Installing a RARE G4 Upgrade in a PowerBook G3 Pismo... Can It Run SNOW LEOPARD?!
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- Thanks PCBWay.com! Today we're doing an upgrade I've always been curious about - a processor swap in a Powerbook Pismo to take it from G3 to G4! As you probably know from my last video on the Pismo, I was never a huge fan of these machines - but this one is growing on me.
So let's push it to the limit! Maybe even far enough to run the IMPOSSIBLE CAT, the beta version Snow Leopard for PowerPC that was never released? 10.6 on a Pismo!
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Collectors: we try to keep our machines as stock as possible
Action Retro: o_o SSD and processor upgrade on a laptop, RGB and a desktop GPU in a G4 cube
🤣🤣🤣
@@ActionRetro yes
Depends what you are "collecting". For me, the goal has always been "preserve the experience of running as much mac software as possible on an original machine", so it's necessary to pop in a bigger HDD and, if you can find it, a better CPU to optimize the retro software. But if you're in it for hardware and hardware alone, then sure, keep it at stock and enjoy filling that 20GB HDD in short order.
That amount of thermal compound was perfectly acceptable.
Prob but hopefully that covers the whole dye if it isn't then the cpu could die
It's probably fine. Back before heatspeaders were common on desktop CPUs I would put a small grain of thermal paste and spread it over the due with a razor blade. In retrospect it seems overkill...🤔
@@alexdhall yea i know since the ihs is missing or never came with one that means the CPU dye is exposed where the silicon is (The hot part of the cpu) so it vital that the dye has an even coat of thermal paste. Some time the temps will say it is fine but there could be no sensor on the small part that is hot. tho that is rare
@TH-cam Account def
@@unorganized_account PowerPCs don't run super hot, anyway, it should be fine.
I'm not even a fan of macs, but yet i enjoy these videos.
Thanks!
see back then they were more computer like now aways there some wierd offbrand expensive garbage
@@1NIGHTMAREGAMER I mean i can tell, they ACTUALLY AREN'T CRAP! I don't hate on mac users, nor do i plan to. But lord fix your shit, Apple.
@@HoboVibingToMusic yes and no I'm saying I feel bad for Mac users cause there screwing them outa money
@@1NIGHTMAREGAMER Ah, Understandable!
This is the result of pushing hardware to the absolute Macs
obsolete*
@@VocalOfficial r/woooosh
i see what you did there :)
P U N I N T E N D E D O R N O T ?
Ha very punny
This is the sort of awesome content that I read in articles on LowEndMac years back, and I'm super happy to see someone doing high-quality TH-cam videos on it!
I remember running this OS on a DELL latitude d505. It was my first hackintosh, went perfectly great and I even discovered I could upgrade it to 10.5 leopard. Awesome
I bought a Pismo in 2000 and used it for design work (QuarkXpress) and light video editing (FCP 1.0 - 3.0) . In May 2007 I bought the Daystar G4 550 upgrade. And yep -- they sent you a nice padded box and you had to send the computer to them in it. I still have the receipt in my email -- $639 for the XLR8 Machspeed G4 550 upgrade + 1GB Ram upgrade. That heatsink got HOT under load and I became accustomed to popping the keyboard off with the latches to "air it out" to avoid crashes. I gave it to my niece in 2010 when I went with a hacktosh laptop .... and I never saw the Pismo again :)
I had two of these laptops in middle school and I loved them. To me, these were the epitome of classic Macintosh. Keep up the awesome videos!
Just FYI, I've done a bunch of tests with Xbench on my PPC Macs (including my 550Mhz Pismo G4). I have found Xbench to not be particularly reliable. I made a thread about it on macrumors.
I can guarantee you that your graphics performance is much higher regardless of what xbench tells you. I have two other G4 upgraded G3 macs, and the graphics difference is huge. Your numbers were close enough to be in the margin of error anyways.
Disk tests are where I found the most discrepancies with the app. I basically got random numbers with disk tests. I could swap to an SSD and score lower. Or have a TiBook score as much as my G5. My G5 actually scores lower in just about everything than my 1.67Ghz PBG4, and my 1.5Ghz PBG4 which is indentical except for it as 128MB vram vs 64MB, and 2GB of ram vs 1GB on the 1.67. Yet the 1.67 beats it like its a C2D? Okay xbench.
Also, you should have networking in SL beta. That version of safari is too old to load anything. Open TenFourFox, it'll work and load pages.
