Thanks for posting. I saw the documentary last night. As a former member of MBC its sad what happened but hope this will be a warning for other churches about the teaching of social justice.
Just saw yesterday, but as a black man, people like him make my blood boil. My right minded brothers at MBC were right to contact the elders and tell them not to divide the people over this nonsensical "doctrine." I am black, not weak, I am black, not a victim, and most importantly, I am victorious due to christ, not by the promise of reparations. 40 acres and a mule would never save a man. Period.
Yes brother. Clear as a bell. Though not a member from near or far, as a black man I feel a responsibility to denounce the behavior exhibited by Platt at MBC. Can't wait to view part 2 in hopes of learning that the elders righted the ship.
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A number of pastors with TGC affiliation have endorsed candidates that support the cessation of a unborn child, CRT, and affirmation of the LGBTQ... lifestyle.
Wow. I hadn’t been following this story much, but I knew about the SBC’s resolution and that Platt was teaching critical theory. The depth of deception in this whole thing just breaks my heart. HOWEVER, I am so impressed in Christ with our brothers and sisters who pushed back and stood up to Platt face to face. You are an amazing example to all of us of what good church leadership and government truly is. I’m so thankful the Body of Christ is working in such difficult times!! ❤🥹
Watched it last night. Serves as a good warning for all Christians to not be suspicious, but rather diligent and discerning. Wokeness destroys everything in its path. And corruption and underhandedness are an abomination in the church also.
David Platt, a modern day pharisee. The fact he had the former pastors memory scrubbed from memory, removing all his sermons from their church website, that is absolutely shameful.
I am so glad to hear a pastor say that. Twice I have been in a church where a new pastor came and endeavored to wipe out all connections with the church's past, even doing petty things like removing plaques from the walls in order to accomplish that. I find it very disturbing and offensive. In one of those cases, when the pastor dropped dead at the age of 53, it was written in his obituary that he was the founder of the church when in fact it had been founded 50 years previously with a different name. I marvelled that he had so brainwashed the leaders of the church that they would put a lie like that in the newspaper. Only Jesus is the owner of the local church. A pastor is a steward not the owner.
The hiring of Platt and the destruction of MBC seem to be the same as what happened to FBC Naples Florida. Pushing out of a beloved pastor , introducing crt into the curriculum, kicking out of faithful members who don’t agree with the agenda, and misappropriating church funds. Praying for the body of Christ and the faithful pastors who reject this nonsense. Maranatha
Agree completely. I was a member of FBC Naples when this happened and it was a disgrace. We did the David Platt “Radical” study in our small group. I wonder what kind of behind the scenes salesmanship was going on to get that booked placed in the rotation.
@@mattmcgriff5952 I saw the story and it made my heart heavy for you and your fellow members. I prayed for y’all and will continue to do so. God bless and keep you.
The story of our age: faithful men build an institution, which nurtures and protects thousands of people, and opportunists who have the vicious ability to scavenge get in and turn the institution to their own benefit. Christians need to become warriors who fight mercilessly with their enemies to prevent this type of thing.
I was a seminary student at NOBTS in 2008. I went to the seminary’s extension at Church of Brook Hills where David was the pastor. I am not shocked by this at all.
@@tanks1945 I am not saying that what David was doing then was questionable. He was on the rise at that time. He was hardly ever at the church. It is hard to “pastor” a church when you are “in demand” every where else.
I got there just after he left for IMB. He came back for the funeral of one of the pastors. It was the first time that I had ever heard of him or listened to him speak. I wasn't impressed. Next time I saw him was at a G3 Conference. Was less impressed than the 1st time.
Jon, thanks for your efforts here! Charlatans need to be exposed by name. So thnaks for your courage. I know there are others doing this good work, but you are definitely on the forefront. Thank you again!
Wow just wow. I had been following this awhile ago but didn't know what came of all of it. The level of deception and disregard for the members of MBC is so disheartening
I used to visit McLean Bible Church with my friend who was a member and from another culture. She loved McLean and her kids too. She left after Platt changed it. I was there the Sunday after he prayed for Trump it was a very uncomfortable and told congregation not to speak. He definitely had an agenda. In one sermon he said asking Jesus in your heart was easy believing. As a child I asked Jesus into my heart and have grown in my faith. Thank you for exposing David Platt.
Saw it last night. I hope and pray solid new elders can fix this mess. It also highlights the fact that a voting congregation can often be clueless imo.
I came away from it with a "feeling" like I should be getting something out of it but I didn't get anything out of it, I can't even remember a single thing that impacted me, other than a vague impression that "I should have radical faith".
how would you define the plea from God for His people to advocate for the widows, orphans, those who cannot advocate for themselves? that could be defined as social justice and is throughout scripture, old and new. though I will add that NT scripture advises people to not be hung up on their tribal identity and genealogies.
I look forward to watching and learning. Knowing this was forthcoming I have some questions… It’s my understanding that Lon Solomon signed a non disclosure agreement (‘NDA’) when he left MBC. I’m curious what was confidential/sensative in a normal pastoral transition that needed an NDA? I am assuming Lon approved of the transition to David, which stands in opposition to what I had thought which is…Lon (and I could be wrong and folks have a right to change their mind) repeatedly and publicly stated he was staying in the McLean Bible pulpit til the Lord called him home? Do folks that put this video together think Lon and the all male elder board were “hoodwinked/purchased a lemon?” Also, why didn't Lon stay the lead pastor at MBC? Did the elders ask Lon to move on or was it Lon’s decision? Has the NDA expired? If so, has Lon and the elders at the time (except for Craig Proulx) publically addressed the questions we all have?
