On my first IFR check ride in the late 80s, the examiner called ATC and specifically requested a DME arc approach. I almost freaked out because I had never done it, although I had a fairly good idea of how to do it - never mind the fact that my IFR instructor sent me off to the check ride never having done an arc. As it turned out, I could have used a little more finesse, the examiner actually gave me a few hints, but I passed.
I thought this STAR and approach looked close to impossible for me when you briefed it, but after watching your video I have now completed it successfully twice. The last time in overcast and a 1350 ft ceiling. You really made this potentially difficult task seem doable with your easy to follow instructions. You are my definite go to MSFS youtuber. I mostly fly the 737, so If you feel nostalgic I would love a few 737 vids! Thank you and keep up the good work!
Thank you for this and all your other videos. It so informative and brings my MSFS flying to a next level. I started to move more and more away from autopilot flying (like only using VNAV etc to decend and let the computer do all the stuff) to a more manual flying. Flying only AP was getting boring. So those videos are so helpfull to get to the next level. Thanks a lot!
I just learned how to fly with needles with your 727 tutorial vids, then this vid drops! I never thought that flying VOR and needles is fun compare to a modern day airliner 😅
I was taught to use turn 10 - tune 10 technique to turn 10 degrees with heading bug, tune VOR needle to next 10 degrees and wait to intercept and again and again...
That works as well, but can be hard to do with aircraft flying typical jet speeds. Turning 10 degrees each is more suited for slower aircraft - or really wide arcs.
I’ve tried this on other aircraft in the sim and it does take practice but certainly learnt from this video. This ofc is where you learn the foundation skills of flying. Watching the needles/instruments in more modern aircraft while it flies arcs with the autopilot flying is also interesting. As you said the autopilots fly a constant bank which isn’t really possible with manual flying. I don’t know in RL how strict the rules are in flying these arcs I assume it varies with the type of aircraft.
Normally it's 1NM accuracy on arrival procedures. It's actually not dependant on aircraft type, but is the same for all planes. However there are variations depending on the country you're in. In most countries the required accuracy on STARs is 1NM.
if you wanted to do some aviation archaeology (or anthropology idk) - have you looked in the Aussie VHF DME system and the techniques for arriving at your destination in IMC using DME as the only navaid?
I find it easier if the deviation bar crosses top to bottom than the other way round. The quicker way to dial in the next radial is just an added bonus.
I'd love to see you get out of your comfort zone and do a review on the GKS F-111, the cockpit is beautifully modelled and every switch appears to work, including the autopilot and ILS. It's long range and an old school navigation at high speed, both high and low altitudes would be awesome to see. The old mechanical ground position also appears to work.
Hi, I’d love to do something like that - but my past coverage of fighter jets on the channel tells me that the audience wouldn’t be interested enough to justify the time it would take for me to learn how to fly such a plane. With the little time I have left next to my main job it would probably take weeks to learn something completely new like this - time in which I couldn’t cover anything else.
It doesn't make much sense at the speed of a jet. In a 100kt piston airplane it would absolutely make sense - but in a 250kt jet it would result in an enourmous workload.
On my first IFR check ride in the late 80s, the examiner called ATC and specifically requested a DME arc approach. I almost freaked out because I had never done it, although I had a fairly good idea of how to do it - never mind the fact that my IFR instructor sent me off to the check ride never having done an arc. As it turned out, I could have used a little more finesse, the examiner actually gave me a few hints, but I passed.
I thought this STAR and approach looked close to impossible for me when you briefed it, but after watching your video I have now completed it successfully twice. The last time in overcast and a 1350 ft ceiling. You really made this potentially difficult task seem doable with your easy to follow instructions. You are my definite go to MSFS youtuber. I mostly fly the 737, so If you feel nostalgic I would love a few 737 vids! Thank you and keep up the good work!
It would be great if you'd do more videos like this, i.e. tips and tricks applicable to any airliner. Especially if it's hand flown.
Thank you for this and all your other videos. It so informative and brings my MSFS flying to a next level. I started to move more and more away from autopilot flying (like only using VNAV etc to decend and let the computer do all the stuff) to a more manual flying. Flying only AP was getting boring. So those videos are so helpfull to get to the next level. Thanks a lot!
I just learned how to fly with needles with your 727 tutorial vids, then this vid drops! I never thought that flying VOR and needles is fun compare to a modern day airliner 😅
I love to fly the DME arc, it shows a bit how well you can fly on your instruments and how to use them!
WOW, what an amazing video!
I was taught to use turn 10 - tune 10 technique to turn 10 degrees with heading bug, tune VOR needle to next 10 degrees and wait to intercept and again and again...
That works as well, but can be hard to do with aircraft flying typical jet speeds. Turning 10 degrees each is more suited for slower aircraft - or really wide arcs.
you are the best , we are learning a lot of things as a student pilot form ur channel u r a legend
Thanks for that video !
You're an awesome instructor.
Brings back memories of having understood it many years ago. Thank goodness we have more aids nowadays !
I’ve tried this on other aircraft in the sim and it does take practice but certainly learnt from this video. This ofc is where you learn the foundation skills of flying. Watching the needles/instruments in more modern aircraft while it flies arcs with the autopilot flying is also interesting. As you said the autopilots fly a constant bank which isn’t really possible with manual flying. I don’t know in RL how strict the rules are in flying these arcs I assume it varies with the type of aircraft.
Normally it's 1NM accuracy on arrival procedures. It's actually not dependant on aircraft type, but is the same for all planes. However there are variations depending on the country you're in. In most countries the required accuracy on STARs is 1NM.
if you wanted to do some aviation archaeology (or anthropology idk) - have you looked in the Aussie VHF DME system and the techniques for arriving at your destination in IMC using DME as the only navaid?
Awesome!
Is that the kind of exam pilots have in the simulator?
Why exactly track the reciprocal of the 047 radial? Simply because its quicker to turn to the 233 radial on the dial? Or is there more to it.
I find it easier if the deviation bar crosses top to bottom than the other way round. The quicker way to dial in the next radial is just an added bonus.
I'd love to see you get out of your comfort zone and do a review on the GKS F-111, the cockpit is beautifully modelled and every switch appears to work, including the autopilot and ILS. It's long range and an old school navigation at high speed, both high and low altitudes would be awesome to see. The old mechanical ground position also appears to work.
Hi, I’d love to do something like that - but my past coverage of fighter jets on the channel tells me that the audience wouldn’t be interested enough to justify the time it would take for me to learn how to fly such a plane. With the little time I have left next to my main job it would probably take weeks to learn something completely new like this - time in which I couldn’t cover anything else.
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Any reason not to do the turn 10 dial 10 technique? It has smaller turns and is a bit more precise.
It doesn't make much sense at the speed of a jet. In a 100kt piston airplane it would absolutely make sense - but in a 250kt jet it would result in an enourmous workload.
@@A330Driver thanks-interesting contrast!
I was about to ask the same question, oc it makes sense for a faster aircraft ....
I'd also like to see more of those flying techniques videos, pls