Five Good & Five Bad Things! 2022 Subaru Forester Wilderness
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 21 ก.ค. 2022
- Jill Ciminillo put over 450 miles on the 2022 Subaru Forester Wilderness and has updated her thoughts on this vehicle that she first drove back in the Fall. In this video, she lists five good things and five bad things, and in the end, determines if she still likes the Subaru Forester Wilderness after spending the week with it. Would she buy one? Watch to find out!
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Turn on the turning signals when you have to move away from the lane. Lane assist will disengage.
Women😂☕️
I own a Wilderness and I enjoy having the cams using two screens it helps with parallel parking.
I have had my SFW for 5 months. Yes, that cubby hole is useless (I installed an aftermarket wireless charger from AMZ that fits in there). No, the steering assist doesn't bother me as I only use it on highway driving. If you activate the turn signal prior to lane change (which you should anyway) the steering assist is released until lane change is complete. I know all Manufacturers fudge the MPG# so I always subtract 3 from the sticker of 25/28. I will wait until the car gets broken in (at least 3K) before give a final ruling. Right now (last trip) I was at 25.3 (70%H 30%C). Try leaving the transmission in ( I ) mode or maybe you are driving with a lead foot. I am at a loss to explain why your mileage and mine differ so much.
I bought a 2022 Forester Premium in California not quite 2 months ago, and I have fallen in love with Subarus all over again.
I used to own a 1984 Subaru Hatchback for 10 years/100,000 miles with a 1600cc engine, got 42 MPG highway, and it drove/handled in the snow/ice like a champ with only FWD. I only sold it to buy a larger car for an expanding family.
I've gotten 35 MPG with my Forester on highway driving between 65 and 70 MPH. When driving faster, I usually get 33+ MPG. Combined MPG is usually about 28 to 29 MPG.
For highway driving from Pittsburgh to the outer banks NC I got 33mpg in my forester wilderness. That’s with luggage and 4 people as well. Granted I wasn’t pushing 80 the whole time but it’s good road trips. As a guy, I find it relatively easy to overpower the steering assist but I do understand the frustration.
Overall I absolutely love my forester wilderness. It had no issues with the 4x4 beach and is a great daily driver. HIGHLY recommend
I’m getting less than 20 mpg in city driving in this thing. The main reason is lack of power in the naturally aspirated engine, I’m typically closer to 3,000 rpm just to keep up with freeway traffic here in SoCal. This car could really use a turbocharged V6 with like 300 hp, it would have been awesome. Love everything else about it though.
My wrx drops to like 14-16mpg in the city with the closest relative turbo engine that the forester could get.
I agree a v6 or something bigger would be better.
I personally don’t See the bads as bad at all. I love my wife’s wilderness ✌🏻
Have a 2022 Forester Premium in NZ. Done 4000 kms mixed driving and have averaged 7.4 l/100 km which I am happy with. An annoying thing is a marked hesitation / jerk at 1300 - 1400 rpm on very light throttle. Feels like a misfire but no fault codes. Back to dealer next week to see if they can fix it.
What a refreshingly honest review. At least that was my impression. You had me in suspense at the end but I liked and agreed with your answer. Thanks for sharing. :)
The Steering Assist is also called Lane Keep / Centering Assist. It makes sure that the vehicle is in between the two lanes. It can also be called as the "No hands driving until it tells you to put hands on the steering wheel". 😂 That's why it is somewhat difficult to control the wheel when it is activated.
Awesome review!! Thanks for talking about actual practical issues that other reviewers never talk about. Would you ever go RAV over Forester?
