•The Saltzman Mothers (+ Alaric, Josie and Lizzie)

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  • @Katherine-bt7sr
    @Katherine-bt7sr 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1530

    I will Always Consider Caroline as their mom. I think the Forbes did that well. Elizabeth Forbes and Caroline Forbes were the best mothers.

    • @Angela-iz5ri
      @Angela-iz5ri 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Sayani Bhadra Damn this is freaking Realtalk thanks!

    • @minubiswas2051
      @minubiswas2051 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      We haven't seen Elena yet & her mother died too soon to show us anything

    • @Katherine-bt7sr
      @Katherine-bt7sr 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@minubiswas2051 Sorry honey... But we don't need to see that to know this that they were always the best. And that's the tea.

    • @azurithh
      @azurithh 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Sayani Bhadra facts

    • @imsmelly243
      @imsmelly243 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Joe would have been good to -_- untill they killed her -_-

  • @leenaraphael4284
    @leenaraphael4284 4 ปีที่แล้ว +828

    Sometimes I think Caroline should've gone to New Orleans with Klaus. She might have got a happy ending

    • @kellyrose9682
      @kellyrose9682 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Leena Raphael yeah

    • @tuffany6392
      @tuffany6392 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      She did with the twin when they were young but the on,y reason was bc marcel was imprisoning Klaus

    • @Homicidaloreo1308
      @Homicidaloreo1308 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@tuffany6392 and at the end when he died and she was his last kiss🥺

    • @CarpeNoctem1864
      @CarpeNoctem1864 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      She'd still be a widow

    • @random_meta
      @random_meta 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      She has a happy family, like someone before me said already, She'd be a widow

  • @CrAZychicke
    @CrAZychicke 4 ปีที่แล้ว +873

    When Ric told Caroline they weren't hers I was going to slap him. I loved Jo so so much, and her death(s) were tragic af, but Caroline was also part of their lives and helped raised them. She's also their mother, even if not blood related.

    • @hayleysantos3648
      @hayleysantos3648 4 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      Yeah it’s like when you adopt except like she had them

    • @kmrruss8590
      @kmrruss8590 4 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Exactly and Caroline is the reason there here.

    • @dayshapollard5437
      @dayshapollard5437 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      It kinda is blood related bcuz car did carry them for 9 months and gave birth to them

    • @ramziahmed674
      @ramziahmed674 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@kmrruss8590I guess but the coven put them there plus they came from Alarics sperm and into jo egg but i guess that is why she is bio mom and caroline is birth mom

    • @leatabinowski532
      @leatabinowski532 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      CrAZychicke and she did give birth to them so technically they are hers

  • @harleenquinzel3420
    @harleenquinzel3420 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2602

    It wasnt Jo's fault that she wasnt there for them. 😭

    • @-autumnfeelings
      @-autumnfeelings 4 ปีที่แล้ว +121

      Right, it was Kais fault

    • @marvesammm6707
      @marvesammm6707 4 ปีที่แล้ว +113

      At first Lizzie acted like if it was jo’s choice and that kinda made mad but then the scene came where she had to Leave and well 😩

    • @Emma-in5dh
      @Emma-in5dh 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      No joke

    • @romyrose5631
      @romyrose5631 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      It was sad as 😫😫 my heart broke for jo

    • @Alex2468ful
      @Alex2468ful 4 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      I think Lizzie being defensive of Caroline as her mother is sweet though. While I understand that for Lizzie to be the person she is she really does come from all three, Alaric, Jo AND Caroline. Lizzies proof of that lol. Caroline gave birth to her mini-self and they’re not even genetically related lolol

  • @vornamenachname5183
    @vornamenachname5183 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2198

    You can probably see that Lizzy is more like Caroline and Josie more like jo ⭐️

    • @Alex2468ful
      @Alex2468ful 4 ปีที่แล้ว +64

      That’s a beautiful parallel by the writes to their unique conception. Homage to the two women who helped bring them into the world.

    • @braelynvandale5499
      @braelynvandale5499 4 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      I love that they made them, to have their personality’s. I love that Caroline was their mother. Just imagine tho if Jo was still alive this would be a totally different ending to the show

    • @braelynvandale5499
      @braelynvandale5499 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Vampire Fan 17 I know that. I was saying that I loved that they had different personalities from their moms.

    • @Alex2468ful
      @Alex2468ful 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@bl8892 I think it’s more of a physical resemblance in terms of complexion and hair coloring, plus Jo definitely inherited her mother’s affinity for magic as we’ve seen Josie is actually the more powerful of the twins. I think it’s harder for Lizzie to connect with that part of her biological family as she’s colored like Luke and Liv (who were similar looking to Caroline to a certain degree) so she gravitated to Caroline more and seems to have unconsciously emulated her. Even Josie herself has said “Lizzie’s just like her. you’d never know she wasn’t her biological mom”

    • @Alex2468ful
      @Alex2468ful 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@bl8892 that’s what I said lol, she’s colored like Luke and Liv who by coincidence were colored similarly to Caroline

  • @tinatorres3408
    @tinatorres3408 4 ปีที่แล้ว +701

    Tbh I honestly love how protective Lizzie is of Caroline

    • @nothingbutintroverted4372
      @nothingbutintroverted4372 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      she wasn’t protective she was literally just being a bitch

    • @genz3651
      @genz3651 4 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      @@nothingbutintroverted4372 Which she had every right to be. Caroline gave birth and raised her and Josie.

