🎩 Join The Discord! discord.gg/EYQmYejx7U ❗CORRECTIONS AND FIXES FOR NVIDIA APP LISTED HERE! ❗ This update is genuinely game changing for all RTX GPUs- seriously a game changer for the presentation of the game. Hopefully BSG can add native implementation at some point in the future for things like DLAA, but we'll see with time. If you liked this video, hit the usual buttons, and thank you so much for watching :) Updates & Corrections are listed below this point if needed: Registry Path for DLSS Indicator: Computer\HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\NVIDIA Corporation\Global\NGXCore 8:42: If ShowDlssIndicator is not present in the registry, make a DWORD (32 bit) file and name it "ShowDlssIndicator". If you Nvidia App is showing "unsupported", try the following things in this order: - Ensure drivers and NVApp are up to date. - Hit the three dots next to "Programs" on the left and hit "Refresh" - Reinstall the Nvidia App. - Download your driver package from Nvidia's website, then download DDU (Display Driver Uninstaller). Disconnect from wifi/ethernet and then use DDU in Safe Mode to wipe your old drivers. Then, once the cleaning is done and the system reboots, run the driver package you downloaded. Reconnect wifi. (Note: Disconnecting wifi is just to ensure Windows does not fetch any drivers during this process)
terrible... you tested in pve LMAO everything you just said should not be taken that seriouly UNTIL WE GET LIVE TESTING IN PVP ... EVERYTHING IS BULLSHIT WE ALL KNOW IT AND NO ONE IS SAYING ANYTHING...
The upscaling with DLSS 4 is definitely heavily improved, I’ve always run DLSS quality and the game used to have a blurry vaseline smudge look, that is almost completely gone now. Best way I can describe it is like going from visor to no visor in game
Thank you, and thanks for running it publicly. I mean, how would an eft player that doesn't follow twitter, reddit or content creators on youtube, etc, could possibly know about this Nvidia Tos issue. And would he get punished, to update and run an official Nvidia driver feature ? You get my point, they really need to communicate better with the user base. It's gotten slightly better with time, but heh, still a long way to go.
I'm that eft player, i didn't knew all of this until i watched the video. I was already planning to use that feature because my friend used it for the first time and said it was better for some part.
@@viijunioriiv8512 Streets is a cpu heavy game. Graphics in my experience barely make a difference, if any, on that map. DLSS will only help so much there
You're the only one I follow for settings in Tarkov. Everyone else is either half informed, hasn't tested what they are suggesting and cannot, so help me god, communicate it in a way that's actually informative and enjoyable at the same time. Subscribed and thanks!
Thank you for your support and glad to have you aboard. Trying my best to keep it educational but not too heavy, and every video lets me learn more and more too. I don't know everything, but I'm trying my best o7
You make such nice and professional videos, it is a mystery to me that you only have 12.5k subscribers. It atleast feels like a 350/400k channel type of video. Keep up the good work, definetly earned my sub :)
Using AI in its current state for anti-aliasing is probably one of the best things it could be used for. TAA was nice but became super blurry in motion and I think the new transformer model does a really good job at both anti-aliasing and keeping the image clear, the only thing that beats that is if DLAA support was added
If you want native-ISH DLSS, you can add the 4K DSR mode in the nvidia control panel and set the game's resolution to that 4K, then set DLSS to quality. That will basically do the same thing as DLAA, might even look better since you are upscaling to a higher resolution and it should have much of a performance impact. 😌
Saw this LIVE! Thanks a lot! I love your optimization videos for Tarkov and the ebst settings - always follow your advice because you're one of the few people who actually do your research and testing and show it to us in simple terms. Also, what wallpaper is that? It's breathtaking
They don’t allow cheaters. Cheaters get reported, exploits get found, a detection for that exploit is put into the game, and there’s a monthly ban wave. They also consistently ban 5000+ accounts a month manually on top of the ban waves. The problem is there are so many new ways to cheat that come out that once an exploit is patched out or detectable, there are already 5 more esp’s made. The money people are paying for cheat on this game is why these exploit makers keep making new ones.
@@yzwpnow, why are there so many new ways to cheat? I get they’re trying their best but they must optimize and patch their game properly. Im not a dev, but theres gotta be a way.
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@@yzwp They dont allow cheaters but they also do not invest in better ways to combat them , they still rely on manual bans and reports and usually batteleye banwaves which are rarer and rarer nowadays and cheaters are back to using old cheats from previous wipes like the no clip through floor , flying etc.
more or less, exploit developers run the game on a dma system, which i won’t explain the ins and outs of but more or less, one computer is on an account, one computer on another. first account reads info from the game, other computer receives data and can either A use it live and avoid anticheat entirely, or B dig into the game code where the info is drawn from and find ways to create exploits that can be sold. More or less once an exploit is caught by the anticheat, they’ve already found multiple workarounds to sell.
the reason old cheats are showing up again is because of the game being swapped into unity22. newer version of the engine means the cheats effectively run a different way and detections have to be reworked.
just a FYI Preset J is also Dlss4 and on my 2070super i had way better quality and stability on that preset. on latest/preset K i got a lot of shimmering and ghosting on trees among other things, i dont notice as much on preset J. i suggest trying both presets and choose what works best for u
I've been using this on SPT and it's fantastic, combine it with the dlss tweaks to set my input res to 98% so i'm not losing out on sneaky few pixel heads in the distance
just giving a comment bc the algorithm! Your content deserves to be out there mate. you helped me an a lot of other ppl. i'm running amd so its not for me, but this is good for all other users.
you can improve the reslution reduction from dlss by enabling dsr factor in nvidia app or nvidia control panel .. when enabled u have 2 choices i personally use 1.78x and i play on 1440p monitor
I've been saying bad things about dlss 4 not because it's bad, but because we got dlss 4 INSTEAD of a performance uplift on 50 series; using it on older gpus is such a great way to make the best of this crap situation
The EFT Discord mods are still in the dark on this - this is happening driver side and not messing with the DLL's in the game files. They are in for a fight if they ban due to an official GPU driver - so far this has made EFT run more enjoyable and I can't wait to upgrade from my 11700k to an X3D AM5 CPU setup. Also I am running at Balanced within the DLSS models.
