@@evangelicaldarkweb used to be into them because they were trendy at the corrupt Christian publisher I was at. before I found them woke I was just bored by them. Even if they weren't whiny or woke they would have nothing interesting to say.
He tries to play on emotions, feelings, and manipulate instead of I don't know preaching from the Bible. That's why there are so many Charismatic almost in tears pastors in this country, simply they are unqualified
The kid is trouble. There's about a dozen years of growing up needing to happen before he's ready to pastor people. It's apparent even in such a short interview reveal. Smelled this before. The young, under-disciplined always want to rule the world because they think they can do it better. And it always ends with another train-wrecked ministry, train-wrecked people, and/or a train- wrecked man.
just an FYI, Mike Kelsey offered a non-apology at a different MBC meeting. it was more of a "I'm sorry for the way you heard me" kind of thing. I believe I did see the video here on yt.
I heard Lon Solomon on the radio years before the change in the church. He was a solid Bible teacher. I definitely saw changes when he left the pulpit.
I remember seeing mike kelsey there in person back in 2015 or so. he looked super young and wearing pants too tight and i had an off feeling. unbelievable that he's now the head pastor of this mega church. unbelievable. smh. Back then, it was the original, founding pastor, Lon Solomon.
That guy is not in position to be a pastor: According to the Bible, a pastor must have the following qualifications: Be blameless Be in good standing in their marriage and immediate family Be patient, hospitable, and apt to teach Be MATURE and called in their life and in their faith Be able to preach Have some form of formal theology study Be respectable, hospitable, able to teach, not a bully but gentle, not quarrelsome Have a good reputation among outsiders Be a person of integrity and worthy of the respect of those both inside and outside the church If your mentality can be taken by the wiles of this world, and wanting to torch a group of people based on their race then you are not qualified to be a pastor. Plain and simple!
For the record: Kelsey DID apologize for the fact that his WORDS were "hurtful" to some--fortunately, only to white people. However, as any Christian should know, repentance is a change of more than just your words.
I don’t know a lot about Platt but when a man is plowing through scandal and pitches the change as a positive, talking about his excitement and “opportunities”, it comes off as insincere. Sounds corporate and scripted. And my intent with the comment isn’t to pile on the man needlessly, but only that it serves as a warning to others of us in ministry… we should speak straightly, naturally and manly.
Seems like the comment was taken a little bit out of context. she did ask him how he had been dealing with that. I don't like any of this woke mess, but just looking at this clip, it seems he just responded to a question.
Kelsey has been there since Solomon. He led their Frontline ministry under Lon with tremendous fruit. It's not like they hired a guy outside MBC. He was within. And he was one of Lon's guys. So all those who miss Lon, well.... A lot of this controversy are people who are afraid to open their Bible or afraid to read Jesus's words. It's not wokeness you're afraid of. You're just uncomfortable.
These comments are sad. First of all he has not step down. He is still a lead pastor. It’s a dual pastor model. God help y’all bring unity instead of division.
@@evangelicaldarkweb Thank you, I am aware of the year. My point is that word means many different things to many different people, I was wondering if you could define what it means to you because I could not discern what it was from this video.
@@Bluelizard0 Sorry if the following is obvious. (I'm partly writing it to practise summarising wokeness for myself.) The word "woke" is a dialect form of "awakened", specifically awakened to the (alleged) plight of black people, women, and LGBTQI++ people suffering racism, mysogyny, and "transphobia" everywhere, all their lives, at the hands of straight white men. People of any colour or sex can be "awakened" to this omnipresent oppression by having the theory pounded into them incessantly, mostly at school, until one day they give up their skepticism and disbelief and say, "Yes, I see it too now! I see white men oppressing everyone else literally everywhere, in the most innocent-seeming remark. The most helpful, respectful gesture or comment is always really filled with contempt for nonwhite people. I can detect it now just as my teachers and pastors have been telling me for years. I'm awake to it like them."