I can relate to so much of this. They will never know what their actions and lies cost us. I am glad you shared this. Red flag is When the leaders walk out when questioned. When they pick and choose their inner circle💔💔
This is shocking, disturbing to say the least! Thank you for sharing this Jon, it’s heartbreaking to hear how the good work that was established over 30 years of faithful shepherding was destroyed so quickly. May the Lord use this documentary to warn others, and may God’s will be done to continue to expose the SBC leaders who have participated in this wickedness. They need to repent, because one day we will all stand before God and be judged.
It is by no coincidence that the same top SBC player backing Platt during the takeover of and turmoil at McClain Bible Church with Platt was also central to the turmoil and subsequent SBC takeover at First Baptist Church of Naples Florida. Who was the man who participated in promotional videos before both congregations to introduce them to their new SBC man? In each case local ministries were being sacrificed. And for what? So resources could get redirected and funneled to the SBC? Sadly David Platt is beholden to the same man. It’s all about power and how to redirect funds into the hands of the SBC elites. In my estimation they don’t even have any real philosophical loyalty to CRT, rather CRT is just a convenient and unscrupulous means by which to divide and conquer these churches, get access to their funds and silence their own critics. Then once you see the nature of the abuses against Pastor William McRaney by the same man, things really start to come into focus. Are we allowed to notice any common denominators and patterns of behavior?
This is heartbreaking. I was a graduate student in Washington DC from 2002 - 2005 and attended MBC. I was a member of the ASL interpreting team and grew so much through the teaching of Lon Solomon and still listen to him online. I also attended the Deaf Church at Brookhills 2006-2008, a ministry of the Church at Brookhills when David firdt became pastor there. He is an impressive orator and speaker. It's just awful what he's done and the false, oppressive teaching he's spreading.
How is it possible that the elders didn't know that this "not an SBC church" was funneling so much money to SBC entities? Looks like there was significant overlap between the time Pastor Platt was in charge of IMB and also pastoring MBC which makes that funneling look like a major conflict of interest. Paul Maxwell (come back Paul!) wrote/said something a long time ago that has stuck with me. Something like, "Things like this don't happen unless the *other* men at the church let it happen."
I genuinely don’t get the hate for David. Yes, I’m biased towards him - he has earned that respect. He answered the “affiliated with the SBC” question quite honestly, it’s not a simple yes or no the way it was worded. She didn’t ask if MBC was a member of the SBC. I didn’t see anything that wild here, especially if you drown out the opinionated commentary. The most controversial thing was what Pastor Kelsey said about torching white people. That was alarming, but it looks like he publicly addressed it. David’s books fund Radical. I expected to see proof of financial personal gain, but only heard complaints that David directed funds to the SBC. Wow, who would have thought the head of the IMB would seek to continue support that organization in his new role… He’s probably given more to missions through the funds from his writings than I’ll give my whole life. I get it. The church changed a lot. Some changes were probably regrettable. MBC Isn’t the only church struggling with change. A small observation of what programs Brook Hills did and didn’t have would have clued MBC in on what to expect about spending on programs. I also didn’t see any proof of David supporting CRT in this video, maybe I missed it. I’m not saying that I agree with him here. He wouldn’t directly denounce CRT in the one clip, but he said it was a much larger conversation. I’d be surprised if he supports CRT in full, but we are naive to think there aren’t merits to some racial concerns. Racism exists in pretty much every culture around the world. I vote extremely conservative, so don’t assume I support anything that singles out a race. His participation in the march in 2020 was concerning. But that doesn’t explain the comments calling David demonic or evil. I don’t agree with people who want to vote for Kamala, but there are plenty of them in the church. I would bet a lot of money that David isn’t one of them. Maybe Part 2 will have more depth to it. Maybe I missed something here.
Watch it again, he uses the same textbook phrases CRT people to do shame whites, only he Christianizes it. I would know, I went 3 years to a "Christian" college that tried to push a "Christian-palatable" version of CRT. Platt talks the same way my evil professors/staff did at my woke college. If you watch the video again and still can't see it then I don't know what to tell you, maybe you are compartmentalizing.
This is very concerning and deserves a thorough response. We should be careful to come to swift judgments but also seek the truth for the glory of God and the good of His people. Today I will pray that Platt and others will humble himself to this accusations. There are far more than the necessary witnesses to bring a charge against him.
@Jon Have you tried contacting Sal Cordova? He has a small youtube channel called "Evidence and Reasons" and is one of the members of MCB that sued for financial records; he would be interesting to talk to. Also he has an interesting science back ground and I stumbled upon him and his channel after watching a debate where he was defending creationism, he's also a nice fellow.
@rey1454 thanks for the promo. I was intereviewed for 2 shows on Denver KLTT radio this morning. They'll be released over the next couple of weeks. I mentioned the stuff going on at MBC in one of the shows that will be aired as it relates to that little blurb where I said in the documentary that Lon Solomon's study of Enzymes led in part to his conversion to Christianity.
This is beyond heartbreaking 💔. But Lon Solomon signed a non disclosure agreement? Since when are men beholden to man? No man should AGREE to be bound by such chains. This is the body of Christ, for whom He died. It has been Satan’s plan from the very beginning. He despises the chosen, and will do whatever it takes to ruin them. And, how-ever he can be the most stealthiest that he can be, he will tear them apart. 1 Peter 5:8 (NASB95) Be of sober spirit, be on the alert. Your adversary, the devil, prowls around like a roaring lion, seeking someone to devour. May the body of Christ be strengthened by this most devastating news. And may Lon Solomon break the chains from his bondage. I’m waiting patiently(?) for part 2.
I’m a member of a humble church in Pittsburgh. I am aware of David Platt. Never read any of his books or watched any of his sermons. I have never heard of McLean Bible Church until watching this documentary. If this is all true, this is just plain evil. The deceit, the lying, the divisiveness, and the preaching of a social gospel instead of the Gospel of Jesus Christ, it is all quite appalling. It harkens to 2 Peter 2:1-2. This smacks of greed and corporatocracy and I hope that the perpetrators are held accountable. Also these actions should bring great shame to the SBC. You don’t treat fellow believers this way!
