The pure preposterousness of the first ever concept of vote splitting against an idol coming not only from Cao Boi, but **from a fucking dream** is so fantastic. In another world, he told the right person the plan, made it far, and is a fan favorite (probably with an edit not highlighting the thing everyone else was annoyed with him for).
People we need back on Survivor for a returnee season: Devon, Chrissy, Christian Hubicki, Davey, Dominick, Angelina (for mostly entertainment reasons), Cydney
i also believe parvati uses the same tactic in Micronesia bc she knew both Cirie and Amanda would take her to the end, but if she won and voted them out, she would lose their vote - which worked bc she got Ciries vote in the end
I think Adam at the final 4 ( and others) immunity challenge should have been here, not caring who wins the challenge as long as it is not his target and actively helping his allies in the challenges
@@Peridiam Yo don't forget Hayley Leake when you inevitably do Part 2. You know how much you love to put in surprise appearances from Aussie Survivor :3
@@Peridiam Adam’s entire game is fascinating to dissect, he played such a strong game for the majority of it, but he also found himself in a spot where he could have lost to a few people in the final tribal, most notably David! Then for Adam to convince Ken and Hannah to vote David out after unsuccessfully doing so in the final 5 was fantastic playing on his part! I loved David but I tip my hat to Adam for how well he played in the endgame!
Sandra eating the sugar in Game Changers is another great defensive strategy. By doing that she switched JT’s mind into targeting Michaela instead of her. Really wish we could have seen more of her that season and in winners at war.
Very nice video indeed! One moment that I was waiting for that didn't come was Sandra bluffing to Russell in HvV that Coach regretted voting out Rob. Had she not done that, she likely would have been the last one voted out pre-Merge instead of eventually becoming the first 2-time winner.
There’s a chance coach goes there anyway. The heroes thought a women’s alliance was running the villains, and keeping coach might tip them off. Sending coach sells it to the heroes that Russell is in trouble and willing to give them the numbers.
Another S31 Jeremy moment that I have always found so lowkey yet SO smart: at the final five after Wentworth wins immunity, Jeremy knows he’s a target for Wentworth and Keith. He technically has the numbers, but if Keith were to pull out an idol, Jeremy knows he would be going home. So he tells Keith (who then tells Wentworth) that he’s voting for Spencer. In reality I don’t believe Jeremy ever considered voting for Spencer for a second. However, Just one subtle side convo was enough to make Keith and Wentworth put Spencer’s name down instead of Jeremy’s, which would’ve saved Jeremy’s life had Keith played an idol. I just think it’s a great, subtle move that clearly Spencer didn’t even think about - he was too focused on ensuring that his two allies didn’t flip, rather than bother to entertain the fact that Keith *might* have the idol and least pretend to work with Wentworth and Keith to ensure his safety. Which is what solidifies Jeremy as the clear winner imo.
Tbh Spencer should’ve flipped on Jeremy there, or even Tasha. Or at 6, both of them kind of blindly followed someone who was very obviously better respected than either of them, though I understand that they were probably scared of Wentworth’s threat level after all her big moves.
@@handsoaphandsoap I think neither Spencer nor Tasha had a good shot. They lose to Wentworth and Jeremy, and probably even Keith. Neither of them was partiularly respected by the jury and Keith, despite not being a great strategist, always seemed very well-liked and respected.
Michele voting for Julia in Kaoh Rong and placing herself as a number for the majority alliance carried her through a few rounds she might’ve otherwise gone out at and ultimately set her up to go on an immunity run and win. Underrated move by an underrated winner.
I love how you included Cao Boi as the first. I thought his move is underrated and almost forgotten but I always recognize this as the first split votes strategy. Also with Stacey's strategy.
Devin, Chrissy and Ryan being screwed over by production is something I will never let Survivor live down lmao. Ben woulda been an easy vote off and production was like nahhhhh
It wasn't rigged for Ben's favor, considering we've had duels before decide important moments in a season and even change the impact/winner of a season is enough of a reason for the producers to put it at the final 4 to potentially save a fan favorite from going on day 38, which is why we have a Final 3 now. I know you might not of physically said it was rigged, but I do think it's heavily implied that you think it is, which is false.
@@yellercat500cat7 "We've had duels before".... when the vote was tied. There was never going to be a tied vote for Ben. They didn't tell them ahead of time. I will say it: It was rigged.
@@4Tom4lepus4 it wasn't, if it was it would of left after Ghost Island as if it was set for Ben they might of tried of one more time and then let it die due to the negative outcry, but since is stayed we can deduce that it didn't go away, it was just a final 4 twist the producers had wanted to have a last chance for the "big threats". When I mean duels as in Adam Vs David, Tom Vs Ian, Jeremy Vs Kelley, Richard and Rudy Vs Kelly, Tai Vs the Final 3 of Game Changers, need I go on, Parv and Amanda Vs Cirie, Denise and Malcolm Vs the world, what more do I need to say almost all of these are duels the revolve around players where the Fan Favorite falls short mostly due to the actual winner's hands. Same reason we went to F3 in Cook Island, stop being bitter.
@@4Tom4lepus4 You say that but Probst loved both the Hourglass twist and the Do or Die and both went away after 42 despite his like for them. Also you completely ignore my argument from latter on in the comment. There's so much evidence that proves that they wanted a final 4 twist in the game after David went home in 33.
That move from Shan and Ricard is actually underrated. Maybe confusing at first, but actually brilliant if really understood. That's how survivor strategies actually evolved.
It’s great when explained but the show kind of failed in that regard. It was very unclear in the edit why they were doing what they were doing since we don’t get an explanation from either of them in the episode, probably due to the double tribal making it so they can’t explain everything (hence why they should either drop the split tribal twist or make that episode longer).
