’s not 100% correct, it’s really useful and great. Some modeled better than others, I still say this is remarkable and would be great to have in a guitar player’s arsenal. I love it
You should try capturing an acoustic guitar, if that worked it would be great for live use. I don't like acoustic sim pedals.👍
Shhhhhh If my Mrs finds out about this pedal I will have to ditch all but one guitar, great video ..thanks
Shane this is great. I only have room for 2 guitar's on stage. Hopefully v2 will be more live play friendly. Would be nice to ecpand the arsenal. Great demo as always. Your insight and ear have saved me tons of money.
Shane, this is a great demo you really showed up what it can do thanks man
Someone needs to mod this to have an input for a 7-way switcher 🤔
I'm curious if you can profile a piezo and make an electric guitar sound kind of like an acoustic through a PA system.
You can load an acoustic guitar IR on Mooer Radar - it works perfectly, especially with 3sigma impulses :) I wouldn't be so sure, if it works on this pedal :/
The ES definitely took on some of the strat singlecoil characteristics, however I have a few friendly suggestions:
1) I think your first source guitar was a poor choice. It's a beautiful instrument, but doesn't sound like a traditional tele as a result of the humbuckers. It sounds like a fender-scale instrument with hum-cancelling pickups. Honestly, you could put those pickups in a strat and it'd essentially sound the same. I'd suggest using an instrument with very traditional pickup tone/sound so the audience knows what characteristic pickup differences they're listening for.
2) Choose 2 - 3 well known pickups: i.e. a strat singlecoil , a les paul humbucker and guitar with P-90s. That would be a better test - can the pedal actually emulate the pickup characteristics? Can it make a singlecoil sound like a P-90 and humbucker? Can it make a P-90 sound like a Humbucker and singlecoil? etc. Trying to show the difference between two different types of humbuckers really won't show where this product's potential lies. I want an opportunity to see if this pedal can emulate the characteristic differences between pickup types (like the ES through the strat bank).
3) Give 3 examples for each bank: i) the sound of the source instrument dry, ii) the sound of the targeted bank (then adjust the pedal to better emulate the patch), iii) the sound of the original instrument it's supposed to be emulating. This might involve editing your videos.
I think these suggestions would allow for a more accurate representation of the pedal (whether good or bad). That being said, that I'm still skeptical of the product.
Ah man, thanks for the demo, but the sounds aren’t close at all. Snake oil pedal for sure.
@Martin G I think in profiling you have to vary some stiles and not only one chord
This is so cool! All I want now is a pedal board full of these... and maybe a tube screamer...
What if you profile a piano with a piezo, or a OP-1 synth. I'm interested to see if it can be used for profileing instruments other than a guitar, and the result would be.
I found 20 year ago while playing with convolution, the one included in Windows 95's Cool Edit wave editor. That any noisy-dissonant sample like: pulling chains, waterfall's noise, a big bird pack and of course white/brown/pink noises. Give awesome textures and out-of-this-world timbres (many of them totally usable) when convoluted with drums or synths (of course guitars).
Using that method, I took a chain pulling sample and convoluted a funky drummer based drum track, it gave me the coolest futuristic drum&bass metallic funky sound. I just added a deep bassline with a single cycle sine wave on my Yammy A3000 sampler (gosh, good times, gold era of sampling, today not much synthesis with samples, this days sampling is like just looping other people's samples).
But don't really know the results with modern IR machines.
@@levgtz8158 that is cool! In the late-90s I also did some experimental sampling as well. I always wondered if someday someone would build a guitar pedal to play loadable samples with no latency :)
@@pudnoise1 This little IR pedals are great, like the Radar if f*cking cool that you can feed your guitar and plug your headphones on that little pedal and you're ready to practice while stuck on traffic.
But to me all modern pedals are overpriced, very little exceptions.
I see the HX Stomp a really good platform for sound design (including live IR capture) and it let's you work with or without amp, with usb or line-level, even without guitar, because of it's REAMP feature lol and those Helix amps sound really good (at the end I always like to feed the audio to analog ss or valve to make emulation shine )
@@levgtz8158 it is definitely a great price point to jump in and experiment with :)
While this pedal does'nt make the tele sound exactly like the other guitars, its pretty close. How cool is this, very small and inexpensive, cool for the bedroom, studio or gigging!
Great video and channel
Would have been cool to see P90's and Mini Humbuckers modeled.
