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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 15 มิ.ย. 2024
- A 3 hour long 7 part series isn’t for everyone when it comes to damage, so I thought it best to condense all my findings into one simple video catered towards players of all walks of Destiny. If you’re looking for a straightforward way of improving your team’s damage, whether you’re organizing a day 1 team or hoping to improve your success in LFG, this guide is meant for you. With an explicit focus on pragmatic strategy, the advice in this video is designed to be as accessible as possible, for players with the end goal of completing an activity rather than optimizing it.
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Timestamps:
00:00 Intro
00:35 Strategy
06:05 Equipment
14:29 Roles
18:26 Composition
19:33 Analysis
20:18 Outro
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Babe wake up, new Aegis video dropped
Let her sleep, she's bolloxed after last night with me 😂
Riven simps
@@davidc5170you good white boy?
It would be cool to see a video focused on solo DPS strategies like dungeons, a lot of people struggle with the massive health pools of the GOTD bosses in their solo flawless runs. I find the more simple strategies like a single exotic (xeno, acrius, sleeper, lament) or witherhoard + BNS linear fusion work the best but it'd be interesting to see what you think with all the data you've gathered.
Yep I've heard the desire for solo content loud and clear, I might start working on it at some point :)
@@TheAegisRelicit would be greatly appreciated! Knowing what’s the most optimal vs what’s the most consistent to make solo clears a bit easier.
3 tailed fox is definitely worth looking at for solo damage. yhats what i always use for solo dps
@@WakingDreams34really? I’ll have to try that. When I’m solo in dungeons I typically just use lament, sleeper, cold comfort.
Your videos fill a much-needed niche in the d2 content sphere. Glad you're making more of these kinds of videos after the last series.
Goat uploads again..
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Aegis is one of the few youtubers who are inviting players to in improve their game and skill. In a game where 90%of content can be steamrolled. Its great to see someone teach who is willing to teach the true endgame. Keep up the amazing work
Love that this vid seems like a reaction to the unintended effects of the last few vids where people started having misconceptions just because of optimal DPS. Thanks for addressing that, especially on the idea of prioritizing consistency and team cohesion and the reality of actual playgroups over flat DPS optimisation.
What a Quality channel.
Man, this has gotta be some of the best content in the community. The way you deliver information, explain in a clear and understanding way is so nice. Your videos are absolute quality.
Really appreciate the content and talking about the other side of dmg: consistency. Always good to strive for the best, but sometimes you need something that just works, is simple, effective, and consistent. That's always the advice I give to new guardians and people I raid with.
It’s absolutely insane how in depth you go, you are a very underrated content creator.
Remember that if there is a weird scenario where you need to swap heavy, if you aren't using heavy outside damage, Bipod rockets have a really good ammo conversion.
Ngl your my fav D2 creator your videos help me and my duo so much. Thank you for these vids❤
This is by far the best dps video or even the best destiny video of all time
Great Video, love the editing style and the research you put behind this. Please continue with this. ❤
I love how In depth your explanation goes. Best creator in this kind of content by far 👌🏻
we need in depth vids like these i love the high quality and great editing
Dude i just wanna say you are a beast for making this entire series. Keep up the hard work, the results will come in due time. You dont just say "use this" you say "use this - during this - because it is better than xyz." This is what a real guide looks like
Love the extra note at the end there, that you’re going for the kill not the kill in record time. Me and my Contest team aren’t the greatest but we make the point in every boss encounter that if the boss has 4 phases before the enrage wipe, then we only need enough damage to consistently do 25% health and then focus everything else into survivability. Great video as always!
I really like the tone of this video. Helpful and informative. New sub.
Yesss I love these. You break it down so well. I've been watching the series hours of release for each video and sharing it with my friends. We're going to be implementing alot of what you said for crota. I've decided to have a nice void hunter build ready just for crota. Dead fall + gjallerhorn so everyone else can run bait and switch rockets with izi. Wish me luck. I hope deadfall lasts the dmg phase ❤
Your vids are a gold standard for how this kind of content should be produced njnj
Not sure if this is the last video of this series, but man every single one of them was absolutely goated! Much appreciated Aegis! Random point but I wonder if the double special nerf will change anything(keeping in mind I haven’t finished the video yet)
I cannot speak highly enough of how well you balanced the ability to do good DPS with the ideas that you don't NEED to do optional DPS in most situations. Such a well balanced view, I recommended it to my clan as the "must watch" video for people wanting to do the day 1 raid. Appreciate the work it takes to not only get all that data and present it well, but also to keep a healthy and balanced perspective.