@@handsoaphandsoap I also think it was part in that they want to make the edit purposely vague on who's actually getting voted, so you won't know for sure going into tribal who they 100% plan to vote for. Unfortunately this editing causes confusion a lot because it sometimes seems like votes go certain ways for seemingly no reason.
@@ellen.13 True, though for this one they made it pretty clear it was Naseer so I feel they should've just edited it properly. The question mark was more about whether Naseer would use his idol or not, not where the votes would go. I also think they might've deliberately not shown too much of Shan and Ricard because they wanted to give us more of Erika and Heather there since Erika was the winner and this episode is basically the start of her rise to power, idk, the Survivor edit is a mysterious thing.
I thought that move was dumb considering there was absolutely no reason to keep Heather who was somebody who told Shan straight to her face it might flip on her, honestly looked more as a pro to Heather and Erika
A suggestion for a possible 2.0 vid: Caryn choosing Willard during the Palau schoolyeard pick. Had she picked Jonathan, she'd probably be the only Koror voted out premerge. Instead, she made F5.
Some of favorites are: Sandra telling Russell that Coach was gunning for him was a great defensive move. Now while it would have been Courtney going that night, there's a chance she goes the following night. By having her ally survive another night, she gave herself a way better shot at making the merge at which point she knew she would have way more room to play. JT protected his jury vote and reputation by not voting out Coach and instead making Stephen look like the bad guy for breaking his word. Cesternino in the Amazon getting Jenna and Heidi to vote out Christy was also a great move after Christy didn't commit to the plan. Jenna and Heidi were pissed at Rob and he was the likely target. Very possible Butch or Matt don't go to rocks for him or he finds himself in the minority since in that case there was a 2 in 3 chance one of his allies draws a purple rock. Similarly, Boston Rob targeted the swing vote on RI when he booted Matt at the merge. He knew in the event of a tie Zapatara was less likely to go to rocks for him. More importantly he recognized no one would see it coming or play an idol on Matt. Also very similar to Stacy targeting Egardo. We also have to mention Bob's fake idols. Doing so made Randy overconfident and intentionally goad people into voting for him as well as people telling Bob he would be safe. Another strategy I like is throwing an ally under the bus. Alex did so to Mookie by writing his name down because he knew the votes were split and by doing so he would give himself another 3 days. Another underrated move is by Chris D. in Vanuatu. I think many people remember after the girls betrayed him he told them he was disappointed and tugging at their heart strings to make them feel bad. Part of why it worked so well was it was his allies who really argued with the girls, putting the spotlight on themselves. Austin in Panama threw a challenge he knew he wouldn't win. He put on a good performance so others would catch on. Doing this he knew Terry or Nick would be the target. Now, I have no idea why he revealed this to everyone at tribal as it could have screwed him lol.
Alex did not vote for Mookie, it was Dreamz voting for Mookie. Alex, Mookie and Edgardo voted Cassandra. Dreamz voted Mookie for 3 reasons, first he was specifically angry with Mookie after he blew up at him on voting for Michelle the previous vote. Second although it showed he separated from the alliance it kept secret his involvement with the syndicate making sure it wasn't revealed he told the syndicate about the idol. And third if the plan failed and they somehow played the idol on Edgardo he could feign ignorance to Alex and Edgardo trying to pass his vote as some personal problem with Mookie, but still wanting to work with Edgardo and Alex.
@@ajl9772 I just realized we are talking about different episodes, I assumed the comment talked about the episode shown in the video, but I think you were really speaking of the next episode where Mookie went home, sorry my mistake.
I wanna mention the split vote between Shan & Liana that was made by Erika. I thought you would mention it but you didn’t, so yeah, I think that was one of the best moves of season 41. It was not flashy but it secured Erika as a strategic powerhouse and socially very strong as she got it all to work out just in case Shan used her idol.
@@JustinBOTC I don’t know if I can watch that season because I disagreed to great extent of who the winner was… loved much of the gameplay and strategy throughout but it was like 95% 3 players and the Erika gets all This credit for her one decent move and smashing an hourglass
There was a good idol defence in Australian Survivor Brains v Brawn final 5 when Flick (the only minority alliance member left) had an idol that no one knew about and knew that if everyone voted for her she would have the deciding vote. The majority 4 (George, Cara, Hailey and Wai) all decided they would put their votes on Flick. George knew that in the unlikely event Flick did have an idol that he would be the one she voted for, so he told Cara in secret that he was going to instead vote for Wai, meaning that no matter what happened he would be safe, as if Flick played an idol Wai would go home, and if she did not it would go to a tie vote sending Flick home. In the end Flick did have an idol and Wai went home.
One of my all time favourites was in Australian Survior: brains vs brawn when during a tribe swap Hayley (minority alliance of 2) told the majority alliance of 4, that she would use her idol as a blind 50/50 for her alliance at tribal. Which caused the majority to spilt, and then she never played the idol! Genius!
I don't know if you've watched Aus Survivor 2017 but a contestant pulled off an incredible defensive play to save themself at the Final 4. I'd also put Caryn picking Willard so she wouldn't be the first boot when Koror went to Tribal Council.
Defense does win championships! My favorites from this video are Cao Boi’s Plan Voodoo, Stacy hitting ‘em with Edgardo, and Natalie “accidentally” voting for Alec. I definitely thought with this video topic that you were going to segue into Noelle’s move recently where she stole an ally’s vote to trick the other side into not playing their advantages.
Cochran's entire gameplay revolved around defensive play in FvF2, Erika's gameplay also revolved somewhat around defense especially pre-merge but also near the end.