Is really impressive to see this machine handle MacOS 10.6, i thought that was impossible.
Amazing video,
He doesn't call it "Impossible cat" for nothing
Awesome video! It’s always cool to see just how modular these systems are, dedicated CPU PCBs are also super convenient and cool to have!
You would enable QuartzGL in Snow Leopard, it’ll boost your performance quite a bit!
You'd likely get much better scores, especially graphics and disk scores, if you did a clean install of the latest G4 supported version of OSX (leopard?). The machine might select more appropriate KEXTs etc. I'm not saying that the install you've got isn't running well etc, but nothing beats a clean install for the hardware you've got.
I think the artifacting was a feature of early builds of 10.6. I distinctly remember the issue (and its resolving when redrawing a selection box or something over it) occurring on officially supported hardware.
I upgraded my Pismo to a G4 using NewerTech back in 2002, but it was a bit of a nightmare. You just sent in the processor card and not the entire machine, but I ended up have two faulty cards and was made to wait for literally months to finally get a fully working one. On the bright side, I still have the upgraded machine and it is still working fine.
Dude u r my tech support when you did the g4 cube I did the exact thing and got it to run Minecraft with optifine mod thanks for the amazing content you make keep up the good work
Haha that's amazing to hear man!!
I expected this dude to have at least 100k subs. Now I am feeling a bit sad.
Interesting upgrade, don't think Minecraft took too kindly to the Rage Mobility 128 though, and neither did Quartz Extreme on 10.6. Quite likely the fan in this Pismo has never powered on until you did this upgrade - with the stock 400MHz G3 in mine at least it never has run. Don't think it is speed controlled so it's either off or full blast, the latter is very noisy!
I saved for months from my first real job to get a pismo, loved that laptop!
They look so classy
@Action Retro:
The amount is correct, but you shouldn't use conductive (as-in: electrically conductive) thermal paste like that Artic Silver 5, it's very liquid and it can drip on components and short them (ask me how I know), you should use something like Cooler Master's Master Gel Maker, that isn't conductive and it's more thick and won't move from its place. Or some of the thermal pastes meant to be a thermal pad replacement. Just a suggestion.
It's blowing my mind how much upgradability all these macs of this vintage seem to posess.
I never used apple products, especially then; but that's when they were enticing to me, and I now realize processed a lot of design philosophy I really respect and desire.
I'd be real upset if I were a fan then, with the landscape now.
I guess those scores do kinda show how the G4s real party trick was the Velocity Engine. The raw scores in floating point and GCD show less of an improvement, albeit still a good one when you look at them as a percentage increase.
The 7400 (and 10) were basically just G3s with AltiVec. But at the same time, vector math really is an improvement.
First PowerBook I bought was a Pismo, got it refurbished from a recycling center. Awesome machine. Thinking about doing this upgrade on mine now.
Greetings from Poland! Nice test! I am tempted to look for such an Upgrade. I have only one (but very important for me) question. ... did it start MacOS 9.2.1 after changing the processor?
Two things. That amount of paste was perfect. Second is im not a fan of mac, but you make me like watching theses videos! great stuff man!
I would like to do this with my 500mhz g3 pismo, i replaced the battery cells in my battery so it lasts an awefull long time on battery now, about 4,5 hours, my screen received a new backlight because it had a pink tint that wouldn't go away, but now the screen is as good as new with no dead pixels, and i had a broken wallstreet (dead mobo) with a functional door on the back, so i took the door off, i sanded it down to fit the pismo and it looks like the original door, only from up close you can tell that the door isn't the original but its good enough for me, my pismo was my dads, it had a rough life, but with all the work i have done on it, it looks actually very good, i am proud of my pismo that will serve me well.
Loved it I saved a pismo from the recycling center it is a rarer 500ms g3 with 256 mg of ram and I live it and uses it almost every day
That’s so cool!
@@MaxOakland thank you
Pretty wild to see Snow Leopard running, pushing the Pismo way above its limits, love it. Sweet G4 upgrade!
If I remember correctly .. You can move or remove a resistor somewhere on the daughter card and clock it to 800MHz.
I have some G43/G4 PPC junk bagged up from years ago that would work in this and the cube.
next week's video " Can we stuff a Dual 1GHz in the cube?!?! "😆
Im really glad Ive found you as I really enjoy retro tech in general. I actually watch or rather listen to your videos to fall asleep cause your commentary is really relaxing! :D
Hah thanks!