Thanks a lot for this guide Aegis ! Also gl to u too for the upcoming day one
Extremely informative video bro. Keep up the good work 👍
This is so in-depth thank you for the guide, dropped a sub :)
Just started watching your channel. Last 2 videos were great keep it up.
I cannot recommend these videos enough to both new and experienced players. Keep up the good work, it is very appreciated, even in this era of disenfranchisement. Thank you for your hard work.
Watching the background Gambit gameplay restored my faith in the hardcore D2 community.
It really feels like you're setting a new standard for high-end PvE content, good shit. I'll surely be sharing this and the whole series to my friend group to help with upcoming day 1s :D
and semi-random question, I'm just curious, in some of the gambit background footage, how'd the text chat get to be all clear with the word chat being vertical?
It's a game setting, Text Chat opacity or something I think (vertical is a bug)
Love your videos man :) I've been playing for about three/four months. A veteran friend first got me intrigued on DPS rotations by telling me about ALH Rocket + Izanagi would be a good start. Ever since I've been curious about more options and been seeing your videos and it's helped me a lot with understanding stuff (Current favourite is Izanagi + Funnelweb (I don't have Ikelos SMG) + Apex Predator when with my main raid team.)
On a side note, I'm someone who enjoys optimisation, but ONLY when necessary/when the whole team is comfortable with it. Otherwise, I gladly run Thunderlord with Star Eater Scale Gathering Storm for a majority of encounters due to it being very consistent and easy (especially for teaching people.) That or the weapon I fell in love with; Taipan.
A fresh breath, thank you for this
the goat swings and homeruns again
The titan slander is wild though i remember doing a master nez run. Had 3 warlocks trashing on titans while they were running Sunbracers and Strandlock. I out damaged all of them with Tcrash Tractor and a Voltshot fusion. Shut them up real fast hahah
Class never substitutes skill :)
truly the best information here for endgame play
I feel like you've achieved the gold standard of PvE destiny content
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Dropped 1 minute ago, ‘Liked and commented l’ now time to watch this
4:42 is genuinely so true, the amount of “linear nerf means linears suck, we should use rockets” people i’ve out-damaged with a BaS Cataclysmic is genuinely very concerning
Yeah execution and structure matters more than weapon choice by a LOT for most players
I’ve been playing destiny since the beginning and always told my friends “Yeah but what is the EXACT most optimal way to do DPS here” and since I read your DPS post on Reddit til now you keep scratching that itch I’ve been looking for in terms of the ACTUAL optimal strategies for DPS. The ideology, the exact weapons, loadouts etc.
Hope you blow up from here and hope Bungie does right by the game to give you the space to grow
WE MAKIN IT OUT OF THE DIV BUBBLE WITH THIS ONE 💯💯💯
I’d love to see you make class specific videos some time in the future, I have friends and even people in LFG’s mention that they just think that compared to hunters and warlocks, titans do next to nothing for the team, so I’d love to see a video on how you think titans could fit into teams in high level content in a meaningful way
Titans are in a rough spot but I definitely think they have the easiest time surviving in extremely rough high density content with Syntho + Throwing Hammers + Sol Invictus in the most straightforward way, even if that's not a very common niche.
Man doesn’t miss
God’s work. Thank you!
Thanks, dude!
Omg my favorite creator!
Hey listen your videos are super informative and cool and all about DPS but what I REALLY commend you for is teaching destiny players not to be toxic lol
I mostly play GM's nowadays. In my humble opinion, it's always good to have one teammate having a defensive toolkit to support their offensive teammates.
I found that when people play GM's, really cool and interesting stuff I hadn't thought of before pops up.
hard carrying d2 content creation rn i fear 🐐🐐🐐
Can any kind soul please make a DIM link for the 2 DPS-phase builds (ad-clear and damage)?
As a titan main it hurt when bungie nerfed hoil and storm grenades. That was our one thing to not feel useless for day 1 raids and we never even got to use it in a day 1 raid... Technically we could have ran it for Kings Fall BUT there was a bug at the time making arc subclasses have 0 damage resistance even at tier 10 resil. But its whatever the game has kinda fallen apart and I am gonna do what I find fun.
Any chance for a video discussion raid prep weapon wise? Or are you waiting for bungie to discuss the subclass and exotic armor changes. Thank you❤
Yeah in the coming weeks
Great video; definitely earned a sub from me!
