I tried the alcohol/fire rope burner in that size tin, found it a little small. Settled on a boot polish type tin, a little bbq/heat resistant spray paint to keep the rust off and its good.
I made one of these and a put a circular metal mesh screen over the top of the rope coil, fit tightly inside to keep it from ever falling out. The little lip will hold the screen securely. Very good! Small design will fit inside a candle tin, candy tin or shoe polish tin.
what works excellent as a fuel bottle are the 5 hour energy bottles. they hold 2ozs. or around 60ml. also as a measuring cup for the fuel. those cough syrup measure cups on the cough syrup bottle. look for one that is marked in 15ml & 30ml.
I think im gonna try making a hole in the lid of a tin, and adding a fire rope to use as a wick. Then i should get a smaller flame than if i light it without the lid - and if i want a bigger flame i can just remove the lid. Or maybe having several lids with different number of wicks for easy adjustment to the amount of heat it gives off. Pulling the wicks further up or down into the hole would also affect the size of the flame, and the heat it gives off.
I fully switched to fancy feast stoves. Lights much easier in cold weather and is not as dangerous when it topples over and it doesnt need a extra pot stand
@@willowwood3384 I use the Trangia 90% of the time but occasionally I need something with a flatter profile. Also, when you combine something like this stove with a Vesuv WS you essentially have a burner, a windshield and a pot stand for roughly 50g (or less!). If what you're concerned with is weight and you don't require flame control because all you're doing is heating up or boiling liquid then you can't beat it. The smallest gas cansider alone weighs 100g when empty! Here we're talking about a burner, windshield and pot stand for 50g.
Excellent, thanks - after making drinks can stoves ("penny" stoves) and such, I'm thinking of switching to this type. Some of those tins have a screw thread and a silicone rubber seal round the inside of the lid - I reckon they should hold excess fuel without spillage like a trangia (you'd just have to snuff it and let it cool before screwing it down to avoid melting the silicone).
Ironically, you know you can burn Vaseline and it last longer and has higher energy content. You didn't really have to empty the container. You just needed to partially empty it and embed the wick.
Cool little stove. I’ll have to make one. My light weight stove of choice is the Fancy Feast. They can weigh between 17 and 22g. and has a built in pot stand so additional weight savings. I always use aluminum foil for wind screens. Cheap, folds flat and is lite.
@@bdmenne I form the foil in a circle with a two inch or so opening. I’ve never had to stake one down but the never had to use the stove in an open gale. I try to setup in the lea of a tree, rock or in front of me with my back to the wind. To secure the wind screen tent stakes would work or rocks, sticks etc.
if you use a shoe polish can , you can use the shoe polish up first as it will also burn . then use the fire rope and alcohol . the bigger can will also give you a little more heat and a longer burn time.
nice idea, must try it and see if it fits in the British Army hexi burner with the Crusader mug ring. Looks like it should be small enough, and much cleaner than using hexi.
Hello, I really like the idea of the vaseline jar as it has many advantages. I am thinking looking at your application is that you may experiment with the distance from the burner to the pot (by placing something underneath the stove to move it closer to the pot) I bet your burn times will improve. With different distances you may find a sweet spot where you've optimized the lowest cooking time. Good Luck!
8:00 - Put a wire handle in the can lip for safety use, can glue with JB Weld or if have tools, solder. See this video for example of handle "Simmer Ring for CHS Version2". BTW - Nice little DIY stove.
NIce hack. I'm wondering if, in a pinch, you could even use it with the Vaseline by sticking a couple of short wicks into it. Perhaps a regular or mini-sized Altoids tin would work also (although you couldn't store alcohol inside. I'll have to check it out.
You could show the water boiling to prove the efficiency. I don't think the water boiled, especially with all that wind, that's why Trangia has a chamber to vaporize the alcohol and increase efficiency.
What about leaks, though? I don't imagine it is sealed as well as a trangia. I wonder if any modifications could be made to improve the seal. A ranger band around the edge might help.
What size fire rope did you use? 6mm or 10mm. I agree for boiling a brew is an excellent idea, people use the cigarette tins as well and the lid acts as a windshield. Nice video
The Bushcraft Essentials, Bushbox Ultralight Outdoor Pocket Stove packs in at a feather weight 70g, yet allows for cooking with almost all pot sizes, using twigs, bark, leaves and pine cones for fuel, as well as the option of using Trangia burner, or hexamine tablets.
