Tesla FSD v12.5.3 on HW3 - How Does It Perform?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 9 ก.พ. 2025
- This was filmed on September 5th, 2024. This video showcases FSD Supervised v12.5.3 (2024.27.20) on HW3 and includes my first impressions and general commentary on how it operates.
As you are aware, this version includes the long awaited 'Actually Smart Summon' (aka A.S.S.).
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CHAPTERS:
00:00 - Beginning of Video
00:48 - Release Notes for 12.5.3
01:25 - Low Cost High Performance Tires
02:04 - Obstacle Avoidance Testing
05:00 - Unprotected Left Test No.1
05:28 - Busy Indian Supermarket Test
08:16 - FSD Performance vs. ASS Performance
09:03 - Comments on Additional Tests w/ FSD 12.5.3
11:08 - Leaving Indian Supermarket
12:48 - Missed Entrance
13:57 - U-Turn Test
14:31 - Strange Positioning for Left Turn - Intervention
15:25 - Unprotected Left Test No.2
17:00 - Autopilot / FSD Settings in Menu
17:48 - Impressive Right and then Left Turn
18:24 - FSD Gets Stuck in Parking Lot
20:07 - Legacy Autopark / Summon Feature for USS Cars
22:44 - Actually Smart Summon Tests
24:54 - Rear Display Accessory for Model 3 Model Y
I first received FSD (Beta) 10.3 back on October 24th, 2021 as a '99' safety score driver.
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Please excuse the overuse of the added sound clips- I was having way too much fun. 😂 In the future, I’ll use less of these & reduce the volume. I believe it adds to the video, but needs to be balanced. 🫡 🙇♂️
I didn't think it was overdone. Keep doing what you're doing man. Have absolutely been loving your vids as someone who just recently got a model Y
Yes it's a bit overdone, but the main culprit is when you use tracks that have been memed to death like Simon Says, which can still be funny when done right but does not fit an autonomous driving failure because it's been so overused it's painfully cheesy.
Your channel needs to blow up. One of the best FSD channels out there. You're the only one out there giving a real world impression of what it's like using FSD - not cherry picked early morning or late afternoon drives on a predefined route with minimal traffic - no, you go all out in rush hour with pedestrians. Great camera setup, great commentary, great production value. Honestly, this seems like an algorithm issue, hope this gets fixed!
@@caffeinee Thank you! 🙏
@@caffeinee Comments like this keep me going. I really appreciate it. 🙏❤️
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Yup!
Checkout Cybrlyft too. Over 100k tracked FSD kilometres. He have great FSD Tracker.
Don't know why your channel doesn't grow fast either, it's excellent!! Thank you so much for the posts
@@impc8347 thank you so much! I try! 🙏
@@techgeektesla Honestly, it's probably because you don't cheapen your personal brand by exploiting the algorithm with click bait thumbnails and misleading and sensationalized titles. But I (and others) 100% appreciate you for it.
Thank you for reporting improvements, glitches and regressions fairly. Very helpful.
Yooooo that branch test was awesome! If it had reverse capability, it could’ve easily gotten itself out of that situation. Wow nice! I can’t wait for that to happen man. 😄🥳
The why it behaved in the parking lot gave me goose bumps, as an investor watching how good fsd is getting is reassuring x
7:20, tight squeeze: Not sure why he's not overlaying the FSD screen to show how it was managing it through that parking lot on its own.
14:40, going left: Same here...no FSD screen. I'd love to see FSD showing its path as it contemplated a left turn while stopping there. Perhaps, he could wait it out a bit more (if no car behind) to determine if FSD was trying to wait for opposing traffic to clearcout or not. Or, would FSD just wait forever ? Or, would it make a mistake and cross that pavement divider ? It appeared that the paint on that barrier was confusing. Should be either no paint or solid paint ... Why dash paint as if you can cross over to pass a car in front ?
@@choongta sadly, my FSD screen output video feed froze up here…
Nicely done. Commentary is good. The background music around 17:34 is great. The funny ‘musical interludes’ as on 3:52 and 18:13 could be less though.
@@AnthonyCorreiaNYC thank you! I appreciate the valuable feedback. I admit I got a little carried away with the sound overlays on this one. Debated wiping entirely and reposting.