Jenna giving her immunity idol to Heidi. (That might have been the first time someone gave their individual immunity idol to other player) and it set Jenna up for the long game and her immunity streak
The new era is super defined by defensive moves imo, I think that there are arguments that both Erika and Maryanne had key moves like this that lead to their wins
Can wait for 2.0 of this series. I recommend Noelle in season 43 stealing Owen's vote, smoke screening the blind side on James, but telling James this is so Owen can't use his shot in the dark.
1. Yul is among the smartest people to ever play. If they ever did a repeat of "Brains, Brawn, Beauty" with returning players, I mean, he'd shape up well for ANY of those, but Brains, definitely. Damn. 2. Was that the birth of this strategy, or just a good play with it? 3. Ugh, and he just kept WINNING. Sigh...it's fine, he's fine. I just didn't want him to win that season. I wanted Devon. 4. Sigh, I loved Christian. Yet another Brains member, eh? Seriously, they should do another "BBB" where the Brains DON'T flop. I'll take Spencer and Tasha from that actual season and tribe, but throw in a little extra spice from other people. For reference, I care, because I'd be a Brain, for sure. I'm ugly, so not Beauty, and I'm five feet tall, soooo, not Brawn. I'd get slaughtered. 5. Much as I love MOST of the people on this cast, ahem, umm...can we NOT talk about this season...? 'Kay, thanks. I think it may have killed Survivor because of that asshole pervert, and no, I'm not censoring that. He WAS an asshole. 6. I'm NOT a fan of Richard. Didn't like him when I was eleven, and I don't like him now that I'm 32. But I have to admit, that was a brilliant move. 7. You would THINK this wouldn't work--and it wouldn't nowadays--because he was always so much better at playing it straight, but good thinking, Pirate. Still love ya. 8. Yeah, sorry, after seeing everything he's done, another candidate for Brains here. Alright, people, help me draw up a second "BBB" with your favourites. I seem to be covering all the Brains, but six people per tribe. 9. Oops...? XD Good move. "Oh, don't mind me, I'm just dumb." No you're freaking not. 10. Yeah, this strategy is notoriously good at working. I'd use it, because, as previously mentioned, five feet tall. Just find myself the biggest bear and snuggle up at night. Bam. Problem is, depending on who I'm playing with, I COULD be the smartest person out there. It's a good problem to have, but they'd figure it out, and my ass would be grass.
A friend of mine asked why I like to watch Survivor. It's a stupid reality Gilligan's Island. That's her quote not mine, she said this a couple of years ago. So.......yeah, she's has been living under a rock. This video is the reason that I like to watch it. The strategy, the psychology (which can be different), and the humanity (I can't tell you how many times I've cried watching survivor, the stories told, people giving up an idol or immunity for someone else). My three favorite idol plays was Wentworth, Parvati (playing for Jerri), and Amanda (the reason I like hers is the sing-song way she says she's got the idol and the twirling of it).
@@handsoaphandsoap didn't a lot of the jury kinda hate chrissy though ? she played well but i remember hearing she actually didn't have a great chance of getting enough votes for the w
@@uglyaniimals Maybe I mean idk, who's to say what would've happened. Maybe those last three hypothetical tribals would've been the deciding factors between them.
I have always called Devin's move a "sideswipe". Driving side by side with an ally, but in fear of an idol your can "sideswipe" the guy driving next to you this whole race. @Peridiam what do you think?
I know this is related to Rupert's fake idol but I thought it was a good move when Rupert and Colby knew the Villains would split the votes between some combination of those two and Candice so they both voted for Candice. Defensive because it didn't change the dynamics of the season but it bought them both more time.
If were gonna talk about some modern seasons and their defensive plays: In S43, we just saw Noelle pull off a blindside on James during the split merge twist, by stealing Owen's vote (the intended target) and turning it around and voting James out with the Knowledge is Power advantage in his pocket. S42 had Maryanne pull off the Omar blindside by using her extra vote on Omar as a way of ensuring that the frontrunner would go home and she would be in the best position to win. You could also say that her not telling anyone about her idol until the final tribal can be seen as a defensive play. In Aussie Survivor Brains vs Brawn, I remember Hayley and Dani pulled in their allies and worked together to get out Simon, who had 2 idols in his pockets.
I think another great defensive move was Wendell in Ghost Island turning Kellyn and Laurel against each other at the split tribal to create chaos and protect himself from the fact that Michael was gunning for him. I think it might be his defining move and it was incredible to watch in real time
The crazy part about Richard Hatch, and to be fair there are several crazy parts to him, is that at the end of the day, Hatch’s plan was never a full proof one! He made educated guesses about where he stood with the jury and how they would vote. While he was correct in all of his presumptions, you also know that there was always a chance Hatch was wrong and that he could have won had he won that final immunity challenge! It’s fascinating how strategic that move was to the point that Hatch decided his only winning path was throwing the challenge!
@Peridiam I just realized watching this that Kelly might have been able to make the same move Rich did at the final immunity. If she drops out and Rich drops out, Rudy takes Rich and beats him. So Rich has to stay in to beat Rudy and take Kelly and still hope to win on votes. If Kelly could have had Richs level 2 and pulled a level 3 there she might have a million. (i know it's a year late, w/e)
Rich was also in a Nash equilibrium, in that in didn't matter who won the challenge the outcome was the same for him - he was going to the finals. The fact that he didn't have to vote out Rudy probably did help.
Danni not telling producers her game so they don't hint at it to others during confessional chat is a good defensive move. Same season, Gary lying about his profession so as not to be targeted.
The problem I have with Tony's bluff is that it required Jeff to be in cahoots with him. In other seasons, Jeff clearly says, "Tonight is the last night you can play your idol." And somehow, in this season he forgot that line.