Wow Great UpGrade Sean I Did not Know They Did Processor Upgrades For Those Pismos
Indeed, Thermal Pasting is the Operation game of TH-cam and you managed to not touch the sides. Well done.
I've been repairing, and building computers since the late 80's when I was a wee lad, and I can say the amount of thermal compound you put on the CPU was just about right, but personally I like to take a thermal compound spludger, and spread it out a bit so it makes full contact, as heatsinks don't always put even pressure on the chip, and some spots don't get covered. 👍
I've used a razor blade to spread it as well. The spludger may be a safer alternative....🤔
This might quite possibly be my favorite Mac of any I've ever owned.
Own this model and, I feel it is the best designed laptop Apple Computer ever made. With dual “hot changeable” right and left side expansion bays, upgradable RAM, upgradable Hard Drive, and upgradable Power PC processor, plus two USB ports and two Fire-wire 400 ports it had it all for a system built 20-years ago. Even today, whenever I am using mine it always brings a smile to my face.
you know, I got purchased this computer in almost mint condition, max ram and already ssd mod. I'm in search of the G4 mod now, apparently not only is hard to find, but very expensive, regardless of who made it. You channel and videos are sick, a motivation for guys like me that love old hardware, please keep at it. Do you have any G3 clamshell videos ?
That firewire drive is such a good idea i've made my own!
I agree, that's a healthy amount of thermal compound :)
Doppelgänger: My sister was a teacher for the San Diego school district and she introduced me to a 128k. I invested several years learning about computers by purchasing over 60+ retro Apple-Macintosh computers; Centra, Performa, Wallstreet, ColorClassics, Duo Docs, printers and a lot of their accessories. I spent a lot of hours downloading Apple PDFs. Years ago, I did a catch-and-release and took most of these CPUs to goodwill so others could continue the Evangelism. Please support Mr Action Retro and other retro gurus. Today, I still have some of the older ram chips. Now I have to get this Thinkpad monkey off my back. I wish I had joined some of these cool-kids back-in the-day but your never to old to have fun.
Looks like QuartzExtreme just ain’t having it
Their is a software patch for quartzextreme
@@Ironapple09 To make it run well on a Pismo!?
@@askhowiknow5527 Prob not
*YOU USED THE PERFECT AMOUNT OF THERMAL COMPOUND!!!!!!*
My first Mac laptop was the Pismo. I loved it. I still have it. I put some sort of CPU upgrade in it. I don't remember off the top of my head. I think it was a 1Ghz G3. In fact, I have two of them.
Cool upgrade! I just got a PowerBook Pismo yesterday! I just need a power adapter...
Wow never expected the G4 Chip in the PowerBook G3 To run OS X 10.6 Beta on it that's just mind blowing O_O
I'm not a fan of macs, but for some reason I'm drawn here. Keep up the great videos! You just got another sub.
nice, I saw Star Trek Voyager in the games folder you got there. I love that game
I still use my Pismo daily for writing books, screenplays, lyrics to my music, making slide shows, editing jpgs, and on and on. The G4 processor I have is ill and I would love to get another G4 processor. Reward for finding one for me. Thanks
I just got my iBook G3 Clamshell and changed the hard drive and now I feel inspired to change it to an SSD instead
It’s a good upgrade. I’ve heard it can really increase the speed
As long as you don't put so much conductive compound on that it squishes out and contacts other components on the board, then the amount is usually not a problem. It's actually more troubling to use too little. If you really want good insurance and you don't need the absolute best thermal performance you can get, then go ahead and use non-conductive thermal compound with ceramic particulate instead of silver or carbon-based particulate heat conductors. That way you can safely glop on however much you want without any real risk to the surface-mount components on the chip. Having said all that, the amount you applied was perfectly fine. Good enough to ensure complete die coverage without squishing all over the surface-mount components. A resounding success.
congrats! i have a powerbook pismo upgraded with a 867mhz g4 upgrade and a radion 9200 64mb GPU and 1gb of ram and a dvd drive and even a floppy drive os x sees the floppy as a 1.44mb external hdd! lol! i dual boot mac os lepord 10.5.7 and ubuntu 12.10 on my pismo. i think all that laggyness in SL 10.6 beta was that 16mb ati mobilty rage 128 i ran that thing in lepord oce and it has all of those artifacts also so its gpu wise and also nice job i didnt even think that it could boot the SL10.6 PPC beta! oh also i ran lepord on a old 450 poermac g4 quicksilver with a 8mb ati Xpernt 98 8mb and it was like 10 times worse! anyway congrats! great vid! (im commenting now on the pismo it does 720p youtube fine in icewesaal PPC)
Patreon Supporter here! Glad to be one! Also, why not hunt down an ancient version of FCP to see the video editing performance on that thing? lol
Haha that's a great idea man!