@@lanetteehresman9842 That would still be suspect right? Just thinking… Either way this entire thing is heartbreaking and evil. The gospel was literally highjacked from this church.
A common story with SBC churches across the nation. Leadership does not vet new pastors at all. They give into the pressure. They have zero discernment.
All of this is a perfect test case for why you should be happy in a nice small, independent, and well-governed church. If the elders cannot govern, then something is very wrong. What a horribly sad and ugly look for all involved.
I went to MBC in the 90s when I was a young adult living in Northern VA. Lon Solomon had a huge impact on my walk with Christ in those years. I remember being astonished to hear that Platt was "chosen" to lead MBC. It just didn't seem like a good fit. Two very different pastors.
It sounds like y'alls faith was in the GUY and not GOD. How did this guy take away ur ability to work and minister to others when the SCRIPTURES say that's a GIFT from the HOLY SPIRIT? It really sounds like your laying the ground work for a LAW SUIT. I mean if my pastor starts preaching and teaching things that ARE NOT IN SCRIPTURE I would just walk out and find a good scripture teaching church, because Jesus and not my pastor died FOR ME. How can you be abused spiritual? Be like the Bereans and "search the Scriptures daily to find out if these things are so". The word of God MUST BE OUR ONLY VOICE OF AUTHORITY .
This was so hard to watch. How much of a comatose sleep are you having to go 7 years under such an ungodly man implanted in your church, without moving a muscle? I am beyond baffled.
Regarding the destructiveness of legalism and authoritarian pastors, I highly recommend the novel Wisdom Hunter by Randall Arthur. It seems to be the premiere novel illustrating the dangers of authoritarians. It's an international bestseller. Many call it a “classic.” I understand that the author was even fired from his mission agency because of the novel. I think he was even a TTU graduate.
The description of events appears to be describing the steps one would take to launder and/or embezzle money thru a ministry. I wonder if they every got a full accounting/audit of the cash flows.
When i attended MBC in the early 2000s, the special needs ministry was one of the only ministires like it in the country and served families and people with disabilities incredibly well. MBC even hosted conferences where other churches came to learn and study how to do ministry to people and families with disabilities with the respect and love and thorough care. The fact that David Platt came in and dismantled so many ministries is deplorable. I attended the Church at Brook Hills when he first came to that church and he was a polished orator and did seem to do good by transitioning that church to an elder-led church, but it seems he's always been a polished speaker with an unbiblical agenda. It's hearbreaking to see how he destroyed much of MBC...using its size and success for his own gain and goals and not for the glory of God.
I heard Lon Solomon probably 10 years ago on the radio. I listened and watched from Texas. I admired him and learned . When David would fill in, it felt "creepy". I did not like his sermons. When he took over , I stopped watching. I saw he and another pastor (Mike ?) went really woke. Was saddened that the church really went south what Lon had faithfully shepherded.
While the concerns about finances, CRT (Critical Race Theory), and DEI (Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion) are serious and worth examining, much of the criticism in the video seems rooted in personal preferences rather than biblical principles. The individuals in the video do not realize that the true issue lies in following the megachurch model, which is not a biblical approach to church structure. In essence, while they express dissatisfaction with the current approach to megachurch management, there is no substantial difference between the structure before and after Platt's leadership.
Just about everything spoken of here about the whole affair stems from an unbiblical view of the church and church officers. But this is all too common place in my 40 years of experience as a Christian. In fact, it is worse today than the early 80s. True Overseer Shepherds are not made in seminaries, but those living among the people of God who can vouchsafe their character gifts and calling. When the pastors are hires rather than men whose gifts and calling are as a result of being under a sound biblically based church, this type of evil is bound to happen. Seminaries are not churches and are not authorized by the word of God for ministerial nurturing and preparation. Academics, maybe but not Shepherds in the church of God. Never let your elders select an office bearer who has not been thoroughly approved personally by the people of God to verify one's calling. Potential pastors ought to be discovered and raised up in a church without the need or reliance on a para church organization like a seminary. The church is alone the central institution for the business of heaven on earth.
I don't fully agree. Seminaries aren't a bad idea. However I fully agree that you should personally know your pastor, and not hire an outsider that no one in the church knows. We really need both top pastoral training (seminaries, mentorships, etc) and personal character knowledge before the congregation.
@michaellautermilch9185 Fair enough. But think about this. If the pastor(s) are seminary graduates, then they ought to be able to teach to others all that they learned in Seminary. If that is true, then what need is there for a seminary? Seminaries are not a bad idea, and certainly God has used this mode and form of useful training, but why be bound to what is not officially ordained in scripture? A church does not necessarily have to abandon seminary or academic training, but why not begin a ministerial institution right within the church? I experienced this as a church I was part of in NJ. It was a ministerial academy taught and managed by the pastors of our church and anyone who wanted to attend and who believed that God was calling them to that office could become members of the church which was a Baptist church and attend the academy which was free of charge. Once they graduated after 4 years and their character was properly evaluated not only by the Pastors but the whole church who knew what manner of faith and life they exhibited could bear witness to their character and calling and recommend each to be considered for the office of pastor in other churches who were familiar with our faith and practice. Most of these men went on to serve the Lord and his people well. That is a perspective, I think.too many churches fail to see and pursue such an idea. Particularly if a church has the means to do so.
Just so you know family, i've lived and served in the ministry for 30 years 20 of each was in white evangelical churches. My close friends, my entire network was white evangelicals. i took a major hit in my entire world when 16 year old and unarmed Trayvon Martin was killed by Zimmerman. I was under the assumption we would all hurt the same that a 16 old kids with skittles and ice tea going home ends up with a bullet to the chest from a man who basically stalked him and confronted him. I had a baby brother the same age so i thought we were all on the same side. Then my world was rocked base over apex. Everyone of my white friends seemed eager to offer every other reason why the killing was justified. From saying its just the media, to saying the kid looked one way or the other. To say i was bewildered is to understate the facts. It was the first day my eyes open to what was going to unfold...for the next few years.
