Simulation and Hyperreality: Misconceptions about Baudrillard (Ft.
ฝัง
- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 6 ก.ย. 2024
- Exclusive Episodes on Patreon: / onedime
This podcast episode featuring David from the TH-cam channel @TheoryPhilosophy is about the post modern theorist Jean Baudrillard (the "high priest of postmodernism") and his highly misunderstood concepts of Simulation, Hyperreality, Illusion, and the nature of reality. David is an academic who has wrote extensively about Baudrillard and has covered most of Baudrillard's texts on his podcast and channel @TheoryPhilosophy (such as Simulacra and Simulation , The Perfect Crime , Symbolic Exchange and death , etc..).
Baudrillard is often associated with The Matrix film (which he did not think highly of), but he is a highly misunderstood thinker and most TH-cam videos and podcasts seem to get a lot of his core ideas completely wrong, such as the faux "Simulation vs Reality" distinction. David and I attempt the difficult task of trying to break down Baudrillard's ideas in simple terms and debunk misunderstandings about them. But WARNING: This stuff will sound very confusing at first if you are not familiar with postmodern theory. HINT: Simulation is NOT the opposite of "Reality."
David/Theory & Philosophy's channel: / @theoryphilosophy
David's Twitter: / davidguignion
David's podcast episodes on Baudrillard: • Jean Baudrillard's "Th...
Intro song: Netwar by Steady Delta
Outro song: DeeeLite - Call me (Method One Rmx)
Baudrillard lecture clip: • Baudrillard - The Murd...
Rick Roderick Baudrillard lecture clip: • Baudrillard - The Murd...
Read More Books with Speechify: speechify.com/...
![เปิดใจ พี่ญา คนรุม หลังทัวร์ลง หนักสุดในชีวิต!! l [Nickynachat]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/2-OJZRtclro/mqdefault.jpg)
Exclusive educational content on Patreon: patreon.com/OneDime
Many have asked me for tips on how to read a lot. Here is a hack that I use all the time to consume 10x more books when I don’t have time to read (I typically only read physical books in the morning): I use this app called Speechify, which is by far the best text-speech reader on the internet (trust me I have tried em all). You can plug in PDFs or links of books or articles, and it will read them to you. It’s scary how many of the AI voices feel exactly like real humans. If I had used this app earlier in my life, I would have saved SO much money on not buying audiobooks.
You can sign up using my link here (I will get a little affiliate commission): speechify.com/?source=fb-for-mobile&via=1Dime
Thx for having me, dawg!
Was a blast! Will absolutely have you on again sometime
I found this immensely helpful. Baudrillard is one of those thinkers that I tried to read a while ago, and maybe it's because it was a poor translation or whatever but I just could not get through more than the first chapter, I just couldn't hack it and I didn't feel motivated enough to push through. You guys did a fabulous job of breaking down the concepts without oversimplifying.
Cheers!
Melody
Baudrillard is extremely difficult to read at first, as is the case with most French postmodernist thinkers. Took me a long time before I understood what I was even reading. That's why the vast majority of content on Baudrillard completely get's his ideas wrong
Thanks for this, 1Dime! Wonderful discussion! I'm very glad David has done so much great work on correcting the terrible interpretations of Baudrillard that circulate online.
I'd heard of Baudrillard and that was about it - I don't know theory. Had a feeling from the title that I was gonna love this and I wasn't wrong.
As soon as you mentioned simulation_simulacra I thought of Philip K. Dick's writing. 'Minority Report' is a pretty good sci-fi film (I'm not overly keen on a lot of them, preferring books of the genre.)
Your brief discussion of it seemed to lend itself to wider themes of determinism vs free will, or reversibility - if that tracks?
Hyper-reality seems to be almost a return to what we had left behind and only very recently. In that while trying to replicate natural reality and all of its nuance_chaos , we end up back in a Newtonian reality.
Our conception of reality becomes again clockwork, definitive points rather than ranges of possibilities and the presumed nonsense of quantum mechanics.
Simulation is reality mediated by our senses which are limited - natural artifice.
Simulacra then is artificial artifice - reality mediated by media. It's frustrating that some seem to see this as only a post-industrial revolution_digital phenomena and I appreciated you mentioning cave art, as it seems culture, language etc are all included.
I recall hearing once that some scientists believe that we are dreaming when awake, not just in REM sleep. Also our field of vision is only clear directly ahead and the rest is filled in by memories_expectation.
Whenever I have questioned capital I get told that I have to live in the real world, ffs!
I do believe in science, however I try to avoid having a blind faith in it. I feel that in our rush to become secular_objective_more real we have thrown baby Jesus out with the bath water.
Or to remove it from my upbringing - we risk throwing out the ineffable in a rush to codify objective truth.
I love Douglas Adams for suggesting that the answer to the GUT_TOE is 42 - allows ambiguity and agency_choice. The sky may be empty, however we can paint it whichever colours we can imagine. His humour to me seemed absurdist and I loved that too.
'The camera never lies' infuriates me as it pre-empts alternative points of view_realities - you have to conform to the objectivity of a simulacra. When placed above eye witness reports it sometimes then becomes hyper-real?
For example: It disappointed me that media savvy commenters saw that 14 second video of the cop planting the empty baggy in the guy's car and this was taken as objective reality_truth, with no questioning by some. It was like they'd never heard of the counter, 'It's all in the edit.'
"There is a crack in everything, that's how the light gets in." Leonard Cohen.
Sorry for the waffle, however this got my brain fizzing 💜
Just wanna say youre doin a great thing here for the left, youre essays have gotten better n better, love the podcasts each one has been very informational and has done well at properly representing these ideas and making them conversational and not so academic, shows your grasp on the subject. Keep up the content and i look forward to these awesome collabs ive watched a lot of your guest before i even found you and i feel like a lot of influential leftest dont collab nearly enough, its very entertaining to hear theory discusses with two well versed lefties, just wanted to let you know your work does go appreciated and if i could become a patreon rn i would but ill continue to like and share ur content so keep it up
Thank you! Means a lot (:
I think this is the best exploration of Baudrillard’s concepts that I’ve heard.
Man if you could ever have a convo with Joscha Bach I think you'd find his perspective on these kinds of ideas fascinating. Great convo!
Baudrillard looks like a guy from the Chamber of Commerce in Indiana, except he's clearly French by way the hand holds the cigarette.
Who is the guy talking at the very beginning of the video? I've heard this guy before and even seen clips of his lectures in other philosophical TH-cam videos but have no idea who that guy is. Would love to find more of his stuff.
Rick Roderick. Mentioned in the description of the video
Rick Roderick
This really put Baudrillard into perspective
oh shit it's mind-blowing, thank you, guys
Vital. Just a tip when covering guys like this, try and make them relevant by real time examples. I know you do this sometimes but philosopher becomes alive when rolled out amongst us in the here and now. What would Baudrillard say about tinder, for example?
I did do that when discussing p0rnography. But Tinder’s effect on dating dynamics is also a very interesting case where Baudrillard could be applied
You are hilarious. I loved this.
What is the outro song? Great podcast btw keep it up!
Its called DeeeLite - Call me (Method One Rmx)
you know this is where itd help a lot if english was a logographic language. Then Reality and Reality could have their own distinct characters 😅
Never beeing able to pass the simulation fits with lacans idea of the real in his psychoanalysis and zizeks idea of ideology building onto this.
🖤
hmm the link to davids essays doesn't seem to be working?
Just realized what he sent me was a private PDF. The public seems to be under an academic paywall. If you want I can ask him if I can email it to you
ayyyyy!