As a tip. You could use that fancy old non-AI upscaling to render these videos in 4K in order to get more bitrate from YT. Of course, it takes more time and space. Even with a 1440p monitor, you can then view the 4K video and enjoy a supersampled video that ought to be a bit clearer.
Another big thing with DLSS that is being missed a lot by people covering this, the snow falling is insanely more stable. TAA and old DLSS caused snow to look really blurry and also it had a bad smear/ghosting affect which is totally removed with new DLSS 4.
I just tried this, it's soooooo much better than the default it's actually crazy at least for my setup/monitor, I will also be using it, if I get perma'd for using this it's fine, I'll just finally be able to love myself and live a fulfilling life xD
for anyone who still isn't able to run it because it is greyed out: simply reinstall the nvidia app after installing the newest drivers. fixed it for me
You should do a video for Tarkov settings that can help everyones FPS that is seeing massive FPS drops due to scavs in Tarkov right now. Watch your FPS when playing a map in offline with Scavs on Horde.
Speaking of inventory bug - it happens on current Tarkov's DLSS too - it happens because when you open your inventory/start looting, it stops DLSS from interacting with the rendering pipeline of the game, same happened in Diablo 4 for example, whenever you opened a map. Only real solution for this problem would be enabling DLSS in inventory menu - but considering that BSG don't care at all, it has to be pushed by Tarkov's influencers to higher-ups because i tried multiple times contacting their support, community manager over discord - nothing, they don't care.
It's ironic to me that they refuse to optimize the game and instead make updates to attract new players. BSG could also just update their ToS to be more user friendly, since they also abuse law and regulation to use patented manufacturer models without permission... but we all know they won't. *Edit: another reason why I just stick to SPT. Won't have to worry about doing performance related fixes there, since there's nobody there to ban you.
Hey! In many scenes I can see that DLSS 4 brings some unwanted graphical corruptions to the presented frames. You can see 3 black blocks appearing on grass during the footage at 16:36. If you slow down the video you can see these appear on grass, which means some kind of shaders do not work correctly and display garbage for 1 frame. It's not a dealbreaker, but it might be the cause why it is not yet enabled by default in-game. :) I've been dealing with such issues in games for many years, as I work in a graphics tech company. More often than not these are driver issues that are game specific, so most probably Nvidia and BSG have to work together on fixing the implementation of DLSS4 or Nvidia has to check out the issue and fix it on their own.
Thanks for your insight! Just as an FYI though, I've seen this issue a while before enabling DLSS 4. I have heard from several of my PC Sherpa "Clients" about it too, so I think its a bug on a good chunk of systems. I hope BSG is putting in work to fix it as its been a thing for maybe a year IIRC.
I enabled it via Nvidia profile inspector on a game by game basis, for the average user it might be difficult though because you have to know which settings to change. I just don't like having anything more than the naked driver, hence why I tried with profile inspector. Although I quickly turned it off again, as I don't like playing with DLSS and it doesnt really boost performance IMO in EFT because of the poor optimization since the 0.16 patch.
This would be a weird hill for BSG to die on, assuming they continue to discourage using DLSS4. But at this point nothing they do surprises me anymore.
I believe DLAA is not supported, because it simply doesn't work in the game. Whenever you try to force DLAA, be it with dlss tweaks or profile inspector, the game will look super shimmery and pixelated (99% resolution works, but is not officially supported and can get you banned theoretically) This is something BSG will have to add themselves
I don’t know if anyone else has the same problem, but when I open the Nvidia app, under the graphics tab, its says “Cannot Retrieve Settings. Try Again Later.” for every game in my list. I’ve uninstalled and reinstalled multiple times, no luck. I tried the overrride anyhow, but when I enable DLSS, I get constant flickering of near and distant objects, which I feel is not worth it. Later today I will try again, deleting the Nvidia Cache first, then uninstalling, them reinstalling. Good luck!
Dlss is like taa only woth no input lagg but its still has the fundamental flaw of being blurry and at the moment its bugged and you dont get any better frames like you used too best option is to keep at native res and enjoy the crisp picture and deal with the staircaseing effect
How'd you get this to work on 1080? The registry is not showing the "showdlssindicator" folder and when i go in game its not upscaling I only still have "quality" and "balanced" as options under NvidiaDlss
You didn’t talked about the shimmering / flicker that the new dlss bring when looking at trees like in Woods/Shoreline even lighthouse. For what I tested it’s good where there’s no tree otherwise the flicker/shimmering in the tree is too much for me
The day this came out, I went on their discord and stated this. Nobody seemed to notice. They were too busy arguing about cheaters. Haha. Thats Tarkov.
Is this something I could benefit from? I run a 9800x3d with a 4090. I never notice my Gupta going to 100%. I struggle to get my head around it all and how it effects the game/benefits me when playing
Being CPU-bound doesn't inherently disqualify DLSS. For you, it would only help with the image quality and not FPS. Feel free to choose whichever setting you like the look of more.
11:52 Issue is with alpha rendering of these 3D Models (assets), clipping, poor optimization etc. Nvidia (or AMD/Intel) should have never had to create this upscale/optimize technology but they did and now we are having this "new technology" that smears and distills poor image so it looks half decent.
It's also possible that this will get flagged by the anticheat if it is dll injection. DLSS override could get you banned automatically even if the devs are not against using it, and it wouldn't be the first time a driver feature gets people banned : a number of Counter Strike 2 players were VAC banned because they turned on AMD Anti Lag 2's first version, which used to replace dlls to reduce latency. In the end Valve and AMD got in touch to get the players unbanned, and Anti Lag 2 was temporarily removed from gpu drivers until a new version that would require games to outright implement it was released.
Yep- I remember that. I know that this is also supported in other Battleye enabled games though (like Rainbow Six Siege) so we'll see the long term effects of this change. Nvidia had to have thought of this before release, so maybe they're already cooking something if this *does* turn out to be an issue. Also, I tried to look for a while to find the method the NVApp uses for swapping DLSS, but I could not find it. I'm assuming its just wrapping the current DLSS DLL but I'm not too sure (don't think its touching the game's DLL files though). I'll keep an eye out to see if there's any details on exactly how it does what it does to see if its more susceptible to anti-cheat detection.
