I use Fedora, and have for the past several years. I have distro-hopped a lot, but I consistently keep coming back to Fedora. It is the best. Nice video!
@@CLVlogs05 I would say it is nearly on par with Ubuntu. I have not found in my experience any apps that exist for Ubuntu / Debian that I couldn't get by some means for Fedora, even if it's only as a Flatpak. Since Ubuntu is based on Debian, though, there are more options from it compared to Fedora.
I tested Ubuntu 8.? back in 08 or 09. It was different. Years later, i started playing with Mint > eventually LMDE. Then i came across Fedora when i learned more about Gnome, so Fedora is my daily driver. I keep coming back to it. When i find a problem, i might venture away but always come back cause it's just that great!
Switched frrom Debian to Fedora. 2 reasons: Gnome is really cool and awesome to use these days, and Ghost Recon Wildlands in Lutris runs a lot better in Fedora vs. Debian (sorry Debian). Debian is very stable and isn't going anywhere, and it's perfect for Windows using switching to Linux, but Fedora caught my eye a few months ago and i've been tinkering with it here and there. Made the switch just this past weekend (March 15/16 2024). I don't think i'll be using anything else anytime soon.
Been using fedora full time for most of the year straight. Absolutely enjoy it big time and don't see myself ever changing it unless something major happened to make me do so. it's simple to use and it's more up to date than debian based distros. Got Gnome and kde on wayland working perfectly fine on my pc. Even when I went to beta 39 everything was just as smooth as 38. No reason to distro hop at all again since everything i need is right here and whatever else can be added. I never once had any set of updates take 5 minutes though. I update all the time though so I am not sure why that would happen to anyone. I usually take a guess that someone is on an outdated 20 year old laptop as with usual with linux people but if not then no idea since I update in moments.
I remember good ol' Red Hat Linux back in the day. Ran it on one of my old machines back in college. I think Windows Vista was on the horizon back then but not yet released, and I needed something that could still get some life out of that old clunker. Red Hat did it. I also remember Lindows (late Linspire). Good times!
"The majority of Linux users use Arch" A common misconception due to how many times Arch users say they use Arch compared to every other distro saying they use their distro of choice. Arch is a popular distro, but I would be genuinely surprised if it is even in the top ten.
Fedora is the sweet spot of; stable with decently up to date packages, sensible defaults and minimal fuss. The only major criticism I have is the installer is poor in comparison to other installers (eg Ubuntu). It would also be nice if they included a theme/accent color switcher like Ubuntu does. It is a solid distro and I change very little when installing it.
Well ubuntu adds those accents manually to the gnome desktop in appearance while fedora uses vanilla gnome which doesnt have it. gnome devs have had a huge discussion over accent colors with other desktop environment developers and they haven't decided what colors to choose for it yet gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-shell/-/merge_requests/2715
I believe GPU Screen Recorder does have a working Flatpak, the official site has some instructions under the line "Note that if you want to record your monitor on AMD/Intel then you need to install the flatpak system-wide, like so:", so if Flatpaks are preferable thats one way to go! The immutability when it comes to Silverblue looks really appealing, so the more Flatpaks we can use the better!
fedora silverblue user here. I usually say that I use it as a personal challenge. Last time I tried to install plexserver on my silverblue. had to learn systemd, podman and containers, and a masters degree in linux permissions. Still haven't manage to do it. In any other system? point and click an installer.
Believe me or not, it not all people that don't think Fedora is the best are RedHat haters. I use SO many tools on my distros that were Redhat sponsored, systemd, pipewire, firewalld, I believe dracut, they've also invested in BTRFS, the list goes on and on. And I am thankful for that. But I can't recommend Fedora for many people. It's been less stable than my arch setup for me, and their war on any and all proprietary parts (Nvidia drivers, docker,... ) and their early/only adoption of some tools (SELinux, pipewire when it wasn't ready yet,... ) makes it actually take more time to actually use than something like EndavourOS.
I am on Fedora KDE since Fedora 24. The number of cases something broke I can count on one hand. Usually I switch to newer version when old one is about to drop out; for example I am still on 39; but installed 40 for my daughter when I had to reinstall her PC.
I've moved from Ubuntu to Fedora, then to Rocky as my main distro now. Fedora has gotten really good, I just see myself using RHEL based more for a lot of the work I'm doing. If I wasn't using Rocky or RHEL, I'd be using Fedora.
Fedora is not Bleeding edge, it is cutting edge. There's a difference. Bleeding Edge is Manjaro, cutting edge is more tested than just here you go the latest and greatest.
Yes that is true, i learnt that afterwards, manjaro by default is stable repo which updates every month, you can change it tho to be bleeding edge like arch
I think I had the same shutdown issue you can fix it when changing in /etc/systemd/system.conf and change DefaultTimeoutStopSec to like 5-10 arch diff btw
I have little experience with kali in vm, now I stopped using wins 10 and started using mint. I use Nvidia and want to try nobura because I mainly play games, but people say nobura is good, but developed by one person, don't risk yourself. So I am interested in fedora instead, but still hesitant about nobura. What should I do? Now I find that mint installed the wrong Nvidia driver for me. I want to change the distro.
@@นัทคุงเองนะ bazzite is the solution i think :) bazzite.gg/ Using fedora is redhat linux basically and redhat is owned by IBM + there is a TON of maintainers on fedora Its what makes it such a comfortable distro in my opinion You do have to enable the rpmfusion repos for the nvidia drivers but that isnt hard Thats why im recommending bazzite over nobara now as bazzite is backed by ublue which has a lot of people maintaining also and is immutable which if you dont know what that is you can watch my latest video about it
After almost a decade jumping around distros and coming back to windows for the "stability" and "gaming performance" i finally settle with Linux Mint 21.3 edge as my only desktop OS, Flatpak out of the box was a huge deal, no more libraries version incompatibility, i don't mind the extra space you need for flatpak packages, but my main surprise was lan and wifi working out of the box and the impressive gaming performance i can get out of my uhd 770 intel iGPU in dx11 games using a lutris-wine-proton configuration (new build, still don't have a GPU lol), dx12 is a complete disaster but im sure it is because my iGPU support for dx12 is kind of flimsy. With this video you just gave me confirmation of something i was suspecting; a lot of linux distros are moving to a more user friendly first experience without lossing what makes linux so great: "the freedom to make the OS yours", i can see myself using Fedora in the future to get new features and updates faster.
I love Fedora. 95% as bleeding edge as Arch, but with only .001% as many bugs. I like Ultramarine too- bug for bug compatible with Fedora. It is to Fedora what Spiral is for Debian or Gecko is for OpenSUSE.
love your video, subs incoming. maybe you can improve your sound quality on dedicated mic so your voice can be better. Me myself using tripple boot fedora, debian, and windows 11 on my laptop. I need one distro for bleeding edge, and fedora Gnome is perfect for me. I still need to learn from many youtubers like you.
