Yeah and putting the fast cars in the back made overtaking a lot hard, not so easy to go through the field when you have to go up against equally matched cars
@@uap24 it wasn't something super amazing and absolutely out of the ordinary. mick led the race pretty easily from the 4th corner until very late in the race and then he got overtaken. We're getting that sorta stuff this season in real life. reverse grids aren't a net plus if you ask me.
This type of inverted grid sprint race is certainly more interesting because in some way it would allow to assign points even to drivers who usually struggle to be in the top 10. However I believe that in the rear no one would risk overtaking with the rule of parc fermé (same reason why even the current sprint race does not create all the spectacle that was expected). I am personally convinced that if the parc fermé rule between sprint race and Sunday race will be abolished, the riders would be willing to take higher risks. Then, if we want to make the sprint race more imaginative, we could do it with the grid reversed, and with the order of arrival of the top ten who can gain positions on the Sunday starting grid depending on how they qualified on Friday's session. For example: in this video Alonso started 11th (so probably he was 9th in Qualifying). At the end of the sprint race he finished 8th; being in the top ten he gained two positions (start counting from the 10th), so in Sunday's race he would start 7th Mick Schumacher instead started and finished 2nd so no positions gained (yes I know it is probably a bit complicated 🥴😅)
I would love Sprint Races with reverse grid. At least it would be something very different and entertaining. I know some drivers doesn't like this but maybe they will add this feature if the sprint doesn't affect the race grid. Race grid needs to be set by the real qualifying on Friday
Exactly this. We'd get battles all race with the fast cars all having to pick off the "slow cars" while the laps tick away quickly. As the race goes on, the gap at the front would get bigger and bigger, we'd end up with some serious chasing after the field spreads out a bit
@@p_nilly but there's no incentive to fight. 3 points isn't worth racing too hard for, and there's no way cars starting at the back will be able to make their way into the top 3 in just a 25% race. And if you award more points for the sprint, then you're actually rewarding drivers for screwing up during qualifying because they'll start high up and have good chances for top 5 places. It wouldn't be fair to the midfield cars either, if you qualify tenth and just start tenth with only faster cars behind you then there's pretty much no chance of points, whereas starting pole or second from 19-20th in qualifying gives you a ~20 second advantage over the actually quick cars that are stuck behind the midfield.
@@bruhmoment2088 If they had a sprint race (like in this video) where the grid is just the championship order reversed, then it makes more sense. Qualifying will still set the grid for the Sunday race, while the sprint on a Saturday would have points on offer for maybe the top 8? This removes the incentive to screw up in qualifying, as you won't get a better grid slot for the sprint anyway, while giving the drivers in the slowest cars a chance to score points. If the end result of the sprint didn't set the Sunday grid, there would be many more risks being taken as there would actually be something worth fighting for
This gave me an idea of how to do sprint weekends: Friday, you do qualifying as it is now, maybe give a point to fastest overall. For the sprint, it’s reverse grid from Friday ie Friday you’re fastest, you start last in the sprint. For the sprint, 5 points for first, 3 for second, and 1 for third, to give back marker teams a chance at some points. For the race Sunday, you ignore the sprint and use results from Friday so if you’re fifth Friday, you start fifth Sunday.
But then the top teams at the back just wouldn't race because they don't have a chance for points and don't want to wear out their engines. You also punish the worse teams that manage great qualifying sessions and the midfield teams that don't have the pace to overtake. With this idea, Latifi would probably score more points than Russel, and I don't think that's fair. The current format is honestly the best way to do sprints, where drivers need to decide whether to risk crashing or hold position. Any reverse grid shenanigans would backfire completely.
You can do this in F1 2006 championship edition game as well on the PS3 I did this in Indianapolis and Yuji Ide was on pole but finished 3rd behind Mark Webber’s Williams and Jenson Button’s Honda.