Hey Perd man, I think you got it mixed up during the Shan and Ricard but. I believe they put 2 on Heather and 1 on Naseer, to make it a tie. This was so they could easily vote Naseer on the re vote, and had Erika and Heather flipped like you said, they would still be safe.
I just watched Thailand Season 5 for the first time. For some reason this season made me want a top 10 starting camp grounds in survivor. In other words what tribes had the best starting living situations?
I feel like production helps players sometimes. Like ben’s luck was ridiculous. Dont get me wrong I understand he was probably really working hard to find them. And I do think ben was a pretty great player strategically his winning season. But 3 idols in a row?! And then the fire making?? Just seems too good to be true.
And not just 3 idols in a row where they were 3 day rounds, but 3 idols in a row with 24 hour rounds! That’s crazy. Like I feel like they made them too easy to find and knew he was going to be the one looking. Idk. It just felt fishy.
@@StarLord1994 please don't buy into that anyone could've found those idols Ben was just the only one who was motivated enough to find them they added fire making because when you look at the people who just miss out on the final 3 alot of them are people who probably would have won had they won the final challenge David from millennials vs gen I believe was the vote out where production decided that they wanted to make this rule change do I wish it was a thing? No but at the very least it's given us some crazy moments
Its been speculated that Chrissy could have actually beat Devon at ftc. Theres a whole thing on reddit about who votes who, and post season press showed that people on the jury were only high on Devon's game until after they left the island. Still not sure one way or the other, but the narrative that Devon definitely wins if he got to ftc is wrong.
I considered Rob asking Lex to save Amber as a defensive move. Specially when he followed up that move to vote Lex out. Guaranteeing a win for his future Wife and locking in second for himself.
Imagine if Jacqueline promised to Baylor, but instead voted for Natalie? Causing a 3(cancelled)-1-1 vote. Jacqueline gives Missy a chance to vote out Natalie on the Re-Vote. That would probably be the best tribal in terms of game move.
Although Amanda doesn’t really have any defensive strategic plays, she is one of the most defensive grandmasters of Survivor. She first received a vote that counted on her third season.
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The pure preposterousness of the first ever concept of vote splitting against an idol coming not only from Cao Boi, but **from a fucking dream** is so fantastic. In another world, he told the right person the plan, made it far, and is a fan favorite (probably with an edit not highlighting the thing everyone else was annoyed with him for).
I love that it came from credit cards 😂
I freakin loved Cao Boi… he was weird at times but seemed so genuine
A true game changer
Plan Voodoo!
Devon was such a good player, I’d like to see him back
People we need back on Survivor for a returnee season: Devon, Chrissy, Christian Hubicki, Davey, Dominick, Angelina (for mostly entertainment reasons), Cydney
@@TheLoserface45 mhm
@@TheLoserface45 don't forget abt omar and evvie !
All for a fire making
And he’s really handsome too 😍
The more you rewatch Natalie's Game, the more impressive it is. It might be the most impressive post merge game of all time.
Her end game is so unbelievable good
True but Sarah's Game Changers game exists 😅
She won because of one Jury speech.
true, I highly respect players who use idols in innovative ways than just playing it to save himself/herself aka Ben.
@@blarbkanopcious4243 wrong natalie bud
Richard’s step out was such a smart move and it’s especially ingenious since it was the first season
i also believe parvati uses the same tactic in Micronesia bc she knew both Cirie and Amanda would take her to the end, but if she won and voted them out, she would lose their vote - which worked bc she got Ciries vote in the end
I think Adam at the final 4 ( and others) immunity challenge should have been here, not caring who wins the challenge as long as it is not his target and actively helping his allies in the challenges
Yeah I was looking out for that one
Yep, Adam's endgame is full of defensive moves
@@Peridiam this man’s got a part two he’s a true TH-camr
@@Peridiam Yo don't forget Hayley Leake when you inevitably do Part 2. You know how much you love to put in surprise appearances from Aussie Survivor :3
@@Peridiam Adam’s entire game is fascinating to dissect, he played such a strong game for the majority of it, but he also found himself in a spot where he could have lost to a few people in the final tribal, most notably David!
Then for Adam to convince Ken and Hannah to vote David out after unsuccessfully doing so in the final 5 was fantastic playing on his part! I loved David but I tip my hat to Adam for how well he played in the endgame!
"I know exactly how they look in a pocket" is an iconic line.
Sandra eating the sugar in Game Changers is another great defensive strategy. By doing that she switched JT’s mind into targeting Michaela instead of her. Really wish we could have seen more of her that season and in winners at war.
And Sandra spilling the fish in Pearl Islands and shifting the target to Christa.
@@amberbrainwaves Or her mindfucking Russel to vote out Coach. She's really good at mind games lol.
Very nice video indeed!
One moment that I was waiting for that didn't come was Sandra bluffing to Russell in HvV that Coach regretted voting out Rob. Had she not done that, she likely would have been the last one voted out pre-Merge instead of eventually becoming the first 2-time winner.
There’s a chance coach goes there anyway. The heroes thought a women’s alliance was running the villains, and keeping coach might tip them off. Sending coach sells it to the heroes that Russell is in trouble and willing to give them the numbers.
Another S31 Jeremy moment that I have always found so lowkey yet SO smart: at the final five after Wentworth wins immunity, Jeremy knows he’s a target for Wentworth and Keith. He technically has the numbers, but if Keith were to pull out an idol, Jeremy knows he would be going home. So he tells Keith (who then tells Wentworth) that he’s voting for Spencer. In reality I don’t believe Jeremy ever considered voting for Spencer for a second. However, Just one subtle side convo was enough to make Keith and Wentworth put Spencer’s name down instead of Jeremy’s, which would’ve saved Jeremy’s life had Keith played an idol.