Thanks, Thats a pretty old video, iv changed my audio mix on my mic a couple times, but what do you mean exactly? Is my voice too deep or light? Or is it not loud enough?
@@linuxnext sorry ive just explored your newest videos, the sound quality has already excellent. Thank you for noticing comment on you old videos tho, appreciate it😁
Great video, thanks for the info. Just installed Fedora XFCE as my main daily driver last week. I was looking for some other information about it and this was great.
HI I use Linux Mint 4 months now and the hd youtube and other video platforms like tv websites on demand is anything but smooth and good.Windows were playing like a charm.I tried everything with my pc guy but nothing .Is fedora better in hd youtube and other video platforms like tv websites on demand? thnx!
@@linuxnext mate i use the same browsers and the same laptop as previous when i was on windows 10.And i see the difference in the hd play , i have small laggings and lack of smooth playing
I really love the way Fedora looks. It looks really modern. I would love to have it as my daily driver. The problem I have been having is trying to connect to a network with wifi. I will not find any gateways.
On fedora they use free foss drivers which means there are a lot of drivers missing with lots of laptops and computers If you do this in your terminal what is the name of your wifi card? sudo lspci | grep -i broadcom Or do just sudo lspci and find the network controller
@@linuxnext I tried that. I am using Mint right now. And it is not showing it. I am sure the OS makes a difference. But what I remember. I think it is an Intel based network card. I am using it on a 8th gen i7 laptop.
I would also follow this, it adds the rpmfusion repo, both free and non-free then you install the intel broadcom driver www.fosslinux.com/134505/how-to-install-key-drivers-on-your-fedora-system.htm
@@linuxnext I just found a command line that worked I guess. This is what it showed. Network controller: Intel Corporation Cannon Point-LP CNVi [Wireless-AC] (rev 30)
personally i like fedora for a ubuntu alternative with latest software but i dont like redhat. i use endevour os for the last 1 year and something and used opensuse. worst case senario i will use arch but i dont want to waste time configuring stuff.
I have tried Fedora 40, KDE Plasma, in particular, to change the TRANSPARENCY on the taskbar - despite having chosen it in the pop-up menu. - it doesn't work! Any idea why?
Been trying to find a Geruda Gaming edition vs Fedora video, I'm stuck between the two. Would love to see performance differences between the two with gaming, and features.
After watching your channel I recently installed Nobara on a seperate NVMe on my Gaming PC. So far most games run better then on Windows but sadly the game I play the most doesn't work quite well on Linux sadly. When I was looking for a linux distro I usualy now see garuda as a good gaming distro, do you have any experience with that distro?
I do have experience with that distro, its gotten a lot better recently with how the desktop environment is setup and their own gui applications they have for installing different applications What game are you having issues with?
Hi there, I was in the same situation that you are in a few weeks ago. I in the end went to bazzite (customized silverblue). The installation was bad, to be honest, but the rest is completely perfect. ProtonGE is two clicks away, steam, wine, lutris... Custom Nvidia latency hacks... Gaming optimized kernel - everything is there, just after first boot, waiting for the gamer to start gaming.
I used Nobara for about 6 months and generally liked it. However there were a few issues with their repos and apps I couldn't get around so just went straight Fedora. I don't game on it so it didn't seem much of a benefit. They may have fixed those issues by now too. Its a good distro if you have NVidia GPUs. Not a big fan of Garuda (garish theming aside). While a lot of channels say it's stable, I had nothing but issues with docks crashing, having to rebuild taskbars regularly. It seemed like too much work for mine. No such issues on Fedora.
@peterschmidt9942 the garuda issue you were having should be fixed as they switched to the normal plasma panel now instead of the other panel software The nobara repos should also be fixed as glorious eggroll transitioned his repos over to new servers and how updates deployed are tested before updating. But i agree fedora is awesome also
@@linuxnext I was having issues with certain versions of the apps in the Nobara repos. There seemed some weird incarnations of the, (Like Firefox). I tried installing it from Fedora also with no luck. Again, maybe they're fixed now. I did hear that also about Garuda also. I might give it another whirl in the future. But I generally change the theme to something more tame LOL. Which is that extra bit of work. Fedora/Ultramarine works great for me as is.
I use it because things tend to actually work, while it seems like something is always broken in other distros. I want to like LMDE, for instance, but it starts breaking when I go to use Wine on it, and here the Fedora Media Creator Flatpak is having some permission issue I can't seem to get around. Fedora somehow refines and polishes things so well that these minor annoyances don't come up.
I used Ubuntu first and didn’t like snap. I had some duplicate apps between snap and flatpak since I didn’t understand they were different types. I complained about snaps on a comment and got told to stop hating on snaps just because everyone hates them. Moved to fedora KDE and it works for me. Also, maybe it’s me or my machine but I think flatpak works a bit better when loading.
I did Fedora and Debian testing, just ended up back on Mint. It just works too well and is pretty darn good customization wise. I do miss the really up to date packages though, but Linux Mint 22 is around the corner :)
I'm using LMDE. Since it's Debian based, it's going to be more stable and probably won't run the risk of breaking if Ubuntu decides to shit the bed, capitalistically...
@@TheJason13 you can always enable the testing branch too. Personally I like debian, mx on toasters (which is just debian) as well as Mint or Mint LMDE. They are all basically Debian. Fedora is nice but... it's also Rhel lmao.. I also prefer Arch. Honestly all Linux is the same really when you get down to it.
I just went through a few other distros, mint cinnamon included. None looked good on my monitor, caused me hell because of compatibility issues bc amstupid, but FEDORA is a godsend. I FINALLY have a fully functional, not blurry 3440x1440 linux OS :) the update is now taking a bit BUT still worth it.
Is it possible, and the default version of Fedora 40 for example to add a second desktop like KDE plasma? IOW, when you see the screen where the icons are stacked in several rows and columns in the middle of the page, and you have a view of the two workspaces or desktop environments on top, can you make one of those KDE Plasma?