Great video!
Could y’all help with a question. To prep for day one is a master raid the best for it.
If you avoid using surges is a master raid like for like in terms of damage you’ll be doing on contest?
Damage isn't really the biggest issue, but master raids are a good environment for survival practice
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I gotta say on titan I do enjoy using strand with threadlings to autoload. Witherhoard, fusion and apex
Yeah you can use Ascent on Titan just a bad damage super and mediocre sub
@@TheAegisRelic nah the super sucks, farming nez I get top damage majority of the time though
Great video! Could you elaborate on how to execute the double sniper pairing?
It's 2 Supremacy (to proc e. KT) 4 IKELOS (to proc FTTC + Fury) 1 Gjally repeat then dash/dodge
@@TheAegisRelicWhat mags would you put on the snipers for a dragon’s shadow gally rotation? After watching your godroll video, fluted and handling masterwork seems obviously but stumped when it comes to the magazine perk.
I say DPS is like money. Everyone thinks it’s the solution to all their woes, and so they chase it as an end in itself.
But like money, it isn’t enough. Yes, you absolutely need it, and understanding how to obtain it is critical to success.
But you’re chasing it as an end in and of itself, then your life will be full of misery. If you chase dps as an end in itself, then your run will end at the wipe screen.
Woah Yeah Baby! Let’s go
Random question but what roll are you using on the ikelos shotgun in the gameplay? I’ve been using pellet shotguns lately and I’ve been enjoying them. I’m using both trench and 1,2 punch trying to mix up my special weapon usage.
Grave/Surrounded, it's not the best roll for Gambit I think but I have it because of speedrunning RoN
I freaking love breakdowns like these. 👌
Although this video is really detailed and i can tell a lot of effort has gone into this, it’s not very new player friendly. Clarifying what certain exotics do, where to find the weapons mentioned in the video, or weapon names on the screen when mentioned so we can search for them separately from the video would make a world of difference in taking advice from the content. I enjoyed this video but due to my limited understanding of some things means i did not understand what was being explained to me sometimes. Great video!
Yeah this video is more for intermediate players since I don't expect new players to be seriously attempting day 1
@@TheAegisRelic True! Great video either way. I’ll get there once i’ve learnt all the niche things in this game
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Oh my goodness gracious
I have a question that may seem stupid: so when you talk about mods and what to use, should I prioritize things like triple surges and triple time dilation before armor stat mods? Also what stats should be prioritized? On my warlock I can hit 100 in resil, recov and discipline
Typically don't need stats during DPS besides resil if you're the Well placer so you can prio damage mods
was gonna say that anybody doing day 1 doesnt need a guide for dps.... but then i remembered root happened and people to this day still think tlord is the best dps option lmao
If u have a warlock already with lunas then I would recommend sanguine alchemy cause if u run gally in the well its free surge mods so free damage
Sanguine is extremely niche and not really worth the swap but if you find a way to comfortably swap to it go for it
I’m curious because I hear all the time that Wilderflight is undeniably the best breach nade for damage but I see multiple people usually use an empty vessel or another nade launcher to match the surges of their rocket. Which is actually better.
Wilderflight, but it's a pain to get a good one
I love how any other (insert insult) TH-camr has been making videos about how the state of the game sucks, and aegis is just making this beautiful videos putting so much effort and time and facts! You are just another level sir. Thanks for sharing this piece of art.
I've a spike, alh, frenzy wilderflight but with a blast masterwork. does blast masterwork still impact the damage of your shots? I remember that being a thing back in forsaken and have been running with that idea in my head since.
No afaik
For surges, is 2 rocket + 1 kinetic for izi better since diminishing returns, or is rocket DPS that much higher (and more consistent since no precision needed) that triple surge for that 17->22 is worth it? I guess it might also depends on if you can get a special that matches the rocket (so not wilder+apex, and nothing with cold comfort, but others?)
Edit: also had surge numbers off, thought the last one was 22->25. the effectively 4.3% rocket is probably more than 10% izi
17 to 22 and yeah triple rocket surge is what you want especially with reload enhancers (check spreadsheet FAQ)
Does that sunbracers build you used in gambit not take advantage of heat rises? I thought the resto x2 might be justifiable
I swapped off it since Resto unnecessary in Gambit
Could you possibly make a video more focused on the teamwork and problem solving side of day ones and give some tips?