Ahora mismo es para que Gunther Steiner coja y eche a Nikita Mazepin del equipo Mis pilotos del día son: Antonio Giovinazzi,Mick Schumacher y George Russell Mención de honor: Los dos Aston Martin Colleja de oro (y bien merecida): Nikita Mazepin
The decision whether they will use reverse grid or not should be announced after the first two quali's so that no one has an idea and the teams would still likely to push.
@@Mitsos1311 i appreciate it. It's just that at some moments he doesn't have to be that excited. I do really like your videos though. I'm sure he loves what he's doing and i agree that he is very passionate and he does make it exciting. It's just a little thing and i overreacted a bit in my previous comment.
@@Mitsos1311 wouldn't the DRS train effect also come in to play? If the guy at the front of the snake can't get by the slow car, everyone ends up stuck unless someone goes for a big dive bomb
Hey it's not that bad idea. There could be qualifying on Saturday morning and sprint race with reversed grid in the evening but Sunday race with normal positions from qualifying
I really hope RSS have different engine power to match the real grid. To see how different better car make the different in SIM. And hey can you make the framerate cinematic to match the real footage, i think it will look great hahaha.
Let's do this, but the sprint is totally separate from the GP. This would be a separate race with points for the podium, not a qualifying session. Lineup set by either reversing the results of qualifying or reverse championship order.
The AI of the other Interlagos tracks wasn’t as good, very crash prone. For this video I wanted to provide better racing rather than better track aesthetics. Wish I could have done both though
Schumi absolutely fly but can't defend Giovinazzi unlucky but still his first podium in F1 Giovinazzi first win awesome maybe they should do it, mazepin vs all 🤩🤩🤩🤩
This seems easily exploitable. It basically becomes a race of who can go across the circuit the most slowly tbh. Novel idea, for sure, but easily exploitable.
I love how putting slow cars front just solved all the entertainment problems of F1.
The battle at the front was legit
Yeah and putting the fast cars in the back made overtaking a lot hard, not so easy to go through the field when you have to go up against equally matched cars
@@uap24 it wasn't something super amazing and absolutely out of the ordinary. mick led the race pretty easily from the 4th corner until very late in the race and then he got overtaken. We're getting that sorta stuff this season in real life. reverse grids aren't a net plus if you ask me.
And that’s the problem.
@@Mitsos1311 mate Lewis should have been 10th or 1st
Finally. A Schumacher on the podium.
Since Europe 2012
Spoiler alert
This type of inverted grid sprint race is certainly more interesting because in some way it would allow to assign points even to drivers who usually struggle to be in the top 10. However I believe that in the rear no one would risk overtaking with the rule of parc fermé (same reason why even the current sprint race does not create all the spectacle that was expected).
I am personally convinced that if the parc fermé rule between sprint race and Sunday race will be abolished, the riders would be willing to take higher risks.
Then, if we want to make the sprint race more imaginative, we could do it with the grid reversed, and with the order of arrival of the top ten who can gain positions on the Sunday starting grid depending on how they qualified on Friday's session.
For example: in this video Alonso started 11th (so probably he was 9th in Qualifying).
At the end of the sprint race he finished 8th; being in the top ten he gained two positions (start counting from the 10th), so in Sunday's race he would start 7th
Mick Schumacher instead started and finished 2nd so no positions gained
(yes I know it is probably a bit complicated 🥴😅)
Not really complicated. And I agree. Parc Ferme is currently ruining sprint races. Remove it, and we might have a show
Get rid of all Parc Fremé or gearbox/engine regulations, like back in the early days. Would make both qualifying and races more interesting.
Finally Schumacher can follow in his father's footsteps.
And even when starting pole, Mazepin still can't get any points lol.