@@evangelicaldarkweb Totally wrong. I have attended that church for decades. Maybe you ought to go visit the church. David Platt still preaches almost every Sunday, and he is still lead pastor on the official church board. The one pastor of a church is an antiquated anti-scriptural way of running a church God is bringing down all of those churches who are manmade. The Lon Solomon church is ending that was built upon a man. Wake up instead of polluting half-truths and lies. God will hold you accountable.. Spread the gospel and move on instead of criticizing everyone who can't move on to what God is doing. Who cares if you like his preaching. This is not about YOU or the people who so called built the comfortable man made church. God will always have the last word. Be careful
What is wrong with wanting more black people at your church? Sunday church in America is one of the most segregated places in our country. Why would they not want to build bridges and bring people of all ethnicities together for worship as it is a much closer representation of what heaven will be like? And you completely took the comment about “torching…..etc” out of the context of what he was saying. He is acknowledging and being transparent that he has sinful thoughts and he knows that is not what Jesus desires of him and he explained that. I have never seen you speak before but you seem like you don’t understand the gospel of Jesus Christ and can’t recognize Biblical Christianity when you see it. The capital “C” Church is made up of sinful, fallen, imperfect, and messed up people like me and you and I believe to the depths of my soul that MBC is trying to (under a microscope), advance the Gospel of Jesus in the best way they know how. Meanwhile, in the background, are a whole host of armchair quarterbacks that sit in judgement attacking their every move with very little understanding of scripture. And to the person who asked about what was woke about this video…good question, I was wondering the same thing. I am not sure what is wrong with desiring to do better as a person or as a church. These are people that spend a TON of time reading and wrestling with scripture, praying, inviting the Holy Spirit to help them, preparing Sunday sermons, shepherding congregations, and planning for the future of MBC. Not sure you’ve listened to many David Platt sermons. He is incredibly gifted in teaching and communicating what the Bible says. He stays so far from injecting his own opinion into his messages (fully backing his “opinions” with Bible truths), rarely uses humor to get a cheap laugh, and handles God’s word with a respect rarely seen from the pulpit. Part of me (the sinful part of me) would love to check out more of your videos but it would be such a profound waste of time. Perhaps critique the Joel Osteens out there…..but I’m not sure you’d recognize what is off in his messages anyways…because he speaks some truth but then goes in the ditch, badly.
So I did in fact check out your statement of faith etc and see that you do speak out against the Prosperity Gospel and other false gospels. So that is good. I am curious about what church you do find worthy of being a part of? It does seem you are a Christian Nationalist so that would be problematic in my view. Not Biblical.
@@angelasmith1112 Is that a rhetorical question or are you sincerely asking? Google it. Short answer…..elevating love of country on the same level as love of God and wrongly combining the two. Think Marjorie Taylor Greene or Lauren Boebert. I’m not sure they understand Biblical Christianity. Jesus wasn’t a republican or a democrat. The religious leaders of Jesus’ day thought he was coming to be a political leader to overthrow the Roman Empire. They couldn’t have been more wrong. Jesus rules and reigns over a different kingdom altogether…..I gotta get ready for work😩
@@angelasmith1112 In the context of the USA, a Christian Nationalist is someone who uses the banner (but not the actual tenets) of Christianity as a rallying point for one's own political views, especially those in support of abolishing the US Constitution and establishing a theocracy.
![Francis Chan + David Platt: The Great Imbalance [Missions Conference 2023]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/td6AgS9OdJU/mqdefault.jpg)
Looks like Platt found his version of an ‘African American 7’ 😂
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Ha!!
To be fair, they are replacing the Anglo 2
🤣😂@@andrewcosta2760
Bring back Lon Solomon to MBC
I always wondered what Lon Solomon thought about all this nonsense.
Wish MBC would go back to what it was
If ever the enemy had infiltrated the house of God this is it.
I hope David Platt becomes a missionary to Antartica
Imagine having a pastor that wants to "torch" people based on their race!
He always seems like he is crying. Platts number one priority is his appearance of virtue. This will give him so many virtue points.
The first reason I never liked his preaching let lone that of Francis Chan or Matt Chandler
@@evangelicaldarkweb used to be into them because they were trendy at the corrupt Christian publisher I was at. before I found them woke I was just bored by them. Even if they weren't whiny or woke they would have nothing interesting to say.
@@nathanphillipsgo curious what was the publisher?
Its what woke socialist justice warriors do.
He tries to play on emotions, feelings, and manipulate instead of I don't know preaching from the Bible. That's why there are so many Charismatic almost in tears pastors in this country, simply they are unqualified
The kid is trouble. There's about a dozen years of growing up needing to happen before he's ready to pastor people. It's apparent even in such a short interview reveal. Smelled this before. The young, under-disciplined always want to rule the world because they think they can do it better. And it always ends with another train-wrecked ministry, train-wrecked people, and/or a train- wrecked man.
Young with big ideas to conquer the world of sin ahead and limited real world experience. A curse and blessing
When your focus is being woke you’ll never be woke enough.
SUPER well put!!!😂😂😂🎯💯🎯💯
As if America and the world do not have enough people to share the gospel to, why brings DEI to MBC?
If scripture is to be his foundation then he doesn’t have much to be angry about unless he’s watching cnn.
Why is Platt always on the verge of tears?
