I'm lost and confused. I think it would be better for me to actually try it physically because I watch this video over ten times and I don't know what the hell you talking about smh
@@alg5169 dude its like changing gears in a car! Do you how i learned to drive a truck.... Louisville 9000 boss said "know how to drive a truck" i said na he pointed at the buttons "park n trailer breaks H 1st 2nd 3rd 4th you'll figure it out good luck see ya at the bottom" he jumped in a kenworth and took off down the hill i had 12km of winding mountain road infront of me I made it
Keep it in mind, I was an Engineer pre Great recession. All that was hiring in 2010 was trucking, it is the only thing I know of that you can make 500 to 800 just to train. I am now local working 7 to 4. I love driving a truck, I am too lazy to work, too chicken to steal, so I drive a truck.
@@trentallman984 Nice man, I am currently a charter pilot and learning how to drive a truck. I might go all the way and become a tanker driver by this next year.
@@bugnut82 I know from a friend that tanker is hard on your body, every time you stop you get hit in the back, logging is also something to avoid. Refer is a whole lot of waiting. Flatbed if you have to tarp is a young man's job as is food delivery. Dry freight is the easiest, usually quick loading and unloading, you just have to drive. You may be well equipped to drive at night but I was not. Very hard to change your body clock. I am now getting $0.75 per mile and 3600 miles in 8 days.
@@trentallman984 This particular operation isn't too bad on the body, they have some really nice baffled tanks. It's a mon-fri job with an 8-9 hour day, so it's pretty awesome!
20 year trucker here! Great video and to all rookies out there if you get into a situation where you cant pull the shifter out of gear just push the clutch in a bit and it'll pop out of there! Trust me there will be situations like that! Thanks for the video, keep the shiny side up!
For me it was fear that keep me away. Once I got over that fear and started practicing I realized that I'm just like my Grandfather. I just wish he was here with me Driving together. Them old trucking stories he told me and my brother were awesome!!
For me its pure fear and I dont know why I cant get over it i just have fear i dont know if its my instructor or the pressure of wanting to just get it down i just know the structure of it but cant translate it as easy because of this fear I have. And bless your grandpa god rest his soul.
@@thenormalworldofwes6656 I know this is a old post and I hope you're trucking, but never let fear get in your way. Your instructor was once a rookie too. I'm sure you're not going to do something he has never seen before. People are going to grind gears, struggle to back up, etc... No one is going to get in the truck and just shift perfectly fine. I been driving on and off for 12+ years and I still have my days! Some days I can't back and it looks like my first day! The more space you have is the hardest. It sounds crazy, but it's just how it is. You give me a tight spot with two trucks and I will put it in the middle of both, you give me 3 acres and i'm out there pulling up back and forth LOL
Whatever u do, don’t float gears ⚙️ when taking ur CDL road test with the trooper. Instant fail. They need to see u double-clutching. U can do whatever u want after u pass.
Our school instructor is showing us how, along with clutching. If we struggle he has us float a coupleyears, get our mind back into shifting, then we shift some,
I started out in the U.S. Air Force back in the 1970's . They sent me to the U.S. Army Corps Of Engineers Heavy Equipment School at Fort Leonardwood Missouri . I learned all kinds of heavy equipment operating there and learned how to drive semi trucks & dump trucks . The old M series military trucks . 5 speed with 4th & 5th reversed in the pattern . Then I went to U.S. Air Force Red Horse unit . They had twin stick Mack's and 5 speed international dump trucks & semi tractors . Years later I was driving trucks with the old RT613 13 speed Road Ranger transmissions and old late 70's Kenworth's with reverse 9 speeds & Detroit's . Went on to the red splitter knob 13 speeds and 8LL transmissions . I retired from driving in 1996 . The good ol' days :-)
Hi, I'm 42 years old and I've been driving trucks, since I was 18 years and I can't believe I did not know that. Thanks man . I specialty is a super 10 or 13 speed. Believe me, I learned something today. Thanks a million. i can't wait to hit the road in Canada. Good job. 👍
Thank you Neil, I’m sure you are full of knowledge I probably haven’t even heard of yet LOL. That’s precisely why I keep open ears to anyone no matter how long they have been driving. It may not always be the best but closed ears never hear
Make sure that you double clutch in your road test... another note for your road test, most troopers want to see you downshift on approach to a stop as well. Love the video, great information
I haven’t driven a stick in 13 yrs. I have a road test next week so I came here for a quick refresher course. I don’t have access to a stick without current employer getting suspicious lol. You’re vid helped tremendously! Thank you
Today was my first day of driving a 10spd CDL class holy cow I just about grinded every gear so much different than my 6spd Cummins specialy the clutch and not pressing it all the way in
The most trusted & reliable H D Trucks gearbox easy to learn & easy & fun to drive you were among the elite when you mastered this gearbox with shifting without the clutch And skipping gears on the up shift & down shift and discovering that hidden gear on a 10 speed so you don’t have to drop into low Range when crawling thru heavy slow moving traffic secret is you need to feel for that gear while trying to penetrate that far left wall and put that shifter in your back pocket You have to learn to roll that stick with your finger tips
Good luck to ya, hopefully you'll find a company or truck thats a manual, lot more fun thats for sure, and if you can float em, you know you're a real trucker!!!
My second phase coach was for city p/d if you were having trouble and getting lost in the gears he would hold your hand and walk you through it and tell you when to clutch. It worked great. He would also hit you in the shoulder if you didn't look both ways before entering an intersection even if you had a green light.
For those in km/h increment, if you are looking for a gear to jump in, the trick is the following: 10 km/h + 2 = 3rd gear; 20km/h + 2 = 4th gear; 30km/h + 2 = 5th gear, and so on. Basically, the first number of the road speed + 2 will get you a gear to shift in.
I beg you please do more video I’m just starting and I just can’t believe how I just learn in 15mins what I’ve been trying to understand this entire week of school. Any back tips with this? Downshifting videos?