@klemintime1452 as an AMD user i gotta amit i envy your game's visual stability lol. Really hope bsg implements dlss4 and eventually fsr4 if it turns out to be good
Seems like R6 Siege & Extraction are now only on the list with a checkmark, so no override support. Im pretty sure it was more games with [NV, T] mark. I guess the games on the list are still planned to get the support with future drivers. But there are still many online games on the list. ARK Ascended, Rust, Squad, Enlisted, Delta Force, Grayzone Warfare (they seem to have confirmed Nvidia App feature as safe, as long you do it via the app and not 3rd party programs like NVinspector) I think RDR2 has AC too? Lol even Overwatch 2 is on the list. So far a mix between different anti-cheat games and I havent read about any ban so far, except the one known guy on Grayzone Warfare, who did it with NVinspector though
Just so everyone knows for dlss to be whitelisted they contact the game companies and ask if their engines will support it. The fact that tarkov is on there as whitelisted means they were contacted and therefore cannot punish you for using it and if they do i would contact nvidia seeing as they will probably actually get back to you and help you. And makes sense since they have it whitelisted and tarkov devs are opposing it so contact nvidia id you get flagged.
Is there any source on that? Havent found such a statement by Nvidia while looking on different platforms. Because according to BSG staff they didnt got contacted.
Fixes listed in the pinned comment, reposted below: If you Nvidia App is showing "unsupported", try the following things in this order: - Ensure drivers and NVApp are up to date. - Hit the three dots next to "Programs" on the left and hit "Refresh" - Reinstall the Nvidia App. - Download your driver package from Nvidia's website, then download DDU (Display Driver Uninstaller). Disconnect from wifi/ethernet and then use DDU in Safe Mode to wipe your old drivers. Then, once the cleaning is done and the system reboots, run the driver package you downloaded. Reconnect wifi. (Note: Disconnecting wifi is just to ensure Windows does not fetch any drivers during this process) If you need some more guidance during this process, don't hesitate to ask in my discord :)
From my understanding the whitelist is not any sort of developer endorsement and is just Nvidia making sure the override works as expected, on the flip side it is ALSO my understanding that DLSS override is completely invisible to the game so it has no idea its happening. as far as the game is concerned it packages the necessary data and points to its own expected DLSS DLL, the GPU driver then ignores the DLL being pointed to and uses the version specified by the App instead.
This option is already disabled, it says "Unsupported" on Nvidia Application for EFT. Also the page from Nvidia for "NVIDIA DLSS & GeForce RTX: List Of All Games, Engines And Applications Featuring GeForce RTX-Powered Technology And Features" also the data for EFT from that table has changed and I have RTX 3090.
That would be a ridiculous ban… by checking boxes in their launcher and updating your cards bios… not installing cheats. Not running enhancement software. Just… checking the box in the games settings.
For even better image quality (at the cost of GPU eprformance) i would note the existance of DLDSR, which (as far as i understand) lets you render in Native res and then use DLSS for AA and Supersampling (guide - th-cam.com/video/nMiyS60bXrE/w-d-xo.html ). On AMD GPUs you can use FSR+VSR to do the same thing, but with FSR (FSR+VSR does seem to be more like a hack than an intended interaction, but it still does the job).
Don't forget. For most people (unless u wanna die to stupid things even more than normal) DLSS (any) is not a good thing to run UNLESS u don't use red dots and such. Ghosting is way too awful.
I still recommend lossless scaling. I literally fixed ALL of my stuttering by locking fps to 72 and 2x frame gen to 144fps. Unfortunately for others, it's high end pc so there is no input lag. With lower end PCs I would suggest using FSR scaling with performance mode. A good idea for blur on scopes and similar issues is to lower the scaling resolution to 90, some ppl from my community achieved the best visuals on scaling resolution as low as 75 or even 70.
I'm curious if you can turn on that new dlss in LS. There is NIS option in scaling in LS scaling which is Nvidia Image Scaling. May be if you can turn on the new dlas in Nvidia app for LS and make it work idk, got to try it out
@ I am talking about Lossless scaling, the 3rd party software not associated with nvidia. Some older gpus or amd ones can't run new DLSS, therefore the best solution is to try Lossless scaling. I am stunned how good that program is for so little money.
@@KapitanAlien91highly agree, and before anyone goes off about "input latency", there is a SLIGHT difference, but it's almost imperceptible especially if you just stick to 2x instead of the 3x or 4x modes. The extra smoothness far outweighs it and most testing has shown it to be negligible, even from an FPS game perspective.
Tried 2 times, both times game get crashed, dont know why its can be occur, first time i think it was lossless scalling, but second time i run only dlss 4 and it still crashed from the game, will wait for fix that and then use it, graphical improvement is good, very clear image.
Applaser lol not heard Daniel been called that before its Applezor awesome video though did you notice much of an FPS increase or decrease in any of the scenarios
Forgot how people called him lmao- but the only time this improves performance is when GPU-bottlenecked. I have guides on my channel for how to find that out, but basically, if your GPU usage is not 100% most of the time, so too will it not help FPS most of the time (lowering resolution does not improve FPS when CPU-bound)
@@klemintime1452 awesome cheers for the reply I understand hardware bottlenecks been working in IT for a while now i was just just unsure if there may be some performance differences as you are rendering on the gpu at a lot lower res and then upscaling
I went to the folder as you stated: Computer\HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\NVIDIA Corporation\Global\NGXCore but there I see no Show DLSS notification. What do I do? I an on a 3080 12gb RTX
For some reasons i can't activate DLSS override - Model Presets on my Gigabyte 4090 Gaming OC. I install last version of Nvidia App and Drivers for GPU... 😬
@@DrdurexxComplete reinstallation of drivers did not help and uninstallation of the application did not help. The DDL program helped, it completely removed the drivers, cleaned everything in the registry and after rebooting I first installed the drivers with a clean installation and then the application. Now everything works as it should!