Actually close enough to be legit. Interesting. I'm highly sensitive to differences also everyone always tells me it's in my head until I prove it to them one way or another lol.
If anything, I could just see this pedal useful for making your Squier Strat sound like your Fender Custom Shop haha
Cool, now I just gotta go to my local guitar store and profile the 7 best sounding guitars there.
Bias FX2 does guitar matching, many of them actually and does a fine job at it.
The "Moo" is likely pronounced Moe (Moog rhymes with Vogue) Therefore Mooer probably sounds like "Mower"
Hey Shane, that's awesome 🤘 tanx for reviewing this pedal. How does it compare to the Keyztone Exchanger pedal?
FYI. You're pronouncing Mooer correctly 👍
It's quite different being that it will capture each guitar digitally. That said, the exchanger is awesome too and is analog from memory.
@@intheblues got it. Cheers bub 🍻
@@JayKughan I thought it was like James bond, Roger Moore.
Looks and sounds like a fun little pedal for the price.
Side note: I notice that you hardly look at your guitar while playing. I was told to do this a while ago, and I think it was great advice. It not only gives you better muscle memory, so that you hit the right frets and strings without looking, but it also allows you, I think, to feel the music better and put more feeling into your playing.
So, all in all, you're a pretty cool bloke, well, apart from being an Aussie. No one's perfect. ;)
Nice idea. Love Mooer but on this occasion, the tones are not close enough. Good demo.
Check it out at the end where I test the 335 and Strat together. It's pretty much spot on with a tad of tweaking :-).
@@intheblues I agree that that was the closest. Cheers buddy.
I guess the differences in pickups aren't that huge on paper but to our ears it's the minute differences that give it a different feel. So unless it's literally bang on it's not that great as it just sounds different to what it's trying to emulate.
Its cool just to create blended sounds, not necessarily copy your other guitars. I'm impressed.
How about profiling an electro acoustic guitar? would it sound better than a AC simulator?
Sorry but im not hearing it. I'll pass on this pedal but good job on demoing it.
@Martin G Geez mate, youv said that already,,, Just saying
@Martin G Never a more truer word spoken mate, Welcome to the Southern Hemispher
I knew it was only a matter of time. Personally, I think it's way better suited to live applications as you'd have generally one guitar live and all the rest of your guitars ARE in the studio. What it needs is an update: long press the foot switch to send it into a cycle mode, short press on/off.
How about profiling an acoustic or make a 6 string sound like a 12 string? I wonder how it would handle that? If it could do the acoustic part that could save me from two guitar changes.
Great video.. First time I've seen this product period.
I thought they sounded really close. Really close. I mean
it would work in a pinch in a gig if you only wanted to bring a couple guitars
but sound like the others you have at home for some reason..
Thanks for this.. Very much..
They should make a bass version, instead of strumming you hit one string until it registers the note and move onto the next string. It'd be really cool to be able to capture the tone of an old vintage Fender or Gibson bass using this technology and played on a modern bass, since a lot of vintage basses at this point would be well worn-out by the road and might get damaged.
Can you profile a synth? Just curious how radical it can alter the tone.
Here's something a little different for everyone. This IR technology is pretty cool. Wait till you hear the 335 sound like my Strat! 🤯😄. What do you think of the Mooer Tone Capture GTR? Buy it online (Thomann) - bit.ly/2ZddhaV (affiliate link)
Interesting! For shits n giggles, TRY sampling an ACOUSTIC guitar profile then using an electric on it. See HOW close it gets.
Oh & btw, Shane, please, LOSE that cheesy American begging voice over! It's not working!
Cheers! \m/
intheblues Shane, you gotta be able to pronounce the companies name. The management is probably cringing right now! Sorry dude. I don’t want companies to hold anything against you.
@@roblarson9065 The joke is, every time I pronounce it, someone corrects me irrespective of how I've said it consistently in the past. I doubt they are cringing as having potential eye-balls on their product is probably more important.
I think mooer did an ok job but I’d like a great company like strymon or boss try this. I think they have the brains and technology to get it closer to better sounds.
The tele is not as dynamic as the strat and that’s the real problem due to the blade humbuckers. To me your strat sounded the most dynamic so I would have used that as the source and made it sound like the others. It’s not bad but as you say it’s not great live. Tbh I could see it been good for when you want to take just a strat to a gig and kick pedal on to clone your les paul.