12:18 David Platt, apart from the big cities, the Southeast, and the Indian reservations, the country is still pretty hugely white. But there is something rather well-known called the black church. Perhaps you are aware that many of the church-going black people prefer to go to churches in this category. It is therefore as a result logically impossible for black people to be proportionally represented in other churches.
I've been part of the same sort of a similar story where a thriving church had a pastor leave and the new pastor came in with a fire to draw people toward discipleship and true biblical living. The new pastor was run off by the charter members who just wanted things to stay the way they were. The people in this "mockumentary" are looking for reasons to be upset. I am fully aware of what has happened at MBC and you can see the character of people based on the clips shown. Love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, gentleness, faithfulness, and self-control are not among the attributes you see from this mob.
You watched a different documentary. The former members of MBC clearly care about their church and were completely gaslit by the new leadership at that church. I found that out long before these documentaries came out.
One thing I didn't understand was who Dale Sutherland was. Was he an elder? Why did he suddenly seem to become a leading figure in getting the church to call David Platt as their new pastor? What was Dale Sutherland's past?
This makes me so angry to see such wickedness penetrate Christ's Church which grew up through a faithful Pastor and congregation. Only to be infiltrated. Reminds of a verse from this mornings bible study "But false prophets also arose among the people, just as there will also be false teachers among you, who will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the Master who bought them, bringing swift destruction upon themselves. " (2 Peter 2:1, NASB)
The new leadership violated their own church's constitution and by-laws, misled and lied to their congregants, and then disfellowshipped them, lied about it, and gaslit them.
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Thanks for posting. I saw the documentary last night. As a former member of MBC its sad what happened but hope this will be a warning for other churches about the teaching of social justice.
Thank you. I see this stuff creeping in evangelical churches in Canada as well.
I’m sorry for the pain you must have gone through. I think this will help shed light for others!
@@newtonbrook What are your thoughts on TGC Canada? My reformed Church is partnered with them.
That is just the tip of the iceberg, It is way more than the teaching of CRT. David Platt is a crook.
Its more than just about the teaching of social justice. David is a crook.
Just saw yesterday, but as a black man, people like him make my blood boil. My right minded brothers at MBC were right to contact the elders and tell them not to divide the people over this nonsensical "doctrine."
I am black, not weak, I am black, not a victim, and most importantly, I am victorious due to christ, not by the promise of reparations. 40 acres and a mule would never save a man. Period.
Amen, brother!
Yes brother. Clear as a bell. Though not a member from near or far, as a black man I feel a responsibility to denounce the behavior exhibited by Platt at MBC. Can't wait to view part 2 in hopes of learning that the elders righted the ship.
Your view is appreciated.....
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Thank You for correcting this oversight....It is quite bothersome for some people to see this word, (which surely falls in the category of English "proper words") not to be designated/marked by the first letter capitalized, and thus diminished.
You are right.
Someone gave me video of David. It was unwatchable. It was awkward
It's also worth noting that David Platt was, and is still listed as a Council Member of The Gospel Coalition.
He is a keynote speaker for the 2025 TGC conference.
A MARXIST COALITION!
One more reason why that group should be seen as a part of the problem rather than part of the solution
A number of pastors with TGC affiliation have endorsed candidates that support the cessation of a unborn child, CRT, and affirmation of the LGBTQ... lifestyle.
Like many ministries, TGC has gone woke! I believe this is part of the apostasy predicted for the last days!
This is what "being unburdened by what has been" looks like.
xD
Wow. I hadn’t been following this story much, but I knew about the SBC’s resolution and that Platt was teaching critical theory. The depth of deception in this whole thing just breaks my heart. HOWEVER, I am so impressed in Christ with our brothers and sisters who pushed back and stood up to Platt face to face. You are an amazing example to all of us of what good church leadership and government truly is. I’m so thankful the Body of Christ is working in such difficult times!! ❤🥹
agree! God raised up these people!
Watched it last night. Serves as a good warning for all Christians to not be suspicious, but rather diligent and discerning. Wokeness destroys everything in its path. And corruption and underhandedness are an abomination in the church also.
David Platt, a modern day pharisee. The fact he had the former pastors memory scrubbed from memory, removing all his sermons from their church website, that is absolutely shameful.
Unburdened by what has been.
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I am so glad to hear a pastor say that. Twice I have been in a church where a new pastor came and endeavored to wipe out all connections with the church's past, even doing petty things like removing plaques from the walls in order to accomplish that. I find it very disturbing and offensive. In one of those cases, when the pastor dropped dead at the age of 53, it was written in his obituary that he was the founder of the church when in fact it had been founded 50 years previously with a different name. I marvelled that he had so brainwashed the leaders of the church that they would put a lie like that in the newspaper.
Only Jesus is the owner of the local church. A pastor is a steward not the owner.
Communism! This is communism. They scrub the past.
@@conceptualclarity I wonder why paedo baptists don’t tend to have this issue? This simply sounds like a by-product of weak Baptist ecclesiology.
The hiring of Platt and the destruction of MBC seem to be the same as what happened to FBC Naples Florida. Pushing out of a beloved pastor , introducing crt into the curriculum, kicking out of faithful members who don’t agree with the agenda, and misappropriating church funds. Praying for the body of Christ and the faithful pastors who reject this nonsense. Maranatha
Agree completely. I was a member of FBC Naples when this happened and it was a disgrace. We did the David Platt “Radical” study in our small group. I wonder what kind of behind the scenes salesmanship was going on to get that booked placed in the rotation.
