The Kinks - Waterloo Sunset Reaction

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  • @1183newman
    @1183newman 2 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    The Kinks should have def been as big as the beatles and the rolling stones. Ray Davies is a genius.

  • @thefowlyetti2
    @thefowlyetti2 2 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    Kinks were very much their own band, much more influencers than influenced.

    • @bruce5402
      @bruce5402 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @thefowl...agree 💯. They did not need anyone to influence them. The Kinks have their own creativity. Very original

  • @highpath4776
    @highpath4776 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Possibly the most beautifully crafted pop song of all time

    • @strategicthinker8899
      @strategicthinker8899 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Next to God Only Knows by The Beach Boys.

    • @francisheperi4180
      @francisheperi4180 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      A song that stopped me in my tracks to listen to it, whenever it played on the radio in '66 when it came out.

  • @diogenesagogo
    @diogenesagogo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Ray Davies was a superb song writer, especially when telling a gentle life affirming story like in this one (or a funny one like Lola, or Dandy, Well Respected Man etc.). The Kinks could rock it too, as you know. Pretty underrated band I reckon.

    • @martinbobfrank
      @martinbobfrank 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The Kinks being underrated is like saying the sun doesn't shine. It's an old, past band now, but in the UK most people over the age of thirty have heard of them. They are not underrated in the UK but are accepted as a music legend band.

  • @Codex7777
    @Codex7777 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Waterloo is the area around Waterloo Railway Station, in central London, near the south bank of the River Thames. At the time this was written, the area, although busy, was a bit grubby and run-down. The juxtaposition of that, with the beautiful images and harmonies in the song, is what really makes this track! :)
    The Kinks have many great tracks, often in very different styles, many of them groundbreaking. One of my personal favourites is, 'Sunny Afternoon' which I highly recommend. :)

  • @afc358
    @afc358 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Ray and Dave Davies can be found hanging out in Highgate, North London. Dave drinks in my local pub here, The Wrestlers.

  • @Pstephen
    @Pstephen 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Inspired, in part, by Ray Davies having had a tracheostomy followed by a long stay in St Thomas's Hospital when he was 13; the nurses used to wheel him out on a balcony of an evening to watch the sun setting over the river beside Waterloo Station (more or less). I learnt this from an Okkervill River song (Called Famous Tracheostomies) when I was in the same hospital having just had a Tracheostomy myself. It's great to see you two enjoying it.

  • @bolandjd
    @bolandjd 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    The Beatles?! OMG, you guys are killing me! The song heralded as the most beautiful song in the English language for its heartwarming revelation of finding transcendent beauty even on a bleak, cold evening in the grittiest underground station in London, and all you can say is "meh, sounds like the Beatles"? Did you know "Waterloo Sunset" was released before Sgt Pepper? The truth is that, yes, the Kinks were influenced by the Beatles. But it went both ways, and you better believe the Fab Four nicked PLENTY from the Kinks. Everybody did, because they were amazing and easily the most underrated band of the 60's, maybe ever. We just don't know them very well in the US because they were banned from touring here when they were at their peak. Also, you're wrong to say that this song doesn't sound like the Kinks; it sounds very much like other Kinks' songs from the late 60's. Do yourself a favor and listen to their other 60's output, especially the magnificent "The Kinks are the Village Green Preservation Society", but please don't say "Picture Book" sounds like it was influenced by Green Day.
    Sorry if that sounded negative. I was ignorant of the Kinks for a long time and now have the zeal of the converted. Thank you for giving it a listen and I hope a lot people who were like me hear this for the first time and get hooked like I did. And I do encourage you to give "Waterloo Sunset" a few more listens and get into the vibe of the urban landscape they were singing about. I mean, really, this is "Penny Lane" on steroids. Just way deeper than anything the Beatles were singing about. And I love the Beatles. But they didn't see through the glitz and false promises of the "Swingin' 60's" the way the Kinks did. I would love to see the Kinks get "rediscovered" in America like Kate Bush did recently.

    • @hanierfamily
      @hanierfamily  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      We are from Canada and the only Kinks music we were really familiar with was there big hits that made it to North America in the 80's and a couple of their early hits.