Well I switched to Fedora KDE about 2 months ago and unfortunately I've had issues. Since I come from Windows it was quite a pain searching the internet to find solutions and then not finding a fix or realizing that my issues are due to the new kernel
I was trying fedora few days ago for my physical machine with gnome. Although I like it, I notice I got limited color (not full RGB) with my monitor that used HDMI. Im using AMD GPU, and some google solution just too complicated for me.
been using fedora for a few years, very stable and never had to reinstall. lots of people tweak it for gaming but runs good without the nerdy tweaks lol. i do share the same negatives though, they will be fixed with time im sure
Yes both of these games do work well on linux in general with proton, if your using amd or intel then using fedora is perfect for that as they update their packages a lot quicker then other distros like mint or ubuntu for example, so you get more patches and better performance because of that, enshrouded is bringing steamdeck support soon so when you play it right now there is one issue that can occur where if you change the graphics it can crash the game lol. Palworld worked through proton day one of release on my amd gpu and performance was great 👍
As a former arch user, and some distro hoping I’ve landed on fedora for my real needs (student in cybersecurity and programming) and yes I dual boot kali
I dont know if I dont know how to use it but each time I use fedora software manager app I get problems, like not being able to share screen on zoom or stuff like that.
sharing your screen doesnt have anything to do with the software manager, zoom simply doesnt support linux fully for screen sharing properly, there are workarounds like xwaylandvideobridge but besides that your out of luck
That being said, I switched to Fedora 40 from Ubuntu because snaps brooooo. Ain't no way I'm cool with snaps and having to uninstall them, then stop them from re-installing on their own.
Fedora is amazing the only distro that i got everything working. Getting the nvidia drivers right was still a pain i ended up using grok to tell me how to do it but it worked! Im getting 100 fps in resident evil 2
Framework laptops, system76 laptops, a thinkpad x1 I run a acer travelmate from 2015 and it works with fedora. Anything a year or 2 old should work on fedora just the wifi is always the factor so if you find a laptop that you like, check what wifi adaptor it has and check if fedora supports that wifi adapter
I've got it running on an - ASUS Vivobook flip 14 laptop - Acer Nitro 5 laptop (with an Nvidia GPU) - MSI mini DP10-13M They're all fairly recent/not old and no issues with any of them 👍. I thought I might have issues with the MSI (being fairly recent), but it installed fine with everything working well. Much better than Win10 on the same machine.
It also doesnt use the best mirrors out of the box. Ive always had to tweak the mirrors used and for better deltas(partial updates). Idk why both of those are always set kinda poorly out of the box. Feels like it should be default for that part 😅
@linuxbenchmarks esp on my internet it makes a huge difference. Living in the middle of nowhere having it download deltas and from the fastest mirror is huge 😆
The threat of Telemetry being put into Fedora turned me away from it. I think the proposal got dropped but I doubt that's the last we will hear from it. For now, I'm staying with Mint.
Good Lord! I was planning to switch from Windows to Linux. After seeing this abundance of information and the endless stream of abbreviations and terms that are completely gibberish to me, it is clear that Linux may be fun for nerds, but definitely not for those who want to use the computer for normal programs.
You had to learn how windows worked didn't you? Cause i had to, if not i would have not made it through school or learned how to install apps or do anything in general. I understand if you dont want to learn it if you dont have the time or use specific software that dont work under linux for your job. For the general user you could easily use something like zorin os, Pop os, linux mint, nobara and have a grand all time just like on windows. sure your gonna have to learn a couple things like what proton to use or apps but thats the fun part of using a new operating system If you're gonna move to fedora, arch, opensuse, manjaro get ready to learn a heck of a lot of things as lots of things are not setup for you by default As i always say linux is not windows, its built differently and i personally like more then how windows is built but this personal preference And yes I'm a nerd, i love hardware and software throughout my childhood to adulthood, That's a reason why i use linux as i want to get the most out of my hardware and let me choose what i want on my operating system and not Microsoft
Do you mean the system package version of steam? If so then Enable rpm fusion steam repo in the discover store settings then search steam and choose the rpm version of steam and uninstall the flatpak version of steam
@@linuxnext I used KDE spin and removed Discover because i did not like updates through it, so you can do it for sure, doing update trough terminal, Dragora or Discover are the same. If you miss it, you can install it back. I like terminal and Dragora. I did it on Fedora 38 and im pretty sure its still the same at 39.
Fedora was my first choice since i moved from win 11..but i had expirienced issues due to nvidia graphic drivers, and gui crashed several times..it is not good for my hardware. so i moved to debian 12 and havent had any issue since. But for those fedora works i am glad:D i wasnt that lucky with it.
@@linuxnext i tried that i did a lot of stuff in order to make driver work.. gnome crashing was gone but flickering was still present. I also updated BIOS and installed aditional Nvidia packages but still.. problem is in Nvidia 535- newer drivers. On Debian i am using 525. Maybe if i ever return to Fedora again ill try to set that driver instead. But i heard from some People that they dont have any issues with newer drivers.. also many complain for the same reason Like i do xd.
I've got it installed on a laptop with an Nvidia GPU and had to install the non free repos in order to use the propitiatory drivers. There are talks that the Nouveau drivers (free) will be much better in upcoming releases as NVidia are being more open with their drivers. For now, just use the propitiatory drivers if you return.
@@peterschmidt9942 Nvidia drivers for Linux gives better performanse but Linux dosent love Nvidia:) if you find one version od driver that Works without issues stick to it. Its not a Fedora fault or any other distro.. but Nvidias fault. Radeon Works perfectly on every distro..so i heard.. Open source drivers can be stable but performance Will be worse. So in my opinion either to use radeon or stick to specific version of Nvidia driver which Works..and never Go for a newer version of driver...well only if you have hardware up to date
Nobara has their own repos, but they update at nearly the same frequency as fedora, they use some newer packages so like nobara 40 wont come out for a couple weeks from now
You can have it buddy, after years of running MX-Linux I installed Linux Fedora yesterday. It could not even find my WiFi card, Wifi dongle or ethernet card. I spent all day today getting windows back on the pc so I could at least have wifi and download MX-Linux again, cuz Fedora couldn't find my USB slots....!
Fedora doesnt like to have proprietary drivers preinstalled so thats probs why it didnt work, if you want fedora use nobara Thats one of the great things about linux is each distro likes to provide what it wants so if it doesnt work for you, you can easily try something else
I dont understand why you would put that music behind. I someone is bored he wouldn't have watched the video anyway. We just want to listen to you, not the music.
Fedora is the only Linux that has the essential (for me with my extremely low eyesight and low mobility) external display brightness tray icon. Unfortunately, that only controls brightness, not contrast, which constantly resets back up to 33% or so. Fedora supports Plasma 6.1.1, which is great. However, it refuses to scale non-KDE programs properly. I also have to install Snaps capability and use both for some programs. I think it's very sad that Linux desktop has split into 2 versions: Snaps/Flatpaks, rather than just applying some freaking discipline around dependencies. Windows solved this so long ago, and it kills me that the Linux community has to resort to technologies designed for mobile apps, then does to in a way that splits the community into two for no good reason. The vast majority of distro use Snaps, sure, since they're much more lightweight and geared toward app installation (like Microsoft's much superior APPX packages). But still, foolish holdouts like Fedora keep Flatpack alive.
what apps dont scale properly on kde plasma? are you using wayland also? uuuh snaps is used more in linux????? no its not lol fedora, arch/arch based, opensuse tumbleweed, ubuntu based distros like linux mint, pop os, kde neon and plenty more all use flatpak lol no one in the linux community likes snaps because canonical decisions being proprietary with snaps and malware getting into there store pretty frequently because they didnt have people checking or approving packages + them forcing it on ubuntu based distros which is fine because thats there distro, oh and also when you compare speeds sometimes snaps is slower but saying snaps is more popular is just wrong lol whats so bad about flatpak exactly? and whats apps do you need that arent system packages or available under flatpak?