Thanks VERY much. I like the sound clips/voice overs. As a less experienced user I gain a more nuanced feel for how the new updates are unfolding. I love the periscope view too. One of the comments mentioned the TH-cam algorithm goes by number of posts. I know nothing about this, but maybe if you did some SHORTS... recap of key elements in a current post or an announcement with a short teaser of a soon to be released signature polished presentations. Lucky me that you enjoy doing this.
Your channel is one of the bests! I liked the clear view without the screen, although it wasn't intended.
Thanks for your thorough and unbiased analysis of FSD. Really enjoyed your video. Please keep it up!
Well i must say I find your videos truly excellent! I love the informed commentary, the music, the underlying humour elements. Just so much fun to watch, keep up the good work. I see nothing wrong with asking people to like and subscribe, it reminds people thats how the algorithm works and nearly always prompt me to like a video where i may normally forget.
You just gained another sub. Of course you will grow bigger, with such good content. Refreshing to have a new young perspective
Excellent video! The smooth parking lot driving is encouraging to watch under 12.5.3. I'm looking forward to upgrading from 12.3.6 on my '21 MY when the new versions go out into wide-release
Hey you made it to 10k subs! Me included! Was talking to you on x last night too that’s funny lol
Excellent video as usual thank you. Fingers crosses for an action packed couple of months in the fsd world!
I took your recommendation and buying some tires! Thank you!
first video showing 12.5.3 on hw3! also testing actually smart summon while youre in the vehicle to describe how it actually drives is awesome 👍
Would love to see your overall impression at the end. Thanks for the content.
Congrats on 10k subs
I love your testing! 3:30 I know you were moving the tree limb haha, awesome testing though
Great to see the old neighborhood. I lived at 21 Kristin from 1975 to 1992. Now in Vegas. Have an AI3 2019 M3LR. Great videos.
You are good. Thanks.love your tests.
That manoeuvring in the parking lot was crazy! You should've shown the inside, some people won't believe it!
do a shorts version of that a la AIDRIVR style and go viral!
Great Video From England 😁😁 shame we will probably never get this here :(
Great honest video, thank you and keep up the good work. It will grow with this consistent, great content.
1st time I've watched your channel & I'm impressed with your narration, so I subscribed.
@@petecunningham47 thank you so much 🙏
Great video as always. Love your channel and hope it grows faster!
"There's this guy that keeps pulling branches into the road..."
Nice editing, like the sound clips and fast forward sequences. Nice analysis, subbed!
The issue with FSD is, it is very unpredictable. With every s/w updates something or other changes. On highways good enough,not so on crowded internal roads with peak hour traffic. Last few days, it neglected no turn signs, school zones, almost hit a school bus on rear(I disengaged), tried to take incorrect turns, tried to change lanes at zero speed(very unsafe) with speeding cars on back on other lane. When I feel sleepy, I use it to wake me and be super alert.😂
Agreed, after the hype cools down (compared to v11, it is really much better), I found it unreliable too.
It could be simply due to upload frequency that is keeping your subscriber level low - the algo doesn't push your content. I think the quality of your content is great, but may be you can upload some Shorts AIDRVR style to see if it helps you. Keep up the good work!
Just spotted that you are asking people to give a thumbs up or thumbs down for how a test goes, but I suspect any thumbs down is telling TH-cam that your video is bad - which may be what is reducing your signups
Keep up the good work, I always go to your channel for latest FSD reviews
so good,thank so much, cant wait another round in downtown chicago at rush hour
finally! been waiting for your update for days.
congrats on 10k!! upvoted!!
Thank you! 🙏
Excellent video, thanks for all of your awesome FSD testing!
Good job can’t wait to get my update
Thank you for the video, looking forward to more. Congrats on 10k subs🎉
excellent job
Nice editing and video!
Big props to you for getting cheap tires. Kills me when people just pay huge for OEM.
Nice video with some great explanation and analysis of what's actually going on. I've been stuck on 12.3.6 for months in my 2020 model S. Really hoping to get some kind of 12.5 build sometime soon....but it does sound like the delays are justified.
Better than what I have. Turns are smooth. Drive is sweet and gentle. Just what I need and FSD 12.3.6 isn’t there yet.
Wow that parking lot driving was fantastic
Good video. It is hard to wait for FSD in Europe.