Some things I noticed at the test site, first, adjust your seat, mirrors and steering wheel properly. Second, wear your seatbelt, 3rd always face the inside of the truck with 3 points of contact at all times, getting in and out. I seen instant failures by seasoned veterans at the test site. Number one rule, don't stall the truck, number two rule, don't follow too closely or enter an intersection with heavy opposing traffic as the light will change and you will run a red light. Pull out till your shoulder on your body hits the double yellow, then cut your turn hard, you will never hit a curb this way. Mentally, alway remember WHAT GEAR YOU ARE IN. KEEP YOUR HEAD MOVING IN THOSE MIRRORS AND CONSTANTLY COMMUNICATING WITH THE EXAMINER. Don't assume nothing, open your mouth.
Drove 10 speed in 53 foot trailer today.First time tractor - trailer. Got my class B cdl last year. Thought it was going to be the same going from regular 6 speed to class A, just with more gears. Humbled me real quick. I'm honestly a bit nervous but guy I was with said I was picking up on it quick and smooth. My biggest thing is missing gears and not knowing where to shift to when that happens. Hopefully the speed adding helps. I'll try it next time. Thanks!
xAirbournex there no reason to be nervous, everyone is going to miss gears when they start driving. Practice makes perfect. Personally I don’t agree with the adding speed to figure out gears, every single truck will shift a little different. I drive a 13 or 18 speed every day and don’t even think about what I’m doing because i have a feel for the truck and just know when and where to shift.
It's been fifty years or more since i drove a ten speed, went to 13 then 15, back to 13 it had lower ratio for pulling, finally in my first large car an 18 speed, thanks for showing newbies how, pull toy here.
Seth N. Not going to lie this is 6 months later and i've been in an automatic around town and such i'll never go back but for out in the bush i still would prefer having a stick in my hand. Just getting used to running the auto in manual and it's pretty awesome!
We had to double clutch at CDL program I went to, It wasn't bad at all...half the time I just faked clutched once got the hang of it. Then I went to a Tanker company and we were taught to skip shift as much as possible(to keep the wave at rear as much as possible), but tanker driving will really make a shifter out of you lol. You either getting hit with the slam constantly or figure out the rhythm needed.
I’m driving for 20 years now and I have to say this is a fantastic video. It’s important for drivers to understand the clutch brake. I had no idea what it was or that it existed until I was driving about 4 years and mine went out of adjustment! Then it makes sense really quick. Just a side note for the new drivers: when the clutch brake isn’t working you’ll press the clutch all the way down with substantial pressure and it will take a few seconds before it goes into gear. Thanks for taking the time to help the rookies!
This is brilliant. Thank you so much for this. I've driven 10- speeds but the last few years been driving company autos and I am buying my own truck soon.
Thank you for the tip on the clutch. I've been trying to teach myself how to double clutch and I keep on going to the floor with it. I'm definitely going to try this. Where I'm working we've got Eaton 10 speeds so the whole video has given me some ideas to try. Thanks again!
My shifting instructor gives no pre-trip tips like this. I noticed the difference between high and low today in the RPMs after only one hour (my first) in the truck. Would have been nice had my instructor mentioned what to look for instead of my having to figure it out. Good job! Subbed!
A big concern of mine heading into school next month - especially never having driven a manual of any kind, is remembering what gear I’m in. Good video. I suggest the headset mic during rolling commentary. 👍🏻
I never drove a manual car or truck except for tractors and stuff like that. But i was rolling after the first hour. It’s easy. You will be able to tell by your speed and rpms. After awhile you won’t even think about it
I'm working on my Class 1 License to drive one of those old Pacific Off Highway trucks. They all run that Allison Automatic, but I still need to learn for *other* jobs.
Good stuff....looks like you were shifting rather smoothly...that’s the way I like to do it, too. You explained it well. Keep on trucking! Porter Dude of Ohio.
I work random jobs and every truck I've been in had zero clutch break. I tend to just make a full stop in gear with the clutch in to avoid the dreaded grind of coming out of neutral to find a gear. I'm still a newbie and tend to snub gears quite a bit from not paying enough attention to the RPMs and rushing my shifts and having to wait for the RPM to drop before it goes in. Getting better every day though :)
Helpful tips My experience : i started with a coach on the first day i rode with him i was behind the wheel, he had covered the rpms with a sticky note ! When i asked he said forget about it for the whole time u r riding with me and listen to the engine sound, i missed and ground gears the first day 😬 Now i don't even look on my rpms and enjoy driving manual transmission It's a helpful tip i thought i could share the love 😚
I leave for training this Sunday and this video made me confident in switching the gears..💯👍😁THANKS ALOT!!! YOU EXPLAINED EVERYTHING TO THE T!! AND DEMISTATION WAS ON POINT!!!!!!!!!!!
Good training video for new drivers. I've done 9, 10, 13, 18, super 10, and old school twin stick while messing around with an old kw. Only time I touch the clutch is to start off from a stop and stop.
Thank you for vid.. right on tune!! Every well explained. I wish some body showed me this when I was starting out.. I drive a 13 speed long nose pet 3 axle dump truck and the way you explained this was right on the only difference the 13 is is on the high gears you split each gear but that's for big boys!!!
Good video! Great info on the clutch brake. Do NOT push the pedal to the floor with the truck moving or it will severely damage the clutch brake. It's a clutch brake, not a truck brake!
I might start doing farm trucking next year. You don't need a CDL because it's farm plated. I drive F550s with long trailers and big loads all the time, and occasionally a dump truck short distances, hopefully I can learn the semi fast enough to he useful
I just learned how to float by ear, now by number from you , currently on the side of the road though my Mack won’t come out of 9th gear even with the shifter in neutral 😅
Just started double clutching today! It's the gears and their places that I need to understand with out having to look one hour later I was getting the hang of it though
I already know how to double clutch smoothly, up shift and down shifts, now I want to learn and I’m in the process of learning how to float, give my left knee a break.