You shouldn't need to replace it. Here where I live the people have a closed fireplace. The door is lined with fire rope and after several seasons the fire rope is still snow white. It's like it's never been used. Brand new out of the plastic packet it came in.
The Bushcraft Essentials, Bushbox Ultralight Outdoor Pocket Stove packs in at a feather weight 70g, yet allows for cooking with almost all pot sizes, using twigs, bark, leaves and pine cones for fuel, as well as the option of using Trangia burner, or hexamine tablets.
Greetings from México. Please, where did you get that "box" "collapsible stove", or what ever you call it? I didn't see one like that before. Looks very handy and I would like to buy it.
The Bushcraft Essentials, Bushbox Ultralight Outdoor Pocket Stove packs in at a feather weight 70g, yet allows for cooking with almost all pot sizes, using twigs, bark, leaves and pine cones for fuel, as well as the option of using Trangia burner, or hexamine tablets.
what is wrong with a short wait while it cools down? as you will not keep it on while eating…or do you? so just while you eat it cools down. where is the problem?
It's not wise on upright canister stoves as the canister heats up & "can" explode like a bomb, but I use the Ocelot windscreen from Flat Cat Gear with a small diameter 4" pot, as it has a reflector to protect excess heat from heating up the canister, but only works on specific stoves like the BRS
The wick helps in case you bump into it or tilt it, that way it won't spill and be a fire hazard. A wick helps slow down vaporization too, so it better for actual cooking, and worse for just boiling. Pros and cons for both.
@@willowwood3384 I don't give a shit whether it's technically a stove or a burner! I care about the weight on my back. Trangia weighs almost 5 ounces. Decent pot stand weighs 3 ounces. A bottle of heet weighs almost 12 ounces so to cook something weighs almost 20 ounces. My side burning stove made from bottoms of two 53 mm aluminum cans. That stove weighs 7 grams. Needs no pot stand. Can support over 16 pounds of weight without crushing, I have personally used that stove 800 times. Add a bottle of heet and My stove, my Toaks 500 titanium cup with lighter, wind protector, Ferro rod with scraper, silicone lip guard silicone tool to remove my cook pot from the fire with the stuff sack to keep the kit together Weighs the same just for the trangia, pot stand, and a bottle of fuel. Plus My stove is so efficient a bottle of heet will last 10 days. If you want to carry a 50 pound pack be my guest. My pack loaded only weighs 14 pounds
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Perfect! I used it on My hike thru the pyrenees and it worked great. Very light and fuel was easy to find. You do need a good windscreen.
I tried the alcohol/fire rope burner in that size tin, found it a little small. Settled on a boot polish type tin, a little bbq/heat resistant spray paint to keep the rust off and its good.
I'm never in a hurry when I'm out, so time to make brews etc doesn't matter. I go out to escape the clock. Nice wee stove.
I made one of these and a put a circular metal mesh screen over the top of the rope coil, fit tightly inside to keep it from ever falling out. The little lip will hold the screen securely. Very good! Small design will fit inside a candle tin, candy tin or shoe polish tin.
These are great, i have one made from a boot polish tin that i keep in my crusader cook kit. 😁👍🏼
what works excellent as a fuel bottle are the 5 hour energy bottles. they hold 2ozs. or around 60ml. also as a measuring cup for the fuel. those cough syrup measure cups on the cough syrup bottle. look for one that is marked in 15ml & 30ml.
I think im gonna try making a hole in the lid of a tin, and adding a fire rope to use as a wick. Then i should get a smaller flame than if i light it without the lid - and if i want a bigger flame i can just remove the lid. Or maybe having several lids with different number of wicks for easy adjustment to the amount of heat it gives off. Pulling the wicks further up or down into the hole would also affect the size of the flame, and the heat it gives off.
I've tried them all and keep going back to the Trangia.
Same! They are all about micro stoves and weight saving, come on, how heavy is the Trangia burner. I'll be sticking with my Trangia thank you.
I fully switched to fancy feast stoves. Lights much easier in cold weather and is not as dangerous when it topples over and it doesnt need a extra pot stand
@@willowwood3384 I use the Trangia 90% of the time but occasionally I need something with a flatter profile. Also, when you combine something like this stove with a Vesuv WS you essentially have a burner, a windshield and a pot stand for roughly 50g (or less!). If what you're concerned with is weight and you don't require flame control because all you're doing is heating up or boiling liquid then you can't beat it. The smallest gas cansider alone weighs 100g when empty! Here we're talking about a burner, windshield and pot stand for 50g.