Oh and don't forget, illustrious mod on Discord!
@@ActionRetro XD Our server is quite tame but I try and look out for potential trouble makers. Glad to be of service ;)
@@ActionRetro I used to edit 720P in FCP 3.0 on a Pismo. If I remember correctly FCP 3.0 didn't understand the (at the time) "new" complex codecs like x264 so the clips had to be pre-converted into either DV or Apple Animation Codec. These converted source files grew huge (I had to store them on a portable firewire 400 drive,) but you just need to get FCP 3 to understand them so you could render the proxies within FCP at 1/4 rez. Using proxies, you could edit cool stuff like 16:9 video in real time!
Oh yeah, that dreaded "untested" description...sigh.
You should do a video of Linux running on a PPC Mac, I'd be quite interested in that!
The thermal paste liked perfect.
I wonder if the test results were due to having to reset the machine to defaults.... Did it perform better after another restart or two?
Had a Pismo until selling it in 2008. Threw a ‘Fast Mac’ G4/550 CPU daughter card in and it worked really well with optimized apps. But the Intel Mac Book Pros were just too good to pass over and I needed the extra green.
Can you go into more detail about why Apple released a beta version of Snow Leopard for PowerPC? I never knew about that. It’s crazy
Basically just because there was no reason not to, everyone was testing it on Intel hardware by then anyway, and knew it would be Intel only, so nobody really bothered caring about PPC Snow Leopard. They only worked on so many things at a time, and eventually enough components would be x86 only that it would fail to boot on PPC anyway, so... why spend the time explicitly turning off PowerPC compilation on builds nobody would ever see? By 10A190 it was an unstable, buggy mess on PPC with few working components, and that was long before release.
Everytime I see Pismo, All I can think of is Futurama " The Gizmo for Pismo.... Beach"
I really enjoyed this video. Those older Apple laptops are way more interesting that newer ones and honestly this sparked my idea to get one myself for some tasks like music making in retro fashion. This would be great, but I'm kinda worried it wouldn't work as good as I think it would. Still, really exciting idea. Thank you for making those videos!
That'd be cool. I worked in a theatre years ago and an act came through. A guy had an infrared MIDI controller he waved his hands through to change parameters. It was hooded up to a Powerbook either 150 or 170. This was in about 2002 or 2003.
Old firewire audio interfaces can't be fetching too much nowadays.
Nice video!
I only have 1 PPC Mac
iMac G5 Rev A, 2GB RAM, PowerPC G5 1.8 GHz,Nvidia GeForce MX 5200 Ultra.
I would love if you did a thing with any G5 Mac.
He's done a video where he tried to upgrade the hard drive in a Power Mac G5 to an SSD. I'm not gonna spoil that one, though
Welcome back to this old Pismo!
I had one long time ago. I loved that laptop.
Whenever I apply thermal paste, I don’t rely on the heat sink to squish it to a nice even coverage. I spread it myself, first. Honestly, people getting their panties in a twist over thermal paste application are ignoring one thing: as long as you have ENOUGH thermal paste, you’re fine. I go by the rule “spread it like Vegemite, not like Nutella”, which should mean nothing to anyone outside of Australia, but honestly, the inefficiencies of using too much thermal paste are tiny, and the consequences far better than using not enough.
It would have been hilarious if you dumped the entire tube of thermal compound just to get comments lol
A little notice: i saw something horrifying when you installed the cpu card back into the machine, you only want to put pressure on the bottom right corner where the card connects to the main board, if you push on the top right, you actually can cause some serious problems, my dad did this once with my mom's pismo after a ram upgrade, he pushed on both sides, and when the machine was back together and my mom turned it on, smoke came out of the laptop, because the ram got dislodged from the slot due to the pressure he putted where it wasn't needed and that caused the cpu board to die, he found a replacement module pretty quickly, but in modern times, it could be quite the opposite.
I actually had one of the G3s that dosdude1 himself modded up. T'was a 550MHz G4 and him or someone else grafted a SuperDrive into one of the expansion bays. Looked like garbage, but it worked!
Thing did run stupid hot though. In fact if you actually removed the keyboard and touched the heat sink while it was running you'd definitely burn yourself. I never liked to run it for extended periods of time because of that.