@@linuxnext Every distro I've tried in the last 2 months except Redhat derived distros like Fedora, use snaps. I believe Arch uses none of the above, which is my preference. VLC and Brave don't scale properly. Even Firefox doesn't scale as much as it should. Brave doesn't even obey the mouse cursor size, still, after this was reported ~4 years ago.
@@Christobanistan ok i see so why dont you like flatpak exactly? is it its privacy friendly permissions that are setup, how it updates, how packages are used in the containerized environment? cause to me these are positives
well scaling under garuda on wayland plasma 6.1.1 with legacy x11 apps, apply scaling themselves, works properly with vlc at 125% or 150% scaling, and brave also is working correctly when being scaled for me, these are through flatpak aswell, doesnt look blurry at all
@@linuxnext Containers are very heavyweight and slow by comparison. They result in lots of memory use since the OS can't reuse shared libraries (it's like every app was statically linked). The security model is also too restrictive so many apps which need to access system libraries can't do so without weird hacks that break easily. Flatpak came first, and therefore got some traction, but containers were kind of the 'fad' at the time, and unfortunately got used when they were a very poor fit, and survive now mainly due to momentum. This is just scratching the surface. Snaps and Windows APPX packages solve these issues with a custom implementation that does everything via OS features. Isolation is just as complete, but it's just way easier to implement what you need.
Fedora is like Windows Home but Pwned by Redhell. As Redhat are now owned by IBM I'm sure this distro will eventually end up doing what most IBM software projects do.... end up on the scrap heap... highly opinionated... and worse... spreads their alpha software after "testing" upstream to their "enterprise" OS before it's ready or "prod". These guys are kidding if they think this is a successful business model... it's a VERY poor copy of Microsoft business model who are also in decline as an OS vendor. Did I mention Redhell are paywalled and they use a shit service manager? It's a shitty experience and the reason why other distros like Ubuntu appeared. There are much better distros that can do much more.
Red Hat employee and many of us use Fedora as our daily driver. Although, I do tend to try out other distros as well.
I use Fedora, and have for the past several years. I have distro-hopped a lot, but I consistently keep coming back to Fedora. It is the best. Nice video!
I do the same. Fedora seems to work the best with high-end hardware.
how is software compatibility in comparison to ubuntu?
@@CLVlogs05 I would say it is nearly on par with Ubuntu. I have not found in my experience any apps that exist for Ubuntu / Debian that I couldn't get by some means for Fedora, even if it's only as a Flatpak. Since Ubuntu is based on Debian, though, there are more options from it compared to Fedora.
In my opinion Ubuntu has better compatibility with most systems. I've been an Ubuntu for years. I own several hp laptop and Ubuntu is the champion
I tested Ubuntu 8.? back in 08 or 09. It was different. Years later, i started playing with Mint > eventually LMDE. Then i came across Fedora when i learned more about Gnome, so Fedora is my daily driver. I keep coming back to it. When i find a problem, i might venture away but always come back cause it's just that great!
Fedora is not 'owned' by Red Hat; however, it is sponsored by Red Hat.
What do you mean by SPONSORED by Red Hat?
Is Fedora a FREE version of Red Hat?
@@jakobw135 Technically, yes, Fedora is the upstream of CentOS Stream, which in turn is the upstream for RHEL.
Nope, fedora is an upstream of centos stream, then centos stream is an upstream of the rhel based distros@@jakobw135
Fedora is a testing bed for Red Hat.
What If red hat stop supporting fedora.. ....
I switched to fedora 37 and on 39 now, never looked back, love it.
Switched frrom Debian to Fedora. 2 reasons: Gnome is really cool and awesome to use these days, and Ghost Recon Wildlands in Lutris runs a lot better in Fedora vs. Debian (sorry Debian). Debian is very stable and isn't going anywhere, and it's perfect for Windows using switching to Linux, but Fedora caught my eye a few months ago and i've been tinkering with it here and there. Made the switch just this past weekend (March 15/16 2024). I don't think i'll be using anything else anytime soon.
Started on 36! Now on 40 and since I settled on Fedora I will admit I really haven’t even bothered trying anything else.
I was distro hopping for a good year or 2. After using Fedora, I never switched again. What a fantastic Linux distro
And it has KDE spin!
Fedora is my main distro right now, seems quite stable to me. The installer was also super easy and very intuitive.
Tried our many distros and was on Arch for quite some time. But after switching to Fedora 39 Xfce I feel I can finally settle down. It just works!
Been using fedora full time for most of the year straight. Absolutely enjoy it big time and don't see myself ever changing it unless something major happened to make me do so. it's simple to use and it's more up to date than debian based distros. Got Gnome and kde on wayland working perfectly fine on my pc. Even when I went to beta 39 everything was just as smooth as 38. No reason to distro hop at all again since everything i need is right here and whatever else can be added. I never once had any set of updates take 5 minutes though. I update all the time though so I am not sure why that would happen to anyone. I usually take a guess that someone is on an outdated 20 year old laptop as with usual with linux people but if not then no idea since I update in moments.
Fedora is developed by Fedora Project that is sponsored by Red Hat.
I started with RHL 3... up through 9... then Fedora 1 through 39 now. Wouldn't change a thing.
You’re a true OG if you started with the old Red Hat Linux!!
I remember good ol' Red Hat Linux back in the day. Ran it on one of my old machines back in college. I think Windows Vista was on the horizon back then but not yet released, and I needed something that could still get some life out of that old clunker. Red Hat did it.
I also remember Lindows (late Linspire). Good times!
"The majority of Linux users use Arch"
A common misconception due to how many times Arch users say they use Arch compared to every other distro saying they use their distro of choice. Arch is a popular distro, but I would be genuinely surprised if it is even in the top ten.
boilingsteam.com/linux-distro-july-2024/
Fedora is the sweet spot of; stable with decently up to date packages, sensible defaults and minimal fuss. The only major criticism I have is the installer is poor in comparison to other installers (eg Ubuntu). It would also be nice if they included a theme/accent color switcher like Ubuntu does. It is a solid distro and I change very little when installing it.
Well ubuntu adds those accents manually to the gnome desktop in appearance while fedora uses vanilla gnome which doesnt have it.
gnome devs have had a huge discussion over accent colors with other desktop environment developers and they haven't decided what colors to choose for it yet
gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-shell/-/merge_requests/2715
I believe GPU Screen Recorder does have a working Flatpak, the official site has some instructions under the line
"Note that if you want to record your monitor on AMD/Intel then you need to install the flatpak system-wide, like so:", so if Flatpaks are preferable thats one way to go! The immutability when it comes to Silverblue looks really appealing, so the more Flatpaks we can use the better!
