One of my biggest issues is that Math NEVER takes accountability for his actions. I understand that he is the boss, but bosses make mistakes, and they acknowledge those mistakes; he doesn't.
You don’t understand being a boss vs a employee..Trump is an asshole but he’s very good at business and loopholes ..if you never owned a business or been a boss you can’t relate. Yall are more concerned about his “attitude “ or demeanor “ lol that comes with the game
@@honorableadrian1818 but...when it's always ''other people's fault" than it's no longer bussines...but rather narcissism. the moment it becomes pathological...you now start to harm others, it be physically of emotionally
But was this a "job" or was it a partnership between all parties who brought something to the table?..in that aspect it wasn't them "watching his money" it was them watching him covet the bag all to himself
Bro it sound their wasn’t a fixed rate of payment in place and that’s a problem, if everyone is gettin $10k a month for ex, then I don’t think it would be a problem like this.
So he walked in not looking fly, and your first start was to take that grown man shopping, just pay him more money and he can shop for clothes for himself. I got a homie who bread is low but when we go out and party I give him money on the low so he can feel like a man and he can spend the bread how he wants. I would never offer to buy him clothes or sneaks. Come on Math
U cld give him money & they dont spend it on clothes for the show. Some ppl have no swag. Also Math ain't giving u money bt he'll take u out to restaurant lol
This guy here smh remember that url event in Texas and math was selling cds for 10 dollars and the kid gave him a 20 and he kept the whole 20 and the kid exposed him…That tells you everything you need to know.
Honestly I don't know what the hell is going on 🤣🤣 I been listening to this back and forth sh*t for a year and still don't know who is telling the truth - half of it sounds like a misunderstanding - jealousy is part of it - and not being loyal is the rest - this is some Young And The Restless, As The World Turns, Guiding Light sh*t
math said he only shoots 3 hours out of the day n work 2 days out the week.. Whatever they do with their free time to make money is on them.. same breath, “why is they still shooting bag talk?”😂
What part of we agreed they would stop bagfuel don’t y’all understand? It was part of our agreement. Check their channel they stopped for 6 months… what is so hard to understand???
Lesson: Learn how to run a business. Learn how to pay people. Learn payroll. Do not pay people out of pocket or cash app or zelle. Payroll and contracts. Learn professionalism. All these podcast that break up over money and communication have 2 things in common. One of those things is professionalism which includes contracts and pay. The other thing is …….
Factz! I would have not done anywork on that show without a contract, that would give me equity in the show, incentives and protection from any unprofessional bullshit. The problem is with our culture is we think it's just a favor just to pay someone for doing work. Pay people what you owe and what they are worth. Ontop of that all these platforms in entertainment all start out with the homeboy business model, which never works out in the long run. Where you work for your friend for free or a small amount of per diem . You just want to see your friend get an opportunity because he is like family. Your friend appreciates it until he finally starts to get traction and gets a big check for the work everyone put into the product, that he owns. He gets recognition but also the people around him gets recognition that sometimes exceeds what the owner gets. People get insecure and greedy, Then he doesn't want to pay what you're really worth. Your friend doesn't tell you up front that he doesn't want to pay you so he does or says little petty things to justify why you shouldn't be paid what you are worth, or starts to put restriction on what you do outside of the business to earn income. Once he see's there's a resistance from you then arguments occur, communication break downs and then all of a sudden you're the one getting kick off the show after you put sweat equity into it. These co-hosts on these show's say they are bosses but they don't act like bosses. Either you want to get paid for your services or just sit at the barbershop and talk your shit and not get paid. Make a choice however realize it comes with sacrifice. Math Hoffa is not going to let anyone get bigger than him on his platform nor is he going to want to pay someone so much that they have too much leverage.
Paying Bigga to his security business and paying him to be on show is two different things. Regardless how he runs his business you cant run your business like his
@@Rexaaay regardless of what he said, once he sat down and spoke he became a host. His secruity business is not the same as a host on a podcast. Bigga is a business owner who is also an employee of math. Math saw him as an employee that's why he paid him. He can't pay him for secruity and a host with the same check/ money. Gotta keep them separate unless their is a contract
What went wrong on everybody’s end was everyone was afraid they might get it fucked over so they try to be a step ahead, but it backfired. If everyone was transparent about what they’re doing or how they was feeling about certain situations I think the business could’ve kept going
As a Filmer and Cinematographer , people often take advantage of us and believe we should work for free in the building stages , eventually it gets old . HE ADMITTED TO NOT PAYING HIM . Him charging him 100k for the RAW footage (he can say equipment) is not extortion . HES CHARGING YOU FOR THE INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY HE OWNS .
Facts. 98% of these dudes don’t even know what we go through but they believe these story teller all day. Nigga pull up the contract, name a number. He didn’t sign a nda for this I bet, so show the real. Also, Bigga made the right move and they chillin over there. Math big funny.
My first time here and just the fact that you're rolling up interviewing this is raw and straight to the point just like a convo between two homies I love it
One thing I’ve learned in owning a couple of trucks is, friends and money don’t mix. Being a business owner is hard, especially if it’s friends involved.