Excellent video as usual. Thank you!
how i haven’t discovered your channel earlier?! subscribed :)
@@DanielSzewczyk1 awesome! Thank you! 🙏
Been watching your videos for a while finally subscribed thought I was already but great video . And will eventually get that screen soon
Welcome to the future, this is incredible
The Patel Brother's parking lot navigation was freakishly good. Boggles my mind how a computer is able to manage that.
Congratulations!! Hope to get it soon.. Y22 pro still running 12.3.6
I really hope they open it up. I don't understand the hold up.. it's really seems much safer..
Great drive thanks for sharing.. 🇺🇸✌️
One of the safest behaviors of FSD is that it completely ignores impatient honking
That's not a good thing when someone is honking to warn you of some hazard. Plus, obnoxious honking is an indication of road rage, and that can be a bad thing to ignore.
When do people honk to warn people?@@TheSpartan3669
Well deserved subscribe, love your videos
Auto park turns on when you drive less than 5 miles per hour, select your spot and hit the start button which appears on your screen
Amazing channel.
Show some love subscribed great video
Holy shit. That tire cost is insane.
Interesting where do you live and where are you getting your tires from? $380 seems ballpark range in terms of cost
@@m_hall The costco near me doesn't have a single full set below $1000
@@m_hall380 for a set?? My tires are nearly 380 a piece. I’m not putting cheap Korean tires on my M3P. Pretty sure it would eat these for breakfast anyways. I go through a set of tires every 1-1/2 years and it’s around 1300-1500$ each time. But I’m a bit rough on my car and will go to the tail of the dragon once or twice a year, so I’m not surprised.
@@jararered ah I thought your were saying they were expensive lol. Yes they're quite cheap I paid like $650 for tires at discount tires a few years ago
Just paid $390 for one Conti ProContact RX which are the oem tires. @ a Discount Tire in the Las Vegas area. You got four for my one. 👍
thanks for all the work.
You can slow down while engaged in FSD, just scroll down on the right scroll wheel
You should have tried to use actually Smart summon when you got stuck inside the car in that back alley
Subscribed and Supported! - 21 M3 SR+ still hoping to get off 12.3.6 :)
@@GooseWurkz did you get 12.5 yet?
@@techgeektesla Just got it 30 mins ago!
Though Tesla did just change the wording to their description of FSD to remove the part about it continuously improving - right after introducing new software that pushes the limits of the HW3 computer installed in most Teslas currently in service. It's not unreasonable to assume that Tesla is losing confidence in HW3 eventually driving without human supervision.
Sweet!!
Great video and camera angles. Great Tesla is pushing out quality upgrades and on course for 2025. Can you please conclude with number of interventions and stats of the drive..
I suggest changing the screen to dark mode - it records better and looks better, IMHO.
Bro really busted out the tree branches lol hell yeah
When is this supposed to be available to all of us on Hardware 3?
Going around people in a parking lot that are trying to park, while the people leaving the spots are already trying to back up is pretty bad. 😂 7:52
Subbed! 💪🏻
Can't wait for my 12.5.3! Still waiting! My current version 12.2.6 is hardly ever available for whatever reason!
Try it in McHenry. I’m on 12.3 but it reads all the route signs so it ends up slowing down to 20 in a 45 zone.
wow, can't even avoid a stationary obstacle and shits itself if it is too narrow. Great Job FSD.... Imagine if the obstacle was moving and the car was moving at the same time.
I want this update on my HW3 - can’t wait for FSD to reverse it. It would be cool if when it failed to go past the tree it backed up and rerouted to avoid it if it thought it can’t go past it.
Wow those tires are insane… I just got tires that were $400 each! Model Y performance though so
Where is the mass rollout they promised for this week. Just let us have it already.
I watched the entire video and came back to find what tires you recommended, could you tell me which ones you had ?
Your presentation is good. Please get a better mic for your voice over.
Mine clips curbs and it even clipped an MTA bus on my right mirror. Is this a calibration issue? You’d think it would be able to self calibrate or tell you if it isn’t
I think it is actually a good product, but there is still plenty of work to do in order to polish it out for real „FSD“ capabilities.
Thank for the video 😊
Why do you say that the only way to adjust the speed is to disengage? I am constantly adjusting the speed in FSD using the right scroll wheel.
not if autospeed is turned on
The elevator music/sound effects are a little much for me but personally but otherwise good stuff. Volume balance at least for the elevator music is a little too high compared to the commentary volume. Love seeing how everything is working on "old" hardware.