Fedora is the smoothest Linux distro
fedora silverblue user here.
I usually say that I use it as a personal challenge. Last time I tried to install plexserver on my silverblue. had to learn systemd, podman and containers, and a masters degree in linux permissions. Still haven't manage to do it. In any other system? point and click an installer.
thats linux.
Im using Arch btw
What do you like about it :>
@@linuxnext so I can flex that I use it, not much else really
@@horstcs great point 😂
Im running fedora inside a virtual machine on a arch linux host.
The only thing i mis in fedora is the aur, or something like it.
lol
Fedora is really polished.
Don't listen to all this RedHat haters.
Believe me or not, it not all people that don't think Fedora is the best are RedHat haters.
I use SO many tools on my distros that were Redhat sponsored, systemd, pipewire, firewalld, I believe dracut, they've also invested in BTRFS, the list goes on and on.
And I am thankful for that. But I can't recommend Fedora for many people. It's been less stable than my arch setup for me, and their war on any and all proprietary parts (Nvidia drivers, docker,... ) and their early/only adoption of some tools (SELinux, pipewire when it wasn't ready yet,... ) makes it actually take more time to actually use than something like EndavourOS.
I am on Fedora KDE since Fedora 24. The number of cases something broke I can count on one hand. Usually I switch to newer version when old one is about to drop out; for example I am still on 39; but installed 40 for my daughter when I had to reinstall her PC.
I've moved from Ubuntu to Fedora, then to Rocky as my main distro now. Fedora has gotten really good, I just see myself using RHEL based more for a lot of the work I'm doing. If I wasn't using Rocky or RHEL, I'd be using Fedora.
It's kinda cool how much you interact with the comments
Lol thank you, i mean i want to interact with the community, if not then it will seem like i dont care what others think
Fedora have the best out of most linux distros, latest and greatest packages, with the stability of an LTS
Yes also my experience. Arch on the opposite end was a horrible experience.
Today I just checked Fedora 39 usb boot on a DELL XPS 17 9730 and WOW all devices recognized and smooth butter experience 🎉
I dont really like linux because i got alot of problem but Fedora was the best for me
Fedora is not Bleeding edge, it is cutting edge. There's a difference. Bleeding Edge is Manjaro, cutting edge is more tested than just here you go the latest and greatest.
Yes that is true, i learnt that afterwards, manjaro by default is stable repo which updates every month, you can change it tho to be bleeding edge like arch
I think I had the same shutdown issue
you can fix it when changing in /etc/systemd/system.conf
and change DefaultTimeoutStopSec to like 5-10
arch diff btw
I have little experience with kali in vm, now I stopped using wins 10 and started using mint. I use Nvidia and want to try nobura because I mainly play games, but people say nobura is good, but developed by one person, don't risk yourself.
So I am interested in fedora instead, but still hesitant about nobura. What should I do?
Now I find that mint installed the wrong Nvidia driver for me. I want to change the distro.
@@นัทคุงเองนะ bazzite is the solution i think :)
bazzite.gg/
Using fedora is redhat linux basically and redhat is owned by IBM + there is a TON of maintainers on fedora
Its what makes it such a comfortable distro in my opinion
You do have to enable the rpmfusion repos for the nvidia drivers but that isnt hard
Thats why im recommending bazzite over nobara now as bazzite is backed by ublue which has a lot of people maintaining also and is immutable which if you dont know what that is you can watch my latest video about it
I can´t decide, should I use Fedora, Ubuntu or Arch Linux.... I always get stuck on distro hopping
I would stick with fedora if you don't want to always be updating core packages
how safe is it? im guessing redhat has some type of malware or spyware inside of it? people dont make stuff for free, especially corporations
Lol no, fedora is redhat Linux which is an enterprise Linux distro which costs money, so fedora is the bleeding edge version of that distro
After almost a decade jumping around distros and coming back to windows for the "stability" and "gaming performance" i finally settle with Linux Mint 21.3 edge as my only desktop OS, Flatpak out of the box was a huge deal, no more libraries version incompatibility, i don't mind the extra space you need for flatpak packages, but my main surprise was lan and wifi working out of the box and the impressive gaming performance i can get out of my uhd 770 intel iGPU in dx11 games using a lutris-wine-proton configuration (new build, still don't have a GPU lol), dx12 is a complete disaster but im sure it is because my iGPU support for dx12 is kind of flimsy. With this video you just gave me confirmation of something i was suspecting; a lot of linux distros are moving to a more user friendly first experience without lossing what makes linux so great: "the freedom to make the OS yours", i can see myself using Fedora in the future to get new features and updates faster.
i do not miss how much of a pain wifi used to be on linux.
I love Fedora. 95% as bleeding edge as Arch, but with only .001% as many bugs. I like Ultramarine too- bug for bug compatible with Fedora. It is to Fedora what Spiral is for Debian or Gecko is for OpenSUSE.
love your video, subs incoming. maybe you can improve your sound quality on dedicated mic so your voice can be better.
Me myself using tripple boot fedora, debian, and windows 11 on my laptop. I need one distro for bleeding edge, and fedora Gnome is perfect for me. I still need to learn from many youtubers like you.
Thanks, Thats a pretty old video, iv changed my audio mix on my mic a couple times, but what do you mean exactly? Is my voice too deep or light? Or is it not loud enough?
@@linuxnext sorry ive just explored your newest videos, the sound quality has already excellent. Thank you for noticing comment on you old videos tho, appreciate it😁
Great video, thanks for the info. Just installed Fedora XFCE as my main daily driver last week. I was looking for some other information about it and this was great.
I want to know why Fedora is so fast on my laptop, so I can install that fastness on a systemdless distro.
HI
I use Linux Mint 4 months now and the hd youtube and other video platforms like tv websites on demand is anything but smooth and good.Windows were playing like a charm.I tried everything with my pc guy but nothing .Is fedora better in hd youtube and other video platforms like tv websites on demand?
thnx!
Hardware? Did you enable hardware acceleration in the browser?
@@linuxnext yes nothing changed
@@linuxnext Yes but the same thing
@@pankat5698 ok which browser and what is your hardware?
@@linuxnext mate i use the same browsers and the same laptop as previous when i was on windows 10.And i see the difference in the hd play , i have small laggings and lack of smooth playing
I really love the way Fedora looks. It looks really modern. I would love to have it as my daily driver. The problem I have been having is trying to connect to a network with wifi. I will not find any gateways.