I disagree. The two should be separate and if you are going to hire a friend the boundaries have to be set from the jump. Our friendship doesn’t end if our business relationship doesn’t work. You have to be completely transparent if you are hiring a friend and let them know what is going on. So you have the communication and understanding. Also a friend should never get mad about business
In my opinion I felt his former co workers was pocket watching Math instead of trying to renegotiate numbers and figure out a solution that works best for all parties
There was never a problem taking your niggas or a friend shopping till fifty said that about diddy stfu ain’t nothing wrong with that. Have a mind of your own
What made it worse is that in the episode where Vlad came back the second time, the expensive security guard Bigga hired FELL ASLEEP, and Vlad himself caught him on camera and called him out 😂, they didn’t edit it out the interview or anything lol
As a black business owner & son of a entrepreneur I understand maths perspective..My pops always gave my game about how your own friends & ppl that you call bro will always be noisy in your business..want to know how much you make or try to sabotage your business because they are jealous or hating..I stand with math 💯💯💯
At the end of the day, Math is the leader. The buck stops with the leader. The boss gets celebrated when shit works, the boss is responsible when it don't. Math keeps having the same problem with quality employees. He is responsible.
To me this entire problem began when a working relationship starts with friends just hanging out and one dude seeing the bigger picture and getting the others involved for free (" Let's do this! We partners bro!!! that kind of talk is all at the begining) !! This dude didn't make it crystal clear to everyone how big this was gonna get..., so then when it does blow up, people like this guy start moving away from that group that worked for far less than they were worth. If he REALLY wanted to keep the team together he would of pushed for them to understand, but this guy is very competitive so he let them figure it out for themselves. A true boss is like a father to his workers and doesn't call workers his friends. Fathers do the right thing even when the kid doesn't think so or does some stupid ish. Then there is the thing about not wanting to owe anyone after they help you under a loose agreement. He knows all these people well enough to know how it would go- this is where this guy loses me completely- Enjoy the view from the top brother!
Ppl talking about "men shouldn't be watching other men's money." But "watching the money" is an essential part of contract negotiations. You shouldn't be ENVIOUS or COVETOUS, but you should be aware if you're helping to generate that money. Also, IMO, if they wanted to do Bag Fuel in addition to your pod, it shouldn't have been an issue. It's like telling someone if you work for me you can't create your own business on the side. That's not right. He just wanted them to build his house but neglect their own. I will say that if you're not a partner on paper in the Podcast you shouldn't be expecting Partner money.
I fuck with Math heavy but as the Boss, he should know exactly what he paid Bigga off the top of his head- One number for Security. Another number for being a host of the Show.
FACTS PAYING BIGGA FOR SECURITY SERVICE AND WHAT YOU PAY HIM AS BEING A CO-HOST SHOULD NEVER INTERTWINE.. HIS SECURITY BUSINESS IS ONE THING AND WHAT HE DOES ON THE SHOW IS ANOTHER THING.. NOW THE ONLY THING I WILL GIVE MATH CREDIT ON IS THAT BIGGA DIDNT REALLY TALK LIKE THAT MOST OF THE TIME SO HE SHOULD OF JUST SAID HEY BIGGA I SEE U NOT REALLY INTERESTED IN BEING ON THE SHOW AS A CO-HOST SO HOW ABOUT I JUST PAY YOU FOR YOUR SECURITY SERVICES AND YOUR NO LONGER OBLIGATED TO TALK IF YOU DONT WANT TO ON THE SHOW.. YOU COOLD STILL SIT ON ON THE SHOW, YOU CAN ALSO SAY SOMETHING IF YOU CHOOSE TO BUT YOU DONT HAVE TO IF YOU DONT WANT TO.. THATS WHAT THE CONVERSATION SHOULD OF BEEN BUT NAH MATH WAS TRYNNA GET TWO THINGS FOR THE PRICE OF ONE A CO-HOST, & SECURITY LOL😂😂😂
Y’all thinking naively. #1 he prolly didn’t wanna disclose the amount. As a boss you have to know when to hold ya tongue you can’t say too much. If he did disclose the amount the next person he’s hiring would know how much bigga was getting paid. Come on, Hoffa gotta play his cards correctly. Everybody wanna talk like a boss but don’t know how to be one. Hoffa knew what he was doing here.
#2 As a boss especially in the business Hoffa is in. He’s paying a lot of ppl. people y’all don’t even see in the shop. If he can’t rm what he paid bigga off the top & has to go look for the exacts ion see nun wrong w that
its hillarious how he switched the topic from pretending he had receipts to trying to tarnish biggas business by making it look shady. Thats literally how all temp / employment agencies work
Bigga being mad at Loon is wild that man did mad time and turned his life around if Bigga felt some type of way he should’ve addressed it like a man he preaches peace and god but can’t peace it up with a dude who spent decades in prison? If that’s a true story I’m disappointed in Bigga, Loon is one of the good ones.
