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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 ส.ค. 2024
- This video provides a brief project status update on my 1988 Porsche 944, outlining some challenges I've encountered while attempting to have the windshield replaced on the car.
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RADIO Antenna - another method, Run Coax to the back hatch, run coax where the wiper motor wire would normally be, mount Antenna thru hole normally used for Wiper Motor Shaft.
Very helpful! I live in Hawaii and Ive been trying to find a windshield replacement for the past couple of years with only one windshield shop on island. The struggle to find a windshield is real!
Oh wow! I can imagine… I attended UH Hilo for a semester and transportation in general was a challenge. Do you guys have a Porsche dealership?
@@NC944er Nice! I live over on Maui. Unfortunately the dealership is on Oahu. After some digging I got a fw360 windshield sitting in my garage for an 1985.5, hope It fits!
I found this by looking for rear hatch leak repairs. Good vid as usual man.
Ha! Yeah, “water leaks” is one of the search tags I used. 😂
Thanks for all your videos, the depth of knowledge and thoughtful explanations along with great video is so helpful.
Thanks Max! I’m happy to provide insight along my journey if it helps out other 944 owners. 👍
Safelite replaced mine (1986) with an OEM unit in October of 2021 as part of an insurance claim. The first windshield that was shipped from Germany was damaged and I ended up waiting about 6 months to get another one and have it installed. The cost was around $1,400. The shop had great customer service and communication but I actually had to take it back because of sloppy sealant work and the outer rubber gasket coming off. They fixed these issues and I'm happy with the results.
It’s becoming a lost art when it comes to these cars. I’m glad mine is done as well, but I now ride about 100 feet behind all vehicles on the highway in fear of rocks. 😂 I ended up paying about $1,200 for the glass and then $700 for the install by Porsche dealer + $200 for the adhesive kit. All in was around $2,500… which is pretty wild. Coincidentally, the shop “did the best they could” with the outer rubber seal on mine and didn’t cut it to length. They left it up to me to decide how I wanted it to finish, so I just ended up pulling it off and re-seating the entire thing.
Thank you again!! You're helping a fellow Carolinian
Yes sir, best of luck! 👍🏼
Porsche came through but that’s a serious bill! Will check my insurance policy and thanks as ever for the heads up…
Yeah man! Maybe ten years ago or so, the factory glass could be secured for about $450, so it’s more than doubled in price since then. Pretty wild!
Safelite replaced one in about 1999 for $200 installed, that's when they had a factory in Wichita Kansas
Those were the good old days! 😂
Great video as always. Another option for antenna is to install a 968 style antenna on the roof. That’s what I have on my car and I have no complaints with radio reception. I still have the factory antenna in the glass but reception is awful with it. You do have to cut holes to install a 968/VW roof antenna but it doesn’t look out of place on the car
Yeah, you were telling me about that, pretty cool! How did you run the wiring for it? I’m guessing you could also use a generic “shark fin” antenna.
@@NC944er I didn’t do it, it was done before I got the car. But, I pulled the headliner back and investigated it. The roof is double layer so you have a hole in the roof and a larger hole in the sublayer so you can attach everything. The wire runs down the b pillar.
Oh man, good to know about this. My windshield is in relatively good shape. I have one small pit, driver’s side left towards the top. I am going to just deal with it after this!
Yeah, if yours is leak-free, I’d leave well enough alone. 😂
@@NC944er yes, no leaks!
Mine is heavily pitted... not sure if I want to replace it, considering the headache involved. But now I'm like, what if I do ever need to replace it, and supplies will be even worse?
Yeah, I would be less concerned if SafeLite could confirm a future production status of their Fuyao option, but getting information out of them has been difficult. For some reason the customer service group can’t speak directly with the parts group. The shops are also starting to shy away as their intimate knowledge of the setup fades over time… they were actually asking me how the seals work and if there was a metal frame, etc, which did not inspire confidence. 😳 We are still under a glass shortage globally because of Covid, so I’m hoping production resumes at some point.
I just went through this with my 83'. I live in the St. Louis area and had contacted a half dozen places. All said they could do it, that their supply showed in stock. $325 Only to receive a call the next day that the supplier in fact did not have it in stock. I finally found a local small business that was able to source it. $615
So crazy! I’m glad you were able to get it done. Thanks for sharing. 👍🏼
3:00 Same Stereo Unit in 1987 951
Nice! It’s hard to believe they still work. 😂
Hello, how does the rubber trim attach to the windshield? I have a 86 944 and bought a new OEM windshield, it came with the frame gasket and the rubber trim. I see around the top and sides a plastic trim that has a white/clear piece of plastic pressed into it. It seems like that white strip should come out and the rubber trim would press in its place, but can't find any info. Called Porsche and they couldn't (wouldnt) tell me. Your windshield looks like it has the same windshield trim and rubber trim strip. Any advice =info would be greatly appreciated!
Hey, I don’t recall a white/clear plastic piece, but your understanding of the seal assembly sounds correct. Once the windshield frame seal is properly installed, there will be a notch running along the sides and top, covering the full length of the gasket. The outer rubber trim has a corresponding piece below that presses into that notch. It’s a pretty tight fit, but coating the notch with a little water and rolling the top seal in place with a large deep socket is what my tech recommended.
@@NC944er is this notch just a gap between the car and the windshield or something on the frame of the windshield?
@@djmjr77 The notch is in the rubber gasket that surrounds the edges of the windshield, basically bridging the gap between the glass and the body panels.
Great video thanks, one question though. The window frame which goes around it is already installed on the window you have so you didnt have to buy that loose one right?
The windshield glass comes with its base seal preinstalled, which runs around the underside of the glass. There is then another loose seal that runs around the outer edge of the glass on the top and sides, it fills the gap between the glass and the body panels and also acts to retain the rubber weather stripping/trim that goes over top of everything to complete the installation.