With your foot on the gas, move the shifter to the next gear and apply pressure. Take your foot off the gas and shift into the gear. Give it gas and repeat. If u have trouble with grinding, just tap the gas pedal to get into the gear.
Having driven standard transmission 5 tons, I determine when to shift by sound. When engine reaches max rpm for that gear, sound tells you it is time to shift backing down rpm for upshift. or increase rpm for down shift. It slips into gear with gentle pressure, or out of gear. Doing it right doesn't require the clutch, BUT there is DANGER TO DAMAGE THE TRANSMISSION, so it not officially allowed.
On my CDL test the guy made me use the clutch every single shift...up or down. If I floated gears (how I learned to drive) he took points off. Ended up passing but he bitched the whole time about how I was “destroying the truck” by floating gears (keep in mind I didn’t grind once). Also it was MY truck 😂
@@thedukeofmulberry yes, ended up having to after he told me he’d mark each “improper shift” as an error. I guess at least he let me know before I wound up failing over something so dumb. he could have just let me go on until I failed, I was shifting smoothly and didn’t see anything wrong with how I drove. You are allowed 28 errors or points before you fail, I passed with 21, at least 8 of which were for not using the clutch to shift. Since I also wasn’t allowed to skip gears after starting off I managed to rack up those 8 points pretty quick, we took a loop through a town, 2 lane road and finally interstate so I probably shifted close to 100 times in the test.
@@bilbobaggins1934 If you can’t float properly and know the shift points yes can damage it. But it’s perfectly fine if you do smooth as butter. I float all the time, except for under a heavy load pulling hills.
@@bilbobaggins1934 Also as long as everything is done right and correctly there is ZERO advantage to double clutching except for a worn out leg and wearing out a clutch brake prematurely
@@topshotjay4331 yes i did! only took me 3 trys in total. 1st try i completed the airbrake and manuvers but ran out of the time. 2nd time i failed the on road due to coasting to a stop and passed the 3rd time
Thanks for making this. My test is in 2 days I have one more 3 hour class tomorrow. I grinded a lot of gears today especially in the 3rd to 4th range. Kind of got frustrated with myself.
@@DrivenTrucking yes sir I find that on a 10 speed 6th gear seems to be a safe spot that’s always easy to get into. Thanks again for responding man very cool!!!!
Good video! My CDL test wasn't with that kind of transmission haha but i did ok enough to pass. It was i believe an 8 speed.....? over and up, reverse, over and down 8th. so no range selector and had to put the clutch all the way to the floor to shift. So just like a car i guess. The instructor helped me through it and i made it :D Had my CDL class A since April 2020 and still watching haha. Doesn't hurt to learn more! :D
Honestly this is fascinating and always made me want to drive a Semi Truck. It's a little different shifting the gears in a traditional Stickshift Car. But, I've always enjoyed the stickshift and wish it would come back instead of this Automatic. It's easier... But It's like learning how to drive all over again. Thanks for the inspiration.
I passed my cdl and been driving for over 2 years. Problem is I only drove automatic and was thinking of buying my truck now. I really want a manual but I don’t want to spend a ton of money on transmission just to learn it I got bills and a family to take care of lol
I don’t drive the big rigs. But I am looking into putting a fuller in my truck. I haul machine tools and my trans is going out again. It seems easier and cheaper to find a fuller ten as opposed to a fuller 6. Every Eaton fuller from 7 up has synchros but they are not Fully Synchronized boxes. The ten allows you to run around with much lower RPM. Right now, I can do freeway speeds but my RPM is at around 2000 RPM at 60 to 65. I am getting close to the governor kicking in and defueling. Also your MPG begins to suck for what your hauling. Double clutching sounds like a pain but it’s not that bad. Right now, I have to go all the way to the floor to get the Luke to kick out. As the trans gets older, it’s harder to shift. Instead of ramming it home, you try to find the next gear. Even in a fully synchronized box, there is a range the synchros work. If your truck slows down and or your engine RPM drops fast, you can miss the sweet spot and grind. Usually see this in 3rd under load. Also, there is a hole in the ratios between 3rd and fourth. To slow lugging or to fast RPM. The ten speed fills this hole nicely. Yes it’s overkill but if you haul backhoes, milling machines etc on a gooseneck, you get tied of replacing clutches and transmissions. The downside if there is one is that your not going to hole shot that truck out of a red light. You also need to install a compressor as the Eaton splitter is air powered. Once you get used to driving with the tach instead of the speedo, you can float the gears. I love my Cummins dodge but all diesel pickups that have to work for a living are prone to transmission issues. All of them to varying degrees. I wish Eaton would come up with a better solution for us. Driving any truck with an automatic sucks. If you understand your truck and engine, you have better control over what your doing and your MPG. For example, hauling log trailers out on logging roads!!! Also hauling stone block trailers out on logging trails. Semis won’t fit and normal fancy new trucks can get busted real fast.
Always seemed more complicated than that. Thanks for a simple explanation. Time to get a bigger license and I've never run anything standard. This is going to help
The last time I drove a 10 speed the splits were about 34% between every gear, in either range. So if you upshift at 1500 RPM you'll synchronize the engine with the truck speed at about 1000RPM. If you downwshift at 1000 RPM the next gear down will catch at about 1340 RPM. Doesn't matter what gear, this formula works. If you are progressive shifting, then yes the RPM splits get bigger as you rev up the engine more in each gear. But the 34% rule still holds.
I’m a rookie driver so far I’ve offsetting, backing ! I can’t seem to let the clutch and break off without thinking the truck gonna get away from me!! Just started CDL school!