On fedora they use free foss drivers which means there are a lot of drivers missing with lots of laptops and computers
If you do this in your terminal what is the name of your wifi card?
sudo lspci | grep -i broadcom
Or do just sudo lspci and find the network controller
@@linuxnext I tried that. I am using Mint right now. And it is not showing it. I am sure the OS makes a difference. But what I remember. I think it is an Intel based network card. I am using it on a 8th gen i7 laptop.
@@mikehawk7307 try inxi -n it could be a broadcom card
I would also follow this, it adds the rpmfusion repo, both free and non-free then you install the intel broadcom driver
www.fosslinux.com/134505/how-to-install-key-drivers-on-your-fedora-system.htm
@@linuxnext I just found a command line that worked I guess. This is what it showed. Network controller: Intel Corporation Cannon Point-LP CNVi [Wireless-AC] (rev 30)
Your desktop is looking good. What Plasma theme is that you are using in the video?
Im using papirus icon pack
@@linuxnext Thanks! I've noticed that. I was asking for the *Plasma* Theme. Is it just default Breeze Theme?
@karlfriedrich2065 yep 😂
personally i like fedora for a ubuntu alternative with latest software but i dont like redhat. i use endevour os for the last 1 year and something and used opensuse. worst case senario i will use arch but i dont want to waste time configuring stuff.
I have tried Fedora 40, KDE Plasma, in particular, to change the TRANSPARENCY on the taskbar - despite having chosen it in the pop-up menu. - it doesn't work!
Any idea why?
works for me, its not full transparent tho, only a little and thats why you may think its not doing it
Been trying to find a Geruda Gaming edition vs Fedora video, I'm stuck between the two. Would love to see performance differences between the two with gaming, and features.
you wont find much of a difference, its more do you want faster updates or not
After watching your channel I recently installed Nobara on a seperate NVMe on my Gaming PC. So far most games run better then on Windows but sadly the game I play the most doesn't work quite well on Linux sadly.
When I was looking for a linux distro I usualy now see garuda as a good gaming distro, do you have any experience with that distro?
I do have experience with that distro, its gotten a lot better recently with how the desktop environment is setup and their own gui applications they have for installing different applications
What game are you having issues with?
Hi there, I was in the same situation that you are in a few weeks ago. I in the end went to bazzite (customized silverblue). The installation was bad, to be honest, but the rest is completely perfect. ProtonGE is two clicks away, steam, wine, lutris... Custom Nvidia latency hacks... Gaming optimized kernel - everything is there, just after first boot, waiting for the gamer to start gaming.
I used Nobara for about 6 months and generally liked it. However there were a few issues with their repos and apps I couldn't get around so just went straight Fedora. I don't game on it so it didn't seem much of a benefit. They may have fixed those issues by now too. Its a good distro if you have NVidia GPUs.
Not a big fan of Garuda (garish theming aside). While a lot of channels say it's stable, I had nothing but issues with docks crashing, having to rebuild taskbars regularly. It seemed like too much work for mine. No such issues on Fedora.
@peterschmidt9942 the garuda issue you were having should be fixed as they switched to the normal plasma panel now instead of the other panel software
The nobara repos should also be fixed as glorious eggroll transitioned his repos over to new servers and how updates deployed are tested before updating. But i agree fedora is awesome also
@@linuxnext I was having issues with certain versions of the apps in the Nobara repos. There seemed some weird incarnations of the, (Like Firefox). I tried installing it from Fedora also with no luck. Again, maybe they're fixed now.
I did hear that also about Garuda also. I might give it another whirl in the future. But I generally change the theme to something more tame LOL. Which is that extra bit of work. Fedora/Ultramarine works great for me as is.
I use it because things tend to actually work, while it seems like something is always broken in other distros. I want to like LMDE, for instance, but it starts breaking when I go to use Wine on it, and here the Fedora Media Creator Flatpak is having some permission issue I can't seem to get around. Fedora somehow refines and polishes things so well that these minor annoyances don't come up.
I just wish I could power throttle my nvidia gpu and intel cpu because of thermal throttling on nobara, still figuring out how.
I used Ubuntu first and didn’t like snap. I had some duplicate apps between snap and flatpak since I didn’t understand they were different types. I complained about snaps on a comment and got told to stop hating on snaps just because everyone hates them. Moved to fedora KDE and it works for me. Also, maybe it’s me or my machine but I think flatpak works a bit better when loading.
I did Fedora and Debian testing, just ended up back on Mint. It just works too well and is pretty darn good customization wise. I do miss the really up to date packages though, but Linux Mint 22 is around the corner :)
I'm using LMDE. Since it's Debian based, it's going to be more stable and probably won't run the risk of breaking if Ubuntu decides to shit the bed, capitalistically...
@@TheJason13 you can always enable the testing branch too. Personally I like debian, mx on toasters (which is just debian) as well as Mint or Mint LMDE. They are all basically Debian. Fedora is nice but... it's also Rhel lmao.. I also prefer Arch. Honestly all Linux is the same really when you get down to it.
I just went through a few other distros, mint cinnamon included. None looked good on my monitor, caused me hell because of compatibility issues bc amstupid, but FEDORA is a godsend. I FINALLY have a fully functional, not blurry 3440x1440 linux OS :) the update is now taking a bit BUT still worth it.
Is it possible, and the default version of Fedora 40 for example to add a second desktop like KDE plasma?
IOW, when you see the screen where the icons are stacked in several rows and columns in the middle of the page, and you have a view of the two workspaces or desktop environments on top, can you make one of those KDE Plasma?
i dont think you can, thats a gnome thing
Well I switched to Fedora KDE about 2 months ago and unfortunately I've had issues. Since I come from Windows it was quite a pain searching the internet to find solutions and then not finding a fix or realizing that my issues are due to the new kernel
Can you list some of the issues :P
I was trying fedora few days ago for my physical machine with gnome. Although I like it, I notice I got limited color (not full RGB) with my monitor that used HDMI. Im using AMD GPU, and some google solution just too complicated for me.
please try out kde plasma, they have more options for color profiles then gnome
@@linuxnext will try it later, thanks
been using fedora for a few years, very stable and never had to reinstall. lots of people tweak it for gaming but runs good without the nerdy tweaks lol. i do share the same negatives though, they will be fixed with time im sure
How is Fedora for gaming. Like say Enshrouded and Palworld? Do these games run good on Fedora? Thanks
Yes both of these games do work well on linux in general with proton, if your using amd or intel then using fedora is perfect for that as they update their packages a lot quicker then other distros like mint or ubuntu for example, so you get more patches and better performance because of that, enshrouded is bringing steamdeck support soon so when you play it right now there is one issue that can occur where if you change the graphics it can crash the game lol. Palworld worked through proton day one of release on my amd gpu and performance was great 👍
@@linuxnext Awesome! Thank you
As a former arch user, and some distro hoping I’ve landed on fedora for my real needs (student in cybersecurity and programming) and yes I dual boot kali
Been on ubuntu for quite some time, fedora is more stable and provides a tad bit newer software in my experience
I dont know if I dont know how to use it but each time I use fedora software manager app I get problems, like not being able to share screen on zoom or stuff like that.
sharing your screen doesnt have anything to do with the software manager, zoom simply doesnt support linux fully for screen sharing properly, there are workarounds like xwaylandvideobridge but besides that your out of luck
My only gripe with Fedora is that it does not have something like Timeshift. Btrfs-Assistant and snappy is not intuitive and not user-friendly.