First, thanks for the personal review. I have a Wilderness, approximately 7,000 miles, I’ve averaged 25.6 mpg so be patient. I’m also annoyed a bit at the lane keep mode, I had a 2020 Touring and it wasn’t as aggressive, the touch screen graphics don’t bother me, the cubby for charging phones makes me wonder, as great as the changes for this model are, the awesomeness of its off road capabilities are, whoever thought that mini space is adequate should look for a new line of work! But considering the more aggressive tires and suspension and CVT upgrades this model is a home run😎👍
Safety system is poor, it sees glare as lines and moves the car. Distance slams on the brakes. Cubby is worthless. Radio turns itself back on after turning off the car so I don’t use the infotainment or radio in my car. Mileage in mine is identical. Driving it home with 4 miles on it the console rattled but got it fixed. One touch windows and roof are nice. Backup camera is great. Seats and mats are awesome. The door handle open and lock took some getting used to. Still like the car but don’t love it like an older one.
When she is standing in front of that forester it looks like a full sized SUV.
I got fooled by that 😂
Same here..makes that thing look as big as a Grand Cherokee!
Lol when I took a picture of my wife next to our 4Runner, the car just looked absolutely massive next to her. It’s wild. To think I sort of want a Sequoia lol
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I have a 2019 in australia. Just did a 5000 kilometre round trip interstate, mixed highway, suburbs and off ride trails …. totally loved the drive, great lights for the night, auto hi, auto wipers, seat comfort, variable speed, eyesight system …. Etc etc. had the 2019 Nissan xtrail (top of range) 4x4 … the ford Everest turbo 3.2 diesel, now the forester…. Totally enjoy the driving … yep, pain in the but, switching off the auto stop/start and the lane assist … but hey, getting 7.3-7.8 litres per 100 is and that’s with roof boot racks and stuff up top, fridge, gear and a bed in the boot/rear …. We probably will not see the wilderness here …. So I’ll stick with what I’ve got …. Happy trails … ✌🏼
I have high frequency hearing loss and this is the only car I have driven that I can here the turn signal. I sure like my little Spartan 2006 Forester though, it's more nimble. I'm keeping it as a daily driver and will use the Wilderness for adventures.
My 21 Forester Sport EASILY gets 33-35 on the highway if you keep it under 70. I know the wilderness is a little more thirsty, but not that much. You must have been going 90 or had the tires under inflated.
Just bought a 2022 Outback Wilderness and I totally agree with the safety system flaws.
Another thing, I love AVH and it defaults to OFF every time you restart. It's only 2 clicks away but still, ANNOYING!
I’m curious what other driver’s mpg experience has been. My crosstrek had heavier tires which took it down quite a bit. I was getting around 23mpg.
GREAT, AND ACCURATE REVIEW! I have a Subaru Ascent Limited with 50,000 miles on it. GREAT car. I love and trust Subarus. But you are SO right! The STEERING ASSIST "feature"(?)l.....IS ABSOLUTE JUNK AND SHOULD BE DELINEATED FROM ALL NEW SUBARU PRODUCTS. Oddly.....YOU are the very first reviewer that I have watched.....that actually shows people that it can be shut off! The others all call it a "flaw" with the new Subarus. Very accurate review.....of a really terrific car.
I'm totally with you on the lane assist complaint. I had an opportunity to drive the 2021 Forester Sport for a couple months this summer, and in many ways it was a huge upgrade over my '16 XT, but I really didn't like how much I felt like I was arguing with safety features all the time. The car was beeping at me relentlessly every time I drove, and I wasn't even being unsafe. I'm still getting the '22 Wilderness, but it'll take some time for me to not be irritated by that.
I believe you can turn the beeping off in the settings. First thing Id do with mine.
Yes, I currently have a 2020 Sport and the assist system took some getting used to. I still love it but it is annoying.
Needs a manual trans option on the wilderness
I just use the lane centering feature when I need to take my hands off the wheel for a few seconds, like when I put on my sunglasses or I want to take a quick picture with my iPhone.
Here in Europe we even do not have the opportunity to get this model and engine. Only green related underpowered 150 HP micro-hybrid. Regarding the bad things explained, I got the same consola on my 2019 Crosstreck so it really doesn’t bother me! Subaru is a great car and cheap to maintain over time.