Math said some Real shit about keeping a job.....just keep people comfortable because i fukk up often at work but get many breaks...because everyone loves me....Real Talk.....thats me
Damn math that's real spill, long as people like you at the job you don't have to shit really, long as the right people like having you around.. I see it at my job everyday
Asian dude need to improve his interviewing skills. He interrupting Math in the middle of important points, rolling weed--not looking at his guest when the guest is being emotionally vulnerable. Math, this was a terrible idea. You should have given a smaller channel like 10ToesDown TV a chance.
That's the problem with these blunt rolling or drinking podcasts, they lack focus! And now everyone wants to hate on Shay Shay when he listens to his guests and keeps focused.
@@TheBulletzgottishow20how do you know? You’re not dealing with these folks. You saying nah like you know 100% for sure what the deal is. You’re just a spectator holmes
This looks like a case of "Homeboy Entertainment" a economic syndrome that allows "friends" to be entitled or feel entitled when the money starts coming in. Math should get a financial advisor to be a "liaison" with his future employees where they don't need to go directly to him. Because it seems that it is too much of a headache as he states in the interview. Bottom-line if Bigga provided security he should get paid because that is his company's income and it can be distributed how both party's feel fit. Math shouldn't talked Bigga's business tactics because that can lead to a lawsuit for "defamation" towards his company and that is a serious allegation I'm surprised Math spoke about that. Math has a lot of potential I feel he needs a better business staff around him to advise him that its "Business" not "Personal". Great content wish everybody blessings!!
I like how u counter his points real journalism bro u did homework on him so when he said something u were able to hit back with knowledge of the subject
I blame the pandemic…Because it gave employees the opportunity to want to be bosses..brown nosing..not understanding business ethics & economics..Math was blessed by god to be a boss ..His ppl have shows and are not doing numbers..so that lets you know math is handling his situation correctly 💯💯 I stand with his on business..Blessings!!
You are dead on about your assessment. When you said, “It gave employees the opportunity to want to be bosses…brown nosing..not understanding business ethics & economics”. Yeah for some employees out there to be able to transition in leadership. But they have to work like hell to sustained that position. Peace bruh, stay grinding! 🫵🏿🫡💯
Did he clear it up or did he deflect and not take any kinda accountability for all these hosts leaving his show. He is obviously the problem in all these situations. He the only common denominator 🤦🏾♂️
he didn't clear everything FOOLISH ONE. he just gave the other side. Too many men like yourself with women tendencies How you favor math story over bigga is dumb
1) There is a disagreement with paying Bigga/his company for security. Bigga sees that as being separate from beeing on the show and Math sees it differently. 2) Math sees access, gifts, bonuses, favors etc as payment, but most of the other hosts havw seen it differently. A lot of this seems to be apart of learning things on the fly as things are taking off.
Some of you in the comments cannot are not bosses and can never fathom from the perspective of a leader or boss.. I feel you Math. Time tells all. Respect to dude for asking the right questions. 💯
@@kenroydaly8608I think so. I think it was too much ego. For everyone involved. I think that the pod peaked and Money went up. They had a contract and math obligations to that contract was up held. But they always talk about bad deals on the pod so of course Mfers felt some type of way. They could have renegotiated the deal. Math could have said look we up right now I’ll give yall a bonus until it time to re-up appease everyone for a bit then when it’s time we cut ties.
too much ego, and the end of the day they were 4 catz that could be replaced Bigga hardly spoke and the other 3 were interesting but not THAT interesting Mecca and Math drive the narrative @@Harlem1mentality
Math is always the victim in every scenario..theres no way damn near 8 ppl leave within that short amount of time and its not him. This is no difference from ppl quitting McDonalds..the lack of accountability in ANY situation speaks for itself.
@@MonqueJ Mis fit, cortez, hip hop is real, hynaken, space ghost, sean bigg, esso, hollow da don, serius, dose, dizaster, taxstone, Smack, if you do not see a pattern, just go ahead and wrap you lips around his u know what and head bop.
I doubt other platforms will ask math these kind of questions 🗽 this was a real ny conversation 💯 shoutout Tiga & Math
Factsssss I was thinking the same thing‼️shout out tyga 💯
I thinkmatth put him on tho
@@Mike-so6wihe definitely did. That’s why he’s on there.
Yes they will it’s a reason Math came to this unknown platform
Appreciate that bro
One of my biggest issues is that Math NEVER takes accountability for his actions. I understand that he is the boss, but bosses make mistakes, and they acknowledge those mistakes; he doesn't.
same with Damon Dash, that's why they click
@JDHleo just saying...people with the same characteristics always tend to click.
You don’t understand being a boss vs a employee..Trump is an asshole but he’s very good at business and loopholes ..if you never owned a business or been a boss you can’t relate. Yall are more concerned about his “attitude “ or demeanor “ lol that comes with the game
@@honorableadrian1818You sound dumb. Spoken like a mf who doesn’t run a business and yes I’ve ran several.
@@honorableadrian1818 but...when it's always ''other people's fault" than it's no longer bussines...but rather narcissism. the moment it becomes pathological...you now start to harm others, it be physically of emotionally
Money don’t change anybody. It just shows your true colors.
💯
Facts
Id like a chance to really really show my true colors in a Big Way!! 😂
Especially Math
Absolutely!
I hated working beside people who would always speak on what someone else is making at the job. It’s a poor mindset.