Passed it off to a friend of mine because while I had grandiose plans for it (battery rebuild maybe?) it was one of those things I felt I was never going to get around to.
The compound application could have been a little better centered, and I would have used just a tiny bit more, and I’d have used a different paste entirely (I’m partial to Noctua’s NT-H1) but A. It’s not my machine and B. It pretty much doesn’t matter for this application, it probably doesn’t run hot enough for minute details like that to matter just as long as you have *something* there. I also believe that you cleaned off the remnants of an old thermal pad, not paste, which bolsters my assertion.
Another thing, some tests were probably slower because your G4 doesn’t appear to have any level 2 cache. I might have missed it in the listing but for your G3 it said it had 1024K, but no such line in your test on the G4.
Stuff like this makes me want to get ahold of a cheap iBook to kick around OS X, but then I got one, and I kind of went, “Okay, this is cool... so, what now?” Because as a Windows/Linux guy myself, I find the software library of PPC Macs in particular to be a big limit.
Good amount of thermal compound! People who randomly yell at people for putting "too much" or "too little" thermal compound need to learn how it spreads lol.
Yep, but from over 30 years of experience in repairing, and building computers, I personally like a take thermal compound spludger, and make sure the whole chip is covered, as I've seen heatsinks that don't provide enough mounting pressure, and when some thermal compounds spread out from just mounting pressure they don't make full coverage of the chip.
The Pismo was the best Powerbook/MacBook ever. It had every single port and expansion.
I actually had a Pismo that I upgraded to a G4. I know it was over 20 years ago because it was way before I retired 20 years ago. Gave it to a nephew don't remember why.
12:05 OpenGL is much faster on the G4 as the cpu back then was in charge of 3d transformations. The gpu mainly just did texturing work and was in charge of output
Wow, Snow Leopard? More like SLOW Leopard! 😆 Speaking of making Mac OS run on machines it was never supposed to, I just installed Big Sur on my NUC! Have you ever built a hackintosh? I'm guessing it's a little out of scope for your channel though, since it seems like you're mostly focused on classic and PPC Macs.
Just recently got one of those Pismo bad boys but after a few hours once I actually got it the hard drive went bad and almost went to smoke the good news is it’s recoverable I’ve been meaning to replace with an SSD anyways
I really, really, REALLY miss Snow Leopard. I dropped away from the Mac after Lion. Could never get into the groove after Snow Leopard was done with.
Since, I am not a power user, I still use OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard on my main desktop. Have a 2010, Mac mini (the last model with a built-in DVD super-drive) paired with an Apple 27-inch cinema (none thunderbolt) display. I am still having fun running all my older OS X Power PC programs using Rosetta 1, my media using Front Row, and controlling my system using the white Apple remote control.
id have killed to get osx10.6 on PPC back in the day.
vary cool used to stair at the CPU upgrades in the magazines with eyes of hope as a kid with no money.
"firewire ssd" just sounds completely wrong..
It doesnt matter how much thermal paste u apply, as long as it covers the entire die.
That is why you should spread the thermal compound manually, so it wont be necessary to double check the application later on.
I just found mine to be in perfect condition so, I am determined to use this computer for music playing in the future with some DAC amp and studio monitors. I just need a new RAM HDD cable, and power adapter to have it work. Thank you for letting me know that SSDs can be used with the machine, I know the maximum HDD it can support is 128GB so I`m gonna go with that. The 500MHZ factory CPU board is in mine already.
By the way, how did you pump up the results? The new one shows 1024GB of RAM while the old one has 512MB. So, you know more ram means unleashed power.
Neat. Gave this vid the 1337th like.
Compared to modern Apple computers, this thing is impressive, even with a very slowly working OSX 10.6 prerelease.
I guess my experiences have been luckier than yours. Untested in my experience really does mean that. Gotten some awesome deals that way.
I got an untested T23 ThinkPad for like £30. Soldered the inductor that fell off back on (common issue) and it runs flawlessly. They're worth like £90 working according to eBay lol
Plenty of good games "could" run on this :) Quake 3 / Warcraft 3 / ONI ! they would at least run great on the souped up cube :D
12:16 I wonder if the rendering test slowdowns are from the amount of RAM? On PCs of that vintage, it wasn't always possible to cache 100% of the max RAM you could install in a motherboard, so lower-RAM configurations would outperform higher-RAM configurations, all other components being the same.