That being said, I switched to Fedora 40 from Ubuntu because snaps brooooo. Ain't no way I'm cool with snaps and having to uninstall them, then stop them from re-installing on their own.
Fedora is amazing the only distro that i got everything working. Getting the nvidia drivers right was still a pain i ended up using grok to tell me how to do it but it worked! Im getting 100 fps in resident evil 2
Where can i find these icons?
store.kde.org/s/KDE%20Store/p/1166289
Fedora is not bleeding edge. Leading edge is the more correct term.
I agree :)
How’d you get the permanent toolbar at bottom? I don’t like the super key nonsense
Oh, you’re using KDE. I’ll have to try that
you can also use gnome extensions, grab extension manager from the gnome software store and then search for dash to panel or dash to dock
Hey, Where can I find your screen saver? Thanks
x.com/artpaji?t=PrV1uVcEo9rjPnvcAyzFjg&s=09
Are you running KDE Plasma?
Yes
what is good laptop hardware to run Fedora, where all hardware features "just work"?
Framework laptops, system76 laptops, a thinkpad x1
I run a acer travelmate from 2015 and it works with fedora.
Anything a year or 2 old should work on fedora just the wifi is always the factor so if you find a laptop that you like, check what wifi adaptor it has and check if fedora supports that wifi adapter
I've got it running on an
- ASUS Vivobook flip 14 laptop
- Acer Nitro 5 laptop (with an Nvidia GPU)
- MSI mini DP10-13M
They're all fairly recent/not old and no issues with any of them 👍. I thought I might have issues with the MSI (being fairly recent), but it installed fine with everything working well. Much better than Win10 on the same machine.
It also doesnt use the best mirrors out of the box. Ive always had to tweak the mirrors used and for better deltas(partial updates). Idk why both of those are always set kinda poorly out of the box. Feels like it should be default for that part 😅
agreed, not much of a problem for me but it is a issue
@linuxbenchmarks esp on my internet it makes a huge difference. Living in the middle of nowhere having it download deltas and from the fastest mirror is huge 😆
The threat of Telemetry being put into Fedora turned me away from it. I think the proposal got dropped but I doubt that's the last we will hear from it. For now, I'm staying with Mint.
Yeah 100%, iv moved to opensuse tumbleweed to get a similar experience to fedora as i want newish packages
but it's not in fedora now or is it?
@@jasonfanclub4267 not at the moment, but Red Hat influences Fedora. They're gonna try and press it in there again.
using fedora 40 w/ kde. solid
can you plz give the wallpaper link
twitter.com/artpaji/status/1609198846168502272?t=suYkSulsSJ1CFEetF-oj5g&s=19
@@linuxnext Thanks
Why are you not wearing a fedora 😢😢😢
Missed opportunity :(
I was not aware fedora was a rolling distro. I don't plan to change though I'm enjoying it so far
Nah not rlly, it feels like it sometimes tho
Pretty sure Fedora "Rawhide" is their rolling version
Good Lord! I was planning to switch from Windows to Linux. After seeing this abundance of information and the endless stream of abbreviations and terms that are completely gibberish to me, it is clear that Linux may be fun for nerds, but definitely not for those who want to use the computer for normal programs.
You had to learn how windows worked didn't you? Cause i had to, if not i would have not made it through school or learned how to install apps or do anything in general.
I understand if you dont want to learn it if you dont have the time or use specific software that dont work under linux for your job.
For the general user you could easily use something like zorin os,
Pop os, linux mint, nobara and have a grand all time just like on windows.
sure your gonna have to learn a couple things like what proton to use or apps but thats the fun part of using a new operating system
If you're gonna move to fedora, arch, opensuse, manjaro get ready to learn a heck of a lot of things as lots of things are not setup for you by default
As i always say linux is not windows, its built differently and i personally like more then how windows is built but this personal preference
And yes I'm a nerd, i love hardware and software throughout my childhood to adulthood, That's a reason why i use linux as i want to get the most out of my hardware and let me choose what i want on my operating system and not Microsoft
i hate about fedora is that their repo only contains floss apps
that is one reason why i switched to arch :P
I have fedora for a long time but finally moved on to nobara 😂
I use Fedora on my laptop, too
is it chrome and brave browser friendly ?
Yes 👍
any tutorial or links how u made kde plasma looks like this?
That is an icon pack, go to appearance, icons, grab a new one from the store plugin, search for papirus, download and apply
Tumbleweed would be my choice of Distro if I ever user other than Arch
Haha well you see iv been running opensuse tumbleweed for about a week and couple days now and have been loving it :)
Using Fedora on my server right now. DNF so functional, but Arch on my Desktop.
I tried Lee spin but I kept getting bugs and glitches
What type of bugs and what hardware?
Can you share your wallpaper?
x.com/artpaji?t=zFUTRdrxWJJW6a5d1U_6LQ&s=09
I then use upscaler to upscale it
how can you install Steam out of Flatpak
Do you mean the system package version of steam?
If so then
Enable rpm fusion steam repo in the discover store settings then search steam and choose the rpm version of steam and uninstall the flatpak version of steam
@@linuxnext thanks bro for the info have you try out PikaOS?
l want to use fedora but i'm not trusting redhat with the future.
Can we have a "Fedora-VR" gaming version? We have been Microshafted again.
I don't think you need that, to use VR you can use applications like alvr etc
lvra.gitlab.io/docs/steamvr/quick-start/
What's your de?
KDE plasma
I have always gone back to Fedora, every time.
Good content for my intro to F, well a good product from a "villian". I suppose there are many junk products from "good" orgs.
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also, thanks for this. I didn't really watch far in I'm at like 2:47 but this is the reason I decided f*ck it. I'm gonna run Fedora now.
awesome vid
Is that Skiff between Spotify and OBS? I didn't think they had a linux client yet.
Came out very recently but it works :)
flathub.org/apps/com.fyralabs.SkiffDesktop
I think its unofficial tho
This is why I like Nobara
True i used nobara for half of the year as it includes everything for you oit of the box :)
You can remove Discover and use terminal or Dragora.
Pretty sure discover is part of the kde plasma desktop group so i wouldnt be able too
@@linuxnext I used KDE spin and removed Discover because i did not like updates through it, so you can do it for sure, doing update trough terminal, Dragora or Discover are the same. If you miss it, you can install it back. I like terminal and Dragora. I did it on Fedora 38 and im pretty sure its still the same at 39.