An Eaton Fuller FRO-18210C is a fairly common 10 speed. With ratios = (1st) 12.94, (2nd) 9.29, (3rd) 6.75, (4th) 4.90, (5th) 3.62, (6th) 2.64, (7th) 1.90, (8th) 1.38, (9th) 1.00, (10th) .74. The average % drop of engine rpm with those ratios is 435 rpm between gears. Assuming each gear is held up to and shifted at exactly 1,600 rpm, every next gear would start at: (2nd) 1,149 rpm, (3rd) 1,163 rpm, (4th) 1,161 rpm, (5th) 1,182 rpm, (6th) 1,167 rpm, (7th) 1,152 rpm, (8th) 1,162 rpm, (9th) 1,159 rpm, (10th) 1,184 rpm. There's no "200 rpm drop on low range, and 400 rpm drop on high range." It was designed to give a) a consistent rpm drop so that b) the engine would be able to be kept within it's most effective rpm range.
It’s auto fail across the country. Idaho allowed me to show I know how to double clutch up and down then float, but I had to prove I knew how. Any mechanic will scream if you tell him you speed shift though because regardless of how good you are you’re still shaving your gears
@@maggimadison9253 I am the me mechanic lol. As long as PMs are done properly and on time, floating doesn't do much more than normal wear to the trans. (If the driver doesn't just slam into gears and hope for it to engage)
Check out this video for more shifting tips! ✅ th-cam.com/video/llMV11_YO7U/w-d-xo.html
I'm lost and confused. I think it would be better for me to actually try it physically because I watch this video over ten times and I don't know what the hell you talking about smh
Stupid use the clutch don’t float the gears unless you want a bad tranny
Is there actually a practical reason for the gear stick to be at head height?
Just seems very impractical
@@alg5169 dude its like changing gears in a car!
Do you how i learned to drive a truck.... Louisville 9000 boss said "know how to drive a truck" i said na he pointed at the buttons "park n trailer breaks H 1st 2nd 3rd 4th you'll figure it out good luck see ya at the bottom" he jumped in a kenworth and took off down the hill i had 12km of winding mountain road infront of me
I made it
@@austinsitek7020 na dude you dont even need the cluch to to take off unloaded or down hill
Don't mind me. Just watching shifting videos at 1 am. Not looking to get into the field I just find it fascinating and have a respect for you guys.
For some reason I just saw this, thank you so much!
Keep it in mind, I was an Engineer pre Great recession. All that was hiring in 2010 was trucking, it is the only thing I know of that you can make 500 to 800 just to train. I am now local working 7 to 4. I love driving a truck, I am too lazy to work, too chicken to steal, so I drive a truck.
@@trentallman984 Nice man, I am currently a charter pilot and learning how to drive a truck. I might go all the way and become a tanker driver by this next year.
@@bugnut82 I know from a friend that tanker is hard on your body, every time you stop you get hit in the back, logging is also something to avoid. Refer is a whole lot of waiting. Flatbed if you have to tarp is a young man's job as is food delivery. Dry freight is the easiest, usually quick loading and unloading, you just have to drive. You may be well equipped to drive at night but I was not. Very hard to change your body clock. I am now getting $0.75 per mile and 3600 miles in 8 days.
@@trentallman984 This particular operation isn't too bad on the body, they have some really nice baffled tanks. It's a mon-fri job with an 8-9 hour day, so it's pretty awesome!
20 year trucker here! Great video and to all rookies out there if you get into a situation where you cant pull the shifter out of gear just push the clutch in a bit and it'll pop out of there! Trust me there will be situations like that! Thanks for the video, keep the shiny side up!
Thank you so much and you are definitely right
You can also tap the gas pedal
That’s really good information 50 years of trucking you no what you talking about
Thank you .
Thank Uu
For me it was fear that keep me away. Once I got over that fear and started practicing I realized that I'm just like my Grandfather. I just wish he was here with me Driving together. Them old trucking stories he told me and my brother were awesome!!
For me its pure fear and I dont know why I cant get over it i just have fear i dont know if its my instructor or the pressure of wanting to just get it down i just know the structure of it but cant translate it as easy because of this fear I have. And bless your grandpa god rest his soul.
@@thenormalworldofwes6656 I know this is a old post and I hope you're trucking, but never let fear get in your way. Your instructor was once a rookie too. I'm sure you're not going to do something he has never seen before. People are going to grind gears, struggle to back up, etc... No one is going to get in the truck and just shift perfectly fine. I been driving on and off for 12+ years and I still have my days! Some days I can't back and it looks like my first day! The more space you have is the hardest. It sounds crazy, but it's just how it is. You give me a tight spot with two trucks and I will put it in the middle of both, you give me 3 acres and i'm out there pulling up back and forth LOL
I’m
Here now trying to conquer my fear glad to see I was t alone
Whatever u do, don’t float gears ⚙️ when taking ur CDL road test with the trooper. Instant fail. They need to see u double-clutching. U can do whatever u want after u pass.
I think the only reason they do that is because its more of a pain in the arse to use the clutch, and it makes more people fail on their first test.
Our school instructor is showing us how, along with clutching. If we struggle he has us float a coupleyears, get our mind back into shifting, then we shift some,
@@engineknock5040 haha man im wearing the same shoes ...loved the RR but hated getting treated like shit.. I went to trucking
my school is teaching me how to float
Noob question but why float versus using the clutch?
