Great interview Fathers! I find it fascinating that the land in Wales is interwoven with an acient presence of Christianity. One day Wales will be restored to Orthodoxy.
And re dragons, saints, and Arthur, there’s a wonderful legend in the life of St Carantoc who crosses the water from South Wales to Somerset following his floating altar, which lands separately from him. King Arthur acquires the altar and tries to use it as a dinner table, but the altar miraculously throws off whatever is placed upon it. Carantoc tracks it down and demands it back; Arthur agrees to release it if Carantoc can deal with a dragon that’s harassing the land. Carantoc approaches the dragon, wraps his stole around the dragon’s neck and leads it peacefully into Arthur’s court. Arthur agrees to let the tamed dragon dwell peacefully in the land, to return the altar, and to grant Carantoc land to establish a community.
Diolch yn fawr iawn, Fathers! To supplement Fr Jacob’s defence of Arthur as part of Christian heritage here, the earliest references to him (eg in Nennius’ chronicle) depict him as leading Christian Romano-British resistance to the invading Saxon pagans who sacked and burned their way across the island as the empire collapsed. At the battle of Badon he bears the cross on his shoulder (or shield) while his army successfully defeats the Saxon pagans. He also regularly appears in saints lives, often rewarding them with monastic land grants after the saints lead him to greater repentance or deliver the land from dragon trouble. His court is often at Caerleon, sacred to the British protomartyrs, and among his traditional legendary equipment is a shield bearing the image of the Theotokos that protects him in battle. This comes from a layer of tradition earlier than the grail romances and represents the memory of how the Christianity and language of the Britons survived in the face of terrible onslaughts. So, we can also rightly include Arthur and his companions in the mythical/mystical sacred memory of Wales!
This was fascinating: I look forward to more. Re. The Ddraig Goch: if anyone knows of any authentic documents explaining its history, I would love to know. Meantime, I offer explanations that I have been given in the past all with the claim that it is the oldest national banner in the world. 1. Its colours are of the earth, with fire and cloud. 2. It depicts earth and fire, with the cloud being moisture and air. (The four elements required by metalworkers). 3. The earth and sky, with the dragon comprising the redeemed creatures of the world, I.e., the features of burrowing, crawling, walking and flying. It does also appear to me that there are fish scales depicted.
I’m interested to know what exactly Fr. Siemens is almost certain about with regard to Welsh Christianity looking like Eastern monastic Christianity. I’ve heard and written about the “England was Orthodox” ideas, but the exteriors always point westward, never mind the normal East-West parallels (rood screen etc). I grant that spiritually they were more Eastern, but we’d only call it Eastern today in retrospect, whereas then it was simply Christian. I’m afraid we run a risk that we don’t yet understand by not trying to express pre-schism Western Christianity with its rites. If we neglect the rites, evangelization there could be end up being dissonant. And as you said at around 52:20, Christianity is in bad shape in the UK. I’ve heard arguments such as “restoring the Western rites is inorganic.” Is it really an inorganic restoration if hundreds of saints who are alive in Christ mystically witnessed Calvary that way? Who knew Christ through their innumerable idiosyncrasies colliding with Western liturgical elements? I think you’d mostly agree Fr. Damick (seeing as you’re Antiochian), but I’m unsettled by how little talk there is about this. PS, Fr. Siemens was great. You two have good synergy. Would life to see more of him
Hey - I’m from North Wales and I’m enquiring into Orthodoxy now. Father, Do you have any videos on what the Apostle means in 1 Corinthians 15 when speaking about the death, burial and resurrection being “This Gospel that we are saved by” in light of Orthodoxy I’m searching, and I’ve grown to Love the Orthodox Church
@@frandrewstephendamick Thank you Father Yes my best friend goes to the Church when he’s home, and speaks very highly of Tad Deinol I live in Wrexham, so my closest parish Church is St Barbara’s in Chester, just over the border so I have attended there. Many thanks
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My family was just baptized in the Orthodox Church on July 27th. St. Melangell is my daughter’s patron saint. ☦️
Great interview Fathers! I find it fascinating that the land in Wales is interwoven with an acient presence of Christianity. One day Wales will be restored to Orthodoxy.
This was so enjoyable. Fascinating!