I would love Sprint Races with reverse grid. At least it would be something very different and entertaining. I know some drivers doesn't like this but maybe they will add this feature if the sprint doesn't affect the race grid. Race grid needs to be set by the real qualifying on Friday
Exactly this. We'd get battles all race with the fast cars all having to pick off the "slow cars" while the laps tick away quickly. As the race goes on, the gap at the front would get bigger and bigger, we'd end up with some serious chasing after the field spreads out a bit
@@p_nilly but there's no incentive to fight. 3 points isn't worth racing too hard for, and there's no way cars starting at the back will be able to make their way into the top 3 in just a 25% race. And if you award more points for the sprint, then you're actually rewarding drivers for screwing up during qualifying because they'll start high up and have good chances for top 5 places. It wouldn't be fair to the midfield cars either, if you qualify tenth and just start tenth with only faster cars behind you then there's pretty much no chance of points, whereas starting pole or second from 19-20th in qualifying gives you a ~20 second advantage over the actually quick cars that are stuck behind the midfield.
@@bruhmoment2088 If they had a sprint race (like in this video) where the grid is just the championship order reversed, then it makes more sense. Qualifying will still set the grid for the Sunday race, while the sprint on a Saturday would have points on offer for maybe the top 8? This removes the incentive to screw up in qualifying, as you won't get a better grid slot for the sprint anyway, while giving the drivers in the slowest cars a chance to score points. If the end result of the sprint didn't set the Sunday grid, there would be many more risks being taken as there would actually be something worth fighting for
It would be nice but again the teams would not push at all because if a driver crashed and damages the car they would need to repair that
@@mogli_f1137 with this reasoning also in the race they won't push as they risk to break the car or maybe they won't push in quali to not risk ahah
Giovinazzi confirmed for alfa romeo 2022 seat after this race😂
Nope, team was sabotaging him for 80% of the season, and he will return only in 2023
today is no, zhou take the seat
Yes, make sprint races reversed grid, but on race day everything goes back to normal😉👍
I love how Haas was so slow that Mick cant defent against Giovinazzi and that Mazespin is so slow that he went from P1 to P15
Fantastically edited video and excellent commentary! Well done, buddy!
The fact that Mazepin still be able finish ahead of Hamilton in this race is incredible
I really like the idea of reverse grid, but I just don't know it suits in reality.
There's one thing you didn't account for in this video: Hamilton having a car that's suddenly 50% faster than everyone else.
The “Go go go go” reminds me of Murray Walker
WE NEED BRANDS HATCH FOR ROUND 9
yes!
I agree
Agree
Agreed
It’s not grade 1 sadly
"Even if we put a rocketship we will still be P11
I know this was Assetto Corsa but your voice really had me on the edge of my seat waiting to see what happened. Very good job!
George Morgan is a phenomenal commentator, make sure to check out his twitter to see more of his work!
I initially read "what if sprint cars".
Those damn scary shopping carts with V8s...
0:03 STOP THE COUNT
Μπράβο που έκανες αυτό το βίντεο, έτσι καταλάβαμε πόσο ανόητο είναι το αντίστροφο πλέγμα που σκέφτεται η F1.
"It's lights out and away we go" is the best start to races, Period.
Sorry, but Murray Walker's call was better than anyone else's.
I would like to respectfully disagree with you.
This gave me an idea of how to do sprint weekends:
Friday, you do qualifying as it is now, maybe give a point to fastest overall. For the sprint, it’s reverse grid from Friday ie Friday you’re fastest, you start last in the sprint. For the sprint, 5 points for first, 3 for second, and 1 for third, to give back marker teams a chance at some points. For the race Sunday, you ignore the sprint and use results from Friday so if you’re fifth Friday, you start fifth Sunday.
But then the top teams at the back just wouldn't race because they don't have a chance for points and don't want to wear out their engines. You also punish the worse teams that manage great qualifying sessions and the midfield teams that don't have the pace to overtake. With this idea, Latifi would probably score more points than Russel, and I don't think that's fair. The current format is honestly the best way to do sprints, where drivers need to decide whether to risk crashing or hold position. Any reverse grid shenanigans would backfire completely.