We must be diligent to stay in God's word as we see the havoc and destruction being done in the Church today by an unrelenting enemy!!!
@@mattmcgriff5952 I saw the story and it made my heart heavy for you and your fellow members. I prayed for y’all and will continue to do so. God bless and keep you.
@@maryellis3286 Amen and Amen
The story of our age: faithful men build an institution, which nurtures and protects thousands of people, and opportunists who have the vicious ability to scavenge get in and turn the institution to their own benefit. Christians need to become warriors who fight mercilessly with their enemies to prevent this type of thing.
Jude 1:3
Thanks for posting. Sad what Platt has done to this once great church.
Tragic.
I was a seminary student at NOBTS in 2008. I went to the seminary’s extension at Church of Brook Hills where David was the pastor. I am not shocked by this at all.
@@drjeremywilliams I've heard Platt has a questionable past with ministries he's headed.
@@tanks1945 I am not saying that what David was doing then was questionable. He was on the rise at that time. He was hardly ever at the church. It is hard to “pastor” a church when you are “in demand” every where else.
I got there just after he left for IMB. He came back for the funeral of one of the pastors. It was the first time that I had ever heard of him or listened to him speak. I wasn't impressed.
Next time I saw him was at a G3 Conference. Was less impressed than the 1st time.
@@drjeremywilliams when he was at the church was he preaching this blatantly Left Evangelical message that he preached at MBC?
@@conceptualclarity He wasn't preaching this at Brook hills.
Watched this yesterday. Amazing. Need part 2. Awesome that they are allowing others to copy and distribute it.
Yes, I was looking for part 2.
He's posted it, if you haven't seen it yet.
@@SusieQ3 thank you 😊
Watched it last night too. Grave reminder of one of the many sicknesses that plague the church today.
Thanks for sharing. Hope people are spared from David Platt.
Jon, thanks for your efforts here! Charlatans need to be exposed by name. So thnaks for your courage. I know there are others doing this good work, but you are definitely on the forefront.
Thank you again!
Wow just wow. I had been following this awhile ago but didn't know what came of all of it. The level of deception and disregard for the members of MBC is so disheartening
"We have a chance to get a celebrity pastor in here" a CULT of personality very disturbing
I used to visit McLean Bible Church with my friend who was a member and from another culture. She loved McLean and her kids too. She left after Platt changed it. I was there the Sunday after he prayed for Trump it was a very uncomfortable and told congregation not to speak. He definitely had an agenda. In one sermon he said asking Jesus in your heart was easy believing. As a child I asked Jesus into my heart and have grown in my faith. Thank you for exposing David Platt.
know that Platt is one of those identified in “Shepherds for Sale” by Megan Basham
actually, he is not mentioned in her book, which was stunning.
Saw it last night. I hope and pray solid new elders can fix this mess. It also highlights the fact that a voting congregation can often be clueless imo.
The new elders were put in place by the Platt/CRT crowd.
Democracy takin’ another hit.
Yep, democracy isn't Biblical, elders are Biblical.
Oh my, is all I can say! Wolves in sheep’s clothing. The dishonesty and deceit is so disturbing.
"Give me your documentation and we will take it under advisement ". That should have been grounds for immediate removal!
I remember when his book "Radical" came out and everyone was beside themselves about it. I thought it was very burdensome and "works based".
I remember my church was all into that. I didn’t like it and thought there was something up with him.
@@sird2333 I was also told that I was being too critical of him lol. Time has proven that we were discerning that something was wrong
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I came away from it with a "feeling" like I should be getting something out of it but I didn't get anything out of it, I can't even remember a single thing that impacted me, other than a vague impression that "I should have radical faith".
I’d been wanting to see this! Thank you!
Thank you for sharing this as I was hoping to be able to see it.
This makes my blood boil. Thank you for sharing this.
I to do not understand churches teaching social justice. The scriptures DO NOT SAY that will save mankind.
how would you define the plea from God for His people to advocate for the widows, orphans, those who cannot advocate for themselves? that could be defined as social justice and is throughout scripture, old and new. though I will add that NT scripture advises people to not be hung up on their tribal identity and genealogies.
I look forward to watching and learning. Knowing this was forthcoming I have some questions…
It’s my understanding that Lon Solomon signed a non disclosure agreement (‘NDA’) when he left MBC. I’m curious what was confidential/sensative in a normal pastoral transition that needed an NDA? I am assuming Lon approved of the transition to David, which stands in opposition to what I had thought which is…Lon (and I could be wrong and folks have a right to change their mind) repeatedly and publicly stated he was staying in the McLean Bible pulpit til the Lord called him home? Do folks that put this video together think Lon and the all male elder board were “hoodwinked/purchased a lemon?” Also, why didn't Lon stay the lead pastor at MBC? Did the elders ask Lon to move on or was it Lon’s decision? Has the NDA expired? If so, has Lon and the elders at the time (except for Craig Proulx) publically addressed the questions we all have?
I disliked and distrusted him within moments of the first time I heard him preach. He sounded fake and manipulative.
I can relate to so much of this. They will never know what their actions and lies cost us.
I am glad you shared this. Red flag is When the leaders walk out when questioned. When they pick and choose their inner circle💔💔
Why does he sound like he's crying all the time!?! Sus!
Yes. One of the things that annoys me about him.
Because he is an effeminate low T beta male with no one to confront him
There was also at least one point that sounded as if he were drunk. I'm not saying he was, but it sure sounded like it.
The modern churches have marginalized real Christian men; which is how we end up with the David Frenchs and David Platts.
@@jeffmarkus "real" should be large air quotes... Don't want to lump them up with guys actually trying to hit the mark.
Way to Go Jon! Thanks for posting, and blessings to Danielle and your little one. :D
This is shocking, disturbing to say the least!