Oh ok 🧐
@@linuxnext I just tried installing Dragora and removing Discover through Dragora (just the main one) on Fedora KDE 39 live and its working. :D
Fedora was my first choice since i moved from win 11..but i had expirienced issues due to nvidia graphic drivers, and gui crashed several times..it is not good for my hardware. so i moved to debian 12 and havent had any issue since. But for those fedora works i am glad:D i wasnt that lucky with it.
I would have switched to x11 and then half the problems would have gone away with nvidia as fedora defaults to wayland
@@linuxnext i tried that i did a lot of stuff in order to make driver work.. gnome crashing was gone but flickering was still present. I also updated BIOS and installed aditional Nvidia packages but still.. problem is in Nvidia 535- newer drivers. On Debian i am using 525. Maybe if i ever return to Fedora again ill try to set that driver instead. But i heard from some People that they dont have any issues with newer drivers.. also many complain for the same reason Like i do xd.
@@matijacizmar9372hey buddy, how was ur experience with debian 12 ???
I've got it installed on a laptop with an Nvidia GPU and had to install the non free repos in order to use the propitiatory drivers. There are talks that the Nouveau drivers (free) will be much better in upcoming releases as NVidia are being more open with their drivers. For now, just use the propitiatory drivers if you return.
@@peterschmidt9942 Nvidia drivers for Linux gives better performanse but Linux dosent love Nvidia:) if you find one version od driver that Works without issues stick to it. Its not a Fedora fault or any other distro.. but Nvidias fault. Radeon Works perfectly on every distro..so i heard.. Open source drivers can be stable but performance Will be worse. So in my opinion either to use radeon or stick to specific version of Nvidia driver which Works..and never Go for a newer version of driver...well only if you have hardware up to date
What desktop environment are you using?
Plasma 6
@@linuxnext you upgrade to plasma 6 or install plasma 6
Hello! If I install Nobara 39 which is a Fedora flavor for gaming...is it going to be updated as the main Fedora ?
Thx
Nobara has their own repos, but they update at nearly the same frequency as fedora, they use some newer packages so like nobara 40 wont come out for a couple weeks from now
why is spongebob slowly walking in the background music?
Idk 😭😭
Fedora isn't bleeding edge distro.
It's leading edge distro
You can have it buddy, after years of running MX-Linux I installed Linux Fedora yesterday. It could not even find my WiFi card, Wifi dongle or ethernet card. I spent all day today getting windows back on the pc so I could at least have wifi and download MX-Linux again, cuz Fedora couldn't find my USB slots....!
Fedora doesnt like to have proprietary drivers preinstalled so thats probs why it didnt work, if you want fedora use nobara
Thats one of the great things about linux is each distro likes to provide what it wants so if it doesnt work for you, you can easily try something else
I dont understand why you would put that music behind. I someone is bored he wouldn't have watched the video anyway. We just want to listen to you, not the music.
Lol, other people have said this, i dont put background music in anymore
ulala what is that font in the task bar
Its the default font in kde plasma but bold lol, i forgot the name 😂
noto sans bold
oh really, it looks so much better in bold haha@@linuxnext
I cant use arch btw
Fedora or Nobara project?
Nobara if you're new to linux, fedora if you know how to set up fedora already or want to challenge yourself a bit
@@linuxnext thanks for the advice for I really appreciate it
Fedora is the only Linux that has the essential (for me with my extremely low eyesight and low mobility) external display brightness tray icon. Unfortunately, that only controls brightness, not contrast, which constantly resets back up to 33% or so.
Fedora supports Plasma 6.1.1, which is great. However, it refuses to scale non-KDE programs properly. I also have to install Snaps capability and use both for some programs.
I think it's very sad that Linux desktop has split into 2 versions: Snaps/Flatpaks, rather than just applying some freaking discipline around dependencies. Windows solved this so long ago, and it kills me that the Linux community has to resort to technologies designed for mobile apps, then does to in a way that splits the community into two for no good reason.
The vast majority of distro use Snaps, sure, since they're much more lightweight and geared toward app installation (like Microsoft's much superior APPX packages). But still, foolish holdouts like Fedora keep Flatpack alive.
what apps dont scale properly on kde plasma? are you using wayland also?
uuuh snaps is used more in linux????? no its not lol
fedora, arch/arch based, opensuse tumbleweed, ubuntu based distros like linux mint, pop os, kde neon and plenty more all use flatpak lol
no one in the linux community likes snaps because canonical decisions being proprietary with snaps and malware getting into there store pretty frequently because they didnt have people checking or approving packages + them forcing it on ubuntu based distros which is fine because thats there distro, oh and also when you compare speeds sometimes snaps is slower
but saying snaps is more popular is just wrong lol
whats so bad about flatpak exactly? and whats apps do you need that arent system packages or available under flatpak?
@@linuxnext Every distro I've tried in the last 2 months except Redhat derived distros like Fedora, use snaps. I believe Arch uses none of the above, which is my preference.
VLC and Brave don't scale properly. Even Firefox doesn't scale as much as it should. Brave doesn't even obey the mouse cursor size, still, after this was reported ~4 years ago.
@@Christobanistan ok i see so why dont you like flatpak exactly? is it its privacy friendly permissions that are setup, how it updates, how packages are used in the containerized environment? cause to me these are positives
well scaling under garuda on wayland plasma 6.1.1 with legacy x11 apps, apply scaling themselves, works properly with vlc at 125% or 150% scaling, and brave also is working correctly when being scaled for me, these are through flatpak aswell, doesnt look blurry at all
@@linuxnext Containers are very heavyweight and slow by comparison. They result in lots of memory use since the OS can't reuse shared libraries (it's like every app was statically linked). The security model is also too restrictive so many apps which need to access system libraries can't do so without weird hacks that break easily. Flatpak came first, and therefore got some traction, but containers were kind of the 'fad' at the time, and unfortunately got used when they were a very poor fit, and survive now mainly due to momentum. This is just scratching the surface.
Snaps and Windows APPX packages solve these issues with a custom implementation that does everything via OS features. Isolation is just as complete, but it's just way easier to implement what you need.
Fedora is like Windows Home but Pwned by Redhell. As Redhat are now owned by IBM I'm sure this distro will eventually end up doing what most IBM software projects do.... end up on the scrap heap... highly opinionated... and worse... spreads their alpha software after "testing" upstream to their "enterprise" OS before it's ready or "prod". These guys are kidding if they think this is a successful business model... it's a VERY poor copy of Microsoft business model who are also in decline as an OS vendor. Did I mention Redhell are paywalled and they use a shit service manager? It's a shitty experience and the reason why other distros like Ubuntu appeared. There are much better distros that can do much more.