But was this a "job" or was it a partnership between all parties who brought something to the table?..in that aspect it wasn't them "watching his money" it was them watching him covet the bag all to himself
@@bettersaluteCan't be a partnership if your're not financially invested.
definitely some feminine energy being worried about another mans accomplishments
“Job” and “poor mindset”
In the same sentence. How ironic 😂
@@BrooklynDon-vr1ui pocketwatching is for women and wang gobblers
I'm still waiting on Math to show how much he was paying Bigga😅😂😂😂
Tiger said that’s a lot !
The fact he paid a 7k debt that he didn’t have to should show you bro
@@elmztana1201or he “looks out” but doesn’t really pay a fair wage. His people will always be in need
he never showed the results
Bro it sound their wasn’t a fixed rate of payment in place and that’s a problem, if everyone is gettin $10k a month for ex, then I don’t think it would be a problem like this.
So he walked in not looking fly, and your first start was to take that grown man shopping, just pay him more money and he can shop for clothes for himself. I got a homie who bread is low but when we go out and party I give him money on the low so he can feel like a man and he can spend the bread how he wants. I would never offer to buy him clothes or sneaks. Come on Math
Actually he said he took him to the clothing sponsors..
U a solid g homie fam. I like to see everybody shining that make us all look like we moving as one
U cld give him money & they dont spend it on clothes for the show. Some ppl have no swag. Also Math ain't giving u money bt he'll take u out to restaurant lol
Facts
@@edlester4902if he paid em they could buy they owns stuff
The dude interviewing is more interested on the weed than the actual interview with math lol
your right, he's worried about the weed like damn bro
Set yourself up ahead of time. He knows he’s a pothead.
Sounds like a actual goat interviewing math 😂😂😂
Annoying and distracting. He has no class. Smoking dope and rolling it he's not focused on what he's saying
This guy here smh remember that url event in Texas and math was selling cds for 10 dollars and the kid gave him a 20 and he kept the whole 20 and the kid exposed him…That tells you everything you need to know.
Facts!!!
Pathetic
Facts
It’s called growth ..everybody kno Math “was” grimey ..he admitted it ..he has openly talked about evolving ..it happens
That comment is stupid 🤣🤣 🤡
There’s a common denominator here “math” everybody ain’t lying on u
Maff used all those guys to get to the top, a typical jay z masonic move 💯, that's the masons biggest secret to get to the top is to use ppl
lol get off your knees, brother.
That’s a bar.
that boy math don’t wanna pay and don’t want people to work on other endeavors smh
Exactly
Honestly I don't know what the hell is going on 🤣🤣 I been listening to this back and forth sh*t for a year and still don't know who is telling the truth - half of it sounds like a misunderstanding - jealousy is part of it - and not being loyal is the rest - this is some Young And The Restless, As The World Turns, Guiding Light sh*t
You didn't watch it 😅😅😅 try watching it
math said he only shoots 3 hours out of the day n work 2 days out the week.. Whatever they do with their free time to make money is on them.. same breath, “why is they still shooting bag talk?”😂
Fam.. don't expect consistency here lol
Shooting another show violates the contract!!!!!🤦🏾♂️
He actually said they doing a show asking guests questions lol like he got some unique patent on a podcast. Delisional
@drdread9896 violates the contract, but was fine if said show was on his network though....
What part of we agreed they would stop bagfuel don’t y’all understand? It was part of our agreement. Check their channel they stopped for 6 months… what is so hard to understand???
Lesson: Learn how to run a business. Learn how to pay people. Learn payroll. Do not pay people out of pocket or cash app or zelle. Payroll and contracts. Learn professionalism. All these podcast that break up over money and communication have 2 things in common. One of those things is professionalism which includes contracts and pay. The other thing is …….
Factz! I would have not done anywork on that show without a contract, that would give me equity in the show, incentives and protection from any unprofessional bullshit. The problem is with our culture is we think it's just a favor just to pay someone for doing work. Pay people what you owe and what they are worth. Ontop of that all these platforms in entertainment all start out with the homeboy business model, which never works out in the long run. Where you work for your friend for free or a small amount of per diem . You just want to see your friend get an opportunity because he is like family. Your friend appreciates it until he finally starts to get traction and gets a big check for the work everyone put into the product, that he owns. He gets recognition but also the people around him gets recognition that sometimes exceeds what the owner gets. People get insecure and greedy, Then he doesn't want to pay what you're really worth. Your friend doesn't tell you up front that he doesn't want to pay you so he does or says little petty things to justify why you shouldn't be paid what you are worth, or starts to put restriction on what you do outside of the business to earn income. Once he see's there's a resistance from you then arguments occur, communication break downs and then all of a sudden you're the one getting kick off the show after you put sweat equity into it. These co-hosts on these show's say they are bosses but they don't act like bosses. Either you want to get paid for your services or just sit at the barbershop and talk your shit and not get paid. Make a choice however realize it comes with sacrifice. Math Hoffa is not going to let anyone get bigger than him on his platform nor is he going to want to pay someone so much that they have too much leverage.
I don’t know maff but it seems to me like you were treating them like a pimp keep his hoes “keep em looking good no paper tho”!!!!