I started out in the U.S. Air Force back in the 1970's . They sent me to the U.S. Army Corps Of Engineers Heavy Equipment School at Fort Leonardwood Missouri . I learned all kinds of heavy equipment operating there and learned how to drive semi trucks & dump trucks . The old M series military trucks . 5 speed with 4th & 5th reversed in the pattern . Then I went to U.S. Air Force Red Horse unit . They had twin stick Mack's and 5 speed international dump trucks & semi tractors . Years later I was driving trucks with the old RT613 13 speed Road Ranger transmissions and old late 70's Kenworth's with reverse 9 speeds & Detroit's . Went on to the red splitter knob 13 speeds and 8LL transmissions . I retired from driving in 1996 . The good ol' days :-)
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Hi, I'm 42 years old and I've been driving trucks, since I was 18 years and I can't believe I did not know that. Thanks man . I specialty is a super 10 or 13 speed. Believe me, I learned something today. Thanks a million. i can't wait to hit the road in Canada. Good job. 👍
Thank you Neil, I’m sure you are full of knowledge I probably haven’t even heard of yet LOL. That’s precisely why I keep open ears to anyone no matter how long they have been driving. It may not always be the best but closed ears never hear
Make sure that you double clutch in your road test... another note for your road test, most troopers want to see you downshift on approach to a stop as well. Love the video, great information
They want us to float gears up here they don’t want us using the clutch…
@@banqboyzvpbanqrollieb3334 in Texas we can’t 😅
I haven’t driven a stick in 13 yrs. I have a road test next week so I came here for a quick refresher course. I don’t have access to a stick without current employer getting suspicious lol. You’re vid helped tremendously! Thank you
Today was my first day of driving a 10spd CDL class holy cow I just about grinded every gear so much different than my 6spd Cummins specialy the clutch and not pressing it all the way in
You'll get it I promise
How did it go
The most trusted & reliable H D Trucks gearbox easy to learn & easy & fun to drive you were among the elite when you mastered this gearbox with shifting without the clutch And skipping gears on the up shift & down shift and discovering that hidden gear on a 10 speed so you don’t have to drop into low Range when crawling thru heavy slow moving traffic secret is you need to feel for that gear while trying to penetrate that far left wall and put that shifter in your back pocket You have to learn to roll that stick with your finger tips
Can’t wait until this becomes second nature for me and i understand everything, i plan on getting my cdl one year from now wish me luck.
Good luck!
You got it man shifting seems compicated but its not. A lot of times people over think things when shifting..
Good luck to ya, hopefully you'll find a company or truck thats a manual, lot more fun thats for sure, and if you can float em, you know you're a real trucker!!!
You get your cdl bro? I want to go to school if I can get the money.
Did u get it
My second phase coach was for city p/d if you were having trouble and getting lost in the gears he would hold your hand and walk you through it and tell you when to clutch. It worked great. He would also hit you in the shoulder if you didn't look both ways before entering an intersection even if you had a green light.
Lol, I bet that stuck 💪🏻
@@DrivenTrucking It worked though. You could compare the drivers he taught vs the other city coach and his drivers were better at the end of the week.
That’s what matters
You taught me more in 5 minutes than my instructors have taught me in months, and I gave them $2800!
Yeah dude I hear ya because it cost me over $1000 to get my truck licence...
I'm paying 45 hundred and probably learning more off of TH-cam then there hour of classes 2 times a week
All these schools some bullshit I’m seeing. The instructors are just collecting a check and the good schools only use automatics unfortunately..
@@waynepetruccelle4365 that's it? It's gonna cost me $7200
@@latinace1981 hell I just payed $6150 for mine 😂
For those in km/h increment, if you are looking for a gear to jump in, the trick is the following: 10 km/h + 2 = 3rd gear; 20km/h + 2 = 4th gear; 30km/h + 2 = 5th gear, and so on. Basically, the first number of the road speed + 2 will get you a gear to shift in.
Thanks for that one bud good to learn something been driving a super 10 acco with a c series cummins thanks man
It took me some moments to figure it out (for your km/h). I was like " amazing ! "
Dude we're not in Canada, you just threw a wrench in learning this, no one cares about kph
I beg you please do more video I’m just starting and I just can’t believe how I just learn in 15mins what I’ve been trying to understand this entire week of school. Any back tips with this? Downshifting videos?
@@peterbuiltcummins413 That comment in km/h was for international viewers. I’m from Canada, and appreciate it a lot.
The last few seconds are gold, great Job on explaining how to shift a unsynchronised manual transmission, greetings from the Netherlands
Been had my class a cdlsince June of 2006 when I was 22 but I still appreciate videos like this. That's one lengthy shift pole lol. Nice
Thank you, I appreciate it. It’s only a twelve inch extension 😬
King Dj-Slim go for messing up the plastic shift tower. use to be super small stick now this
@@larrypowers8789 lol true
King Dj-Slim he just needs a pole dancer lol
That's what she said 😅
Some things I noticed at the test site, first, adjust your seat, mirrors and steering wheel properly. Second, wear your seatbelt, 3rd always face the inside of the truck with 3 points of contact at all times, getting in and out. I seen instant failures by seasoned veterans at the test site. Number one rule, don't stall the truck, number two rule, don't follow too closely or enter an intersection with heavy opposing traffic as the light will change and you will run a red light. Pull out till your shoulder on your body hits the double yellow, then cut your turn hard, you will never hit a curb this way. Mentally, alway remember WHAT GEAR YOU ARE IN.
KEEP YOUR HEAD MOVING IN THOSE MIRRORS AND CONSTANTLY COMMUNICATING WITH THE EXAMINER.
Don't assume nothing, open your mouth.
Drove 10 speed in 53 foot trailer today.First time tractor - trailer. Got my class B cdl last year. Thought it was going to be the same going from regular 6 speed to class A, just with more gears. Humbled me real quick. I'm honestly a bit nervous but guy I was with said I was picking up on it quick and smooth. My biggest thing is missing gears and not knowing where to shift to when that happens. Hopefully the speed adding helps. I'll try it next time. Thanks!
xAirbournex there no reason to be nervous, everyone is going to miss gears when they start driving. Practice makes perfect. Personally I don’t agree with the adding speed to figure out gears, every single truck will shift a little different. I drive a 13 or 18 speed every day and don’t even think about what I’m doing because i have a feel for the truck and just know when and where to shift.
This has been really helpful. For someone starting school in a week and never driving a truck before. I feel pretty confident now!!
How was class james
Hey thank you! You just put food on my family’s plate! I’m serious. Thank you very much
Awesome.
Now you just have to get more than one plate ;)
You are the first one to tell me what MPH I need to be in the low ranges
👍🏻👊🏻
man trainers are lacking on thir job now days eh?
It's been fifty years or more since i drove a ten speed, went to 13 then 15, back to 13 it had lower ratio for pulling, finally in my first large car an 18 speed, thanks for showing newbies how, pull toy here.