I just think it’s a great, subtle move that clearly Spencer didn’t even think about - he was too focused on ensuring that his two allies didn’t flip, rather than bother to entertain the fact that Keith *might* have the idol and least pretend to work with Wentworth and Keith to ensure his safety. Which is what solidifies Jeremy as the clear winner imo.
Tbh Spencer should’ve flipped on Jeremy there, or even Tasha. Or at 6, both of them kind of blindly followed someone who was very obviously better respected than either of them, though I understand that they were probably scared of Wentworth’s threat level after all her big moves.
@@handsoaphandsoap I think neither Spencer nor Tasha had a good shot. They lose to Wentworth and Jeremy, and probably even Keith. Neither of them was partiularly respected by the jury and Keith, despite not being a great strategist, always seemed very well-liked and respected.
Michele voting for Julia in Kaoh Rong and placing herself as a number for the majority alliance carried her through a few rounds she might’ve otherwise gone out at and ultimately set her up to go on an immunity run and win. Underrated move by an underrated winner.
100% agree. Not only did it secure herself for a couple rounds, but the jury respected that moved a lot!
*Underrated move by an underserving winner
@@blarbkanopcious4243 its 2023 how are you still this wrong
@@gentrum_6879 wdym?
Naw, anyone else would have won anyway. Scott and Jason tanked Aubreys game because they are the WORST players in Survivor history.
I love how you included Cao Boi as the first. I thought his move is underrated and almost forgotten but I always recognize this as the first split votes strategy. Also with Stacey's strategy.
Devin, Chrissy and Ryan being screwed over by production is something I will never let Survivor live down lmao. Ben woulda been an easy vote off and production was like nahhhhh
It wasn't rigged for Ben's favor, considering we've had duels before decide important moments in a season and even change the impact/winner of a season is enough of a reason for the producers to put it at the final 4 to potentially save a fan favorite from going on day 38, which is why we have a Final 3 now. I know you might not of physically said it was rigged, but I do think it's heavily implied that you think it is, which is false.
@@yellercat500cat7 "We've had duels before".... when the vote was tied. There was never going to be a tied vote for Ben. They didn't tell them ahead of time. I will say it: It was rigged.
@@4Tom4lepus4 it wasn't, if it was it would of left after Ghost Island as if it was set for Ben they might of tried of one more time and then let it die due to the negative outcry, but since is stayed we can deduce that it didn't go away, it was just a final 4 twist the producers had wanted to have a last chance for the "big threats". When I mean duels as in Adam Vs David, Tom Vs Ian, Jeremy Vs Kelley, Richard and Rudy Vs Kelly, Tai Vs the Final 3 of Game Changers, need I go on, Parv and Amanda Vs Cirie, Denise and Malcolm Vs the world, what more do I need to say almost all of these are duels the revolve around players where the Fan Favorite falls short mostly due to the actual winner's hands. Same reason we went to F3 in Cook Island, stop being bitter.
@@yellercat500cat7 I can't take you seriously if you write "it would of", so I'm just gonna stay bitter
@@4Tom4lepus4 You say that but Probst loved both the Hourglass twist and the Do or Die and both went away after 42 despite his like for them. Also you completely ignore my argument from latter on in the comment. There's so much evidence that proves that they wanted a final 4 twist in the game after David went home in 33.
The look on Edgardo's face is still one of my all time favorite moments of all time.
That move from Shan and Ricard is actually underrated. Maybe confusing at first, but actually brilliant if really understood. That's how survivor strategies actually evolved.
It’s great when explained but the show kind of failed in that regard. It was very unclear in the edit why they were doing what they were doing since we don’t get an explanation from either of them in the episode, probably due to the double tribal making it so they can’t explain everything (hence why they should either drop the split tribal twist or make that episode longer).
@@handsoaphandsoap I also think it was part in that they want to make the edit purposely vague on who's actually getting voted, so you won't know for sure going into tribal who they 100% plan to vote for. Unfortunately this editing causes confusion a lot because it sometimes seems like votes go certain ways for seemingly no reason.
@@ellen.13 True, though for this one they made it pretty clear it was Naseer so I feel they should've just edited it properly. The question mark was more about whether Naseer would use his idol or not, not where the votes would go. I also think they might've deliberately not shown too much of Shan and Ricard because they wanted to give us more of Erika and Heather there since Erika was the winner and this episode is basically the start of her rise to power, idk, the Survivor edit is a mysterious thing.
Ricard was a brilliant player, and with Shan he dominated that game right up to the final 5.
I thought that move was dumb considering there was absolutely no reason to keep Heather who was somebody who told Shan straight to her face it might flip on her, honestly looked more as a pro to Heather and Erika
A suggestion for a possible 2.0 vid: Caryn choosing Willard during the Palau schoolyeard pick. Had she picked Jonathan, she'd probably be the only Koror voted out premerge. Instead, she made F5.
Back when Caryn didn't suck:)
Alex voting for Mookie at F8 is the first one i thought about
Another great one!
Thinking of the game this way is so different, these moves are so cool.
The minority split on DvG is still my favourite moment in Survivor history. Really showed me everything the game had for strategy.
I did not expect for the song “extreme ways” to play in this video and I am very happy to hear it LMAO
Great video!
Stacy getting the credit she deserves for the Edgardo blindside!
Finally some love for Devon. One of my favourite players.
that Moby song from The Genius Game caught me offguard haha, nice editing
Some of favorites are:
Sandra telling Russell that Coach was gunning for him was a great defensive move. Now while it would have been Courtney going that night, there's a chance she goes the following night. By having her ally survive another night, she gave herself a way better shot at making the merge at which point she knew she would have way more room to play.
