4:24 Think it's because if it started with you, everyone could just choose the same creature you picked and you'd get only 1 creature destroyed. Starting with the next opponent in turn order means that since you're the last pick, you can always get at least 2 creatures even if the table is banding together against you (which will likely happen with a group-slug deck).
Ob Nixilis will benefit so much from those 1 pings, painful quandary along with waste not also amazing either 5 life or discard a card for my advantage! Loving this tech so far, I've been wanting to run Kaervec the merciless for ages and finally a viable way has come around
“Vial Smasher” could be viable if you run enough instant spells or give yourself flash somehow. The ping is whenever you cast your first spell “each” turn. So you can still trigger your commander during an opponent’s turn.
I'm far more interested in the Lord of Pain but that just cuz i like commanders that cause a lot of table talk and he seems like he'll give me that experience
Damn theese upgrade Videos are kinda bad, havent found a good one yet. Enchanters bane is awesome, it is either removal or big damage on each of your turns. Gary is always good. Theater of horror is like Rakdos phyrexian arena, still good enough.
@@LostPlaneswalker me too I wish he had the same thing for a better and bigger ability or just not having that once each turn crap but at least I got upgrades a little lol for Ob Nixilis. But you have a great day too also
Kinda different style decks that seem like they do the same thing but don’t… ob nix can pop off on your turn with pingers to impulse draw like crazy. Where as val looks to be an attrition based damage strat to make people sweat
They do super similar things, but the end goal is a bit different. Ob is best when you're storming off, casting a tonne of spells and cleaning up with damage. He has to be because if the turn gets back to you your opponents know all the exiled cards you have access to, and what's coming. He's tough to pilot at casual tanles because he's a very obvious threat, and from experience I find myself getting hated out before I can really pop off. He's a better commander because he's that omega level threat. Valgavoth is slower, grindier, and can hit like a truck when ready. The single card draw means that you can fly under the radar a bit more too, and you're not getting you commander hated out because it's a 15/15 with access to 10 exiled cards. The lack of a limit to 1 point of damage is a big thing two, it means I can torbran/solphim/City on Fire my Mana barbs to make the game go quicker if I want to and still trigger Valgavoth. I'm likely going to pull apart Ob Nix for casual tables for that exact reason.
Disagree. Ob Nixilis requires exactly 1 life to be lost. There are a ton of effects that add damage to ping effects. Many even double noncombat damage a source would deal. Stacking those up can get out of hand really fast for your opponents.
Ojer Axonil is definitely an include as well. It only works with the red sources of noncombat damage, but will still massively up the pain on them.
Roiling Vortex and Sulfuric Vortex are two instant includes as well.
4:24 Think it's because if it started with you, everyone could just choose the same creature you picked and you'd get only 1 creature destroyed. Starting with the next opponent in turn order means that since you're the last pick, you can always get at least 2 creatures even if the table is banding together against you (which will likely happen with a group-slug deck).
Ob Nixilis will benefit so much from those 1 pings, painful quandary along with waste not also amazing either 5 life or discard a card for my advantage! Loving this tech so far, I've been wanting to run Kaervec the merciless for ages and finally a viable way has come around
“Vial Smasher” could be viable if you run enough instant spells or give yourself flash somehow. The ping is whenever you cast your first spell “each” turn. So you can still trigger your commander during an opponent’s turn.
Vial smasher also chooses an opponent at random so he might not trigger valgavoth
That new Judith might go well too to capitalize on the spells, create some tokens that can ping as they die, I have so many ideas haha
Best flavor out of all the Duskmourn precons. No wonder it's sold out everywhere (I got mine, though, let's dish out some pain)
Love this deck, sold out anywhere I can find luckily all I need is like 5 cards to make this deck so singles I shall buy
bloodletter of alcatroz would also do the job
besides costing more to cast ofc but still is a demon which is kinda reactive with the rest of the deck
gary already comes in the deck !!!!!
I'm far more interested in the Lord of Pain but that just cuz i like commanders that cause a lot of table talk and he seems like he'll give me that experience
Damn theese upgrade Videos are kinda bad, havent found a good one yet. Enchanters bane is awesome, it is either removal or big damage on each of your turns. Gary is always good. Theater of horror is like Rakdos phyrexian arena, still good enough.
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Ob Nixilis is better than Valgavoth
I think so too. Valgavoth I think could have been a few more mana and had a bigger ability. I hope you have a great day!
@@LostPlaneswalker me too I wish he had the same thing for a better and bigger ability or just not having that once each turn crap but at least I got upgrades a little lol for Ob Nixilis. But you have a great day too also
Kinda different style decks that seem like they do the same thing but don’t… ob nix can pop off on your turn with pingers to impulse draw like crazy. Where as val looks to be an attrition based damage strat to make people sweat
They do super similar things, but the end goal is a bit different.
Ob is best when you're storming off, casting a tonne of spells and cleaning up with damage. He has to be because if the turn gets back to you your opponents know all the exiled cards you have access to, and what's coming. He's tough to pilot at casual tanles because he's a very obvious threat, and from experience I find myself getting hated out before I can really pop off. He's a better commander because he's that omega level threat.
Valgavoth is slower, grindier, and can hit like a truck when ready. The single card draw means that you can fly under the radar a bit more too, and you're not getting you commander hated out because it's a 15/15 with access to 10 exiled cards. The lack of a limit to 1 point of damage is a big thing two, it means I can torbran/solphim/City on Fire my Mana barbs to make the game go quicker if I want to and still trigger Valgavoth. I'm likely going to pull apart Ob Nix for casual tables for that exact reason.
Disagree. Ob Nixilis requires exactly 1 life to be lost. There are a ton of effects that add damage to ping effects. Many even double noncombat damage a source would deal. Stacking those up can get out of hand really fast for your opponents.
some of those cuts are pretty idiotic if id say so myself but you do you