I would love at least a 13 speed, next truck 👍🏻 thanks for sharing
Do u actually use all 18 gears?
its so nice to see a strong youtube presence of truckers bc i'm going into do my cdl training soon and i wanna know as much as possible before hand
Your pointers at the front, I had never heard anywhere else. Thank you
I started my career in a stick but I’ve since upgraded to an automatic. Best decision I’ve made in trucking.
Rusty Nail Downgraded**
@@walkeradrian1989 agreed unless your long haul and only dock twice a weekand never have any snowy or icy weather major downgrade I love my 10 spd
Why all the hate on automatic
@@walkeradrian1989 Automatic is superior in every way when used properly. Espcially in a selectable auto. FUCK manuals in a semi
Seth N. Not going to lie this is 6 months later and i've been in an automatic around town and such i'll never go back but for out in the bush i still would prefer having a stick in my hand. Just getting used to running the auto in manual and it's pretty awesome!
We had to double clutch at CDL program I went to, It wasn't bad at all...half the time I just faked clutched once got the hang of it. Then I went to a Tanker company and we were taught to skip shift as much as possible(to keep the wave at rear as much as possible), but tanker driving will really make a shifter out of you lol. You either getting hit with the slam constantly or figure out the rhythm needed.
This video helped me pass my test never thought of the divide by 2 for low gears if you can down shift you can catch a missed gear
I’m driving for 20 years now and I have to say this is a fantastic video. It’s important for drivers to understand the clutch brake. I had no idea what it was or that it existed until I was driving about 4 years and mine went out of adjustment! Then it makes sense really quick. Just a side note for the new drivers: when the clutch brake isn’t working you’ll press the clutch all the way down with substantial pressure and it will take a few seconds before it goes into gear.
Thanks for taking the time to help the rookies!
This is brilliant. Thank you so much for this. I've driven 10- speeds but the last few years been driving company autos and I am buying my own truck soon.
Been driving 14 years, learned something. Not gonna say what though, not gonna say.
It was the clutch brake wasn’t it...
It was the addition of the mph to get the gear wasnt it.
I always went by feeling 🤐
I’m trying to learn how to shift even though I already have my CDL
keep on learning
@@judetruckerboy6473 do you drive a manual?
@@datscorpiosheilae2998 I'm only 11 but I can shift a 18 speed no clutch my dad is a truck driver
@@judetruckerboy6473 I want to learn how to drive i just bought a 13 speed
@@datscorpiosheilae2998 cool yeah i can do a 9 10 13 and 18 pefer 18
Thank you for the tip on the clutch. I've been trying to teach myself how to double clutch and I keep on going to the floor with it. I'm definitely going to try this. Where I'm working we've got Eaton 10 speeds so the whole video has given me some ideas to try. Thanks again!
Going to the floor while moving tears the clutch brake out of them
i like the point clutch break discussion
It’s great and all but in Texas you have to double clutch for your CDL driving test.
One of greatest vidoes about shifting! Thank you very much. Sir. Simple words are the best words!
Good video, thanks. I just started my training. Never drove a manual transmission, so thanks for breaking it down in an easy manner, to comprehend.
I love the adding and dividing concept
I love how smooth you shifting the gears brother, thank you and Allaah(GOD) bless you.
NEVER drove standard.Thank you sir!
Good info. Learning how it works helps a ton of people out.
Thank you!
I practice shifting a 10-speed where I work as a wash bay worker but just driving around the yard I can only get up to 6 gear lol
Nice 👍🏻 lol
Penske or Ryder?
dont go higher that 2end gear in the high side my dad drives for a living btw im only 10 ill tell i know my stuff lol!
My shifting instructor gives no pre-trip tips like this. I noticed the difference between high and low today in the RPMs after only one hour (my first) in the truck. Would have been nice had my instructor mentioned what to look for instead of my having to figure it out. Good job! Subbed!
A big concern of mine heading into school next month - especially never having driven a manual of any kind, is remembering what gear I’m in. Good video. I suggest the headset mic during rolling commentary. 👍🏻
You’ll be good bro 👍🏻
Learn your pattern
It's on great shifter or close to it
Know the pattern like the back of your hand
I never drove a manual car or truck except for tractors and stuff like that. But i was rolling after the first hour. It’s easy. You will be able to tell by your speed and rpms. After awhile you won’t even think about it
Explaining the clutch brake was super useful to me. Thx
I'm working on my Class 1 License to drive one of those old Pacific Off Highway trucks. They all run that Allison Automatic, but I still need to learn for *other* jobs.
Wow....super informative for a non-trucker like me. Thanks for making this video!!
Good stuff....looks like you were shifting rather smoothly...that’s the way I like to do it, too. You explained it well. Keep on trucking! Porter Dude of Ohio.
Thanks!
Hope there’s a downshift video
Thanks mate you make that simple that i got much better idea than hours of video that i watched in 3 hours. Thanks keep it up 👍🏽
Best explanation of which gear you should be in by adding and dividing the numbers.
First day driving was yesterday I did terrible I hope I can get a better understanding by the end of the week
I work random jobs and every truck I've been in had zero clutch break. I tend to just make a full stop in gear with the clutch in to avoid the dreaded grind of coming out of neutral to find a gear. I'm still a newbie and tend to snub gears quite a bit from not paying enough attention to the RPMs and rushing my shifts and having to wait for the RPM to drop before it goes in. Getting better every day though :)
Helpful tips
My experience : i started with a coach on the first day i rode with him i was behind the wheel, he had covered the rpms with a sticky note ! When i asked he said forget about it for the whole time u r riding with me and listen to the engine sound, i missed and ground gears the first day 😬
Now i don't even look on my rpms and enjoy driving manual transmission
It's a helpful tip i thought i could share the love 😚
Nice, I just came here real quick to remember when to shift. I've been like almost a year away from driving a truck.