    • @JohnnySeven
      @JohnnySeven 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@hanierfamily saying that you're from Canada has nothing to do with what music you're familiar with at all. Widen your scope and you'll find that The Kinks are better than The Beatles and Beach Boys combined.
      Lennon/McCartney, Brian Wilson, Jagger/Richards .... don't equal one Ray Davies.

    • @JohnnySeven
      @JohnnySeven 2 ปีที่แล้ว

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    • @bolandjd
      @bolandjd 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@hanierfamily Sorry, I was kind of a meany in my comment. Most people outside of England only know You Really Got Me and Lola, maybe Come Dancing from the 80's. Definitely do more Kinks!

    • @hanierfamily
      @hanierfamily  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      We appreciate your passion. We're doing this to learn all that we don't know about music. I (Chris) was a DJ from 15 to about 35, so I know a lot of top hits and danceable music. And Cynthia was at all my shows in our teens. Now we want to hear the rest.

  • @edwardallen4051
    @edwardallen4051 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    This takes me back to when music absolutely filled my life. My favourite Kinks song.

  • @arthurimhof2427
    @arthurimhof2427 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    One of my alk time favorite bands. Ray Davies was the Shakespeare of lyrical music.. This song is such a beautiful refreshing song that takes you to a scene of tranquility perfect song after a rough day.

  • @dean-gm1lg
    @dean-gm1lg ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This is one of the best songs ever written

  • @sirandrelefaedelinoge
    @sirandrelefaedelinoge 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This one of my favourite songs ever; sheer perfection.

  • @sjames1955
    @sjames1955 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Not 'very Beatles.' Not 'very Beach Boys.' Very Ray Davies with a very Dave Davies guitar sound. No one deserves any credit for this masterpiece but the Kinks. Period.
    The Kinks were not inducted into the R&R Hall of Fame for sounding like Brian Wilson and Ray Davies was not knighted by Queen Elizabeth for sounding like Paul McCartney. Sorry if I sound hostile but Ray Davies never gets his due. I recently saw a young guitarist's list of most important riffs and it listed You Really Got Me as being from Van Halen for goodness sake. And btw when the Kinks played the Hollywood Bowl not long before this came out the Beach Boys were a supporting act.

    • @hanierfamily
      @hanierfamily  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh no! Van Halen?! No offense to VH but, the Kinks' version is untouchable. Of course, they were influenced. And it was a great track. But, I always go for the Kinks' original every time. That kid needs an education.

  • @Adam_Le-Roi_Davis.
    @Adam_Le-Roi_Davis. 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    The Kinks are an excellent band, this is a good track, but there are others that I prefer more. A bit of trivia, 'Terry meets Julie' is a reference to Terrance Stamp and Julie Christie.

  • @BrixtonTone
    @BrixtonTone 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Go over Waterloo Bridge at least once a week. At sunset it's one of the best views upstream and downstream you'll see of London and the river that runs through it.
    Iconic song from the Kinks. I always laugh at the implied reference that south of the river is dangerous 🤔. It maybe so but there are places north of the river I wouldn't venture into after dark.

  • @westlock
    @westlock ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Paul McCartney said that he wished that this was one of his songs.

  • @johnbarrick80
    @johnbarrick80 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is one of the best pop song ever recorded! Thank you,

  • @kevinjones4559
    @kevinjones4559 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Drummer Mick Avory still playing with Kink's tribute band 'Kast off Kinks ' . On tour , at Dartford on April 20th.

  • @grahamboffey457
    @grahamboffey457 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Quite probably the absolute pinnacle of song writing genius. This should NEVER, EVER be compared to the Beatles’ Sergeant Pepper. This was released before the Beatles, just. Davies was a master of encapsulating British vignettes in song.

  • @kenhewitt7357
    @kenhewitt7357 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great great song, I worked in Waterloo for for a fair few years so it's relevant to me.

  • @stevestead8571
    @stevestead8571 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This song is perfect - so gentle!

  • @leegoodison
    @leegoodison 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Don't we all wish ....we could write a song like this.