Excellent, thanks - after making drinks can stoves ("penny" stoves) and such, I'm thinking of switching to this type. Some of those tins have a screw thread and a silicone rubber seal round the inside of the lid - I reckon they should hold excess fuel without spillage like a trangia (you'd just have to snuff it and let it cool before screwing it down to avoid melting the silicone).
Ironically, you know you can burn Vaseline and it last longer and has higher energy content. You didn't really have to empty the container. You just needed to partially empty it and embed the wick.
Cool little stove. I’ll have to make one.
My light weight stove of choice is the Fancy Feast. They can weigh between 17 and 22g. and has a built in pot stand so additional weight savings.
I always use aluminum foil for wind screens. Cheap, folds flat and is lite.
you could hold it down with tent stakes too, I guess. What holds your aluminum in place when windy.
@@bdmenne I form the foil in a circle with a two inch or so opening. I’ve never had to stake one down but the never had to use the stove in an open gale. I try to setup in the lea of a tree, rock or in front of me with my back to the wind. To secure the wind screen tent stakes would work or rocks, sticks etc.
if you use a shoe polish can , you can use the shoe polish up first as it will also burn . then use the fire rope and alcohol . the bigger can will also give you a little more heat and a longer burn time.
nice idea, must try it and see if it fits in the British Army hexi burner with the Crusader mug ring. Looks like it should be small enough, and much cleaner than using hexi.
Gonna try that with the grey graphite infused one. Looks fun and would be nice in my survival kit and/or car.
That’s a brilliant idea, definitely trying this.
What is "fire rope"?
Fire resistant rope, normally used as a door seal on wood burners.
Otherwise known as plumbers felt.. Its carbon fiber felt. In the USA you will probably find it at harbour freight
Amazing! I’ll give this a try thank you !
Hello, I really like the idea of the vaseline jar as it has many advantages. I am thinking looking at your application is that you may experiment with the distance from the burner to the pot (by placing something underneath the stove to move it closer to the pot) I bet your burn times will improve. With different distances you may find a sweet spot where you've optimized the lowest cooking time. Good Luck!
My alcohol stove is so light it actually make my back pack lighter when I put it inside
😂 👍🏼
Do you use helium as gas burner or what?
have you tried ceramic wool? like a kojin stove
Hello thanks for video did it hold enough alcohol to boil 2 cups water
Great presentation 👍
8:00 - Put a wire handle in the can lip for safety use, can glue with JB Weld or if have tools, solder.
See this video for example of handle "Simmer Ring for CHS Version2".
BTW - Nice little DIY stove.
That is very cool, thanks.
Can you clarify the type of rope you used? "Fire rope" does not show up in the US. Unless this is wood stove door gasket. Thx
that's what it is, door gasket.
That's exactly what it is -$5.85 canadian for 3/8" x 6' at the depot today
NIce hack. I'm wondering if, in a pinch, you could even use it with the Vaseline by sticking a couple of short wicks into it. Perhaps a regular or mini-sized Altoids tin would work also (although you couldn't store alcohol inside. I'll have to check it out.
Well done
cool this is exactly what I've been looking for
If you replace the fire rope with carbon felt, it will last forever. Carter 6
I hate it when you people read my mind! (What little bit of mind I have left...) Having said that, I wonder if there is a weight difference?
You could show the water boiling to prove the efficiency. I don't think the water boiled, especially with all that wind, that's why Trangia has a chamber to vaporize the alcohol and increase efficiency.
Why would Trangia have a camera?
@@BingWatcher Oh, my mistake, I means "chamber", not camara hehehe
Makes sense now. Thanks
@@BingWatcher My native language is portuguese, "chamber" in portuguese is "câmara" 😄
What about leaks, though? I don't imagine it is sealed as well as a trangia. I wonder if any modifications could be made to improve the seal. A ranger band around the edge might help.
It sounds like he’s burning off all or most of the fuel each time he uses it.
Excellent 👍
What size fire rope did you use? 6mm or 10mm. I agree for boiling a brew is an excellent idea, people use the cigarette tins as well and the lid acts as a windshield. Nice video
Great idea and video. What triangle windscreen are you using in the video?
I wanna know to, exactly (the “stove”) what I’m looking for
Bushcraft Essentials Bushbox 😅
The Bushcraft Essentials, Bushbox Ultralight Outdoor Pocket Stove packs in at a feather weight 70g, yet allows for cooking with almost all pot sizes, using twigs, bark, leaves and pine cones for fuel, as well as the option of using Trangia burner, or hexamine tablets.