@@TheMagico13 thanks for the feedback! (🏃♂️me running to the store to get new headphones 😂)
Love the channel... hate that u use the curb music wrong... it's always meant for awkward social interactions or ironic twists but whatever yeah hehe
@@George2647g thanks
When are we getting this? 2024 Model Y and still stuck on FSD 12.3.6 which almost killed us last week on the highway.
The soundbites are a little odd and misplaced as well
How the hell did you get it I haven't had an update in thee months.
Guess I need to create a TH-cam channel so I get the FSD updates in a timely fashion. Still sitting on 12.3.6 while everyone else it having a great time on 12.5.x
@@Cinder-g2o Not everyone else. Only a few. Trust me, you are not missing out on very much.
6:45 did you give it any juice to make it go?
When it will mass released??! Who knows? I have 2022 model 3 hw3 but still didn't get my update yet.…
I’m on hardware 3 12.4.3. 12.5.3 seems much less hesitant. The double full stop at stop signs and extreme hesitation to enter cross traffic is driving me crazy.
What year is yours? I am on 12.3.6. On a 2019 M3.
@@SlugZzSs 2019 Model 3
@@SlugZzSs did you get 12.5 yet?
I would suggest you take a drive on I88 towards DeKalb and back. You would find several speed changes because the tollway has placed signs in the order of first truck 65 mph speed limit sign, then 70 mph sign for cars, then 65 mph sign for busses. fsd cannot process bus speed limit sign, so base speed drops to 65. Be sure no one is behind you!
As they say.. age is just a number, so does a software version identifier! Extremely high confidence that FSD v12.5.3, Edited: change "when installed" to read "when installing", can detect the presence of HW3 or HW4, and will automatically branch to the section of the program designed for the detected hardware.
I don't think so, they can't release at the same time 2 different neural nets versions (subtil difference can have big impacts in edge cases). The neural net is highly likely the same, but they have optimized the HW3 compiler to have enough performance to power the same AI as HW4.
@@erwile I have edited my original post for clarity. While FSD v12.5.1.3 was released about a month ago, FSD v12.5.1.5 was released about two (2) weeks ago. Tesla easily could have delayed the release of FSD v12.5.1.3 by two (2) weeks, and releases FSD v12.5.3 covering HW3 and HW4 vehicles at the same time. If that were the case, the installer software piece can simply OTA FSD v12.5.1.3 and FSD v12.5.1.5 to HW4 vehicles and HW3 vehicles, respectively.
@@TuneupMagic they didn't want to deceive the customers, because it was not the same ai...
@@erwile I take "they" to mean Tesla. So, you meant to say that a vehicle manufacturer that named its ADAS (advanced driver-assistance system) Full Self-Driving, when in fact needing constant human supervision, didn't want to deceive the customers??
Oh no… the double press park button thing is how I park in my single car garage every day.. I hope I don’t lose that when I get this update pushed to me
The way it pauses for 12 seconds during summon cautions is not going to work. Maybe maximum 6 seconds but 12 seconds is too long. A 12 second pause will confuse people walking in the parking lot and other drivers.
There is no new video since the 5th. Wonder if Tesla stopped the release to nerf the functions.
My model 3 2022 is stuck at v12.3.6 and I don’t get any updates for a long time. Is there anything reason behind it
How do you have the full screen fsd visuals? The chrome trim etc tells me your model 3 is a 2018 version. How did u get the amd chip?
@@GIZMO9021 I have Intel chip. It’s a 2019 Model 3. LR RWD. Full specs listed in the description. 😉
@@GIZMO9021 Need FSD to get full visuals.
Hardware 4 is leaps ahead of hardware 3. I had both. I hope Tesla announces an upgrade path for older vehicles.
It’ll be called buy a new car.
@@LordStevie I agree but more than half the fleet is hardware 3. I doubt hw3 is robotaxi ready.
6:28 Almost look like you have come to India
@@curioussand1339 true.
It’s terrible for me. It still refuses to stay in the right lane, it misses loads of speed limits and drives 10-15 below (about 40% of the time), I disengage constantly for wrong turns, it almost changed lanes into another vehicle, and it still auto removes minimal lane changes. This is the tip of the ice berg.