Thank you for sharing this Jon, it’s heartbreaking to hear how the good work that was established over 30 years of faithful shepherding was destroyed so quickly. May the Lord use this documentary to warn others, and may God’s will be done to continue to expose the SBC leaders who have participated in this wickedness. They need to repent, because one day we will all stand before God and be judged.
It is by no coincidence that the same top SBC player backing Platt during the takeover of and turmoil at McClain Bible Church with Platt was also central to the turmoil and subsequent SBC takeover at First Baptist Church of Naples Florida. Who was the man who participated in promotional videos before both congregations to introduce them to their new SBC man? In each case local ministries were being sacrificed. And for what? So resources could get redirected and funneled to the SBC?
Sadly David Platt is beholden to the same man. It’s all about power and how to redirect funds into the hands of the SBC elites. In my estimation they don’t even have any real philosophical loyalty to CRT, rather CRT is just a convenient and unscrupulous means by which to divide and conquer these churches, get access to their funds and silence their own critics.
Then once you see the nature of the abuses against Pastor William McRaney by the same man, things really start to come into focus. Are we allowed to notice any common denominators and patterns of behavior?
Once i saw platt on the famous t4g conference where he blabbered on about racism i marked him as a liberal and someone to avoid
This is heartbreaking. I was a graduate student in Washington DC from 2002 - 2005 and attended MBC. I was a member of the ASL interpreting team and grew so much through the teaching of Lon Solomon and still listen to him online. I also attended the Deaf Church at Brookhills 2006-2008, a ministry of the Church at Brookhills when David firdt became pastor there. He is an impressive orator and speaker. It's just awful what he's done and the false, oppressive teaching he's spreading.
So much suffering- so much hardship for such a beautiful congregation. My heart is broken- Thank you for this Part 1. When will part 2 be released?
So sad how one man can destroy a solid church living out the great commission 😔
Not one man. One man is useless without spineless people going along with him.
How is it possible that the elders didn't know that this "not an SBC church" was funneling so much money to SBC entities?
Looks like there was significant overlap between the time Pastor Platt was in charge of IMB and also pastoring MBC which makes that funneling look like a major conflict of interest.
Paul Maxwell (come back Paul!) wrote/said something a long time ago that has stuck with me. Something like, "Things like this don't happen unless the *other* men at the church let it happen."
had firsthand experience with this hireling while at Brook Hills in Birmingham, AL 2008-2010 during his Radical and Secret Church garbage
I got there just after he left.
Wow. Dynamite. Thankyou to the people that had the courage to stand up and expose this .
I need part 2 ASAP
Expose jd greer
Yes, he was just talking about his good friend David Platt in recent sermon
Megan Basham did a good job of that in her recent book, Shepherds for Sale.
This needs to get out to more people.
it is being shared!
I genuinely don’t get the hate for David. Yes, I’m biased towards him - he has earned that respect.
He answered the “affiliated with the SBC” question quite honestly, it’s not a simple yes or no the way it was worded. She didn’t ask if MBC was a member of the SBC.
I didn’t see anything that wild here, especially if you drown out the opinionated commentary. The most controversial thing was what Pastor Kelsey said about torching white people. That was alarming, but it looks like he publicly addressed it. David’s books fund Radical. I expected to see proof of financial personal gain, but only heard complaints that David directed funds to the SBC. Wow, who would have thought the head of the IMB would seek to continue support that organization in his new role… He’s probably given more to missions through the funds from his writings than I’ll give my whole life.
I get it. The church changed a lot. Some changes were probably regrettable. MBC Isn’t the only church struggling with change. A small observation of what programs Brook Hills did and didn’t have would have clued MBC in on what to expect about spending on programs.
I also didn’t see any proof of David supporting CRT in this video, maybe I missed it. I’m not saying that I agree with him here. He wouldn’t directly denounce CRT in the one clip, but he said it was a much larger conversation. I’d be surprised if he supports CRT in full, but we are naive to think there aren’t merits to some racial concerns. Racism exists in pretty much every culture around the world. I vote extremely conservative, so don’t assume I support anything that singles out a race.
His participation in the march in 2020 was concerning. But that doesn’t explain the comments calling David demonic or evil.
I don’t agree with people who want to vote for Kamala, but there are plenty of them in the church. I would bet a lot of money that David isn’t one of them.
Maybe Part 2 will have more depth to it. Maybe I missed something here.
Agreed. Maybe I'm missing something super significant? Change is definitely hard...
Watch it again, he uses the same textbook phrases CRT people to do shame whites, only he Christianizes it. I would know, I went 3 years to a "Christian" college that tried to push a "Christian-palatable" version of CRT. Platt talks the same way my evil professors/staff did at my woke college. If you watch the video again and still can't see it then I don't know what to tell you, maybe you are compartmentalizing.
For those who are surprised by other pew sitters who are clueless even years into this mess, I appreciate your honest opinion.
Need part 2 now Jon.
We need discernment and wisdom to prevent this from happening in other churches. Unbelievable!
47:33 What a LIAR.
This is very concerning and deserves a thorough response. We should be careful to come to swift judgments but also seek the truth for the glory of God and the good of His people. Today I will pray that Platt and others will humble himself to this accusations. There are far more than the necessary witnesses to bring a charge against him.
Thanks to Ray Fava at Evangelical Dark Web for the heads up on this documentary.
@Jon Have you tried contacting Sal Cordova? He has a small youtube channel called "Evidence and Reasons" and is one of the members of MCB that sued for financial records; he would be interesting to talk to. Also he has an interesting science back ground and I stumbled upon him and his channel after watching a debate where he was defending creationism, he's also a nice fellow.
I think Jon has interviewed Sal on this channel before.
