You might be asking yourself what's the difference between a standard romantic waltz theme of 16 bars and a standard classical minuet theme of 8 x 2 bars (16 in total with the repetition). The difference is that those 16 bars of the romantic waltz are considered the minimum, as they are usually repeated, up to 32 bars. Hence, romantic waltzes can easily double the number of measures of a classical minuet, but since waltz is usually a much more faster dance, the average duration is about the same for both (2-3 minutes aprox. depending on the type).
Firstly, I just wanted to tell you this is a great video, and your piece is by no means bad. However, I don't think it is quite "Chopinesque". I think the reason it doesn't sound quite like Chopin is mainly because of the cadences. When he utilizes a half cadence, he (most of the times) hangs on the dominant and accentuates it, for example Op. 64 No. 1. And for the authentic cadences, if is a weak one, he usually uses a progression like ii(IV)-V7(V)-I, and for strong cadences something like I64-V13(V7)-I. He rarely (although sometimes he does) uses a simple V chord, he instead uses V7 or V13, and the V13 is quite a characteristic one, more so if you accentuate the mediant in the melody. I think if your work around with these cadential concepts, everything sounds much more "Chopinesque", even withoyt utilizing turns and grace notes. These are just some of my observations though!!! I really liked your piece.
Whoops, that's actually B.133 not B.131, my bad. It's usually referred to as Waltz no. 18 in E flat major, B. 133 or KK IVb/10, depending on the catalogue. It's often omitted from Chopin's waltzes lists as not everyone consider it an actual waltz (the original manuscript only says "sostenuto"). The work was composed in 1840 and dedicated to Émile Gaillard, but it wasn't published until 1955.
You might be asking yourself what's the difference between a standard romantic waltz theme of 16 bars and a standard classical minuet theme of 8 x 2 bars (16 in total with the repetition). The difference is that those 16 bars of the romantic waltz are considered the minimum, as they are usually repeated, up to 32 bars.
Hence, romantic waltzes can easily double the number of measures of a classical minuet, but since waltz is usually a much more faster dance, the average duration is about the same for both (2-3 minutes aprox. depending on the type).
Thank you for the video. It is packed with a lot of information. Your waltz example sounds very nice.
I'm glad it was useful!
Firstly, I just wanted to tell you this is a great video, and your piece is by no means bad. However, I don't think it is quite "Chopinesque". I think the reason it doesn't sound quite like Chopin is mainly because of the cadences. When he utilizes a half cadence, he (most of the times) hangs on the dominant and accentuates it, for example Op. 64 No. 1. And for the authentic cadences, if is a weak one, he usually uses a progression like ii(IV)-V7(V)-I, and for strong cadences something like I64-V13(V7)-I. He rarely (although sometimes he does) uses a simple V chord, he instead uses V7 or V13, and the V13 is quite a characteristic one, more so if you accentuate the mediant in the melody. I think if your work around with these cadential concepts, everything sounds much more "Chopinesque", even withoyt utilizing turns and grace notes. These are just some of my observations though!!! I really liked your piece.
@@d_rivadeneyra Thank you for the feedback, there are always new things to learn!
love your videos they are so helpful❤ especially the "how to compose" ones😊
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Love it!
Great video.
What is the complete title of the piece starting at 1:42?
I Used to play it in my Highschool days.
I've been searching for it over 20 + years
Whoops, that's actually B.133 not B.131, my bad. It's usually referred to as Waltz no. 18 in E flat major, B. 133 or KK IVb/10, depending on the catalogue.
It's often omitted from Chopin's waltzes lists as not everyone consider it an actual waltz (the original manuscript only says "sostenuto").
The work was composed in 1840 and dedicated to Émile Gaillard, but it wasn't published until 1955.
I'd liked a more serious composition than a waltz
That's alright, I'll explore other types of compositions in the future as well.