Thanks Jill , would like to see one for the Outback wilderness for comparison
I love its off roading capability
I have the steer assist on my Crosstrek, you kidding? This is a great feature! If you're turning, use your blinkers correctly (like you should) and this feature doesn't fight you. Also on the road, if you have to look down, get something or whatever this feature will drive your car hands free temporarily. When this feature alarms you to put your hands back on the wheel, it is still working; it just doesn't shut off. Great feature...
Respectfully, having driven the newer cars (I had to have my ‘15 Crosstrek in the shop for a couple weeks, during which time I had a loaner 2022 Outback), I totally disagree and agree with what she says in the video. I turned driver assist off every time, because it was WAY too aggressive and counterproductive.
Being close to the steering wheel is the best. I have shorter legs so I have to sit that close. Short legs are our best friend. Jill u are the best
Just picked up a 2023. Idk if I’m just lucky, or they did some tuning for the 2023, but I’m running between 65-70 mph with the ac running on a trip as we speak. 144 miles in and the car says I’m averaging 34.5 mpg. Cars not even broke in yet. 405 miles on the dash. Maybe Subaru resolved the complaints? Also have the tires 1 pound over the sticker.
My mileage in my FW is in the upper 20s in mixed driving, so I'm getting a bit over the EPA estimate.
Was there any windshield issues? Lots of broken / cracked windshields. It kept me from buying one. I went with Kia Sorento SX Prestige Turbo. Glad I did.
Love my Subaru! 2023 outback wilderness!
Ive been trying to find something wrong with this vehicle and i cant lol. Most complaints are either personal preference or just based on how people drive. Seems yo be a solid vehicle
every forester sport I have bought my wife the phone system gave her trouble , I know it’s a minor thing , but it’s still in a new car. I was just going to trade her 2021 Forrester in, and was debating on another Sport or a Wilderness, she has gotten a few more miles per gallon than the Wilderness gets
Nicer sound system and piano black removed from the interior would be nice
You can adjust the lane keep assist how aggressive/none aggressive you want it.
No, it's either off or on (just bought a 2022 Outback Wilderness)
I have a new Crosstrek and it’s adjustable in the info menu. I imagine the Forester W would have the same capability. I’ve been testing one and I only got partway into checking that so…
@@Bryskate68 On the Outback LKA is either ON or OFF. The cruise control is adjustable for distance and so is cruise control aggressive "catch up" but nope, not LKA
I also wonder if the bigger tires make you lose something compared to the Sport? power, etc, it seemed like the beefed up the tranny a bit , and changed the shift pattern
Wow I had a 2015 and got as high as 40 mpg on a regular basis driving 110 miles a day.
After 1200 mil on highway i have 27.2 MPG. Please reset a trip odometer and don't spend a time on resting area while engine on.
2 things I thought were wrong here, imo.
For your last complaint, I completely disagree with calling the lane centering aid as a "safety system". Idk why you called it that when you correctly labeled it as a driving aid first.
The thing is not going to drive for you and do all the things you would as a driver. It's there to aid you on a long drive or maybe a short straight /proper road and does what it's meant to which is keep your vehicle between lanes and only that. First time driving this vehicle i also thought it was going to do most of the driving with little to no input but after driving through a construction zone the eyesight didn't catch that original lanes were still visible and they lead directly to a concrete barricade, had I trusted the system like a dumb dumb I would've crashed on day 1 of owning this vehicle.
(also if you use your turn signals to make a turn or switch lanes it disengages for you so you can properly move the steering wheel and then it turns back on afterwards)
The last thing was your MPG. Even during the first hundreds of mile I was getting 21.5 of mixed driving and 27+ in the highway depending if it was a windy day and what not. I have no idea why your hway miles are so low
looks like Subaru knows what off-roading features to pun on their cars!