Have you even watched the video? 😂
I watched the video once on Sal's channel and 20 mins again on here
@rey1454 thanks for the promo. I was intereviewed for 2 shows on Denver KLTT radio this morning. They'll be released over the next couple of weeks. I mentioned the stuff going on at MBC in one of the shows that will be aired as it relates to that little blurb where I said in the documentary that Lon Solomon's study of Enzymes led in part to his conversion to Christianity.
@@EvidenceandReasonsNo thanks necessary but you're welcome all the same. I'll try and find those interviews.
Apparently the worst false teacher is a woke one.
It varies through history. In our day, yes that's the biggest monster in the room. There are others too, of course.
This is beyond heartbreaking 💔. But Lon Solomon signed a non disclosure agreement? Since when are men beholden to man? No man should AGREE to be bound by such chains. This is the body of Christ, for whom He died.
It has been Satan’s plan from the very beginning. He despises the chosen, and will do whatever it takes to ruin them. And, how-ever he can be the most stealthiest that he can be, he will tear them apart.
1 Peter 5:8 (NASB95)
Be of sober spirit, be on the alert. Your adversary, the devil, prowls around like a roaring lion, seeking someone to devour.
May the body of Christ be strengthened by this most devastating news. And may Lon Solomon break the chains from his bondage.
I’m waiting patiently(?) for part 2.
Thank you for posting. We need more documentaries like this. There are more false pastors in the world.
I’m a member of a humble church in Pittsburgh. I am aware of David Platt. Never read any of his books or watched any of his sermons. I have never heard of McLean Bible Church until watching this documentary. If this is all true, this is just plain evil. The deceit, the lying, the divisiveness, and the preaching of a social gospel instead of the Gospel of Jesus Christ, it is all quite appalling. It harkens to 2 Peter 2:1-2. This smacks of greed and corporatocracy and I hope that the perpetrators are held accountable. Also these actions should bring great shame to the SBC. You don’t treat fellow believers this way!
What I would like to know is what does pastor Lon Solomon say about all of this? Is he silent? If so, his silence is the fishiest part, right?
Do you mean Lon Solomon?
@@Susan-f5u Yes :)
It says he had to sign a non disclosure agreement when he left.
@@lanetteehresman9842 That would still be suspect right? Just thinking… Either way this entire thing is heartbreaking and evil. The gospel was literally highjacked from this church.
David Platt has an estimated net worth of $2.43 Million. So where did all that money come from? Who in D.C. was paying him?
Thanks for posting
A common story with SBC churches across the nation. Leadership does not vet new pastors at all. They give into the pressure. They have zero discernment.
I admire the courage of the congregants to stand up to this narcissist
Its a scary thing to consider the words "you'll have to answer to the Lord."
That guy who spoke up at the meeting at the end - mad respect
If your church has security that escorts members out.......
Only six minutes in, but this church sounds more like a community center than a church, with the way people are describing it. Lots of programs.
Watch the whole thing.
No programs.
Lots of good ministries. Not lots of “programs”. Wonderful history as a Bible believing Bible teaching church. Then it all got wrecked.
All of this is a perfect test case for why you should be happy in a nice small, independent, and well-governed church. If the elders cannot govern, then something is very wrong. What a horribly sad and ugly look for all involved.
I went to MBC in the 90s when I was a young adult living in Northern VA. Lon Solomon had a huge impact on my walk with Christ in those years. I remember being astonished to hear that Platt was "chosen" to lead MBC. It just didn't seem like a good fit. Two very different pastors.
How was he elected?
This is why you don't vote based on popularity, but on biblical principles
I’ve seen this posted on a lot of accounts. Who actually created it?
Platt is as good at not answering direct questions as Kamala Harris
I went to a church that started guilting us over racial issues where NO issues existed. Started just after the George Floyd incident
It sounds like y'alls faith was in the GUY and not GOD. How did this guy take away ur ability to work and minister to others when the SCRIPTURES say that's a GIFT from the HOLY SPIRIT? It really sounds like your laying the ground work for a LAW SUIT. I mean if my pastor starts preaching and teaching things that ARE NOT IN SCRIPTURE I would just walk out and find a good scripture teaching church, because Jesus and not my pastor died FOR ME. How can you be abused spiritual? Be like the Bereans and "search the Scriptures daily to find out if these things are so". The word of God MUST BE OUR ONLY VOICE OF AUTHORITY .
Celebrity pastor! Incredible. Shame
This was so hard to watch. How much of a comatose sleep are you having to go 7 years under such an ungodly man implanted in your church, without moving a muscle? I am beyond baffled.
awesome. i mean, thanks for this
Regarding the destructiveness of legalism and authoritarian pastors, I highly recommend the novel Wisdom Hunter by Randall Arthur. It seems to be the premiere novel illustrating the dangers of authoritarians. It's an international bestseller. Many call it a “classic.” I understand that the author was even fired from his mission agency because of the novel. I think he was even a TTU graduate.
The description of events appears to be describing the steps one would take to launder and/or embezzle money thru a ministry. I wonder if they every got a full accounting/audit of the cash flows.
When i attended MBC in the early 2000s, the special needs ministry was one of the only ministires like it in the country and served families and people with disabilities incredibly well. MBC even hosted conferences where other churches came to learn and study how to do ministry to people and families with disabilities with the respect and love and thorough care. The fact that David Platt came in and dismantled so many ministries is deplorable. I attended the Church at Brook Hills when he first came to that church and he was a polished orator and did seem to do good by transitioning that church to an elder-led church, but it seems he's always been a polished speaker with an unbiblical agenda. It's hearbreaking to see how he destroyed much of MBC...using its size and success for his own gain and goals and not for the glory of God.
"Get woke, go broke" does not just apply to business
I did not like david platt before i like him less now
This church was completely infiltrated and demolished!!! 😮
I heard Lon Solomon probably 10 years ago on the radio. I listened and watched from Texas. I admired him and learned . When David would fill in, it felt "creepy". I did not like his sermons. When he took over , I stopped watching. I saw he and another pastor (Mike ?) went really woke. Was saddened that the church really went south what Lon had faithfully shepherded.