I might do that next time around, but I'd say my video about Starting with Speedrunning is a good idea of the fundamentals of teamwork
@@TheAegisRelic ok ty :) I’ve been trying to get more into the super endgame stuff and get better at the game but it seems like all the guides are outdated or just say watch streamers
aegis I gotta know; what do you do when d2 runs short on content, like rn? how do you keep so active
Speedrunning is all I care about when it comes to stuff I actually play in this game and that doesn't depend on Bungie's content release cycle fortunately
Lumina main here 👊😎👌
I know this is an unusual request, but would you consider making a flawless raid guide? I want to try my hand at flawless DSC but I'm not sure where to start.
I'm making raid guides at some point
What are some good pellets shotguns you can still get. I have about every thing else talked about except pellets shotguns
Check the Equipment tab from the spreadsheet, stuff like Riiswalker, Without Remorse, Xenoclast, etc.
Is kinetic tremors better than bns on supremacy? Saw it in the vid but not sure since I’ve never heard it mentioned before.
Yeah check spreadsheet FAQ
Does a vorpal Cartesian still have a place or is a controlled burst loaded question better?
Worse
Is there any particular reason why heritage uses recombination over something like focused fury? I wouldve thought the 20% buff for the bottom 8 shots (w/reconstruction) to be more value than the large buff on the single recom shot, or am I missing something here?
Recombination is favored in most instances as it does not require successive shots (damage loss) and is an immediate 100% right off the bat for short phases, use Fortissimo with FTTC/Frenzy if you want to cover for longer phases
@@TheAegisRelic Okay that makes sense, thanks!
What would you recommend for weapons and strategy for ghost of the deep's
Check my raid and dungeon boss DPS video
how are people disliking the video, you put so much content into this video and might singlehandedly double or triple the day one completion rate for the community
spoiler thats why
there's always a few, but leak in the first three seconds isn't great admittedly, even if the rest of the video is awesome
@@life-destiny1196 fair enough. I’d say anything outside of what changes are made to the raid should be fair game
@@Jijert personally I wouldn’t call knowing the reprised raid a spoiler unless it’s about what changes are made. The moment it gets announced it’ll be impossible to avoid knowing online and every feed will be flooded with remastered raid guides
I think a lot of the complaints of “ignorance” from lfgs don’t come from people who refuse to change loadout rather most of the time people don’t know what’s best and ideally these videos will change that. Once people learned about what’s best, practically comes into play. Thanks.
How to do the most chunking to bosses health? What weapons? and what is the strat for it. Thanks.
Basically just spam rockets lol
@@TheAegisRelic easy, thanks :)
Did something happen to the FILO energy slug? Can't figure out why it's not on the Boss damage spreadsheet
No longer obtainable
@@TheAegisRelic is it good tho 😢
what are the exotics commonly used with void hunter in a raid setting?
Gyrfalcon's, Omni (situational), Aeon.
SES/Orpheus in some cases.
@@TheAegisRelic thank you sir
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What should people use in the absence of wilderflight?
Empty Vessel is a more easily farmable, acceptable alternative
goat
since u mentioned supremacy with kt and fttc, is kt better than bait and switch then?
Rewind and KT, but yes, it is
@@TheAegisRelic oh my bad, thank you 🫂
Defiently was taking mental notes for my day 1. But we just not gonna talk about the poor other teams in gambit that his team was absolutely steam rolling?
Will Double special still be that viable after the nerf next season?
Special finisher is not going anywhere and you still want double special loadout for damage. Worst case scenario put on cenotaph and aeons for heavy generation.
Hey, I have a question, lets say Im a Warlock and want to Strand Swap for the DPS, why would I switch to Solar (Sunbracers) during the encounter? I wouldnt get my Strand Abilities in-time if I do so, hence why I'm confused.
I guess the solution is not to Strand swap as it is a bigger lost (Solar adclear and well) than a win (better DPS)? Of course there would be other Warlocks users playing Well in my team, but you never know right?
Im considering DPS optimisation especially in a Contest raid scenario (Crota's is in a few weeks!), so I cannot "just" yolo it and run Foreberance and Aeons thats it, I guess. Unless you prove me wrong!
I wouldn't be on Broodweaver on day 1 personally, but if you have 2 other Wells, go for it :P stay on it the whole encounter
@@TheAegisRelic We are like 3-4 Warlocks so there's overlapping issues, hence why Im allowing myself to explore other subclasses!