  • @jaymoraski
    @jaymoraski ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Great song when bands wrote, played and sang their own songs. No American Idol, the voice.
    I agree the Beatles came first and surely young musicians thought, hey I can to that and write songs. Bands of that era paid attention to their contemporaries, but the Kinks danced to their own beat, without a doubt, often times without regard to commercial success. They truly were not like everybody else. Unlike most bands, their set list changed in the spur of the moment on a whim or request without the whole bands knowledge. So many different styles of music over the years, often they were trend setters ahead of their time or doing there own thing regardless of main stream music. You just have to dig deep into their catalog. They were mismanaged, banned from the US for 4 years and had so many different record labels. I think Ray/Dave wanted to write great original songs and have respect of their peers and fans, but never wanted the constant worldwide spotlight and media attention given to the Beatles, Stones, the Who etc. Ray was really an introvert but on stage, he conjured up a totally different personality and really knew how to control the audience with tempo, mischief, gimmicks, stories and improv. Their career was so up and down. I think they self sabotaged on purpose at times so they could go off and write great unique albums that were sort of out of touch with current musical trends. If they got all the main stream media attention as the Stones, the Who, Ray and Dave probably would have cracked early on and never would have had such a long run. They rarely sold out to the music industry, wrote songs true to their identity and fans. They were so influential to other bands and most fans can really identify with the bands lyrics. I read that both John Mellencamp and Tom Petty, who were the opening acts for many Kinks shows, state that more than anybody, they learned from Ray how to be a front man and control the audience. You can't stop the music

  • @druidswillow1052
    @druidswillow1052 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Hi C&C, Yep great band The Kinks who should of been a much bigger band stateside sadly they were banned from touring North America between '65 through '69 after numerous issues with fighting onstage, promoters and record companies with 4 years away pop music had moved in different directions and although they enjoyed renewed sucess in early 70's they'd missed the boat as it were Cheers Jim, UK

  • @donaldhutnick3138
    @donaldhutnick3138 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It must be some feeling hearing for the first time a song that is better than any song you've ever heard before. Me and Pam were the greatest Kinks fans ever. At the Capitol Theater in Passiac Ray once handed me a bottle of Bud. One of the best moments of my life. Don aka Fiasco

  • @777petew
    @777petew 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I find it a longing heart-wrenching song, reflecting a love story at the end. Thank you

  • @scenxad
    @scenxad 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great song. Highly underappreciated.

  • @kevhanson1262
    @kevhanson1262 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Waterloo sunset is one of the Greatest British singles for a staple typical English lyrical diet its a must

  • @ChilliCheezdog
    @ChilliCheezdog 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Oh wow. Watching a couple hear Waterloo Sunset for the first time ❤

  • @Paul-me5tp
    @Paul-me5tp 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Whilst I suppose most pop/rock bands are influenced by the Beatles in some form - I have to say that the Kinks were very much their own band and not a Beatles or Beach Boys spin-off. Ray and Dave Davis wrote some of the most creative and 'left of field' songs of the 60's - e.g. You Really Got Me; All Day And All Of The Night; The Village Green Preservation Society; Come Dancing and possibly their best (or at least most memorable) song Lola.

  • @eddhardy1054
    @eddhardy1054 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Guys this is probably their most famous song

  • @mightyV444
    @mightyV444 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    9 again, even though only for a few minutes 😁👍 My Big Bro, then 23, had loaned me his collection of 45's for a while, in '79, and this was one of them 😊 Nice video and great song choice! 😀👍

  • @billalbritton4972
    @billalbritton4972 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Love brother Dave’s guitar o this number.

  • @taz454
    @taz454 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The Beach Boys reference from the lovely lady here is apt, I hear it too. Much love from England

  • @andyf2837
    @andyf2837 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is my favourite song full stop, Ray Davies' lyrics are beautiful and take you away. Davies is quintessentially english. Tracks like Lola and Sunday afternoon show their ability all day and all of the night!

  • @matthewashman1406
    @matthewashman1406 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Pete Townsend of the WHO said it was the greatest song ever

  • @MrBilgey
    @MrBilgey 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I played in a band that supported THE KINKS - not that THE KINKS needed supporting. The original idea for the song was Liverpool Sunset.