While the concerns about finances, CRT (Critical Race Theory), and DEI (Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion) are serious and worth examining, much of the criticism in the video seems rooted in personal preferences rather than biblical principles. The individuals in the video do not realize that the true issue lies in following the megachurch model, which is not a biblical approach to church structure.
In essence, while they express dissatisfaction with the current approach to megachurch management, there is no substantial difference between the structure before and after Platt's leadership.
Just about everything spoken of here about the whole affair stems from an unbiblical view of the church and church officers. But this is all too common place in my 40 years of experience as a Christian. In fact, it is worse today than the early 80s. True Overseer Shepherds are not made in seminaries, but those living among the people of God who can vouchsafe their character gifts and calling. When the pastors are hires rather than men whose gifts and calling are as a result of being under a sound biblically based church, this type of evil is bound to happen. Seminaries are not churches and are not authorized by the word of God for ministerial nurturing and preparation. Academics, maybe but not Shepherds in the church of God. Never let your elders select an office bearer who has not been thoroughly approved personally by the people of God to verify one's calling. Potential pastors ought to be discovered and raised up in a church without the need or reliance on a para church organization like a seminary. The church is alone the central institution for the business of heaven on earth.
Wow, that never occurred to me. I have some sentiments toward that viewpoint.
I don't fully agree. Seminaries aren't a bad idea. However I fully agree that you should personally know your pastor, and not hire an outsider that no one in the church knows. We really need both top pastoral training (seminaries, mentorships, etc) and personal character knowledge before the congregation.
@michaellautermilch9185 Fair enough. But think about this. If the pastor(s) are seminary graduates, then they ought to be able to teach to others all that they learned in Seminary. If that is true, then what need is there for a seminary? Seminaries are not a bad idea, and certainly God has used this mode and form of useful training, but why be bound to what is not officially ordained in scripture? A church does not necessarily have to abandon seminary or academic training, but why not begin a ministerial institution right within the church? I experienced this as a church I was part of in NJ. It was a ministerial academy taught and managed by the pastors of our church and anyone who wanted to attend and who believed that God was calling them to that office could become members of the church which was a Baptist church and attend the academy which was free of charge. Once they graduated after 4 years and their character was properly evaluated not only by the Pastors but the whole church who knew what manner of faith and life they exhibited could bear witness to their character and calling and recommend each to be considered for the office of pastor in other churches who were familiar with our faith and practice. Most of these men went on to serve the Lord and his people well. That is a perspective, I think.too many churches fail to see and pursue such an idea. Particularly if a church has the means to do so.
Just so you know family, i've lived and served in the ministry for 30 years 20 of each was in white evangelical churches. My close friends, my entire network was white evangelicals. i took a major hit in my entire world when 16 year old and unarmed Trayvon Martin was killed by Zimmerman. I was under the assumption we would all hurt the same that a 16 old kids with skittles and ice tea going home ends up with a bullet to the chest from a man who basically stalked him and confronted him. I had a baby brother the same age so i thought we were all on the same side. Then my world was rocked base over apex. Everyone of my white friends seemed eager to offer every other reason why the killing was justified. From saying its just the media, to saying the kid looked one way or the other. To say i was bewildered is to understate the facts. It was the first day my eyes open to what was going to unfold...for the next few years.
Follow. The. Money.
This is disgusting . Platt is a wolf.
47:30, sorry not sorry
“I’m sorry that you’re white.”
12:18 David Platt, apart from the big cities, the Southeast, and the Indian reservations, the country is still pretty hugely white. But there is something rather well-known called the black church. Perhaps you are aware that many of the church-going black people prefer to go to churches in this category. It is therefore as a result logically impossible for black people to be proportionally represented in other churches.
Amen! Good word.
I've been part of the same sort of a similar story where a thriving church had a pastor leave and the new pastor came in with a fire to draw people toward discipleship and true biblical living. The new pastor was run off by the charter members who just wanted things to stay the way they were. The people in this "mockumentary" are looking for reasons to be upset. I am fully aware of what has happened at MBC and you can see the character of people based on the clips shown. Love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, gentleness, faithfulness, and self-control are not among the attributes you see from this mob.
You can’t be serious???
You watched a different documentary. The former members of MBC clearly care about their church and were completely gaslit by the new leadership at that church. I found that out long before these documentaries came out.
This is a real question (I'm truly not trying to make fun): Does David Platt have a speech impediment?
It’s part of the act.
One thing I didn't understand was who Dale Sutherland was. Was he an elder? Why did he suddenly seem to become a leading figure in getting the church to call David Platt as their new pastor? What was Dale Sutherland's past?
David does those little rabbit paws instead of fists which most match his inner rage.
This makes me so angry to see such wickedness penetrate Christ's Church which grew up through a faithful Pastor and congregation. Only to be infiltrated. Reminds of a verse from this mornings bible study
"But false prophets also arose among the people, just as there will also be false teachers among you, who will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the Master who bought them, bringing swift destruction upon themselves. " (2 Peter 2:1, NASB)
A lot of things here I don’t see a problem with. Maybe I’m missing something?
The new leadership violated their own church's constitution and by-laws, misled and lied to their congregants, and then disfellowshipped them, lied about it, and gaslit them.
I'd like to hear from Lon Solomon about what happened.
Interesting that yesterday my Bible reading was in Leviticus where God warns against impartiality to the poor or rich.
Is David Platt still the head pastor there or has he left? Thanks.
Any idea how soon part 2 will be released and how many parts there will be.
When someone is being this deliberately deceptive and evasive in answering questions, he is clearly not a Christian.
Be careful when they don't want you to ask questions of a pastor. Especially during ordinarion