Perhaps the better question is how did this style of preaching become popular
@@evangelicaldarkweb Fair.
Even if the content was good it would be unbearable to listen to.
It's to manipulate people and make them feel guilty for not being down with everything he is saying
i've noticed that too. it's quite hilarious and proves God has a sense of humor.
Guilt?
just an FYI, Mike Kelsey offered a non-apology at a different MBC meeting. it was more of a "I'm sorry for the way you heard me" kind of thing. I believe I did see the video here on yt.
Social gospel preachers equals no gospel at all. These people are deceived, they have a form of Godliness but deny the power.
AMEN! Exactly the scripture I have remembered!
"To be honest" means "I'm about to lie to everyone."
I heard Lon Solomon on the radio years before the change in the church. He was a solid Bible teacher. I definitely saw changes when he left the pulpit.
HE SOUNDS LIKE HES WHINING AND CRYING .ITS SO CRINGE AND IT COMES OFF WEIRD AND NOT GENUINE....
This is a PR move.
Every elder is to be a pastor or shepherd. Eldership parity would have prevented the Platt disaster.
How many people are members at MBC now, and how are the attendance rates???
Jon Harris recently said they are down by more than half since David Platt took over
Knew him in Alabama. My wife spotted his egocentric flaws immediately. Total fraud and sham artist. His schtick is up.
I remember seeing mike kelsey there in person back in 2015 or so. he looked super young and wearing pants too tight and i had an off feeling. unbelievable that he's now the head pastor of this mega church. unbelievable. smh. Back then, it was the original, founding pastor, Lon Solomon.
I went to MBC from 2001 - 2008. Sad to see what has happened.
Ah... Affirmative Action...
That guy is not in position to be a pastor:
According to the Bible, a pastor must have the following qualifications:
Be blameless
Be in good standing in their marriage and immediate family
Be patient, hospitable, and apt to teach
Be MATURE and called in their life and in their faith
Be able to preach
Have some form of formal theology study
Be respectable, hospitable, able to teach, not a bully but gentle, not quarrelsome
Have a good reputation among outsiders
Be a person of integrity and worthy of the respect of those both inside and outside the church
If your mentality can be taken by the wiles of this world, and wanting to torch a group of people based on their race then you are not qualified to be a pastor. Plain and simple!
Absolutely right and it is a sin for David Platt to be promoting this man! Everybody knows it's racially motivated
For the record: Kelsey DID apologize for the fact that his WORDS were "hurtful" to some--fortunately, only to white people. However, as any Christian should know, repentance is a change of more than just your words.
My uncle used to attend MBC back when he lived in Alrington, but definitely is not happy with the way crybaby Dave took it.
I don’t know a lot about Platt but when a man is plowing through scandal and pitches the change as a positive, talking about his excitement and “opportunities”, it comes off as insincere. Sounds corporate and scripted. And my intent with the comment isn’t to pile on the man needlessly, but only that it serves as a warning to others of us in ministry… we should speak straightly, naturally and manly.
This video was produced at a time when David Platt had been diagnosed with cancer. He died October 16, 2024.
WHAT?¿????
Fun fact: The "star of David" is has nothing to do with King David... This ✡️ is the Babylonian star of Rempham, a Babylonian deity
That's a future video of mine
At least he put his money where his mouth is, or maybe he is setting up the black guy to take the fall. 🤣😂
Seems like the comment was taken a little bit out of context. she did ask him how he had been dealing with that. I don't like any of this woke mess, but just looking at this clip, it seems he just responded to a question.
Big middle finger to MBC from Platt and the Elders.
This guy was talking, but he said nothing.
Dude you are taking the man comment out of context be careful how you talk about God’s people….let us pray for MBC
David Platt is more woke than him. Kellsey’s comments weren’t so bad. I’ve heard worse.
Snakes.
Kelsey has been there since Solomon. He led their Frontline ministry under Lon with tremendous fruit. It's not like they hired a guy outside MBC. He was within. And he was one of Lon's guys.
So all those who miss Lon, well....
A lot of this controversy are people who are afraid to open their Bible or afraid to read Jesus's words. It's not wokeness you're afraid of. You're just uncomfortable.
These comments are sad. First of all he has not step down. He is still a lead pastor. It’s a dual pastor model. God help y’all bring unity instead of division.
What does woke mean? You use that term many times in this video but after watching it Im not sure I have a good understanding of what you mean by it.
It's 2023. If you don't know, it's your fault.
@@evangelicaldarkweb Thank you, I am aware of the year. My point is that word means many different things to many different people, I was wondering if you could define what it means to you because I could not discern what it was from this video.