I found a guide to adjust the preset with Nvidia inspector and gives the ability to adjust the DLSS base resolution higher than 67% giving more flexibility than quality
You can add it yourself; I added some text in the pinned comment for that. Sorry I didn't mention it in the video- didn't know how widespread this issue would be. If ShowDlssIndicator is not present in the registry, make a DWORD (32 bit) file and name it "ShowDlssIndicator". Then input the values shown at 8:42
Man I have 4090 and 7800x3d and I play woods mostly and the trees shimmer and flicker so bad with dlss4 or dlss in general and I don't know how to fix it
I did this and continuously got unity crashes every time the map started to load. I figure my motherboard and cpu just can't go as fast as the memory and it just shuts down.
Tarkov's stability issue is sadly all CPU bottleneck. Relieving the GPU will do nothing to help stutter. The removal of flicker/sparkle effects of long distance objects will be a welcome change though.
The thing that is bothering me is I run a 14900k, 4080 and 64gb ram, 1440p. With DLSS on any setting I get way higher frames, less screen tearing and a more stable image, but as a result I feel like I have a slower sensitivity and the mouse feels "stuttery" when I turn, almost like the feeling when you go back to a 60hz monitor after you've been used to a 120hz+ monitor. The movement is just not smooth and I struggle to see anything while turning. With DLSS off I get lower frames but the mouse input feels absolutely perfect and smooth when I turn. Any idea what would be causing that? Like as a reference running around woods offline I will get 160fps with DLSS off, but with it on quality I sit at roughly 195fps, balanced 215-220 fps and performance 230fps. But they all feel worse despite having better frames? I'm all about performance usually but I care more about mouse input and smoothness than anything else. I thought it might be something to do with the frames being way higher than the hz rating of the screen but I tried capping my FPS to 165fps and it just made the mouse feel even worse. It drops my sensitivity to like half and it feels like it has input lag.
Turn your polling rate down to 1000 and your dpi down to 800. I can’t explain the months I spent wasting time trying to figure out the same sort of issue and it was because of dpi/polling rate
Ping me in my discord and I can send you a screenshot of what I run. It can be a *little* tinny, but I prefer it for most games (also, if you'd like it, the txt version is below): 32hz: -5 64hz: -3 125hz: 4 250hz: 3 500hz: 0 1khz: 0 2khz: 0 4hz: 3 (can be lowered for comfort) 8khz: 1 16khz: -1
I uninstalled the nvidia app and all the driver bloat with DDU as it was the only solution to the freezing I get ingame. I looked at DLSS swapper and DLSS Tweaks to get dlss4 on tarkov without nvidia app but I saw that it's a dll injection which be bannable by battleye. How do I get dlss4 without nvidia app and not get banned?
I dont understand why but, when i enable dlss it looks so good, but when i play and scav og raiders spawn, i get lag and fps drop🙄 my pc is not the issue
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This update is genuinely game changing for all RTX GPUs- seriously a game changer for the presentation of the game. Hopefully BSG can add native implementation at some point in the future for things like DLAA, but we'll see with time. If you liked this video, hit the usual buttons, and thank you so much for watching :)
Updates & Corrections are listed below this point if needed:
Registry Path for DLSS Indicator: Computer\HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\NVIDIA Corporation\Global\NGXCore
8:42: If ShowDlssIndicator is not present in the registry, make a DWORD (32 bit) file and name it "ShowDlssIndicator".
If you Nvidia App is showing "unsupported", try the following things in this order:
- Ensure drivers and NVApp are up to date.
- Hit the three dots next to "Programs" on the left and hit "Refresh"
- Reinstall the Nvidia App.
- Download your driver package from Nvidia's website, then download DDU (Display Driver Uninstaller). Disconnect from wifi/ethernet and then use DDU in Safe Mode to wipe your old drivers. Then, once the cleaning is done and the system reboots, run the driver package you downloaded. Reconnect wifi. (Note: Disconnecting wifi is just to ensure Windows does not fetch any drivers during this process)
terrible... you tested in pve LMAO everything you just said should not be taken that seriouly UNTIL WE GET LIVE TESTING IN PVP ... EVERYTHING IS BULLSHIT WE ALL KNOW IT AND NO ONE IS SAYING ANYTHING...
The upscaling with DLSS 4 is definitely heavily improved, I’ve always run DLSS quality and the game used to have a blurry vaseline smudge look, that is almost completely gone now. Best way I can describe it is like going from visor to no visor in game
Thank you, and thanks for running it publicly.
I mean, how would an eft player that doesn't follow twitter, reddit or content creators on youtube, etc, could possibly know about this Nvidia Tos issue. And would he get punished, to update and run an official Nvidia driver feature ? You get my point, they really need to communicate better with the user base. It's gotten slightly better with time, but heh, still a long way to go.
I'm that eft player, i didn't knew all of this until i watched the video. I was already planning to use that feature because my friend used it for the first time and said it was better for some part.
Got no difference on atreets
@@viijunioriiv8512 Streets is a cpu heavy game. Graphics in my experience barely make a difference, if any, on that map. DLSS will only help so much there
If only they used their own news system in the launcher...
BSG has already banned legitimate players before. It's not entirely out of scope to get banned for this I am sure.
You're the only one I follow for settings in Tarkov. Everyone else is either half informed, hasn't tested what they are suggesting and cannot, so help me god, communicate it in a way that's actually informative and enjoyable at the same time. Subscribed and thanks!
Thank you for your support and glad to have you aboard. Trying my best to keep it educational but not too heavy, and every video lets me learn more and more too. I don't know everything, but I'm trying my best o7
You make such nice and professional videos, it is a mystery to me that you only have 12.5k subscribers. It atleast feels like a 350/400k channel type of video. Keep up the good work, definetly earned my sub :)
Thanks man, welcome aboard :D
Using AI in its current state for anti-aliasing is probably one of the best things it could be used for. TAA was nice but became super blurry in motion and I think the new transformer model does a really good job at both anti-aliasing and keeping the image clear, the only thing that beats that is if DLAA support was added
You can force games to use DLAA through Nvidia App aswell
@ only works for certain games, tarkov is not one that supports this feature
Insane how this is needed to play streets on 144+ fps constant, even on a 9800x3d. Truly the best optimization of all time bsg.