Nice POV
We have a 2021 base model Forester and a 2017 Mazda CX-5 and I much prefer driving the Mazda. The only thing I like more in the Forester are the giant windows and visibility. The driving experience, road noise, mpg, AWD system all seem better in the older Mazda
Mazda is a great driver’s vehicle!
No love for a full-sized spare tire?
Yes, That sucks. That’s Subaru Not caring about their customers
@@Doc1855 ?? The Forester does come with a full-sized spare.
@@3rdRockRider Only the Forester Wilderness comes with a full size spare. The rest come with the donut spare and the new Soltera EV comes with NO spare
YES! That is ONE of the main reasons for looking at this model. My current 3rd gen RAV4 has a full sized spare as does my Colorado...we had a harrowing experience with our HIGH$$$$ Volvo XC90 the provided fix a flat and it's huge tires when my wife was coming home from a work trip! If you're not concerned about whether you have a full sized spare you haven't experienced a roadside emergancy without one.
I’ve been complaining to Subaru about the “Safety” features of the car. Far to many issues. Some glitchy and some just down right dangerous. Like the car slamming on the breaks. Eye sight and driver monitoring does not take into consideration turns in road. Agree that the drive assist is useless.
Wonder if the tires and higher ground clearance hurt fuel mileage. Our Subaru Forester Sport gets 28-30 around town and 30-33 on the height way. Only gets bad mileage in the winter with winter fuel. Very much agree on the steering Assisi usually turn it off when driving my wife’s Forester. We also turn off in winter because it thinks snow along the road is the line.
The biggest thing in the Wilderness editions (i just bought a 2022 Outback Wilderness) that hurt fuel economy is the lower gear ratios. Not sure on the Forester W but the Outback W has a 444 ratio which is quite low and gives you the torque you want and need. OBW highway MPG is rated even lower than the FW MPG at only 26 but worth it if your going off road!
@@HomesteadOnThePreserve sounds like the Forester W lost quite a bit also. My wife gets 30 mpg running around with her Forest Sport and the Wilderness edition doesn’t come close to that I’ve seen. Guessing AT tires hurt the mileage too.
@@bobdennis4801 Yes, a little loss of MPGs with tires and a tiny bit due to lift. Add the big factor of gear ratio running high RPMs at highway speeds and there goes the fuel economy.
Does it have adequate power to pass?
Thanks for the review. But as far as gas mileage goes...without knowing your driving habits, speed, and terrain you're driving on...the mpgs dont tell us much.
Highway congestion is worse than city driving. Probably why your fuel economy is suffering.
Road noise? Please.... I find the hood a bit flimsy driving over 80mph... Otherwise I love it. 👍
I hate having to tourn off the Eyesight and fuel saver EVERY time I drive my '19 Sport. They both suck, I avoided a huge accident a couple years ago with human skills and Eyesight off, in my view it can actually cause a wreck.
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Totally agree with the system being too invasive
Gas milage doesn't seem to be good =(, I hoped it would be closer to ~26 on average. Would you buy this car for yourself? =) If not this one, what else?
thanks for the review!
For mixed daily driving around 35-40 miles round trip I average about 26mpg in mine. If I drive it nice and easy I can get 28 but for long road trips on the highway you can very easily get 30-33
@@Ryan__C98 these numbers are quite a bit better than my chinky 3rd gen RAV4 4x4! Slightly disappointing compared to say a stock Crosstrek, but acceptable I think.
Geez avg 23.7 mpg that’s barely better than my buddies stock 4Runner.
What’s the worst mpg you have ever seen driving your wilderness? Still deciding whether to get the Sport or wilderness.
This was a review vehicle we had for 7 days FYI.
@@Pickuptrucktalk I thought it was a personal car. Thank you!