@@bruhmoment2088 it is fair because who raced better in the sprint. Latifi or Russel
Really enjoyed the commentary!
Round 9 should be the Indy 500 except F1
2005 us gp flashbacks lol
Thats what i thought
In 1950-1960 Indy 500 is part of F1 with points counted towards the Championship.
Great idea and great video mate
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it my friend
You can do this in F1 2006 championship edition game as well on the PS3
I did this in Indianapolis and Yuji Ide was on pole but finished 3rd behind Mark Webber’s Williams and Jenson Button’s Honda.
Ahora mismo es para que Gunther Steiner coja y eche a Nikita Mazepin del equipo
Mis pilotos del día son:
Antonio Giovinazzi,Mick Schumacher y George Russell
Mención de honor:
Los dos Aston Martin
Colleja de oro (y bien merecida):
Nikita Mazepin
I'd say if you eliminate quali then do the sprint race at 50% distance with champ order reversed
what will mazepin do hes p21 and kubica p20
How did i miss this damn it this was really good
I’m glad you liked it!
I loved the commentary
Mitsos and Crofty would be such a hype commentator duo
Yeah, you're not dreaming, he really said " Mazepin in pole "
1:08 And it's pedal to the metal go go go go go go go!!!!!!!!
With the normal or reverse grids, Mazepin always will be out of the points zone lol
Would interesting to see reverse grid in real life
The fact Is that im italian and i love that Giovinazzi Wins 🤩 if that battle would be in all reversed races then idk what ti expect
Me imagino a todos en qualy intentando ir lo más lento posible XD
Lewis and Max may both start at the back now lol
This would fix all f1’s problems with racing
Everyone can just skip Quali to line up first
nah, this would be good because in sprint races there are not that many points up for grabs, teams will still want to qualify well for the main race
not if quali gave points
@@3DWorldMan nah only position it should give is pole position
@@franciscoferreira6672 Chaos will reign
The decision whether they will use reverse grid or not should be announced after the first two quali's so that no one has an idea and the teams would still likely to push.
You don’t know how happy it makes me to see Gio win an F1 event 🥲
This is what happens when kimi has the drink
Mick can't catch a break
Maaaaan, If that was you doing the commentary, very nice work :D
That’s George Morgan, he’s an amazing commentator!
Imagine... reverse grid in Monaco...
I just cannot imagine Mazespin on pole.
Why is the commentator so enthusiastic about everything. He's literally screaming at an Alfa Romeo overtaking an Haas. It bothers me tbh
Because that his style of commentating, he is very passionate and brings a lot of excitement to the video
@@Mitsos1311 i appreciate it. It's just that at some moments he doesn't have to be that excited. I do really like your videos though. I'm sure he loves what he's doing and i agree that he is very passionate and he does make it exciting. It's just a little thing and i overreacted a bit in my previous comment.
Assurdo che non ci sia stata la rimonta dei top
In an alternative universe: What if F1 used a reverse grid?
*Normal F1 grid*
Hamilton: challenge accepted 😈
Haas on point?!?!? Legendary event
we need hanoi for fantasy championship
Disappointed with how far the ‘top 4’ could get up the grid
A lot harder to overtake the grid when you need to overtake cars that are equally matched
@@Mitsos1311 wouldn't the DRS train effect also come in to play? If the guy at the front of the snake can't get by the slow car, everyone ends up stuck unless someone goes for a big dive bomb
GIovinazzi is the first Italian To win a Race Since Fisichella in Malaysian grand prix 2006 🇮🇹🇮🇹🔥🔥
GRANDE GIOVIIIII
Hey it's not that bad idea. There could be qualifying on Saturday morning and sprint race with reversed grid in the evening but Sunday race with normal positions from qualifying
I really hope RSS have different engine power to match the real grid. To see how different better car make the different in SIM. And hey can you make the framerate cinematic to match the real footage, i think it will look great hahaha.