  • @wraithby
    @wraithby 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The Kinks don't sound like the Beatles. They do share a common interest in English music hall tunes. If anything the Kinks are as original and creative as the Beatles. If you watch that fairly recent interview show with Paul MCcartney and the producer / interviewer, Paul says the band that Beatles thought were totally original were the Kinks. You don't have enough knowledge of the Kinks to say " it doesn't sound like them". The Kinks have a huge output that was as, if not more, eclectic than the Beatles.

    • @NewscorpPhoneHackingDepartment
      @NewscorpPhoneHackingDepartment 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      calm down lol it's an astute observation and the kinks literally had to change the name from Liverpool sunset because they didn't want anyone to think it derivative of Penny Lane

    • @wraithby
      @wraithby 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@NewscorpPhoneHackingDepartment the Kinks wouldn't derive a song from a schmaltzy George Martin arrangement. They didn't need a baby sitter like Martin to craft their tunes.

    • @NewscorpPhoneHackingDepartment
      @NewscorpPhoneHackingDepartment 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@wraithby Sorry Ray ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

    • @wraithby
      @wraithby 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@NewscorpPhoneHackingDepartment you're forgiven. You can go back and play with your Fab Four bobble heads now.

    • @NewscorpPhoneHackingDepartment
      @NewscorpPhoneHackingDepartment 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@wraithby lol

  • @jakescrimshawmusic
    @jakescrimshawmusic 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Where have you been ?

  • @Malfie657
    @Malfie657 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You're right that this is quite different to most of the Kinks music, but a good track even so. Have you tried listening to Lola by them?

    • @hanierfamily
      @hanierfamily  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, we know that song. They've always been kind of quirky, haven't they.

    • @5imp1
      @5imp1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      So many brilliant songs. Village green preservation society, You really got me, Come Dancing. The list is endless.

    • @sjames1955
      @sjames1955 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It's actually very Kinks for that period of their long career.

  • @professorplums722
    @professorplums722 ปีที่แล้ว

    Favourite song by the Kink's....

  • @williamdeypres1122
    @williamdeypres1122 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yes, the mix on this version has been tampered with and it doesn't sound as smooth as the original single.

  • @5imp1
    @5imp1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Hi guys. Love the channel. I think you will get thousands of subscribers quite quickly. The Kinks were a very good band. Some would argue as good as the Beatles. Ray Davies is an extraordinary talented songwriter. So brilliant in fact, that his full title is Sir Ray Davies OBE. Some TH-camrs I have subscribed to seem to end up running out of ideas after a while. I love all the old bands from the 1960s 70s and 80s but you will run out of songs from them eventually. I'd love to see more of Ian Dury and the Blockheads, The Who, Madness, The Specials, The Selecter, Bad Manners, Status Quo, Black Sabbath, Rolling Stones, Led Zeppelin, Beach Boys, Ramones, Sex Pistols, The Dammed. Please, please, please react to Tim Armstrong (Into Action), Ian Dury (Supermans big sister), Toy Dolls (Nellie the Elephant) and The Kinks (Come Dancing OR The village green preservation society). There are just a few ideas to be going along with. Keep up the good work guys.

    • @hanierfamily
      @hanierfamily  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      We know 'Come Dancing' (80's kids), but we don't know the rest. Thanks. Now we have something to look forward to. We're hoping to get around our already vast knowledge of songs by listening to b-sides and lesser known hits. Maybe that will help us stay afloat for a while.

  • @paulkruger491
    @paulkruger491 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love Ray.

  • @richardhebden5603
    @richardhebden5603 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This is what would have happened if William Shakespear had continued with his guitar lessons. Totally English, totally rock and roll..

  • @eduardoc6441
    @eduardoc6441 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice review, but I am surprised you did not pick up (or did not mention) on the beauty and excellence of the lyrics.

  • @timarmstrong3251
    @timarmstrong3251 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It has great harmonies, but I'm not sure they are actually very Beach Boys-like. Beatles and Hollies more so. The harmonies serve the song, rather than the song serving the vocals.

  • @simonroe8679
    @simonroe8679 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You're so missing the point - this is a beautiful love song to London

  • @williamdeypres1122
    @williamdeypres1122 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    From someone who was there in the 60s, I can tell you the Kinks were nothing like the Beatles or the Beach Boys. Having said that, it's interesting that you're not the first Americans who, from a distance of time - tend to lump together British 60s bands with the Beatles. This version is also re-engineered with too much echo and detracts from the quality of the original single.

