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Please be fair and learn two BBC executives’ names: Lee Jong Myung, co-CEO and Lee Kyu Tae, COO, whom along with Universal Japan were actually sued and legally defeated by the members of LOONA, and the only ones to be blamed for the labor abuse on the girls, NOT the so wrongly criticized company BBC whose managers and staff were always behind our moon girls while their contracts were in force.
A lot of that video is outdated now, but "LOONA is more like a cult" is still true. I have two LOONA tattoos, spent $250 on a single photocard, and have spent almost as much time learning LOONA lore as I have my actual religion. And I'm just normal for an Orbit
Gonna make some updates on the video since its from 2019 and there a lot of changes... so if youre interested about the updated information provided in the video here you are: 7:31 - yeah the company was alive because it had an insane debt... in the early years the girls didnt get much promotion, bbc had multiple lawsuits for unpromoted sponsorships, didnt pay their staff and most importantly didnt pay the members themselves (basically they put each member in infinite debt no matter how much money they got which was revealed in december 2022 after they kicked out chuu) Also as for the 9mil budget it also could be false since LOONASs former creative director (now the ceo of the company ARTMS is under) said something about the actual budget being around maybe 2mil (the 9mil was for advertisement) which was also released just this year. Additionally the Ilkwang group thing didn't matter much because BBC was a very far subsidiary of it so they didnt get much funding from them either I would suppose... 7:58 - about the MVs, this video was made after Butterfly was released and the budget included was spent mainly on the predebut project (so all solo, unit and MAYBE debut itself).. but yes their music videos are amazing and all of them are made by the group Digipedi (there are maybe 3 LOONA MVs that weren't made by them) 21:29 - as for lore usually you would need to begin with watching all of LOONA's MVs AND teasers in order from predebut but that takes a long time (but is so worth it btw)... there's also this multiple part guide (and still ongoing) by LOOMINOSITY called "The Loonaverse Basics" and the first part covers the overall basics (but even they suggest to watch all of the MVs first before watching!) 24:29 - they are definitely continuing the story since they're working with the person who came up with the LOONAVERSE again!! To be honest it has been hard to tell what the actual storyline of their new MV was but they had a BUNCH of references to the Loona lore that explained unfinished theories from even 2017... Even the concept itself is 'burning old Converses' (since they were OEC's and Loona's like symbolic shoes for some reason) and changing them to Air Force Ones. The same goes for LOOSSEMBLE - theyre continuing the lore as well.
Please more Loona reaction! Also their current MV's in their scattered groups is still adding to the lore and adding more layers because they are fighting for re-unification in the Loonaverse and irl. They girls are still very connected and constantly adding to the story!
Thanks for this reaction . . . but please do not assume LOOΠΔ and its lore ended. Why? Let me explain. First, they never disbanded but ended their unfair labor contracts. Second, as you might realize the LOOΠΔ brand is worth a lot in the industry. Third, it happens that today 10 of them are already in two companies run by the former BBC Creative and A&R directors (J Jeong's MODHAUS and Eric Yun's CTD E&M), both with projects explicitly aimed to reboot LOOΠΔ. Furthermore, J Jeong still owns some key legal rights to the contents of LOOΠΔ and Eric Yun recently won some rights to use the name LOOΠΔ, so the debuts of Odd Eye Circle, Loossemble, Chuu whose MVs include subtle references to LOOΠΔ too, and soon the other girls, are part of a new loop of the mobius strip of the LOOΠΔVERSE and it is only a matter of time before we see them reunited again. Thanks again.
I will be patiently waiting for you to comeback for Loona cause i'm INVESTED, I already can tell you'll be an orbit, it's a matter of time. Hope you keep doing this deep dive cause I can assure you there's still plenty more stuff to discover. My personal recommendation I would be dance videos reaction or a predebut music videos one (don't worry if it's all twelve in one video orbits love that). I'm already eagerly waiting for the next one, you make me reminisce my first days in this crazy rabbit hole called Loona.
I actually really want to continue to learn about them, its just that anything I react to, it will get copyrighted and money will go to the company. So I've stopped to figure out what to do. But I've come up with an idea so I'll be back with more Loona. I promise
@@thesavguard3 well it’s quite the tricky problem, in my personal opinion I think there shouldn’t be a problem with reactors using either official media or getting some copyright cause there’s no way it’s the company’s main income and as long as they use unofficial sources to keep enjoying music outside of reactions it’s fine. But I also understand that this boycott is mainly an ethical dilemma for every loona fan out there and it’s totally okay if someone just wants to follow moral and follow a strict boycott. It’s just that as much as the boycott works I think it’s also gatekeeping new people like you from enjoying content to some extent. As I’ve stated before I think that there’s an achievable balance between following strictly the boycott or not, but in any case I admire your efforts for trying to put completely clean content bro. Wish you all of luck with youtube copyright I know it can be a pain in the ass fr
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someone really needs to make an updated 2023 version guide😭😭 this video has a lot of misinfo especially bcos of how much bbc has lied to us.
Please be fair and learn two BBC executives’ names: Lee Jong Myung, co-CEO and Lee Kyu Tae, COO, whom along with Universal Japan were actually sued and legally defeated by the members of LOONA, and the only ones to be blamed for the labor abuse on the girls, NOT the so wrongly criticized company BBC whose managers and staff were always behind our moon girls while their contracts were in force.