@@Bluelizard0 Sorry if the following is obvious. (I'm partly writing it to practise summarising wokeness for myself.) The word "woke" is a dialect form of "awakened", specifically awakened to the (alleged) plight of black people, women, and LGBTQI++ people suffering racism, mysogyny, and "transphobia" everywhere, all their lives, at the hands of straight white men. People of any colour or sex can be "awakened" to this omnipresent oppression by having the theory pounded into them incessantly, mostly at school, until one day they give up their skepticism and disbelief and say, "Yes, I see it too now! I see white men oppressing everyone else literally everywhere, in the most innocent-seeming remark. The most helpful, respectful gesture or comment is always really filled with contempt for nonwhite people. I can detect it now just as my teachers and pastors have been telling me for years. I'm awake to it like them."
Neo-Marxism
Wow You are confused.. Wow
They were in Montgomery County Mclean together, not surprising.
It’s so difficult watching this guy preach. So obviously phony and cringy. 😖
Do you realize that lieing is sin? Ohhhhh Myyyyyyy he did not step down... Wow
He stepped down as lead pastor and installed a woke pastor. Where is the lie?
@@evangelicaldarkweb Totally wrong. I have attended that church for decades. Maybe you ought to go visit the church. David Platt still preaches almost every Sunday, and he is still lead pastor on the official church board. The one pastor of a church is an antiquated anti-scriptural way of running a church God is bringing down all of those churches who are manmade. The Lon Solomon church is ending that was built upon a man. Wake up instead of polluting half-truths and lies. God will hold you accountable.. Spread the gospel and move on instead of criticizing everyone who can't move on to what God is doing. Who cares if you like his preaching. This is not about YOU or the people who so called built the comfortable man made church. God will always have the last word. Be careful
What is wrong with wanting more black people at your church? Sunday church in America is one of the most segregated places in our country. Why would they not want to build bridges and bring people of all ethnicities together for worship as it is a much closer representation of what heaven will be like? And you completely took the comment about “torching…..etc” out of the context of what he was saying. He is acknowledging and being transparent that he has sinful thoughts and he knows that is not what Jesus desires of him and he explained that. I have never seen you speak before but you seem like you don’t understand the gospel of Jesus Christ and can’t recognize Biblical Christianity when you see it. The capital “C” Church is made up of sinful, fallen, imperfect, and messed up people like me and you and I believe to the depths of my soul that MBC is trying to (under a microscope), advance the Gospel of Jesus in the best way they know how. Meanwhile, in the background, are a whole host of armchair quarterbacks that sit in judgement attacking their every move with very little understanding of scripture. And to the person who asked about what was woke about this video…good question, I was wondering the same thing. I am not sure what is wrong with desiring to do better as a person or as a church. These are people that spend a TON of time reading and wrestling with scripture, praying, inviting the Holy Spirit to help them, preparing Sunday sermons, shepherding congregations, and planning for the future of MBC. Not sure you’ve listened to many David Platt sermons. He is incredibly gifted in teaching and communicating what the Bible says. He stays so far from injecting his own opinion into his messages (fully backing his “opinions” with Bible truths), rarely uses humor to get a cheap laugh, and handles God’s word with a respect rarely seen from the pulpit. Part of me (the sinful part of me) would love to check out more of your videos but it would be such a profound waste of time. Perhaps critique the Joel Osteens out there…..but I’m not sure you’d recognize what is off in his messages anyways…because he speaks some truth but then goes in the ditch, badly.
Platt is a wolf. Why waste time on the low hanging fruit of Joel Osteen
So I did in fact check out your statement of faith etc and see that you do speak out against the Prosperity Gospel and other false gospels. So that is good. I am curious about what church you do find worthy of being a part of? It does seem you are a Christian Nationalist so that would be problematic in my view. Not Biblical.
@@KellyElizabeth1What is a Christian Nationalist?
@@angelasmith1112 Is that a rhetorical question or are you sincerely asking? Google it. Short answer…..elevating love of country on the same level as love of God and wrongly combining the two. Think Marjorie Taylor Greene or Lauren Boebert. I’m not sure they understand Biblical Christianity. Jesus wasn’t a republican or a democrat. The religious leaders of Jesus’ day thought he was coming to be a political leader to overthrow the Roman Empire. They couldn’t have been more wrong. Jesus rules and reigns over a different kingdom altogether…..I gotta get ready for work😩
@@angelasmith1112 In the context of the USA, a Christian Nationalist is someone who uses the banner (but not the actual tenets) of Christianity as a rallying point for one's own political views, especially those in support of abolishing the US Constitution and establishing a theocracy.