And re dragons, saints, and Arthur, there’s a wonderful legend in the life of St Carantoc who crosses the water from South Wales to Somerset following his floating altar, which lands separately from him. King Arthur acquires the altar and tries to use it as a dinner table, but the altar miraculously throws off whatever is placed upon it. Carantoc tracks it down and demands it back; Arthur agrees to release it if Carantoc can deal with a dragon that’s harassing the land. Carantoc approaches the dragon, wraps his stole around the dragon’s neck and leads it peacefully into Arthur’s court. Arthur agrees to let the tamed dragon dwell peacefully in the land, to return the altar, and to grant Carantoc land to establish a community.
When I was growing up I was told St. Paul landed at Llantwit Major on one of his missionary journeys.
Great fan of Clannad here! Stunning music. They did their final tour last year.
Diolch yn fawr iawn, Fathers! To supplement Fr Jacob’s defence of Arthur as part of Christian heritage here, the earliest references to him (eg in Nennius’ chronicle) depict him as leading Christian Romano-British resistance to the invading Saxon pagans who sacked and burned their way across the island as the empire collapsed. At the battle of Badon he bears the cross on his shoulder (or shield) while his army successfully defeats the Saxon pagans. He also regularly appears in saints lives, often rewarding them with monastic land grants after the saints lead him to greater repentance or deliver the land from dragon trouble. His court is often at Caerleon, sacred to the British protomartyrs, and among his traditional legendary equipment is a shield bearing the image of the Theotokos that protects him in battle. This comes from a layer of tradition earlier than the grail romances and represents the memory of how the Christianity and language of the Britons survived in the face of terrible onslaughts. So, we can also rightly include Arthur and his companions in the mythical/mystical sacred memory of Wales!
Patrick was born near me in the Swansea Valley before being captured and taken away to Ireland. So Patrick is in fact Welsh
This was fascinating: I look forward to more.
Re. The Ddraig Goch: if anyone knows of any authentic documents explaining its history, I would love to know. Meantime, I offer explanations that I have been given in the past all with the claim that it is the oldest national banner in the world.
1. Its colours are of the earth, with fire and cloud.
2. It depicts earth and fire, with the cloud being moisture and air. (The four elements required by metalworkers).
3. The earth and sky, with the dragon comprising the redeemed creatures of the world, I.e., the features of burrowing, crawling, walking and flying. It does also appear to me that there are fish scales depicted.
I’m interested to know what exactly Fr. Siemens is almost certain about with regard to Welsh Christianity looking like Eastern monastic Christianity. I’ve heard and written about the “England was Orthodox” ideas, but the exteriors always point westward, never mind the normal East-West parallels (rood screen etc). I grant that spiritually they were more Eastern, but we’d only call it Eastern today in retrospect, whereas then it was simply Christian.
I’m afraid we run a risk that we don’t yet understand by not trying to express pre-schism Western Christianity with its rites. If we neglect the rites, evangelization there could be end up being dissonant. And as you said at around 52:20, Christianity is in bad shape in the UK.
I’ve heard arguments such as “restoring the Western rites is inorganic.” Is it really an inorganic restoration if hundreds of saints who are alive in Christ mystically witnessed Calvary that way? Who knew Christ through their innumerable idiosyncrasies colliding with Western liturgical elements?
I think you’d mostly agree Fr. Damick (seeing as you’re Antiochian), but I’m unsettled by how little talk there is about this.
PS, Fr. Siemens was great. You two have good synergy. Would life to see more of him
Id love to talk with you about just everything that y'all have talked about. ☦️
Love this . Does anyone know of the monastic who built the chapel on the gwyrd mountain above Pontardawe?
Hey - I’m from North Wales and I’m enquiring into Orthodoxy now.
Father, Do you have any videos on what the Apostle means in 1 Corinthians 15 when speaking about the death, burial and resurrection being “This Gospel that we are saved by” in light of Orthodoxy
I’m searching, and I’ve grown to Love the Orthodox Church
My best suggestion is to listen to the relevant portions of the "Whole Counsel of God" podcast.
Be sure to visit Tad Deiniol in Blaenau Ffestiniog!
@@frandrewstephendamick Thank you Father
Yes my best friend goes to the Church when he’s home, and speaks very highly of Tad Deinol
I live in Wrexham, so my closest parish Church is St Barbara’s in Chester, just over the border so I have attended there.
Many thanks
I'm from Wrexham also, i'm also interested in orthodoxy and have been considering attending St Barbara in Chester. How are you finding it so far?
@@rewilliams7 The Church is great.
The Priest Father John is a great man of God, and an amazing guy.
Definitely give there a visit
@Strengtharchive80 Thank you, i'll make sure to attend.
Please father do ireland next
It's on my list!
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I've experienced 'Welsh Christianity' and it's as much dead bones in whited sepulchres as the rest.