@@NC944er okay so my windshield has been removed for a complete repaint, and i bought a perfect used windshield with the frame for the rubber still on but not the pre attached seal. In order to place this windshield i will only need a very thick layer of windshield sealant then?
Because as you show your new windshield the gutter to put the outer rubber strip on appears to be installed on the windscreen already?
@@thijsdejongh6192 If you check out the diagram in the parts catalog it shows all the pieces involved, but yeah for a used windshield, you’d probably need to load up the channel with sealant to account for any gaps/imperfections.
@@NC944er okay, but that shows some sort of rubber around the top and sides of the window, where does that rubber go? You show two new rubbers in your video, one goes in around the side and top edges to cover the gap between the windshield and the metal of the car but where does the other rubber go?
About to go through this - mine leaks straight down onto my pants when there is heavy rain - the previous owners did a botch job for sure...and now I must try not too 😅
Best of luck Gareth! In the mean time, you could wear some quick drying athletic pants when driving the car. 😂
@@NC944er - I'm not too sure my clients would appreciate that, as much as I'd try to explain why 😄
Windshields are available but most are local pickup only. It could be a LONG drive to get one.
Exactly! 😂
My 84 does the same thing... passenger side floorboards just get soaked big-time.
My windshield is done
Very frustrating to say the least
Yeah, and it certainly doesn’t help that the DME computer sits down there. 😂 I originally thought it was just the battery tray, but after sealing that thing up tight and water was still coming in, I realized the windshield was an issue as well.
Good thing I have comprehensive insurance on my car covering glass. I have a crack I've ignored for some time. Perhaps it's time to put in a claim and get the job done.
Yes! Perfect if timed with a crack that can’t be filled. Since my seal failed due to age and not a damage event, they wouldn’t cover it, but at least it’s done.
Probably not something you would want considering yours is a restoration, but do you think running a bit of silicone sealant or tape around the delaminated area would help? That's the go to poor man's fix for rear hatch delamination.
Funny you should mention that, I actually injected quite a bit of black window caulking on the far corner to do just that, and it did provide an improvement, it’s just so far gone all along the bottom edge that there was still some water seeping in from somewhere. 🤔
Stay away from anything silicone anywhere near your car. Silicone permanently contaminates anything it comes in contact with. You cannot get silicone off a surface, once applied, at the molecular level. There are entire aerospace facilities that ban silicone products from being brought in due to this. Any rear hatch that has been "repaired" with silicone products is gone for good. There have been extensive discussions in the various forums over the years about this, with input from material engineers versed in the subject.
@@christopherkelly2504 After installing crown molding in five rooms around my house, my fingers are now probably 90% silicone… at the molecular level.
Seems like a pretty common story with Safelite
What were the part numbers for the seals?
Sure, here you go… The earlier cars had a slightly different setup, so it’s a good idea to confirm your model year application.
Outer windshield frame: 944-559-543-03
Top cover strip: 944-559-535-07
@@NC944er I have an 84 I ended up buying the seals you sent me a week ago, but I found out they don’t fit
@@zanesalamah846 Oh man! Hopefully you can swap them out for what you need. Good luck! 👍🏼
jeeez.. those prices are steep - that's like transparent gold!
If only I could melt my old one down, remove the impurities, and sell the remaining ore. 😂
Where did you find those speaker grilles?
Those are the standard factory speaker grills for the 1988 model year. Porsche updated them that year from the earlier flush mounted grills.
@@NC944er They look good, I wonder if the fit early cars.
lol safelite said they wouldn’t touch my 944 due to the age of the vehicle.
Yeah, the seals are so old now, that it’s far from the 1-2 hour job that it used to be, there’s a ton of difficult cleanup, potential to reveal rust and other issues once the glass is out, and since they charge a flat rate, it’s not worth the hassle for them. On mine, the Porsche dealership spent quite a few hours over what they actually billed me for, I’m guessing as a learning experience for the tech since they don’t get 944s coming in very often.
Wow hope I never have to replace mine.. I think my insurance covers windshield repair though.
I’ve used SafeLite through the Geico policy on my everyday cars to fill rock chips and it’s included free of charge. I’ve had good success minimizing small chips that way, but this is a whole different animal. 😂
@@NC944er bb gun??? Hahaha I kid! I kid! 😅
Mine has delamination and a pretty long crack. Definitely not looking forward to this repair lol
Yeah, I’m really hoping that the Fuyao production will at least pick back up once the glass shortage slows down or we’ll have quite a few unhappy 944 owners.
Mines cracked but I’m holding off cuz.. we’ll they’re $$
The price is quite ridiculous…
@@NC944er 1k at Chicago Porsche for the glass. But no one wants to do it. I’ll probably end up doing it myself. It’s cracked straight down the antenna so it doesn’t bother me much
@@devildog_iii3492 Yeah, everyone seems really scared to take on the liability and end up botching the job. 😂 Myself included… I considered DIYing it for about 30 seconds until I envisioned myself slipping and cracking the new glass. I’m hoping my local dealership will pull through and then I’ll have a warranty on the part and the service if it leaks. That is quite the convenient crack location on your windshield…
@@NC944er yea that would be a costly mistake haha. Did u get a quote from the dealer? Sorry haven’t watched ur video all the way yet
@@devildog_iii3492 They wanted to outsource to this local glass company, but their guy who does the Porsches just had back surgery, so the dealership is saying they’ll do it there for $300, and I’m assuming another $200 for the seal kit, I’m just waiting for them to get some new adhesive from Germany. I’m already in it for $1,300 in parts, so when it’s all said and done the windshield replacement will have cost 1/3 of the price I originally paid for the car. 🤣