You could bias the modeling with little EQ adjustment for the "host" guitar then reajust the EQ the way it should be. I'm sure there is a way to get 95% there with some additional experiments. Great demo ! Thank you !
Mooer says you can adjust the "modeling" and "EQ" to obtain your sound. Question : once you listen to the modeling result, then reajust the EQ to your liking, can you "save" your new EQ's choices "over" the modeling ? Thanks !
Awesome video, as always.
Amazing little pedal! Damn that ES335 sounds like a stratI My Mooer GE300 (Shane you must review one of these)has this function as well I am going to have to give this a go . Cheers great as always!!
Here's the use I see for my personal use. I prefer bringing my ES-model to rehearsals because simply for practical reasons - it is light to carry. But I have a custom tele which has the best overall sound. If this little tool will make the ES sound like a close facsimile of the custom tele it will be the best of both worlds. It really doesn't need to be *exact*. Also the volume knob and the eq give extra boost and adjustability to suit the specifics of the rehearsal studio acoustics. And the price.. Well, that's a non issue. Judging from this video, I get the feeling it will do the job. Peace.
Seems like a customizable version of the Keyztone Exchanger. Very Cool.
Can you try this with a bass guitar as the target and see what results you achieve? Might be interesting.
Jus waiting on the pedal to try exactly that. Also put a octave up pedal on the bass and see if it captures the separated octave as the source
Pretty cool. Not perfect, of course, but everything still sounds quite musical with honest guitar tone. It’d be cool to try a Les Paul with the Peter Green mod to see if it can capture that cool out-of-phase sound. Also, can it capture the sound of an acoustic guitar? Maybe I missed that in the video.
David Parker That would be why I would be interested in this product. I have two LPs with out of phase options, but I don't really like playing them. If I could make my other guitars have an out of phase option at the click of a pedal- that would be really cool
sgmarshall3 Right? Something like this would work great for you. It seems they’re sort of missing the boat with this by not making it more stage friendly though.
Clever. Could be used as a creative device rather an emulator. Like say putting reverb and compression (subtle mind!) in front of a Tele then using a 335 to play that or just plain mad like a distorted Strat with Wah and playing back using a distorted Strat with wah! Lots of fun.
Best pedal in the world!
First comment. Shane, this is sick!!! Greetings from Brazil
It's the same tech as the Mooer Live, just bottled specific. Fancy world we live in, smellovision can't be far off now.
Will it profile a guitar through a distortion pedal and model the clipping characteristics?
Wow it's kinda unique for me. Yes I'm totally agreed that 80 to 85% of the sources for each guitars.
Yeah but my man cave would not look anywhere near as good with just this hanging on the wall !
haha!
That's true.
seems pretty cool i would use it more at home For creative purposes than I would live on stage. I can picture all the comments now my $200 whatever guitar can sound like a $3000 guitar, now I just gotta go the music store and record the $3000 guitar lol.
it makes thick pups sound thin, but it wont make a thin pick up sound thick..so it makes your 335 sound like a strat, but it doesn't make your tele sound like a 335
Interesting demo, but it doesn't quite do what it's supposed to. I like the idea of the pedal, they just need to perfect it. The EQ levels were different, so if you need to adjust it there's no point in capturing the tones if you can just adjust an EQ pedal. I have a really cool preset EQ pedal from toms line for like $50 that approximates a few different type of amp EQS that is simpler to use and gets you the same type of effect.
Brilliant!
this is why i wouldnt buy a kemper cos in ten years time youll get the same thing for a 10th of the price.
So you don't buy computers or smartphones either?
@@christiandiegoalcocer I dont buy £1500 ones
That's not what's conveyed by what you said. (Me neither, btw.)
lol
see you in 10 years lol....
This thing is going to do wonders for my single pickup Harmony.
( don't be jealous)
Excellent video,nice pedal
This was a good demo but I think a better demo would have been having positions 2 and 4 captured from a Strat and then played with the Tele. The standard Tele doesn't have those tones so it would have been a better test at how good this pedal captures tones that are radically different than the host guitar. Capturing and comparing neck tones with the neck pickup tone on the host guitar is really just comparing shades of the same colour.
Best use for me? If you have a les paul or a prs for example you can record a reaally good start tone and you can have it on your board only one maybe 2 guitars no more than this it gets messy always talking for live gigs.. so while you play your prs tap it and you almost have a start in your hands..It would be game changing for people who cant afford 2-3 guitars and i wonder in 20 years from now where the technology would be...i love it but i could find it in market yet i saw somewhere a 99 euro price but dont know if its true..cheers!!