I leave for training this Sunday and this video made me confident in switching the gears..💯👍😁THANKS ALOT!!! YOU EXPLAINED EVERYTHING TO THE T!! AND DEMISTATION WAS ON POINT!!!!!!!!!!!
Good training video for new drivers. I've done 9, 10, 13, 18, super 10, and old school twin stick while messing around with an old kw. Only time I touch the clutch is to start off from a stop and stop.
Thank you for vid.. right on tune!! Every well explained. I wish some body showed me this when I was starting out.. I drive a 13 speed long nose pet 3 axle dump truck and the way you explained this was right on the only difference the 13 is is on the high gears you split each gear but that's for big boys!!!
Yepper, thank you. My next truck will definitely be a 13 or 18
want them to put me in a 24 spicer wont happen but i sur will show them i WILL be a good trucker when i get 18 yr old
First time I ever heard an explanation for low range. Divide speed by two. I'll try that.
Good video! Great info on the clutch brake. Do NOT push the pedal to the floor with the truck moving or it will severely damage the clutch brake. It's a clutch brake, not a truck brake!
I might start doing farm trucking next year. You don't need a CDL because it's farm plated. I drive F550s with long trailers and big loads all the time, and occasionally a dump truck short distances, hopefully I can learn the semi fast enough to he useful
I just learned how to float by ear, now by number from you , currently on the side of the road though my Mack won’t come out of 9th gear even with the shifter in neutral 😅
What happened?
As a new driver this video was helpful thank you 🙏
Just started double clutching today! It's the gears and their places that I need to understand with out having to look one hour later I was getting the hang of it though
Never heard a better explanation than this, that helps a lot brother!!
Did my test with an 18spd and had to use all high and low properly. Couldn’t keep it in high. 10 is way to easy lol
Yikes lol, Most guys don’t even use all 18, heck, most guys don’t even use all 10 LOL
Drive a 18 speed like a 13 unless you’re starting on a hill.
Most of us only split hi range. Pro tip, if your shift range is 400 rpm on the hi range, the split is half that, so 200 rpm.
@@DrivenTrucking lol dude ur great
Lol. Yeah ok we believe you. They made you split every gear my ass. Your just trying to sound cool. Gtfo
I loved it! I’m preparing myself for my CDL and this was vert helpful!
I'm ready to start my journey as a trucker.....I love to drive....
I already know how to double clutch smoothly, up shift and down shifts, now I want to learn and I’m in the process of learning how to float, give my left knee a break.
I’ve been contemplating a floating video
With your foot on the gas, move the shifter to the next gear and apply pressure. Take your foot off the gas and shift into the gear. Give it gas and repeat. If u have trouble with grinding, just tap the gas pedal to get into the gear.
Just learn to I-shift ! 😄
Having driven standard transmission 5 tons, I determine when to shift by sound. When engine reaches max rpm for that gear, sound tells you it is time to shift backing down rpm for upshift. or increase rpm for down shift. It slips into gear with gentle pressure, or out of gear. Doing it right doesn't require the clutch, BUT there is DANGER TO DAMAGE THE TRANSMISSION, so it not officially allowed.
Why am I watching this I already have my cdl
Same
Guilty
Cuz yall bored 😂
Same here 🤣
BATMAN TH-cam wormhole 🤖
On my CDL test the guy made me use the clutch every single shift...up or down. If I floated gears (how I learned to drive) he took points off. Ended up passing but he bitched the whole time about how I was “destroying the truck” by floating gears (keep in mind I didn’t grind once). Also it was MY truck 😂
Did you double clutch?
@@thedukeofmulberry yes, ended up having to after he told me he’d mark each “improper shift” as an error. I guess at least he let me know before I wound up failing over something so dumb. he could have just let me go on until I failed, I was shifting smoothly and didn’t see anything wrong with how I drove. You are allowed 28 errors or points before you fail, I passed with 21, at least 8 of which were for not using the clutch to shift. Since I also wasn’t allowed to skip gears after starting off I managed to rack up those 8 points pretty quick, we took a loop through a town, 2 lane road and finally interstate so I probably shifted close to 100 times in the test.
I would
Of been so annoyed. Knowing me….. it would be so hard for me to not say “ can you please shut the fuck up ? “ it’s my truck……..
@@bilbobaggins1934 If you can’t float properly and know the shift points yes can damage it. But it’s perfectly fine if you do smooth as butter. I float all the time, except for under a heavy load pulling hills.
@@bilbobaggins1934 Also as long as everything is done right and correctly there is ZERO advantage to double clutching except for a worn out leg and wearing out a clutch brake prematurely
Shifting without clutch!!! Awesome stuff there! Very vital tip there! Gotta try it out 💥💣💯
I learned from my dad on shifting gears and once you take off I didn't use clutch pedal anymore only to stop but good video for those learning
Thank you for sharing it. I am interested in every little detail to learn on my new path. An Amazing World in the Trucking Industry.
Same here. The road is calling me😂
This is awesome stuff....keep it up and remember stay driven!
I go to Truck driving school next month this is extremely helpful
going for my cdl A test tommarow just have the on road portion. hopefully ill pass
You got this brotha no problem
Did u pass?
@@topshotjay4331 yes i did! only took me 3 trys in total. 1st try i completed the airbrake and manuvers but ran out of the time. 2nd time i failed the on road due to coasting to a stop and passed the 3rd time
dan staszko Congrats!! who you driving with now?
Thanks for making this. My test is in 2 days I have one more 3 hour class tomorrow. I grinded a lot of gears today especially in the 3rd to 4th range. Kind of got frustrated with myself.
It’s OK to grind, you’re learning. Just try and stay collected and get it back in gear 👍🏻
@@DrivenTrucking yes sir I find that on a 10 speed 6th gear seems to be a safe spot that’s always easy to get into. Thanks again for responding man very cool!!!!
@@JimmyR83 how did your test go?