Eeewww *exactly* 🫡
😂😂😂
If they get a hold of some paper they subject to go crazy
Paying Bigga to his security business and paying him to be on show is two different things. Regardless how he runs his business you cant run your business like his
He at this point pathetic
Dude said 2 things per episode anyway
@@Rexaaay regardless of what he said, once he sat down and spoke he became a host. His secruity business is not the same as a host on a podcast. Bigga is a business owner who is also an employee of math. Math saw him as an employee that's why he paid him. He can't pay him for secruity and a host with the same check/ money. Gotta keep them separate unless their is a contract
@@803cancera lot of people with business’s rather get paid through their business
@@TheBiggaPicy'all brothers got to settled y'all difference's 🙏🏿💯
What went wrong on everybody’s end was everyone was afraid they might get it fucked over so they try to be a step ahead, but it backfired. If everyone was transparent about what they’re doing or how they was feeling about certain situations I think the business could’ve kept going
That's a different outlook
Basically, they felt Math was gonna snake em
@BrooklynDon-vr1ui the question is did he ? I don't believe he did from what he's saying.
Why would u work with him then??? THEY THKNK HE OWES THEM SOMETHING.....CLOUT CHASING
Feels like Bigga had an issue every episode then cause dude just sat there like a statue most the time lol looking mad as hell
Lmaooo
Facts. I dont think he offered anything to the discussion.
😂😂😂😂😂
Bigga has the heaviest energy ever 😂😂
I didn't know why Bigga was on the show anyway? He bought no substance.
So Bigga Christmas bonus was getting back the money that he loaned out 😂😂
😂😂😂😂
😳😳 yooo
I Can't Defend Math On That One😂
Not everyone is gonna get how funny this comment is.
😅😅😅😅
I used to listen to Math Hoffa hen I was 66, and now I'm 13. This will forever be a classic.
Math takes no blame on any factors
That’s how you know it ain’t right
Hes the boss..its his business
Real bosses know how to take accountability …
Maybe he's not to blame.
He pathetic truly
Very sad and pathetic
As a Filmer and Cinematographer , people often take advantage of us and believe we should work for free in the building stages , eventually it gets old . HE ADMITTED TO NOT PAYING HIM . Him charging him 100k for the RAW footage (he can say equipment) is not extortion . HES CHARGING YOU FOR THE INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY HE OWNS .
If the contract wasn’t signed by both parties …… the person who pressed “record” owns all the rights to the footage .
Facts. 98% of these dudes don’t even know what we go through but they believe these story teller all day.
Nigga pull up the contract, name a number. He didn’t sign a nda for this I bet, so show the real.
Also, Bigga made the right move and they chillin over there. Math big funny.
My first time here and just the fact that you're rolling up interviewing this is raw and straight to the point just like a convo between two homies I love it
🗣️🎙️
Guest looking down at your shoes like wtf 😂😂😂😂
I want a know who he talking bout 😂
@@michaelletona6228he was talking about Heineken.
Heineken Tony Yayo interview he mentioned his shoes 😂😂😂
@@FrankTownsendjr😂😂😂😂😂I’m gonna go back and check
Guest *
Math was the golden goose and these guys running game for short term hustle. Everybody didnt have same vision. Sounds like what nas went thru in QB.
When you start whistling for no reason after someone asks you a question, you're probably lying.
One thing I’ve learned in owning a couple of trucks is, friends and money don’t mix. Being a business owner is hard, especially if it’s friends involved.
Ppl always say tht & i never Agree...
Friends & Business Should Mix... Maybe ppl jus don't know their friends tht well 🤷♂️
@@joshuacharles4403I agree to a point. I think you don’t know a friend’s work ethic
@@GrabinGears That's true too... But even then, if it's True Friendship business should nvr destroy that. Jus make adjustments
I disagree. The two should be separate and if you are going to hire a friend the boundaries have to be set from the jump. Our friendship doesn’t end if our business relationship doesn’t work. You have to be completely transparent if you are hiring a friend and let them know what is going on. So you have the communication and understanding. Also a friend should never get mad about business
@@joshuacharles4403Well said bro 💯
In my opinion I felt his former co workers was pocket watching Math instead of trying to renegotiate numbers and figure out a solution that works best for all parties
They should take dame dash advice. Never pocket watch, it ruins business
He was taking them shopping 😂😂😂
Grown men son smh😂
50 Cent: "What you just say?" 😂
Doing the Diddy😢
There was never a problem taking your niggas or a friend shopping till fifty said that about diddy stfu ain’t nothing wrong with that. Have a mind of your own
Right I would’ve said pay me, I’ll go shopping for myself fam
“Uuuuggggghhh huuuuuuuh” whole time not paying attention to sh*t 😂
Annoying. .focused on the damn weed. He's just a yes man anyway
What made it worse is that in the episode where Vlad came back the second time, the expensive security guard Bigga hired FELL ASLEEP, and Vlad himself caught him on camera and called him out 😂, they didn’t edit it out the interview or anything lol
Exactly!!!