@@MemoriesOutdoors_AJ Try my friend Ryan's channel. He has a lot of Subaru content and buys vehicles for long-term testing: www.youtube.com/@drivingsports
I never use steering assist. It blows
I have the 2022 Wilderness and I hate the lane departure warning so annoying
Then stay in the lines and use your turn signals then you won't have to worry about it. Case closed
How much you pay for it out the door? If you don’t mind
Needs the turbo engine as an option.
I agree!
That and a 7 speed manual transmission option with a crawler gear like what's available on the Ford Bronco.
I like the flat load floor when the rear seats are folded down. Is it long enough that a 6' person can lay down?
I've never been a fan of adaptive cruise control because there are times when a slightly slower vehicle gets in front of you and your car gradually slows down. If you're not paying 100% attention, you can end up driving along at a slower speed than you initially set. It's happened to me in my wife's Outback and in tractor-trailers where the cruise is set for, say, 70 but eventually, I realize I'm only doing 65. I'd much rather work the cruise control myself rather than rely on the vehicle to do it for me.
I've never been a fan of all that heavy-looking body cladding, either, and the bronze accents seem sort of scattered. I'd much rather see a bronze alloy wheel and bronze accent stitching on the interior and leave it at that. Less is more sometimes.
I agree that the screen in the center stack looks ancient. But if it's functional and reacts quickly then I could live with that. I'm pleased that they stuck with knobs/buttons for the HVAC, too.
IIRC, the Wilderness Editions - both Forester and Outback - have a lower overall gear ratio than the rest of their lines so that could be a reason for the lower than desired fuel economy.
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Scale is deceptive, either your really small or forester is full sized SUV
8:08 sounds like you need a Honda
2:30 🤔 looks like a Honda Civic …not a wrx
Black headliner closes your space in and is depressing
Love the review that includes several hundred miles!
I’ll take mine right now with a 6speed manual tranny. Oh, not offered!
same
Those are a lot of complaints.
Need to redesign that headlamps disgusting 🤢
That grey looks cheap
I’m glad you like the 1990 Depressing Grey and Death Black interior. It makes me want to vomit 🤮.
When you get dirt on your boots, shoes etc it’s Never grey, it’s Always tan or brown.
She really didn't like the icons haha wtf i guess i need a masculine pov reviewer
This review sounds about white! Lol
You're only getting 23 miles per gallon with that little toy engine and car? I get 23 miles per gallon with my 2010 4400 lb all-wheel drive Ford Taurus on a so-so day! Subaru likes to improve everything except that toy engine they've done nothing with for 30 years, let's be real, a small 4-cylinder boxer engine is nothing for those vehicles, they need to get their shit together and enhance that thing!
Jesus dude 🤦
The thing that makes Subaru a no go for so many is not the vehicles- it’s the stereotypical type of person that drives them.
What’s that mean ?
@@brohammer snowflake liberal woke crowd
@@castandblast1852 As a Veteran I just watched as Republicans voted down a bill for cancer benefits to veterans exposed to burn pits. You obviously are not a veteran nor one who cares about those who are. And to the 42 Republican Senators that voted “no” today on the PACT ACT: we are coming for you. Your phones will not stop ringing, your offices will have veterans lined up outside for you daily. Come election time, get ready for us veterans to show up to your meet-and-greets - there, you’ll have to look us in the eye and tell us why we don't deserve our VA benefits to be expanded.
@@castandblast1852 if you like the cars buy it. Who cares about the stereotypical people 😂
@@castandblast1852 Don't worry, I'm thinking of buying one and I'm definitely NOT one of those.
You give a " valley girl " type of delivery. I know many people talk that way, but it doesn't sound " smart ". It's annoying.
you give a non educated type of delivery. it’s annoying.
🤮 The orange/copper/whatever accent stuff is just freakin cheesy and HIDEOUS!!! I really want this car but if I wanted goofy pointless style accents that were colored orange, I’d ask for that trim package. Hate that Subaru made a commitment to a style that pigeonholes this appearance of this car to the person who is okay with that orange-y garbage.
Need to redesign that headlamps disgusting 🤢