JT protected his jury vote and reputation by not voting out Coach and instead making Stephen look like the bad guy for breaking his word.
Cesternino in the Amazon getting Jenna and Heidi to vote out Christy was also a great move after Christy didn't commit to the plan. Jenna and Heidi were pissed at Rob and he was the likely target. Very possible Butch or Matt don't go to rocks for him or he finds himself in the minority since in that case there was a 2 in 3 chance one of his allies draws a purple rock.
Similarly, Boston Rob targeted the swing vote on RI when he booted Matt at the merge. He knew in the event of a tie Zapatara was less likely to go to rocks for him. More importantly he recognized no one would see it coming or play an idol on Matt. Also very similar to Stacy targeting Egardo.
We also have to mention Bob's fake idols. Doing so made Randy overconfident and intentionally goad people into voting for him as well as people telling Bob he would be safe.
Another strategy I like is throwing an ally under the bus. Alex did so to Mookie by writing his name down because he knew the votes were split and by doing so he would give himself another 3 days.
Another underrated move is by Chris D. in Vanuatu. I think many people remember after the girls betrayed him he told them he was disappointed and tugging at their heart strings to make them feel bad. Part of why it worked so well was it was his allies who really argued with the girls, putting the spotlight on themselves.
Austin in Panama threw a challenge he knew he wouldn't win. He put on a good performance so others would catch on. Doing this he knew Terry or Nick would be the target. Now, I have no idea why he revealed this to everyone at tribal as it could have screwed him lol.
Alex did not vote for Mookie, it was Dreamz voting for Mookie. Alex, Mookie and Edgardo voted Cassandra. Dreamz voted Mookie for 3 reasons, first he was specifically angry with Mookie after he blew up at him on voting for Michelle the previous vote. Second although it showed he separated from the alliance it kept secret his involvement with the syndicate making sure it wasn't revealed he told the syndicate about the idol. And third if the plan failed and they somehow played the idol on Edgardo he could feign ignorance to Alex and Edgardo trying to pass his vote as some personal problem with Mookie, but still wanting to work with Edgardo and Alex.
@@TheMattHardyFan21 Alex 100% voted for Mookie. Look it up. It's why Earl was so mad they split the vote because he wanted Alex out.
@@ajl9772 I just realized we are talking about different episodes, I assumed the comment talked about the episode shown in the video, but I think you were really speaking of the next episode where Mookie went home, sorry my mistake.
@@TheMattHardyFan21 I was wondering if that was case lol
the way Xander Tiffany and Evvie protected themselves from the Knowledge is Power is a really good defensive move
I wanna mention the split vote between Shan & Liana that was made by Erika. I thought you would mention it but you didn’t, so yeah, I think that was one of the best moves of season 41. It was not flashy but it secured Erika as a strategic powerhouse and socially very strong as she got it all to work out just in case Shan used her idol.
S41 is underrated, particularly from a gameplay perspective. I think a couple years down the line people are going to come around on this season.
I just kind of haven’t found any seasons to be good after Cagayan
@@duffal0 david vs goliath?
@@duffal0 i loved kaoh rong, game changers, david vs goliath, waw, 41 and 42 lol
@@JustinBOTC I don’t know if I can watch that season because I disagreed to great extent of who the winner was… loved much of the gameplay and strategy throughout but it was like 95% 3 players and the Erika gets all This credit for her one decent move and smashing an hourglass
Great video I love seeing the different strategies used in survivor
Your channel is my favourite Survivor channel. Very entertaining to watch after a long day at work
I wanna see Peridiam on Survivor. He'd be a mastermind and probably pull off some pretty crazy awesome moves with how much he studies the show.
Wonder how he'd do
There was a good idol defence in Australian Survivor Brains v Brawn final 5 when Flick (the only minority alliance member left) had an idol that no one knew about and knew that if everyone voted for her she would have the deciding vote. The majority 4 (George, Cara, Hailey and Wai) all decided they would put their votes on Flick. George knew that in the unlikely event Flick did have an idol that he would be the one she voted for, so he told Cara in secret that he was going to instead vote for Wai, meaning that no matter what happened he would be safe, as if Flick played an idol Wai would go home, and if she did not it would go to a tie vote sending Flick home. In the end Flick did have an idol and Wai went home.
One of my all time favourites was in Australian Survior: brains vs brawn when during a tribe swap Hayley (minority alliance of 2) told the majority alliance of 4, that she would use her idol as a blind 50/50 for her alliance at tribal. Which caused the majority to spilt, and then she never played the idol! Genius!
I don't know if you've watched Aus Survivor 2017 but a contestant pulled off an incredible defensive play to save themself at the Final 4.
I'd also put Caryn picking Willard so she wouldn't be the first boot when Koror went to Tribal Council.
Defense does win championships! My favorites from this video are Cao Boi’s Plan Voodoo, Stacy hitting ‘em with Edgardo, and Natalie “accidentally” voting for Alec. I definitely thought with this video topic that you were going to segue into Noelle’s move recently where she stole an ally’s vote to trick the other side into not playing their advantages.
Cochran's entire gameplay revolved around defensive play in FvF2, Erika's gameplay also revolved somewhat around defense especially pre-merge but also near the end.
Jenna giving her immunity idol to Heidi. (That might have been the first time someone gave their individual immunity idol to other player) and it set Jenna up for the long game and her immunity streak
The new era is super defined by defensive moves imo, I think that there are arguments that both Erika and Maryanne had key moves like this that lead to their wins
Can wait for 2.0 of this series. I recommend Noelle in season 43 stealing Owen's vote, smoke screening the blind side on James, but telling James this is so Owen can't use his shot in the dark.