It would be amazing
It's a dream to see Antonio win🇮🇹❤
How did you made that TV Tower Graphic? Could you make a tutorial video, please?
Tower graphic was made by Lom1138, you can find graphics on his discord server but the TV tower graphic has not been publicly released yet though
@@Mitsos1311 Yes, I have been to his discord but sadly, there is no Tower graphic. How did you get it?
Why this sound better than Codemasters F1
That's so nice!
Thanks!
Round 9 Mount panorama
sprint races would be way better if they just took the quali order from friday and reversed it.
Wouldnt work. Everyone would qualify as slow as possible then
friday: quali as normal
saturday: reverse grid sprint
sunday: normal race, with the quali order from friday.
You can not find the 2020 skin for interlagos in race department anymore can you post a link?
What if they used reverse track Layouts?
Show this to a Hass team member
i'm curious to entire race with reversed grid
Unreal
Let's do this, but the sprint is totally separate from the GP. This would be a separate race with points for the podium, not a qualifying session. Lineup set by either reversing the results of qualifying or reverse championship order.
Great idea! But why did you use the ... basically ugliest version of Interlagos? There are mods that look way better than the ACU one xD
The AI of the other Interlagos tracks wasn’t as good, very crash prone. For this video I wanted to provide better racing rather than better track aesthetics. Wish I could have done both though
@@Mitsos1311 My experience with vhe_interlagos was actually quite good.
link this track, please?
Not home at the moment but if you search up “ACU Interlagos Assetto Corsa” you can find it. Another version you can find is VHE Interlagos
Mazepin is really bad. But Mick and Seb with a amazing sprint 😍👌
What brilliant idea I'm gutted Schumacher didn't win tho
I was gutted watching it live too haha, at the end of the day a Haas is still a Haas 😪
Al final del video, necesito la tabla de posiciónes del campeonato.
#keepgio 🥲 underrated and always ruined by Alfa stupid strategy
graphic?
hi how do you make ia's so smart and not do nonsense ? otherwise i love your content keep it up love
Wouldn’t qualifying be a turtle race of who can be slower?
It's sprint race so there is one race that gives more points and a second one with less and reversed grid its similar to the F2 sprint race.
For this sprint race I reversed the championship standings, cause I can’t see how a qualifying would work for it
I thought after Lap 4 or 5 there surely would be a red bull or mercedes in the lead. I got it so wrong
You forgot about hamiltons dsq, shouldve been 20-> p1
Can you do this on the f1 game ?
JESUS WINS!!
Please I want to see Kimi on podium
mazepin be like: it is evolving, just backwards
:|
Watch Kimi win in the Alfa this weekend
hey man can i get the link circuit?
It’s ACU Interlagos, not home right now so can’t send the link
Schumi absolutely fly but can't defend Giovinazzi unlucky but still his first podium in F1 Giovinazzi first win awesome maybe they should do it, mazepin vs all 🤩🤩🤩🤩
good video
Glad you enjoyed
So Hamilton would be on pole
No es por nada pero usted tiene mucho talento a la hora de narrar
Yea this would be fair for the slow drivers
George Russell should be in p19.
Mazepin leads into turn one!
This is what happened if f1 trying to make it fair by putting the slowest on the front
So wtf was the max ai doing. He only made 1 place
I would feel like fastest teams would purposely get slower
Please request George Morgan to make the It's Lights Out and Away We Go for the next race!!
Pedal to the metal is his catchphrase, so I think he will keep going with that!
@@Mitsos1311 but I think George can use pedal to the metal for F2 races, crofty's traditional phrase will be perfect to hear on George's voice!
@@RenanMXFNYT don't try to change Morgan's catchphrase
evil F1:
So Alonso 8th. It doesn't change a thing
In real life everyone would've eated haas in 10 laps
This seems easily exploitable. It basically becomes a race of who can go across the circuit the most slowly tbh. Novel idea, for sure, but easily exploitable.