A lot of that video is outdated now, but "LOONA is more like a cult" is still true. I have two LOONA tattoos, spent $250 on a single photocard, and have spent almost as much time learning LOONA lore as I have my actual religion. And I'm just normal for an Orbit
Gonna make some updates on the video since its from 2019 and there a lot of changes... so if youre interested about the updated information provided in the video here you are:
7:31 - yeah the company was alive because it had an insane debt... in the early years the girls didnt get much promotion, bbc had multiple lawsuits for unpromoted sponsorships, didnt pay their staff and most importantly didnt pay the members themselves (basically they put each member in infinite debt no matter how much money they got which was revealed in december 2022 after they kicked out chuu)
Also as for the 9mil budget it also could be false since LOONASs former creative director (now the ceo of the company ARTMS is under) said something about the actual budget being around maybe 2mil (the 9mil was for advertisement) which was also released just this year.
Additionally the Ilkwang group thing didn't matter much because BBC was a very far subsidiary of it so they didnt get much funding from them either I would suppose...
7:58 - about the MVs, this video was made after Butterfly was released and the budget included was spent mainly on the predebut project (so all solo, unit and MAYBE debut itself).. but yes their music videos are amazing and all of them are made by the group Digipedi (there are maybe 3 LOONA MVs that weren't made by them)
21:29 - as for lore usually you would need to begin with watching all of LOONA's MVs AND teasers in order from predebut but that takes a long time (but is so worth it btw)... there's also this multiple part guide (and still ongoing) by LOOMINOSITY called "The Loonaverse Basics" and the first part covers the overall basics (but even they suggest to watch all of the MVs first before watching!)
24:29 - they are definitely continuing the story since they're working with the person who came up with the LOONAVERSE again!! To be honest it has been hard to tell what the actual storyline of their new MV was but they had a BUNCH of references to the Loona lore that explained unfinished theories from even 2017... Even the concept itself is 'burning old Converses' (since they were OEC's and Loona's like symbolic shoes for some reason) and changing them to Air Force Ones. The same goes for LOOSSEMBLE - theyre continuing the lore as well.
genuinely praying someone makes a GOOD updated loona guide cus… oh my 😭 i’m surprised more orbits haven’t done so
Congrats for falling into the LOONA rabbit hole in 2023. You're gonna enjoy the journey.
once in the loona rabbithole always in the loona rabbithole
LOONA deep dive in 2023? You're a brave soul
Please more Loona reaction! Also their current MV's in their scattered groups is still adding to the lore and adding more layers because they are fighting for re-unification in the Loonaverse and irl. They girls are still very connected and constantly adding to the story!
Deep diving LOONA is like scuba diving the Mariana Trench
Thanks for this reaction . . . but please do not assume LOOΠΔ and its lore ended. Why? Let me explain.
First, they never disbanded but ended their unfair labor contracts.
Second, as you might realize the LOOΠΔ brand is worth a lot in the industry.
Third, it happens that today 10 of them are already in two companies run by the former BBC Creative and A&R directors (J Jeong's MODHAUS and Eric Yun's CTD E&M), both with projects explicitly aimed to reboot LOOΠΔ.
Furthermore, J Jeong still owns some key legal rights to the contents of LOOΠΔ and Eric Yun recently won some rights to use the name LOOΠΔ, so the debuts of Odd Eye Circle, Loossemble, Chuu whose MVs include subtle references to LOOΠΔ too, and soon the other girls, are part of a new loop of the mobius strip of the LOOΠΔVERSE and it is only a matter of time before we see them reunited again.
Thanks again.
the girls said they’re open for a ot12 comeback and kim lip said loona hasn’t disbanded so there’s still hope!!
I will be patiently waiting for you to comeback for Loona cause i'm INVESTED, I already can tell you'll be an orbit, it's a matter of time. Hope you keep doing this deep dive cause I can assure you there's still plenty more stuff to discover. My personal recommendation I would be dance videos reaction or a predebut music videos one (don't worry if it's all twelve in one video orbits love that). I'm already eagerly waiting for the next one, you make me reminisce my first days in this crazy rabbit hole called Loona.
I actually really want to continue to learn about them, its just that anything I react to, it will get copyrighted and money will go to the company. So I've stopped to figure out what to do.
But I've come up with an idea so I'll be back with more Loona. I promise
@@thesavguard3 well it’s quite the tricky problem, in my personal opinion I think there shouldn’t be a problem with reactors using either official media or getting some copyright cause there’s no way it’s the company’s main income and as long as they use unofficial sources to keep enjoying music outside of reactions it’s fine. But I also understand that this boycott is mainly an ethical dilemma for every loona fan out there and it’s totally okay if someone just wants to follow moral and follow a strict boycott. It’s just that as much as the boycott works I think it’s also gatekeeping new people like you from enjoying content to some extent. As I’ve stated before I think that there’s an achievable balance between following strictly the boycott or not, but in any case I admire your efforts for trying to put completely clean content bro. Wish you all of luck with youtube copyright I know it can be a pain in the ass fr
please watch loona funny moments when you can, personally they’re the funniest group! so full of chaos!! i think you would enjoy watching it
welcome to orbit, welcome to the loonaverse 💫
Love this.
OMG YESSS