I think where this would be cool would be in getting your hands on some iconic guitars. Like Bonamassa's skinnerburst. Insert iconic guitars here... Then my Les Paul could sound like a 59
BeardedBlues Dude Yes, the addition of a user database would be a huge selling point for this product. Buy an Epiphone SG for $300 and download a '59 LP and a '60s Strat for it!
That's what Sim1 xt-1 does...
@@filippozanetti6527 hmm had not heard of that. I will have to look it up.
Comparison 1: Close, but no cigar
2: Pretty damn close
3: Tele with profile was actually better than the PRS lol
4: Almost perfect from here.
5: Sounds more like a Tele than a Strat
It seems like it works best with humbuckers, as it didn't get the jangle from the strat, but I can imagine the TH-cam compression is working to the pedal's advantage. Probably would work great for Amp Demos as you wouldn't need to keep switching guitars to record different sounds.
Very interesting. It would be cool to try it to profile other audio device such as guitar pedal or even preamps (make a cheap. Joyo American sound closer to a Kemper profile that you like or a metal zone sound like a nice distortion pedal). It is the same principle behind so it could work as well.
Convolution would have to be changed to capture harmonic differences. This only measures EQ
@@jtn191 yes if it is used alone, it would not be sufficient. But if it is used after a similar type of distortion or preamp, it could at least compensate for a different EQ (different tone stack and output filtering).
Profiled guitars into profiled amps. One mans beginning is another mans end.
I agree with what you said about a live setting. Mabe they'll do a v2 with the much needed additional switch.
Love your Dr John Poster
MOO ER!
Do you need to profile the different guitars from each pickup?
GOOD question!
yes I want to now this too. Will one profile serve for both pickups or do you need both profiled?
actually a demo involving bridge pickups would probably have told me more about what this thing can do. Bridge pups are so different
It has a USB port, it would be nice if they allow saving and loading guitar profiles. Then you can have any guitar without going to the Music Store to profile it.
Really interesting! Lucille like Strat is impressie… How well does it capture Acoustic? And 12-string ?
Shane. You should have tried a 12-string guitar, and an acoustic
I paid $1299 CAD last year for a Variax Standard. This pedal is going to retail for how much?
So its a take on the Line 6 guitar except u can use any guitar. If they straighten out the volume thing I might try the Mewer Manure 😄
The problem is that different guitars have different microdynamics that affect the tone of your guitar and those can't be captured in an IR pedal. Kemper for example profiles all of the signal including dynamics and distortion characteristics and not only the frequency response of the signal like the tone capture feature in Mooer products does. There is a box that takes profiles of guitars and it sounds as close as you can get with simulation but I can't remember it's name.
I cant play a G chord, does it profile using the A chord instead?
Yep any open chord is fine.
First, I’d like to thank you for the effort you put in to create this demo. I imagine it probably took more time and energy than the usual and customary gear demo. Your due diligence is appreciated.
I’m wondering if the folks chiming in with the less than favorable remarks are listening to your demonstration with just the speakers in a portable device, crappy computer speakers or a pair of $12 earbuds. I plugged in the headphones that I use for mixing and mastering in the studio and I thought that the Mooer guitar emulations were not that bad. Clearly the emulations aren’t 100% spot on, but in the context of a live stage FOH mix, they’d be close enough for rock ‘n’ roll.
What I’d like to hear is something along with the way of a decent acoustic electric guitar, e.g. a Taylor 312ce, captured and then the source guitar, e.g. a Fender Strat, played and then assess to hear how close w/requisite fine tweaking the Strat can be made to sound like the acoustic.
Over 60% of people listen on a phone. Most likely a huge portion of them don’t have a good set of headphones. 😎✅
Nice.
What happens if you use an acoustic as the Host? Would be cool to hear some Fishmans through it.
It works with any guitar with a pickup (or so the instructions say) :-)
@@intheblues plugged an Artist Classical into my pedal board recently. What a monster, flying on the edge of total chaos. Tests your touch 'p
be interesting as a source.
Just play a Godin 👍
So if I bought one of these and then plugged the output from my pc into it. Then theoretically, I could literally profile a very expensive guitar from an online demo and have a vintage Les Paul sound. I could also a/b easily without having to switch guitars round?
I noticed you use a wireless transmitter from your guitar to the am. Please share your experience with it. Is it really worth using one vs cables?