If you want native-ISH DLSS, you can add the 4K DSR mode in the nvidia control panel and set the game's resolution to that 4K, then set DLSS to quality. That will basically do the same thing as DLAA, might even look better since you are upscaling to a higher resolution and it should have much of a performance impact. 😌
"Preset K", a minor refinement to Transformer Preset J, which showcases improved temporal stability, reduced ghosting, and enhanced detail in motion.
This ^- I was reporting on the user experiences I've read about it so far, but that is the official description.
Great informative and exhaustive video as usual! Thanks!
There’s an incredibly fine line between trouble shooting/optimizing game performance and working in IT
Saw this LIVE! Thanks a lot!
I love your optimization videos for Tarkov and the ebst settings - always follow your advice because you're one of the few people who actually do your research and testing and show it to us in simple terms. Also, what wallpaper is that? It's breathtaking
Thanks for watching :)
And its Port Olisar From Star Citizen in Wallpaper Engine.
Thank you, this changed my wipe
This just gaved me +40FPS :D and game looks better:) even on performance mode. now i can actualy use scopes :D
What res u running?
@@stewRS 2k , 3070 and AMD 79800x3D and G.SKILL Trident Z5 64Gb
Thanks for the video! I’m enjoying dlss4. I was able to increase my textures to high and still get good performance
lol BSG basically allows actual cheaters but imagine they ban the DLSS user.
They don’t allow cheaters. Cheaters get reported, exploits get found, a detection for that exploit is put into the game, and there’s a monthly ban wave. They also consistently ban 5000+ accounts a month manually on top of the ban waves. The problem is there are so many new ways to cheat that come out that once an exploit is patched out or detectable, there are already 5 more esp’s made. The money people are paying for cheat on this game is why these exploit makers keep making new ones.
@@yzwpnow, why are there so many new ways to cheat? I get they’re trying their best but they must optimize and patch their game properly. Im not a dev, but theres gotta be a way.
@@yzwp They dont allow cheaters but they also do not invest in better ways to combat them , they still rely on manual bans and reports and usually batteleye banwaves which are rarer and rarer nowadays and cheaters are back to using old cheats from previous wipes like the no clip through floor , flying etc.
more or less, exploit developers run the game on a dma system, which i won’t explain the ins and outs of but more or less, one computer is on an account, one computer on another. first account reads info from the game, other computer receives data and can either A use it live and avoid anticheat entirely, or B dig into the game code where the info is drawn from and find ways to create exploits that can be sold. More or less once an exploit is caught by the anticheat, they’ve already found multiple workarounds to sell.
the reason old cheats are showing up again is because of the game being swapped into unity22. newer version of the engine means the cheats effectively run a different way and detections have to be reworked.
just a FYI
Preset J is also Dlss4 and on my 2070super i had way better quality and stability on that preset.
on latest/preset K i got a lot of shimmering and ghosting on trees among other things, i dont notice as much on preset J.
i suggest trying both presets and choose what works best for u
Really I’ll try that but where can we see what the difference between preset are ?
Small correction to 8:42 ShowDlssIndicator might not be there, if so make a DWORD file, name it like above and continue with how Klem described
I have done that now, but how to enable it in game?
Thanks Reo; I'll be adding that to the pinned comment soon.
this is exactly what happened to me, needed to do, and worked for me~
I created it with the same parameters, but its not showing in the game as in the video.
Your videos are the best, thank you!
I've been using this on SPT and it's fantastic, combine it with the dlss tweaks to set my input res to 98% so i'm not losing out on sneaky few pixel heads in the distance
just giving a comment bc the algorithm!
Your content deserves to be out there mate. you helped me an a lot of other ppl.
i'm running amd so its not for me, but this is good for all other users.
Thank you for the support man🤜🤛
you can improve the reslution reduction from dlss by enabling dsr factor in nvidia app or nvidia control panel .. when enabled u have 2 choices i personally use 1.78x and i play on 1440p monitor
I've been saying bad things about dlss 4 not because it's bad, but because we got dlss 4 INSTEAD of a performance uplift on 50 series; using it on older gpus is such a great way to make the best of this crap situation
nvidia have delivered DLSS 4 AS WELL AS a 30% raw performance uplift on the 5090 over 4090. At least, we would if we could actually buy a 5090...
@@mjb10 they jacked the price on the 5090; that doesn't count
The EFT Discord mods are still in the dark on this - this is happening driver side and not messing with the DLL's in the game files. They are in for a fight if they ban due to an official GPU driver - so far this has made EFT run more enjoyable and I can't wait to upgrade from my 11700k to an X3D AM5 CPU setup. Also I am running at Balanced within the DLSS models.
As a tip. You could use that fancy old non-AI upscaling to render these videos in 4K in order to get more bitrate from YT. Of course, it takes more time and space. Even with a 1440p monitor, you can then view the 4K video and enjoy a supersampled video that ought to be a bit clearer.
Another big thing with DLSS that is being missed a lot by people covering this, the snow falling is insanely more stable. TAA and old DLSS caused snow to look really blurry and also it had a bad smear/ghosting affect which is totally removed with new DLSS 4.
I love how this looks on SPT with enhanced graphics!
I just tried this, it's soooooo much better than the default it's actually crazy at least for my setup/monitor, I will also be using it, if I get perma'd for using this it's fine, I'll just finally be able to love myself and live a fulfilling life xD
for anyone who still isn't able to run it because it is greyed out: simply reinstall the nvidia app after installing the newest drivers. fixed it for me
Also make sure dlss is on in tarkov before you try to turn it on in nvidia app
You should do a video for Tarkov settings that can help everyones FPS that is seeing massive FPS drops due to scavs in Tarkov right now. Watch your FPS when playing a map in offline with Scavs on Horde.
No one. I mean no one can run practice with scav horde and scav war without having performance issues.
Speaking of inventory bug - it happens on current Tarkov's DLSS too - it happens because when you open your inventory/start looting, it stops DLSS from interacting with the rendering pipeline of the game, same happened in Diablo 4 for example, whenever you opened a map.