😂😂😂😂😂😂
I remember that ish😂😂😂
As a black business owner & son of a entrepreneur I understand maths perspective..My pops always gave my game about how your own friends & ppl that you call bro will always be noisy in your business..want to know how much you make or try to sabotage your business because they are jealous or hating..I stand with math 💯💯💯
What black have to do with it?
At the end of the day, Math is the leader. The buck stops with the leader. The boss gets celebrated when shit works, the boss is responsible when it don't. Math keeps having the same problem with quality employees. He is responsible.
So don’t judge me when I get rid of people who are problems…
To me this entire problem began when a working relationship starts with friends just hanging out and one dude seeing the bigger picture and getting the others involved for free (" Let's do this! We partners bro!!! that kind of talk is all at the begining) !! This dude didn't make it crystal clear to everyone how big this was gonna get..., so then when it does blow up, people like this guy start moving away from that group that worked for far less than they were worth. If he REALLY wanted to keep the team together he would of pushed for them to understand, but this guy is very competitive so he let them figure it out for themselves. A true boss is like a father to his workers and doesn't call workers his friends. Fathers do the right thing even when the kid doesn't think so or does some stupid ish. Then there is the thing about not wanting to owe anyone after they help you under a loose agreement. He knows all these people well enough to know how it would go- this is where this guy loses me completely- Enjoy the view from the top brother!
True words 👑 you are a man of wisdom and honor 🔥
These 2 🥷🏾's are like Beavis & Butthead
"You said that?" LMAO Tiga mad funny with that. Not going to lie I be thinking the same thing.
Ppl talking about "men shouldn't be watching other men's money." But "watching the money" is an essential part of contract negotiations. You shouldn't be ENVIOUS or COVETOUS, but you should be aware if you're helping to generate that money. Also, IMO, if they wanted to do Bag Fuel in addition to your pod, it shouldn't have been an issue. It's like telling someone if you work for me you can't create your own business on the side. That's not right. He just wanted them to build his house but neglect their own. I will say that if you're not a partner on paper in the Podcast you shouldn't be expecting Partner money.
Tiger a real one, never scared to ask the tough questions. Keep your foot on their neck, you’re one of the best interviewers out here.
😂😂😂
A “real one” because he asked a dude he knows well some obvious questions….? C’mon bro🤷🏾♂️
He didn’t show those receipts though 🤷🏾♂️
Math always say he got recite and never show them 😂😂😂😂😂
It’s a reason he’s not enforcing the contract .
That's the spin move lol. He's capping.
@@TeeJMoFii1cause it was non sense and not notorized
Receipt** recite is repeat
Man hell yeah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Dude can find a picture, but never proof he paid anyone!!!!!!!
How he couldnt see the hate in the room?!?!?! i could see the hate in dude eyez and im in ST. LOUIS. Shout out Math
I fuck with Math heavy but as the Boss, he should know exactly what he paid Bigga off the top of his head- One number for Security. Another number for being a host of the Show.
This how you know it’s cap lol
FACTS PAYING BIGGA FOR SECURITY SERVICE AND WHAT YOU PAY HIM AS BEING A CO-HOST SHOULD NEVER INTERTWINE.. HIS SECURITY BUSINESS IS ONE THING AND WHAT HE DOES ON THE SHOW IS ANOTHER THING.. NOW THE ONLY THING I WILL GIVE MATH CREDIT ON IS THAT BIGGA DIDNT REALLY TALK LIKE THAT MOST OF THE TIME SO HE SHOULD OF JUST SAID HEY BIGGA I SEE U NOT REALLY INTERESTED IN BEING ON THE SHOW AS A CO-HOST SO HOW ABOUT I JUST PAY YOU FOR YOUR SECURITY SERVICES AND YOUR NO LONGER OBLIGATED TO TALK IF YOU DONT WANT TO ON THE SHOW.. YOU COOLD STILL SIT ON ON THE SHOW, YOU CAN ALSO SAY SOMETHING IF YOU CHOOSE TO BUT YOU DONT HAVE TO IF YOU DONT WANT TO.. THATS WHAT THE CONVERSATION SHOULD OF BEEN BUT NAH MATH WAS TRYNNA GET TWO THINGS FOR THE PRICE OF ONE A CO-HOST, & SECURITY LOL😂😂😂
He's all cap.
Y’all thinking naively. #1 he prolly didn’t wanna disclose the amount. As a boss you have to know when to hold ya tongue you can’t say too much. If he did disclose the amount the next person he’s hiring would know how much bigga was getting paid. Come on, Hoffa gotta play his cards correctly. Everybody wanna talk like a boss but don’t know how to be one. Hoffa knew what he was doing here.
#2 As a boss especially in the business Hoffa is in. He’s paying a lot of ppl. people y’all don’t even see in the shop. If he can’t rm what he paid bigga off the top & has to go look for the exacts ion see nun wrong w that
Like Mase said "We fell out because my homies thought I was making money I wasn't making".
Math act like he is known for "Getting FLY" he didn't dress clean until this PODCAST came about tbh
I mean we could say that for most a lot of other hiphop podcasters lol Joe started wearing Amiri hats and dressing the owner of Zara’s
Exactly but he was saying that's what had to be done now not that he always was that. He never claimed to be some fashion mogul.