@@dvdpz89 hey I passed man been driving for a local company in Texas 👍🏻
@@JimmyR83 that’s awesome. Congrats! Been thinking about trying something new. There’s a high demand for truckers right now especially in Los Angeles.
Great Presentation on shifting gears
seems like a good teacher!
Dam bro ive been watching videos on this all day.But i gotta say u made it alot easier to understand.PROPS!
Thanks 👍🏻
Good video!
My CDL test wasn't with that kind of transmission haha but i did ok enough to pass. It was i believe an 8 speed.....? over and up, reverse, over and down 8th. so no range selector and had to put the clutch all the way to the floor to shift. So just like a car i guess. The instructor helped me through it and i made it :D
Had my CDL class A since April 2020 and still watching haha. Doesn't hurt to learn more! :D
Good video. First time I heard the math for the 10 speed.
Honestly this is fascinating and always made me want to drive a Semi Truck. It's a little different shifting the gears in a traditional Stickshift Car. But, I've always enjoyed the stickshift and wish it would come back instead of this Automatic. It's easier... But It's like learning how to drive all over again. Thanks for the inspiration.
I passed my cdl and been driving for over 2 years. Problem is I only drove automatic and was thinking of buying my truck now. I really want a manual but I don’t want to spend a ton of money on transmission just to learn it I got bills and a family to take care of lol
Cool ..... smooth as butter
😎
I don’t drive the big rigs. But I am looking into putting a fuller in my truck. I haul machine tools and my trans is going out again. It seems easier and cheaper to find a fuller ten as opposed to a fuller 6. Every Eaton fuller from 7 up has synchros but they are not Fully Synchronized boxes. The ten allows you to run around with much lower RPM. Right now, I can do freeway speeds but my RPM is at around 2000 RPM at 60 to 65. I am getting close to the governor kicking in and defueling. Also your MPG begins to suck for what your hauling.
Double clutching sounds like a pain but it’s not that bad. Right now, I have to go all the way to the floor to get the Luke to kick out. As the trans gets older, it’s harder to shift. Instead of ramming it home, you try to find the next gear. Even in a fully synchronized box, there is a range the synchros work. If your truck slows down and or your engine RPM drops fast, you can miss the sweet spot and grind. Usually see this in 3rd under load. Also, there is a hole in the ratios between 3rd and fourth. To slow lugging or to fast RPM. The ten speed fills this hole nicely.
Yes it’s overkill but if you haul backhoes, milling machines etc on a gooseneck, you get tied of replacing clutches and transmissions. The downside if there is one is that your not going to hole shot that truck out of a red light. You also need to install a compressor as the Eaton splitter is air powered.
Once you get used to driving with the tach instead of the speedo, you can float the gears. I love my Cummins dodge but all diesel pickups that have to work for a living are prone to transmission issues. All of them to varying degrees. I wish Eaton would come up with a better solution for us. Driving any truck with an automatic sucks. If you understand your truck and engine, you have better control over what your doing and your MPG. For example, hauling log trailers out on logging roads!!! Also hauling stone block trailers out on logging trails. Semis won’t fit and normal fancy new trucks can get busted real fast.
Always seemed more complicated than that. Thanks for a simple explanation. Time to get a bigger license and I've never run anything standard. This is going to help
That was AWESOME!! Best explanations of shifting with math.. Great for down shifting as well.. Thank you 😊
The last time I drove a 10 speed the splits were about 34% between every gear, in either range. So if you upshift at 1500 RPM you'll synchronize the engine with the truck speed at about 1000RPM. If you downwshift at 1000 RPM the next gear down will catch at about 1340 RPM. Doesn't matter what gear, this formula works.
If you are progressive shifting, then yes the RPM splits get bigger as you rev up the engine more in each gear. But the 34% rule still holds.
I taught myself how to float shift due to having bad knees. I always told trainees to "treat her like a lady" when shifting.
Absolutely
yesssssir
Not a 3am last call ....just grind the hell out of it and don't take it back home
Damn! That shifter stick looks like a machete 😂😂
Lol 😂
I’m a rookie driver so far I’ve offsetting, backing ! I can’t seem to let the clutch and break off without thinking the truck gonna get away from me!! Just started CDL school!
Quick question, where you nervous? How's it like? The reason I'm asking you is because I'm thinking about becoming a trucker....
Nicely explained my friend, I could understand everything, keep it up!!... You´ve got a new subscriber!!
Just got my cdl preciate the video’s
I passed the cdl just fine in a manual. It was when I went into real world hauling weight that was the problem.
An Eaton Fuller FRO-18210C is a fairly common 10 speed. With ratios = (1st) 12.94, (2nd) 9.29, (3rd) 6.75, (4th) 4.90, (5th) 3.62, (6th) 2.64, (7th) 1.90, (8th) 1.38, (9th) 1.00, (10th) .74. The average % drop of engine rpm with those ratios is 435 rpm between gears. Assuming each gear is held up to and shifted at exactly 1,600 rpm, every next gear would start at: (2nd) 1,149 rpm, (3rd) 1,163 rpm, (4th) 1,161 rpm, (5th) 1,182 rpm, (6th) 1,167 rpm, (7th) 1,152 rpm, (8th) 1,162 rpm, (9th) 1,159 rpm, (10th) 1,184 rpm. There's no "200 rpm drop on low range, and 400 rpm drop on high range." It was designed to give a) a consistent rpm drop so that b) the engine would be able to be kept within it's most effective rpm range.
Taking my CDL test next week. Still practicing double clutching sucks
Not to sure if it's region based, but here in NY, floating gears is an auto fail.
Same in Kentucky... auto-fail...
It’s auto fail across the country. Idaho allowed me to show I know how to double clutch up and down then float, but I had to prove I knew how. Any mechanic will scream if you tell him you speed shift though because regardless of how good you are you’re still shaving your gears
@@maggimadison9253 I am the me mechanic lol. As long as PMs are done properly and on time, floating doesn't do much more than normal wear to the trans. (If the driver doesn't just slam into gears and hope for it to engage)