Software graphics rendering depends heavily on RAM being cached; maybe the same thing is happening here?
You're really starting to take the Pismo with this series...
Not sure Minecraft wouldn’t run correctly on that, I remember running Minecraft on an iBook G3 Snow on Tiger. Java 5 of course but that’s because Java 6 DP was kind of iffy sometimes for me. 1.5.2 with Optifine on a G3 ran alright in multiplayer. Lowering the resolution a bit, little surprised it performed close to that iMac G4 I have despite being probably the lowest end model for CPU.
Interesting, I wonder why it wouldn't launch for me
Wonder what speed your snow G3 is? Later ones came with the faster Radeon graphics chips, though those are prone to failing due to inadequate cooling.
@@ActionRetro Maybe it's because the video card is too old. I'd try it under SL because it looks like that's using software rendering. Software rendering will be slow af but it will probably be more likely to run.
@@nitrax8629 nope mine was a rage 128 mobility
No QE/CI on Tiger at all
@@ActionRetro Try reinstalling Java, start with Java 5, and then the DP Java 6. Minecraft had Java 5 support until 1.6 so 1.5.2 and lower should run
Damm, well build, upgradable computer with nice expandability, all what the mac is not anymore......
It reminds me the Amiga where the CPU are on cards and allow it to expand on PPC from 68000 easily.
Nice, but I am surprised that no 3rd party created an "Intel" upgrade CPU board for the pismo, given the RAM, CPU, and possibly what appears to be the BIOS and/or even other key components located on the same board, it should't be a too monumental task to, lets say, create an Intel i5 board with two DDR4 SODIMM slots. The Pismo laptop would only be limited by the performance of the 90's integrated GPU, unless that too happens to be included in the same board, if that's the case, then doing a total upgrade would be possible on the very same hardware.
Alright, my take would be that it has never been done because there would probably be some roadblocks that would make something like this not work, otherwise, some 3rd party manufacturer would have created plenty of Intel CPU board upgrades for the Pismo by now.
Bus speed.
I just got a Pismo. P-Ram was borked of course. But it runs, even has a whopping. 128mb of ram.
I've got the model before the Pismo, the Bronze Keyboard. Great machine, shame the battery is dead.
sounds like an opportunity to rip the guts out of it and replace the battery cells with new.
I tried to buy one of the 900 MHz G3’s for the Pismo. They kept putting me off. I got the sense that they never actually shipped.
Aw man, that sucks!
As a long time Pismo owner yes, a third party vendor did sell a 900 MHz G3 upgrade card. However, according to people who tested it back in the day, it was an over clocked G3 which, worked fine but did make the bottom of the laptop very hot. In addition, there was both a upgrade G4 at 500 MHz version from one vendor and another upgrade G4 at 550 MHz version from a different vendor. According to the Fast Mac web site their upgrade G4 550 MHz card did not use an over clocked processor.
I have been looking for one of these processor upgrades for years.,
Good grief are there ANY machines we don't own in common? Maybe I missed it, but where does that G4 daughter card come from? Was it stock on another machine?
Now we need Crysis on a G4 Cube, with all those upgrades it should work right? Oh and you can only use Os9.
Na man it's gotta be Crysis Warhead 😉
Another great video!
They may be getting slower because its bottle necking across the buss. They may have to run double clock waits to get data across the bus to the graphics and disk drives.
This is like running Big Sur on a 2008 MacBook Air. Very much possible with a patch, albeit very slow.
enjoy the vid nice upgrade
I’d never heard of a PPC version of Snow Leopard! What is this magic?
Do you think the G3 1Ghz card would run the 10.6 beta better?
You should try installing Debian PowerPC to REALLY bring that old PPC macbook up to date; well at least around circa 2010 where Debian stopped PPC development, but anyway, you probably could surf the web with Firefox 2010-version 500% better than with Safari under macos
There's a modern distro, Adelie, that I really want to try on here. I have it on my G3 iMac already and it's pretty fast even there!
@@ActionRetro Great, it's based on Debian and it took off from Jessie's ending
if u rly wanna like this laptop, u should prolly replace the stock heatsink with some copper thingy...surely they make em from copper right?
I enjoy this greatly
I kinda wish you had a second, broken one of those, so that you could have
a) used gallons
b) of toothpaste or mayonnaise,
c) spread it around with a butterknife (maybe with some jelly on it to make it look used for comedic effect)
d) and then hit it with a hammer.
🤣🤣🤣