“Sean Bigga, man of God” 😂😂😂
Yayo had me Rollin!!! 🤣🤣
90% of keeping a job is making other people comfortable. Big facts‼️
its hillarious how he switched the topic from pretending he had receipts to trying to tarnish biggas business by making it look shady. Thats literally how all temp / employment agencies work
Literally every legit security company makes significantly more than the guards. Also, what thw company makes is not discussed with the guards.
@@Sheisty25right? He tryna make it seem like Bigga scheming.
It's called normal business. When he started whistling he found it, he was deciding NOT to show it
Math funny is hell 😂😂😂 that Bigga part had me crying 😂😂😂
Sh*t hilarious.
deadass the best part of the interview... listened to that part a couple of times 😂
the whistle part got me in tears rn 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Yall laughing but no receipts were shown. *Y’all left that out*
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Money doesn’t always change people but it changes the people around you always.
Crabs in a barrel. It isn’t Math this happens far too often in the Black community
This ain’t a black issue it’s a human issue. Story tryna to marginalize us blacks you powdered pringle
You statement is true but false in the Math situation
Pay ya people.
Sad but all so true
Bigga being mad at Loon is wild that man did mad time and turned his life around if Bigga felt some type of way he should’ve addressed it like a man he preaches peace and god but can’t peace it up with a dude who spent decades in prison? If that’s a true story I’m disappointed in Bigga, Loon is one of the good ones.
Bigga is contradictory
Math said some Real shit about keeping a job.....just keep people comfortable because i fukk up often at work but get many breaks...because everyone loves me....Real Talk.....thats me
Damn math that's real spill, long as people like you at the job you don't have to shit really, long as the right people like having you around.. I see it at my job everyday
I refuse to believe math wasn’t the problem, this happened way too many times to math and he always plays the victim and blames everyone.
😂😂😂😂 math bigga impression had me spit out my water i was drinking dey sheep 😂😂😂
I thought it was just me..😂😂..Nigga impressions are hilarious
*Bigga
The time Math spent searching for what he paid Bigga was ridiculous.
Yea I always noticed bigga gives off the I’m miserable with life vibes
The fifteen minutes looking for a receipt kinda killed the flow lol
tiger made weed smokin look mad feindy ..... the weed was his favorite guest...lol
I couldn't sit and talk to ANYONE doing that , focused on weed. Looked like a fiend.
I bet that smoking on that mic sounded good in homie’s mind.
😂
that shxt was annoying as hell!
Both of these dudes are annoying. The whistling from this crybaby , china man smoking , and rolling
Bigga wanted to get “flewd out”
That smoke move was impressive 14:47 😂
lol I just noticed that 💨🅾️
The host isn't comprehending Math's answers, which is making his follow up questions sound like semantics.
bro terrible at his job
@@DavidPre7iterrible asf
@@DavidPre7iion think he should smoke on camera
He's not paying attention
Dude too busy trying blow out his brain witcthe trees
Asian dude need to improve his interviewing skills. He interrupting Math in the middle of important points, rolling weed--not looking at his guest when the guest is being emotionally vulnerable.
Math, this was a terrible idea. You should have given a smaller channel like 10ToesDown TV a chance.
That's the problem with these blunt rolling or drinking podcasts, they lack focus! And now everyone wants to hate on Shay Shay when he listens to his guests and keeps focused.
I lost respect for Math. He should have set him straight ...like maybe we should do this interview another time
It has to be Heineken he’s talking about getting gear for…
Definitely he dress like a G unit member
Pretty much all of them except 1 or 2 ppl n math
heavy is the head that wears the crown
Heavy are the balls that don't have a woman 😂
Math was wrong to do them dudes like that man they had a dope movement
Nah what u mean. Listening to this they look like snakes
@@elmztana1201 nah math ain’t telling the whole truth everybody can’t be snakes
Y'all mf's crazy 🤣 how tf you come up with that conclusion from watching this interview in its entirety WITH receipts? Make it make sense
@@TheBulletzgottishow20how do you know? You’re not dealing with these folks. You saying nah like you know 100% for sure what the deal is. You’re just a spectator holmes
@@Str8FWD913 bro he the problem
Math was busy taking them Diddy shopping the whole time😂😂
This looks like a case of "Homeboy Entertainment" a economic syndrome that allows "friends" to be entitled or feel entitled when the money starts coming in. Math should get a financial advisor to be a "liaison" with his future employees where they don't need to go directly to him. Because it seems that it is too much of a headache as he states in the interview. Bottom-line if Bigga provided security he should get paid because that is his company's income and it can be distributed how both party's feel fit. Math shouldn't talked Bigga's business tactics because that can lead to a lawsuit for "defamation" towards his company and that is a serious allegation I'm surprised Math spoke about that. Math has a lot of potential I feel he needs a better business staff around him to advise him that its "Business" not "Personal". Great content wish everybody blessings!!
I like how u counter his points real journalism bro u did homework on him so when he said something u were able to hit back with knowledge of the subject
I blame the pandemic…Because it gave employees the opportunity to want to be bosses..brown nosing..not understanding business ethics & economics..Math was blessed by god to be a boss ..His ppl have shows and are not doing numbers..so that lets you know math is handling his situation correctly 💯💯 I stand with his on business..Blessings!!