Only real solution for this problem would be enabling DLSS in inventory menu - but considering that BSG don't care at all, it has to be pushed by Tarkov's influencers to higher-ups because i tried multiple times contacting their support, community manager over discord - nothing, they don't care.
oh shoot... that antialiasing improvement is insame.. finally.. hated that sooo much
It's ironic to me that they refuse to optimize the game and instead make updates to attract new players. BSG could also just update their ToS to be more user friendly, since they also abuse law and regulation to use patented manufacturer models without permission... but we all know they won't.
*Edit: another reason why I just stick to SPT. Won't have to worry about doing performance related fixes there, since there's nobody there to ban you.
Hey!
In many scenes I can see that DLSS 4 brings some unwanted graphical corruptions to the presented frames. You can see 3 black blocks appearing on grass during the footage at 16:36. If you slow down the video you can see these appear on grass, which means some kind of shaders do not work correctly and display garbage for 1 frame. It's not a dealbreaker, but it might be the cause why it is not yet enabled by default in-game. :) I've been dealing with such issues in games for many years, as I work in a graphics tech company. More often than not these are driver issues that are game specific, so most probably Nvidia and BSG have to work together on fixing the implementation of DLSS4 or Nvidia has to check out the issue and fix it on their own.
Thanks for your insight! Just as an FYI though, I've seen this issue a while before enabling DLSS 4. I have heard from several of my PC Sherpa "Clients" about it too, so I think its a bug on a good chunk of systems. I hope BSG is putting in work to fix it as its been a thing for maybe a year IIRC.
@klemintime1452 I'm not a user of NVIDIA GPU, so it might be related to DLSS overall, not just the 4th version then. 😅
I enabled it via Nvidia profile inspector on a game by game basis, for the average user it might be difficult though because you have to know which settings to change.
I just don't like having anything more than the naked driver, hence why I tried with profile inspector.
Although I quickly turned it off again, as I don't like playing with DLSS and it doesnt really boost performance IMO in EFT because of the poor optimization since the 0.16 patch.
Cant wait to use this on my 7900xtx!
This would be a weird hill for BSG to die on, assuming they continue to discourage using DLSS4. But at this point nothing they do surprises me anymore.
I believe DLAA is not supported, because it simply doesn't work in the game. Whenever you try to force DLAA, be it with dlss tweaks or profile inspector, the game will look super shimmery and pixelated (99% resolution works, but is not officially supported and can get you banned theoretically)
This is something BSG will have to add themselves
Yeah I was playing with that before posting the video. I *really* hope they add native support for DLAA; would be a game changer.
I don’t know if anyone else has the same problem, but when I open the Nvidia app, under the graphics tab, its says “Cannot Retrieve Settings. Try Again Later.” for every game in my list.
I’ve uninstalled and reinstalled multiple times, no luck.
I tried the overrride anyhow, but when I enable DLSS, I get constant flickering of near and distant objects, which I feel is not worth it.
Later today I will try again, deleting the Nvidia Cache first, then uninstalling, them reinstalling.
Good luck!
Dlss is like taa only woth no input lagg but its still has the fundamental flaw of being blurry and at the moment its bugged and you dont get any better frames like you used too best option is to keep at native res and enjoy the crisp picture and deal with the staircaseing effect
(DL)DSR + DLSS ≥ DLAA
DLSS 4 is a game changer in Tarkov. To me it literally feels like going from 1080p to 1440p, absolutely massive.
Using DLSS 4 feels more like going from 1080p to 1440p, than going from 1080p to 1440p in Tarkov. Games aren't supposed to look blurry.
How'd you get this to work on 1080? The registry is not showing the "showdlssindicator" folder and when i go in game its not upscaling I only still have "quality" and "balanced" as options under NvidiaDlss
You didn’t talked about the shimmering / flicker that the new dlss bring when looking at trees like in Woods/Shoreline even lighthouse. For what I tested it’s good where there’s no tree otherwise the flicker/shimmering in the tree is too much for me
The day this came out, I went on their discord and stated this. Nobody seemed to notice. They were too busy arguing about cheaters. Haha. Thats Tarkov.
Is this something I could benefit from? I run a 9800x3d with a 4090. I never notice my Gupta going to 100%. I struggle to get my head around it all and how it effects the game/benefits me when playing
Being CPU-bound doesn't inherently disqualify DLSS. For you, it would only help with the image quality and not FPS. Feel free to choose whichever setting you like the look of more.
11:52 Issue is with alpha rendering of these 3D Models (assets), clipping, poor optimization etc. Nvidia (or AMD/Intel) should have never had to create this upscale/optimize technology but they did and now we are having this "new technology" that smears and distills poor image so it looks half decent.
Nice on RTX 4060 TI it worked, gave smooth game and +20 fps rly good!
DLSS 4 is amazing, made stalker 2 look SO MUCH better but I had to use dlss swapper..
when i used dlss 2nd option i legit couldnt see through green glass anymore. it was way too static looking. So as a customs main this pains me lol
It's also possible that this will get flagged by the anticheat if it is dll injection.
DLSS override could get you banned automatically even if the devs are not against using it, and it wouldn't be the first time a driver feature gets people banned : a number of Counter Strike 2 players were VAC banned because they turned on AMD Anti Lag 2's first version, which used to replace dlls to reduce latency.
In the end Valve and AMD got in touch to get the players unbanned, and Anti Lag 2 was temporarily removed from gpu drivers until a new version that would require games to outright implement it was released.
Yep- I remember that. I know that this is also supported in other Battleye enabled games though (like Rainbow Six Siege) so we'll see the long term effects of this change. Nvidia had to have thought of this before release, so maybe they're already cooking something if this *does* turn out to be an issue.
Also, I tried to look for a while to find the method the NVApp uses for swapping DLSS, but I could not find it. I'm assuming its just wrapping the current DLSS DLL but I'm not too sure (don't think its touching the game's DLL files though). I'll keep an eye out to see if there's any details on exactly how it does what it does to see if its more susceptible to anti-cheat detection.