Defense wins championships.
- Brett W. Robinson 2018or
Just own it.
- Brett W. Robinson
The fact that Davie is from Orangeburg, brings me joy because I’m from there too and he’s one of my favorite one time players ever.
9:15 we see evidence that the greatest currency in survivors is not fire tokens, it is in fact…. JACKETS
1. Yul is among the smartest people to ever play. If they ever did a repeat of "Brains, Brawn, Beauty" with returning players, I mean, he'd shape up well for ANY of those, but Brains, definitely. Damn.
2. Was that the birth of this strategy, or just a good play with it?
3. Ugh, and he just kept WINNING. Sigh...it's fine, he's fine. I just didn't want him to win that season. I wanted Devon.
4. Sigh, I loved Christian. Yet another Brains member, eh? Seriously, they should do another "BBB" where the Brains DON'T flop. I'll take Spencer and Tasha from that actual season and tribe, but throw in a little extra spice from other people. For reference, I care, because I'd be a Brain, for sure. I'm ugly, so not Beauty, and I'm five feet tall, soooo, not Brawn. I'd get slaughtered.
5. Much as I love MOST of the people on this cast, ahem, umm...can we NOT talk about this season...? 'Kay, thanks. I think it may have killed Survivor because of that asshole pervert, and no, I'm not censoring that. He WAS an asshole.
6. I'm NOT a fan of Richard. Didn't like him when I was eleven, and I don't like him now that I'm 32. But I have to admit, that was a brilliant move.
7. You would THINK this wouldn't work--and it wouldn't nowadays--because he was always so much better at playing it straight, but good thinking, Pirate. Still love ya.
8. Yeah, sorry, after seeing everything he's done, another candidate for Brains here. Alright, people, help me draw up a second "BBB" with your favourites. I seem to be covering all the Brains, but six people per tribe.
9. Oops...? XD Good move. "Oh, don't mind me, I'm just dumb." No you're freaking not.
10. Yeah, this strategy is notoriously good at working. I'd use it, because, as previously mentioned, five feet tall. Just find myself the biggest bear and snuggle up at night. Bam. Problem is, depending on who I'm playing with, I COULD be the smartest person out there. It's a good problem to have, but they'd figure it out, and my ass would be grass.
Who's an asshole pervert?
your channel and videos are breathtaking. keep up the great job (y)
3:30 Somebody's watched The Genius, big props
Devon is super underrated and I hope he comes back for an all star season.
A friend of mine asked why I like to watch Survivor. It's a stupid reality Gilligan's Island. That's her quote not mine, she said this a couple of years ago. So.......yeah, she's has been living under a rock. This video is the reason that I like to watch it. The strategy, the psychology (which can be different), and the humanity (I can't tell you how many times I've cried watching survivor, the stories told, people giving up an idol or immunity for someone else). My three favorite idol plays was Wentworth, Parvati (playing for Jerri), and Amanda (the reason I like hers is the sing-song way she says she's got the idol and the twirling of it).
Imagine if it was Chrissy, Ryan, and doctor mike as the final 3 💀
any idea who wins that ? i genuinely have no idea lmao
@@uglyaniimals I'd guess Chrissy.
Chrissy probably takes it, the jury would’ve been less heated towards her if they go into tribal not already predisposed to vote for Ben.
@@handsoaphandsoap didn't a lot of the jury kinda hate chrissy though ? she played well but i remember hearing she actually didn't have a great chance of getting enough votes for the w
@@uglyaniimals Maybe I mean idk, who's to say what would've happened. Maybe those last three hypothetical tribals would've been the deciding factors between them.
I have always called Devin's move a "sideswipe". Driving side by side with an ally, but in fear of an idol your can "sideswipe" the guy driving next to you this whole race. @Peridiam what do you think?
The greatest solutions really are often the simplest ones
Vecepias move in the final 4 and 3 were great defensive plays
Great video, P. I’d love if this turned into a Challenge Hacks-type series.
I know this is related to Rupert's fake idol but I thought it was a good move when Rupert and Colby knew the Villains would split the votes between some combination of those two and Candice so they both voted for Candice. Defensive because it didn't change the dynamics of the season but it bought them both more time.
David building a fake idol in the Aussie all stars season was amazing!
Great content! Can't wait for part 2 please 💯
If were gonna talk about some modern seasons and their defensive plays:
In S43, we just saw Noelle pull off a blindside on James during the split merge twist, by stealing Owen's vote (the intended target) and turning it around and voting James out with the Knowledge is Power advantage in his pocket.
S42 had Maryanne pull off the Omar blindside by using her extra vote on Omar as a way of ensuring that the frontrunner would go home and she would be in the best position to win. You could also say that her not telling anyone about her idol until the final tribal can be seen as a defensive play.
In Aussie Survivor Brains vs Brawn, I remember Hayley and Dani pulled in their allies and worked together to get out Simon, who had 2 idols in his pockets.
Fantastic video mate!
Cao Boi was so intelligent it was a shame the edit kinda did him dirty
If he made it far he would've gotten a better edit but he was very entertaining for the little we saw him
I think another great defensive move was Wendell in Ghost Island turning Kellyn and Laurel against each other at the split tribal to create chaos and protect himself from the fact that Michael was gunning for him. I think it might be his defining move and it was incredible to watch in real time
How about Parvati punting finding the idol on exile island and the challenge so Amanda would vote out Cirie
Hayley’s Rock Paper Scissors strat on survivor au was a great defensive move that ultimately saved all the brains on her tribe
Also how she handled the Final 4 round, getting a duo to turn on each other.