@@danielsingh9415 thanks
How often do you need to replenish the fire rope?
You shouldn't need to replace it. Here where I live the people have a closed fireplace. The door is lined with fire rope and after several seasons the fire rope is still snow white. It's like it's never been used. Brand new out of the plastic packet it came in.
What is the stand you are using for your burner? I have looked over and over and can't find it.
i have this one...expensive but very simple and the best,,,
www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B004WW9YHC/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
The Bushcraft Essentials, Bushbox Ultralight Outdoor Pocket Stove packs in at a feather weight 70g, yet allows for cooking with almost all pot sizes, using twigs, bark, leaves and pine cones for fuel, as well as the option of using Trangia burner, or hexamine tablets.
I Like it and this is simple...
Anyone have a link for "fire rope".
Ask your local fireplace shop or hardware store.
Fits perfect in a soup can.
The alcohol burner
Great idea, please tell me the make of your windbreak/pot holder.
It's beautiful work. I'd like to experience it. I wonder if it will work more efficiently like a spring if steel wire is wrapped around the wick?
I thought you meant sole, but shoe polish might not be as flammable as petroleum jelly.
Nice video Sir.
Great!
What diameter of rope do you use please ?
Use one proportional do the box height.
Greetings from México. Please, where did you get that "box" "collapsible stove", or what ever you call it? I didn't see one like that before. Looks very handy and I would like to buy it.
Amazon, eBay, Walmart, any outdoor store
The Bushcraft Essentials, Bushbox Ultralight Outdoor Pocket Stove packs in at a feather weight 70g, yet allows for cooking with almost all pot sizes, using twigs, bark, leaves and pine cones for fuel, as well as the option of using Trangia burner, or hexamine tablets.
Parabéns!!!likeee
Cardboard works just as good
how long will the cardboard last before it burns out?
Clever! Using vaseline tin as alcohol stove. Almost no effort at all.
what is wrong with a short wait while it cools down?
as you will not keep it on while eating…or do you?
so just while you eat it cools down.
where is the problem?
what size rope did you use?
You need a cord with diameter proportional to the height of your box.
E.g. inside box has 3mm height, get a 2.5 - 3mm cord (rope).
@@Sokol10 Thanks!
Do you have to use the wind shield with gas too?
Depends on environment, some portable gas stove have optional windscreen, and pots like Jetboil with flux ring somewhat protect the flames.
It's not wise on upright canister stoves as the canister heats up & "can" explode like a bomb, but I use the Ocelot windscreen from Flat Cat Gear with a small diameter 4" pot, as it has a reflector to protect excess heat from heating up the canister, but only works on specific stoves like the BRS
20 min to cool??? Is it in sauna?
But do you really need the wick at all? Just pour the fuel in and light it.
The wick helps in case you bump into it or tilt it, that way it won't spill and be a fire hazard. A wick helps slow down vaporization too, so it better for actual cooking, and worse for just boiling. Pros and cons for both.
@@pedroclaro7822 I see, good feedback!
One nice
Trangia is too heavy and doesn’t work without a pot stand
How many of these stoves work without a pot stand? Don't confuse a stove for a burner. I use my Trangia "Burner" in a Firebox nano "Stove".
@@willowwood3384The fancy feast ones dont need one
@@willowwood3384 I don't give a shit whether it's technically a stove or a burner!
I care about the weight on my back. Trangia weighs almost 5 ounces. Decent pot stand weighs 3 ounces. A bottle of heet weighs almost 12 ounces so to cook something weighs almost 20 ounces.
My side burning stove made from bottoms of two 53 mm aluminum cans. That stove weighs 7 grams. Needs no pot stand. Can support over 16 pounds of weight without crushing, I have personally used that stove 800 times. Add a bottle of heet and My stove, my Toaks 500 titanium cup with lighter, wind protector, Ferro rod with scraper, silicone lip guard silicone tool to remove my cook pot from the fire with the stuff sack to keep the kit together
Weighs the same just for the trangia, pot stand, and a bottle of fuel. Plus
My stove is so efficient a bottle of heet will last 10 days. If you want to carry a 50 pound pack be my guest. My pack loaded only weighs 14 pounds
what about efficiency?
All alcohol stoves have pretty much the same efficiency.
Depends more on which pot you put on top and how well wind protected it is
Half of the video you talk about the weight how important it is to whom it is important who cares 10 grams 20 grams nonsense
garbage 😂😂😂
Rubbish