@klemintime1452 as an AMD user i gotta amit i envy your game's visual stability lol. Really hope bsg implements dlss4 and eventually fsr4 if it turns out to be good
@@klemintime1452it’s about time people force BSG’s hand in updating the game
Seems like R6 Siege & Extraction are now only on the list with a checkmark, so no override support. Im pretty sure it was more games with [NV, T] mark. I guess the games on the list are still planned to get the support with future drivers. But there are still many online games on the list. ARK Ascended, Rust, Squad, Enlisted, Delta Force, Grayzone Warfare (they seem to have confirmed Nvidia App feature as safe, as long you do it via the app and not 3rd party programs like NVinspector) I think RDR2 has AC too? Lol even Overwatch 2 is on the list. So far a mix between different anti-cheat games and I havent read about any ban so far, except the one known guy on Grayzone Warfare, who did it with NVinspector though
I've literally been using DLSS tweaks for as long as I can remember they don't detect it its fine
Just so everyone knows for dlss to be whitelisted they contact the game companies and ask if their engines will support it. The fact that tarkov is on there as whitelisted means they were contacted and therefore cannot punish you for using it and if they do i would contact nvidia seeing as they will probably actually get back to you and help you. And makes sense since they have it whitelisted and tarkov devs are opposing it so contact nvidia id you get flagged.
Is there any source on that? Havent found such a statement by Nvidia while looking on different platforms. Because according to BSG staff they didnt got contacted.
hm wonder if FSR4 Driver Override will also work if they ever put FSR 3.1 in it
I wonder if that moderator knows that uploading any visual elements of game (so videos or screenshots) into internet is also against TOS (eula 4.2.2)
Port Olisar from Star Citizen is a top tier wallpaper :)
yea man i was like hell nah i know that station. I do miss it..
great ! but btw where did you get that live wallpaper ?
Nice video! Thks 👍
Says unsupported in the app now
Fixes listed in the pinned comment, reposted below:
If you Nvidia App is showing "unsupported", try the following things in this order:
- Ensure drivers and NVApp are up to date.
- Hit the three dots next to "Programs" on the left and hit "Refresh"
- Reinstall the Nvidia App.
- Download your driver package from Nvidia's website, then download DDU (Display Driver Uninstaller). Disconnect from wifi/ethernet and then use DDU in Safe Mode to wipe your old drivers. Then, once the cleaning is done and the system reboots, run the driver package you downloaded. Reconnect wifi. (Note: Disconnecting wifi is just to ensure Windows does not fetch any drivers during this process)
If you need some more guidance during this process, don't hesitate to ask in my discord :)
From my understanding the whitelist is not any sort of developer endorsement and is just Nvidia making sure the override works as expected, on the flip side it is ALSO my understanding that DLSS override is completely invisible to the game so it has no idea its happening. as far as the game is concerned it packages the necessary data and points to its own expected DLSS DLL, the GPU driver then ignores the DLL being pointed to and uses the version specified by the App instead.
This option is already disabled, it says "Unsupported" on Nvidia Application for EFT. Also the page from Nvidia for "NVIDIA DLSS & GeForce RTX: List Of All Games, Engines And Applications Featuring GeForce RTX-Powered Technology And Features" also the data for EFT from that table has changed and I have RTX 3090.
That would be a ridiculous ban… by checking boxes in their launcher and updating your cards bios… not installing cheats. Not running enhancement software. Just… checking the box in the games settings.
For even better image quality (at the cost of GPU eprformance) i would note the existance of DLDSR, which (as far as i understand) lets you render in Native res and then use DLSS for AA and Supersampling (guide - th-cam.com/video/nMiyS60bXrE/w-d-xo.html ). On AMD GPUs you can use FSR+VSR to do the same thing, but with FSR (FSR+VSR does seem to be more like a hack than an intended interaction, but it still does the job).
Big ups to my boy Chippa
Can you please tell me what this bug is? I’m running then all the sudden it’s like I’m transported back 2 feet. Idk how to explain it
Don't forget.
For most people (unless u wanna die to stupid things even more than normal) DLSS (any) is not a good thing to run UNLESS u don't use red dots and such.
Ghosting is way too awful.
I still recommend lossless scaling. I literally fixed ALL of my stuttering by locking fps to 72 and 2x frame gen to 144fps. Unfortunately for others, it's high end pc so there is no input lag. With lower end PCs I would suggest using FSR scaling with performance mode. A good idea for blur on scopes and similar issues is to lower the scaling resolution to 90, some ppl from my community achieved the best visuals on scaling resolution as low as 75 or even 70.
I'm curious if you can turn on that new dlss in LS. There is NIS option in scaling in LS scaling which is Nvidia Image Scaling. May be if you can turn on the new dlas in Nvidia app for LS and make it work idk, got to try it out
Nah... there is no options in Nvidia app for LS😂
@ I am talking about Lossless scaling, the 3rd party software not associated with nvidia. Some older gpus or amd ones can't run new DLSS, therefore the best solution is to try Lossless scaling. I am stunned how good that program is for so little money.
@@KapitanAlien91highly agree, and before anyone goes off about "input latency", there is a SLIGHT difference, but it's almost imperceptible especially if you just stick to 2x instead of the 3x or 4x modes. The extra smoothness far outweighs it and most testing has shown it to be negligible, even from an FPS game perspective.
@@WallyAMV If you set it up correctly, there is pretty much no noticable latency. Friend of mine tried Tarkov and LS on gtx 1660 and he is loving it.
bsg should try and learn from amands graphics on spt, it makes the game look so much better
Lossless scaling is a huge help it feels like. I don't have frame generation on, but other options are on.
what settings do you use?
It's trash, massive input lag on fast paced fps is a no-no, only scrubs don't feel the difference.
@@heramann6916 bUt cOrnEr nUmBeR hIgHeR
@heramann6916 it's a different experience with different settings i experienced the delay of course
@@heramann6916 you have input delay if you enable frame gen upscaling works fine
Tried 2 times, both times game get crashed, dont know why its can be occur, first time i think it was lossless scalling, but second time i run only dlss 4 and it still crashed from the game, will wait for fix that and then use it, graphical improvement is good, very clear image.
Anytime a game requires dlss to run at an even semi reasonable framerate, then it's a complete failure on the devs part.