I'll try Strand in Contest with Foreberance - Aeons and switch to Ophidians and Sojourner for DPS, but I have doubts of my survivability..
@@MeneIwen Having another well will usually still be preferable, but I'd consider arc with vesper of radius/geomag swap to be a decent option when a well's truly useless. Arc souls add a decent amount of dps and an extra damage super can't hurt when ammo starved
Does this still apply now with the change to double special? are we still running double specials for dps etc?
Yeah it does ammo management is just a bigger concern
@@TheAegisRelic do you think it will be ok to run double special with the team set up with special fini and aeons in there? Or is it moving to 1 special now do you think? As that will kill off a lot of the damage rotations obviously
Yeah with finishers it's free
From a damage standpoint, are striker enhanced storm nades still stronger than pulse nades?
About the same but pulses are more consistent long term
@@TheAegisRelic ok that makes sense, I was also wondering how much handling dex mods give in regards to the stat boost. They only give a duration multiplier but is there a way to know if you have reached 100 on the handling stat?
@@jagwinderkhangura8447 d2gunsmith is pretty good about that stuff with respect to guns specifically, or look up the Destiny Data Compendium if you need even more nuts-and-bolts information on things
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Here’s my question, say you are in lfg teams that are averaging 1 million less damage per phase than you are, but you lack the ability to do so and do stuff like buff and debuff, what do you do in this scenario? Surely there is a breakoff for where you do so much more than your team that you are outpacing the need for a debuff because they can’t use it properly anyways
You communicate to them, that's what a lot of people are missing, you don't have to go it alone and they're better off if you tell them what's missing
nah but solar hunter has ahamkara's spine, which is literally just as strong as either of the solar ad nuke exotics (on titan or warlock) and works insanely well for a damage phase on any semi-close range boss. I've used ahamkara's spine in the last 4 day one raids successfully at every boss, have died roughly the least in my fireteam, and have usually outdamaged my fireteam. Since every melee or grenade kill gives me an orb and a firesprite, I have immediate health and regeneration from every kill on top of very strong ad clear without using ammo, without relying on kill procs, and without needing to be consistently close to ads other than needing to dodge occasionally for knives back.
YAS tripmines do so little damage comparatively that you lose damage by going out of your way to use them over something like RDMs
If we're talking survivability Gunslinger is okay, but the two subs I mentioned are a better fit
@@TheAegisRelic tripmines do basically the same damage as a gl shot (aka what you said to use in this here video for an energy slot with izi) and on top of the knives with their damage and scorch (also pretty much the same damage as a gl shot when precision), they also cause a solar ignition (free large DOT damage). You're literally saying in the video it doesn't matter the exact damage and that it really doesn't matter so long as I'm not being a detriment to my team... "The goal is consistency and not absolute optimization" as you said. Like if you recommend I run izi gl apex, why would I not run ahamkara's spine? it's not like RDM is gonna do anything special here, nor will it help me delete beefy ads pre damage phase, and running out of izi ammo after 6 shots in a longer phase leaves a deficit in time waiting for reconstruction anyways on top of just not needing to have more than necessary loadout changes. And I already have a RDM build, or if you want to actually get into the "absolute optimization" category, then mask of bakris does more dps than either of these builds but has much worse survivability being on no ability synergy stasis. If we're talking survivability, I kill 1 ad with knives and immediately have full health with regeneration. Like yeah, invis is better, duh, though that doesn't help with ad clear. But for the highest dps subclass to also be having "okay" survivability when you can actually play it is very good. Maybe I'm just built different on solar hunter, who knows.
If Gunslinger on YAS is what you're most comfortable on I'm glad it's working out for you but it certainly wouldn't be my first recommendation to someone looking for a low barrier of entry solid damage subclass combo option. The problem with tripmines is that unlike other grenade options, YAS spends an excessive amount of time dodging and throwing knives (two actions that do almost zero damage, also sacrificing Marksman's in a rocket meta), when you could be using your abilities to positively affect rocket uptime instead. I have less problems when it comes to YAS neutral - it's certainly very easy to learn and spam - but it still doesn't hold a candle to Combination Blow Cowl (perma Resto x1 vs. perma invis + heal on kill).
you should do actual build videos for the classes in raids
For example:warlock speed run builds etc
How come div wasnt mentioned at all? did i miss a nerf or something?
Generally not worth using over Tractor/Tether any more (15% + precison isn't required for rockets)