    • @hanierfamily
      @hanierfamily  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      We're Canadian. We decided on the Stereo mix, thinking it would be a nicer spread of the instruments. The Kinks, no doubt, influenced the Beatles and the Beach Boys in some way. All these bands were fans of each other.

  • @bigdave1302
    @bigdave1302 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Along with Penny Lane, perhaps the greatest single of all-time.

  • @wayneingram3138
    @wayneingram3138 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It sounds so Kinkish. Very British.

  • @daviddring2365
    @daviddring2365 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    In this period .... They were banned from the USA, leaving Ray free to sing about his homeland and it's quirks ..... he sings about Britain in a British accent ..... If anything, The Beatles were influenced by Ray

  • @gastrickbunsen1957
    @gastrickbunsen1957 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I would say they were influenced by new technology rather than plagiarism.
    Each band approached it their own way.
    Although, The Beach Boys did embrace it sooner than most.

  • @wolandbegemotazazello
    @wolandbegemotazazello ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Kinks, like the Beatles, were not a one note wonder rock band. Their music was diverse, superbly written, and affecting. For why the Beatles were not, at least early on, unique listen to the Mersyside band Screaming Blue Jeans's Hippy Hippy Shake. It was in the British air. As to the mixes, mono is better for the early Beatles and the early Kinks and beyond.

  • @martinbobfrank
    @martinbobfrank 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Ahh, you must be becoming popular because this came onto my TH-cam, and I watched it. I do like the Kinks, but you've never come up before! I'm sorry, but it was like I'd randomly hacked into your home wifi camera, and you were both pissed off with each other. I would guess, without looking, that the dude is a lower but averagely waged ICT guy, and the lady is working in a local junior school or badly paid office job. My request would be to play something that shakes your boat, that makes you forget about the camera and excites you both; something you are interested in and rocks you. If you had invited me into your house, and this was your reaction, I would be claiming I'd forgotten to feed the dog and made an early exit. Good luck with the future though, and I will subscribe because I am a nasty bastard!

    • @hanierfamily
      @hanierfamily  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      We like you already.

    • @hanierfamily
      @hanierfamily  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Actually, I'm a materials handler in food production, and Cynthia is unofficially disabled, and selling Scentsy products. This is our way to de-stress. And hey, if we get a following and can make it work financially, why not. I like your guesses, though.

    • @martinbobfrank
      @martinbobfrank 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@hanierfamily Hi, I'm Martin but my friends call me spiteful.
      I'm glad you have a proper job, but I agree that if you can make it work on TH-cam, why not?
      Say hello to Cynthia from me, as I'm also unofficially disabled but also unofficially a genius and much-loved guy. Officially I have some other traits, but we won't mention those!
      I've never heard of Scentsy before, being from the UK. However, I've just Googled it, and it looks okay for a website. However, my son can create websites and is a ten-year senior database programmer. So it could be selling them out of a garage for all I know.
      Good luck Mr. Hanier Family, and Cynthia .

  • @ddjen03
    @ddjen03 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Sir Ray Davies

  • @69Phuket
    @69Phuket ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Frank Sidebottom version was well better in my opinion! :)

    • @69Phuket
      @69Phuket ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And not because I live near Timperley

  • @frugalseverin2282
    @frugalseverin2282 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Again not a single word about the lyrics. Do you two ever examine the lyrics, maybe seek out the reason for the song being written in the first place?

  • @svlagonda7417
    @svlagonda7417 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I find these sort of videos difficult to believe. Anyone who knows anything music will have heard of waterloo sunset. Either that you've been living in a cave for the last 60 years.

    • @hanierfamily
      @hanierfamily  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Quite simply, we're 80's kids from small town Canada. Yes, I (Chris) was a DJ there but, with no internet existing at the time, I was limited on how I got my information. And small towns will only take so much from outside their little world. Muchmusic kept me current but, they were always about the right now.

  • @Jovolution
    @Jovolution ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Nice? It!s one of the Top ten best Rock songs ever.