Applaser lol not heard Daniel been called that before its Applezor awesome video though did you notice much of an FPS increase or decrease in any of the scenarios
Forgot how people called him lmao- but the only time this improves performance is when GPU-bottlenecked. I have guides on my channel for how to find that out, but basically, if your GPU usage is not 100% most of the time, so too will it not help FPS most of the time (lowering resolution does not improve FPS when CPU-bound)
@@klemintime1452 awesome cheers for the reply I understand hardware bottlenecks been working in IT for a while now i was just just unsure if there may be some performance differences as you are rendering on the gpu at a lot lower res and then upscaling
We need this but for FSR
Forest still plays after winter update with 50 fps...
I have the current driver version but in the registry the value showdlssindicator is not there...
same for me
did you find a fix for this?
No, I haven't found a fix
@@mesfigas I figured it out. You have to manually add the registry setting "ShowDlssIndicator" as decimal with the value 1024
@@HotloadsTTV I have done that but it still not shows up in game, what do you then have to do ?
i dont have this registry dlss indicator
its missing
you have to add it yourself then. it was the same for me
I went to the folder as you stated: Computer\HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\NVIDIA Corporation\Global\NGXCore but there I see no Show DLSS notification. What do I do? I an on a 3080 12gb RTX
same for me, the whole entry is missing
For some reasons i can't activate DLSS override - Model Presets on my Gigabyte 4090 Gaming OC. I install last version of Nvidia App and Drivers for GPU... 😬
Delete the app. Through add or remove, then reinstall the nvidia app from their website. Before booting restart your pc. It should then work.
@@DrdurexxComplete reinstallation of drivers did not help and uninstallation of the application did not help. The DDL program helped, it completely removed the drivers, cleaned everything in the registry and after rebooting I first installed the drivers with a clean installation and then the application. Now everything works as it should!
I use to get 120 to 130 frames on streets. What happened?
I found a guide to adjust the preset with Nvidia inspector and gives the ability to adjust the DLSS base resolution higher than 67% giving more flexibility than quality
You should check the inspector again, i tried doing that and every time i launch tarkov it changes back to original setting
Now turn on a flashlight
Do we know if RTX dynamic Vibrance works in Tarkov?
You can only use the cheats Nikita approves
I fixed all of the issues by uninstalling Tarkov! You should try it too!
the key DLSS Indicator is missing on my registry , have i to create it? thx
1:26 I miss Port Olisar o7
Does this work for arena? I was able to override regular tarkov to latest model but for arena they are all unsupported
anone else cant find Registry Path for DLSS Indicator?
i cant
You can add it yourself; I added some text in the pinned comment for that. Sorry I didn't mention it in the video- didn't know how widespread this issue would be.
If ShowDlssIndicator is not present in the registry, make a DWORD (32 bit) file and name it "ShowDlssIndicator". Then input the values shown at 8:42
Man I have 4090 and 7800x3d and I play woods mostly and the trees shimmer and flicker so bad with dlss4 or dlss in general and I don't know how to fix it
I did this and continuously got unity crashes every time the map started to load. I figure my motherboard and cpu just can't go as fast as the memory and it just shuts down.
Tarkov's stability issue is sadly all CPU bottleneck. Relieving the GPU will do nothing to help stutter.
The removal of flicker/sparkle effects of long distance objects will be a welcome change though.
have a 490 but the regedit link didnt give me the option to tweak, its not there in the reg
so i just made the file got it
so does this mean useing lossless scaling is against ToS?
lossless scaling doesn't touch ANY game files so no.
Hey in the registry i don't have the file "NGXCore" why ?
The thing that is bothering me is I run a 14900k, 4080 and 64gb ram, 1440p. With DLSS on any setting I get way higher frames, less screen tearing and a more stable image, but as a result I feel like I have a slower sensitivity and the mouse feels "stuttery" when I turn, almost like the feeling when you go back to a 60hz monitor after you've been used to a 120hz+ monitor. The movement is just not smooth and I struggle to see anything while turning. With DLSS off I get lower frames but the mouse input feels absolutely perfect and smooth when I turn. Any idea what would be causing that? Like as a reference running around woods offline I will get 160fps with DLSS off, but with it on quality I sit at roughly 195fps, balanced 215-220 fps and performance 230fps. But they all feel worse despite having better frames?
I'm all about performance usually but I care more about mouse input and smoothness than anything else. I thought it might be something to do with the frames being way higher than the hz rating of the screen but I tried capping my FPS to 165fps and it just made the mouse feel even worse. It drops my sensitivity to like half and it feels like it has input lag.
try with Low Latency Mode: On or Ultra
Turn your polling rate down to 1000 and your dpi down to 800.
I can’t explain the months I spent wasting time trying to figure out the same sort of issue and it was because of dpi/polling rate
Is balanced power plan recommended for tarkov in nivida control panel? 7800x3d + 4070ti
Does it give/increase input lag vs no dlss?
Can you do a post on your Audeze sound settings for Tarkov? I cant seem to nail down the right settings to hear others footsteps.
Ping me in my discord and I can send you a screenshot of what I run. It can be a *little* tinny, but I prefer it for most games (also, if you'd like it, the txt version is below):
32hz: -5
64hz: -3
125hz: 4
250hz: 3
500hz: 0
1khz: 0
2khz: 0
4hz: 3 (can be lowered for comfort)
8khz: 1
16khz: -1
i still having some flickering, on a 5700x3d, 3070 and 32mb ram, idk why.
since updating this driver i get a black screen when tapping out of the game...even in borderless mode. anyone else having this issue?
Assuming this doesnt work on RTX 2080 TI as I dont have ShowDLSSindicator inside the registery
you can create the file inside the folder no problem
I uninstalled the nvidia app and all the driver bloat with DDU as it was the only solution to the freezing I get ingame. I looked at DLSS swapper and DLSS Tweaks to get dlss4 on tarkov without nvidia app but I saw that it's a dll injection which be bannable by battleye. How do I get dlss4 without nvidia app and not get banned?
I dont understand why but, when i enable dlss it looks so good, but when i play and scav og raiders spawn, i get lag and fps drop🙄 my pc is not the issue