You are dead on about your assessment. When you said, “It gave employees the opportunity to want to be bosses…brown nosing..not understanding business ethics & economics”. Yeah for some employees out there to be able to transition in leadership. But they have to work like hell to sustained that position. Peace bruh, stay grinding! 🫵🏿🫡💯
Math don't know ish abt being a boss.
Drop the whole episode this shit entertaining 😂😂😂
This is the whole episode ain’t it😂😂
I would never want to be friends or do business with Math Hoffa, Joe Budden, and Gilbert Arenas. They all come off as immature and temperamental
HOFFA
Salute HASSAN
something, something just AINT RIGHTTTTT‼️‼️‼️‼️😂😂😂
@@Uppercutpodcast good work my g head ice made me known u offical
He telling grown ass men to pick out anything you want. lmao
Dope how Mac plays devil advocate on the regular.... imagine a grown ass man TEXTING you talking about if you still wanna fight, I'm around...TF??😂😂😂
Whose Mac?
China Mac ..who’s not this Asian dude😂😂😂😂
@@newelldavis1858 🤦🏽♂️🤷🏽♂️😂
Math stared at his phones for 5min he dont know what to look for😂
I don’t know tiger but he seems like a super humble dude I respect it
When he hit that.. "you ain't got it math"
I wanted to keep watching.
It always 2 sides to EVERY story. Glad math cleared things up
Did he clear it up or did he deflect and not take any kinda accountability for all these hosts leaving his show. He is obviously the problem in all these situations. He the only common denominator 🤦🏾♂️
3 sides, both sides and the truth.
@@antman21555 people so naive man smh
@@ST58432 people like you
he didn't clear everything FOOLISH ONE. he just gave the other side. Too many men like yourself with women tendencies How you favor math story over bigga is dumb
1) There is a disagreement with paying Bigga/his company for security. Bigga sees that as being separate from beeing on the show and Math sees it differently. 2) Math sees access, gifts, bonuses, favors etc as payment, but most of the other hosts havw seen it differently.
A lot of this seems to be apart of learning things on the fly as things are taking off.
Some of you in the comments cannot are not bosses and can never fathom from the perspective of a leader or boss.. I feel you Math. Time tells all. Respect to dude for asking the right questions. 💯
Bro, he ain't no boss paying people on cash app. Smh
I’m sorry but I’m crying at him saying one of the cast members was looking CRAZY showing up 😂
Bosses shouldn't boss off of emotions. The main thing to do is protect the business legally!!
Co Host- we need more money to pay bills.
Math - here’s some free clothes and shoes.
😂
MATH HOFFA seem like a real one,kept it 100
No he didn’t
B.s
at this point it doesn't matter everybody is in their own corner doing their own now, success to everyone
Best comment ever🤫
Fire interview
i laughed at when he said. the guy that dont talk wants a podcast lol
Bigga definitely has a horrible attitude.... him sitting over there crying is common
I thought he was homeless ngl
Facts he always was pouting
18:10 JEEZUS HOW LONG IS THIS GOING TO TAKE looking for receipts WTH MAN!
Math a real dude his success got people being greedy
All of them right?
@@kenroydaly8608I think so. I think it was too much ego. For everyone involved. I think that the pod peaked and Money went up. They had a contract and math obligations to that contract was up held. But they always talk about bad deals on the pod so of course Mfers felt some type of way. They could have renegotiated the deal. Math could have said look we up right now I’ll give yall a bonus until it time to re-up appease everyone for a bit then when it’s time we cut ties.
too much ego, and the end of the day they were 4 catz that could be replaced Bigga hardly spoke and the other 3 were interesting but not THAT interesting Mecca and Math drive the narrative @@Harlem1mentality
Math.....get off your burner account and get to work
Da bro Hoffa CERTIFIED RN4L😤💰🥶🤞🏾💙💪🏾💯
Why people think buying a grown man some clothes on really change his life .
Keep the clothes niggas need that bread for the fam
Tiger a real one. Math searching for info he says he has but doesnt. Lmao
Math is always the victim in every scenario..theres no way damn near 8 ppl leave within that short amount of time and its not him. This is no difference from ppl quitting McDonalds..the lack of accountability in ANY situation speaks for itself.
What he do to make them leave
@@MonqueJ Mis fit, cortez, hip hop is real, hynaken, space ghost, sean bigg, esso, hollow da don, serius, dose, dizaster, taxstone, Smack, if you do not see a pattern, just go ahead and wrap you lips around his u know what and head bop.
Dude was smoking like he was in a interrogation room.
My boy tiga gettin high asf
20 minutes of this is Math looking for text messages.
“You gonna fly me out to BET?” - Bigga
“Nicca you got Covid!” - Math Hoffa
“😂😂😂” - Me
Math hollered the entire interview!! An I know the Chinese Boi ain't do nothing @ all!!
Kept FAT Joe waiting? That's ignorant and it's a lack of respect for your guest's time.
interviewer doing all them loud ass smokin noises in the mic smh