Xander countering Liana's Knowledge is Power in 41
He didn’t come up with that plan
Thank you for posting the video. Play the hidden immunity idol correctly. Got to love it.
cerie's jedi mind trick is the best
The crazy part about Richard Hatch, and to be fair there are several crazy parts to him, is that at the end of the day, Hatch’s plan was never a full proof one! He made educated guesses about where he stood with the jury and how they would vote. While he was correct in all of his presumptions, you also know that there was always a chance Hatch was wrong and that he could have won had he won that final immunity challenge! It’s fascinating how strategic that move was to the point that Hatch decided his only winning path was throwing the challenge!
The Extreme Ways genius reference with Yul is so clever because of Yul's Korean Heritage, aha.
You really just capitalized on the algorithm lol. People are getting sick of idol videos, this video is perfect.
@Peridiam I just realized watching this that Kelly might have been able to make the same move Rich did at the final immunity.
If she drops out and Rich drops out, Rudy takes Rich and beats him. So Rich has to stay in to beat Rudy and take Kelly and still hope to win on votes.
If Kelly could have had Richs level 2 and pulled a level 3 there she might have a million.
(i know it's a year late, w/e)
throwing the final challenge was the best for me
Like how the video started with Yul in a positive(?) outlook, then ended in a negative(?) outlook (idk how to describe it, but it’s interesting to me)
Rich was also in a Nash equilibrium, in that in didn't matter who won the challenge the outcome was the same for him - he was going to the finals. The fact that he didn't have to vote out Rudy probably did help.
great video, as always!
Danni not telling producers her game so they don't hint at it to others during confessional chat is a good defensive move. Same season, Gary lying about his profession so as not to be targeted.
Sandra convincing Russell that couch wants to betray him
Love the list! If I could chip in an honorable mention: David planting a fake idol for Jay to find so he would stop looking for the real one in 33!
i always felt so bad for john he was such a chill dude very likeable
The entire cast of One World could use the majority of all other casts as a “Nerd Shield.”
The problem I have with Tony's bluff is that it required Jeff to be in cahoots with him. In other seasons, Jeff clearly says, "Tonight is the last night you can play your idol." And somehow, in this season he forgot that line.
“I GOT HIS JACKET!!!”
Who knew cowboy invented splitting votes 😮
One of my favorite fake idol plays is when David from Survivor season 33 millennials versus Gen X plants of fake idol in order to have Jay find it
The minority split is one of my favorite moves ever
Hey Perd man, I think you got it mixed up during the Shan and Ricard but. I believe they put 2 on Heather and 1 on Naseer, to make it a tie. This was so they could easily vote Naseer on the re vote, and had Erika and Heather flipped like you said, they would still be safe.
The minority split vote is still one of the greatest moves of all time.
9:15, Jackets truly were MVP of David vs Goliath
Lowkey everyone forgets season 38’s great gameplay by rock devins, because the theme messed up the whole season
I just watched Thailand Season 5 for the first time. For some reason this season made me want a top 10 starting camp grounds in survivor. In other words what tribes had the best starting living situations?
Wow Peridigm. U win the splainy award! When are you playing?
I feel like production helps players sometimes. Like ben’s luck was ridiculous. Dont get me wrong I understand he was probably really working hard to find them. And I do think ben was a pretty great player strategically his winning season. But 3 idols in a row?! And then the fire making?? Just seems too good to be true.
And not just 3 idols in a row where they were 3 day rounds, but 3 idols in a row with 24 hour rounds! That’s crazy. Like I feel like they made them too easy to find and knew he was going to be the one looking. Idk. It just felt fishy.
@@StarLord1994 please don't buy into that anyone could've found those idols Ben was just the only one who was motivated enough to find them they added fire making because when you look at the people who just miss out on the final 3 alot of them are people who probably would have won had they won the final challenge David from millennials vs gen I believe was the vote out where production decided that they wanted to make this rule change do I wish it was a thing? No but at the very least it's given us some crazy moments
Its been speculated that Chrissy could have actually beat Devon at ftc. Theres a whole thing on reddit about who votes who, and post season press showed that people on the jury were only high on Devon's game until after they left the island. Still not sure one way or the other, but the narrative that Devon definitely wins if he got to ftc is wrong.
Man yul is such a fucking badass. Would love to grab a beer with that dude
I considered Rob asking Lex to save Amber as a defensive move. Specially when he followed up that move to vote Lex out. Guaranteeing a win for his future Wife and locking in second for himself.
Imagine if Jacqueline promised to Baylor, but instead voted for Natalie?
Causing a 3(cancelled)-1-1 vote.
Jacqueline gives Missy a chance to vote out Natalie on the Re-Vote.
That would probably be the best tribal in terms of game move.
"I got his Jacket" 🤣
Ugh I LOVE this play from Natalie!
I would put Maryanne's entire endgame plan here. The way she was set up for FTC no matter what.
Although Amanda doesn’t really have any defensive strategic plays, she is one of the most defensive grandmasters of Survivor.
She first received a vote that counted on her third season.
Don't tell me you watch the Genius too?!? Genius analysis videos when?!?!?
What's that song at the start of Yul's admission at 3:35?
Maturing is realizing that Devon should’ve won over Ben
Do you watch The Genius ? If so will you make a video about it ?
Yeah, I watched it years ago. I’ve always wanted to make a video but have yet to get around to it.
For the international survivor fans: honorable mention to Hayley's move against Simon and Dani
Simon going home with two hidden immunity idols in his pocket.
@@teamsteed1 and Hayley ensuring that if he played one she and her allies would be safe. Legendary
@@JakeSuperb Yep.
Now we can add another one