    • @amberwashington6543
      @amberwashington6543 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@genz3651 what the hell did jo do she was just being a selfish bitch what she's always been a pathetic bitch who was rude to her mother

    • @annesleywilliams7087
      @annesleywilliams7087 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@genz3651 it's not like Jo got up and left and abandoned them. She was murdered. And she would have raised her girls if she was given the chance. Lizzie was being a b*ch for no reason. Jo didn't return acting like nothing happened and trying to run the place. She respectfully gave Caroline credit and acknowledged her role. Lizzie's behavior towards her Biological mother Jo was uncalled.

    • @florianejouanin-bibiloni8352
      @florianejouanin-bibiloni8352 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@annesleywilliams7087 you're right... But i think you forget something....
      For lizzie, Joe is a complete stranger, just à picture in her dad's office. That's all. She obviously doesn't know her, and at the beginning she just wasn't interested in the idea of knowing her better. Her Mother is Caroline, that's all, she obviously never think about Joe like a mom, she said herself : "She's not a mom, She's just DNA "... I think, when she saw Joe and réalise Who she was, she was just scared to see her take her Mother's place and reclaim what was originally her place... We can't blame Lizzie for that.. By acting like that, she was just trying to say to Joe that she doesn't want her to take her Mother's place, that was too hard and kind of cruel but... Hey, She's 16, everyone can be cruel or harsh at 16 years old. She's just a teen ~~
      We knew Joe from Vampire Diaries, we liked her, we have a... "bond" with her. But Lizzie's don't. She never met her before. She was just a picture and a tale..

  • @antonelabaraban
    @antonelabaraban 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1389

    never understood why the twins and alaric didnt take a selfie with jo when they had a chance

    • @jade-9948
      @jade-9948 4 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      Thank you for writing this comment it made me laugh 🥺😂❤️

    • @AA-sb8zt
      @AA-sb8zt 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Antonela B. Exactly, like first of all she is gorgeous, and second of all MEMORIES lol 😂

    • @leatabinowski532
      @leatabinowski532 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Antonela B. Same

  • @isabelvasquez6395
    @isabelvasquez6395 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2230

    Am I the only one who is glad that Caroline was their mom❤️

    • @-autumnfeelings
      @-autumnfeelings 4 ปีที่แล้ว +156

      It think both would have been great mothers

    • @lauramalenica9522
      @lauramalenica9522 4 ปีที่แล้ว +54

      I am glad to but it would be great that jo is alive again

    • @marvesammm6707
      @marvesammm6707 4 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      Isabel Vasquez sure but jo would’ve been better

    • @aaliyahb8561
      @aaliyahb8561 4 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      Hell No I’m happy as hell she’s their mom she got to have the family she always wanted and she is a great you could tell she love those girls more than anything

    • @marvesammm6707
      @marvesammm6707 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Aaliyah B well duh but it wouldve been way better if jo was still alive

  • @subscribersWithoutanyvid-st9ht
    @subscribersWithoutanyvid-st9ht 5 ปีที่แล้ว +929

    I wish the twins will know that their dad is an *Enhanced vampire* before

    • @-autumnfeelings
      @-autumnfeelings 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Why? What would that change?

    • @THISNAMEISTAKEN-sd8nv
      @THISNAMEISTAKEN-sd8nv 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      Maja W. So they know he wasn’t just a weak average human. That he was supernatural before and he knows the pain of being supernatural

    • @g.t2231
      @g.t2231 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      There father whas a badd ass Who almost killd klaus 👏👏

  • @idabjernemose
    @idabjernemose 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1032

    “Shes not our mother, shes DNA”-lizzie saltzman

    • @loiccooper5375
      @loiccooper5375 4 ปีที่แล้ว +95

      But I'm kinda glad that their mother was Caroline

    • @ramziahmed674
      @ramziahmed674 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@loiccooper5375 there mom is Jo Caroline raised them and birthed them.

    • @Alex2468ful
      @Alex2468ful 4 ปีที่แล้ว +45

      Ramzi Ahmed they have two mother. One biological and the other who birthed them and raised them. Both mothers were necessary to producing the twins we know and love

    • @shiahkuwonu9000
      @shiahkuwonu9000 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@ramziahmed674 their mom is caroline. dna or blood doesn’t make family.

    • @daz5491
      @daz5491 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@shiahkuwonu9000 Jo is also their mother

  • @JuMixBoox
    @JuMixBoox 4 ปีที่แล้ว +400

    I loved that scene so much when Caroline talked to Klaus about the babies. She still insisted they weren't hers, but Klaus already knew that she would love the *** out of them. Because he knew what a nurturing and caring person she was and he knew that he was even more reluctant at the thought of fatherhood, but the love he felt made him so much stronger. I also liked the offer of Hope's old baby clothes in the Louis XIV crate. Because exchanging your kid's old clothes is so mundane and real and because meeting Louis XIV is so fantastic and surreal. And because Klaus truly supported Caroline. And he truly knew her.

  • @bernamorales3881
    @bernamorales3881 3 ปีที่แล้ว +68

    Lizzie: “am Lizzie after my mother’s mom”
    I love how much Lizzie loves Caroline

  • @merlindehempenius734
    @merlindehempenius734 4 ปีที่แล้ว +431

    I want to see Caroline in the legacies 😅.

    • @zeynepberensahin6315
      @zeynepberensahin6315 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      And klause but ı thınk damon coming season 3 legaciese

    • @m00nismx15
      @m00nismx15 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Zeynep beren Şahin Oof, I thought Klause died tho

    • @m00nismx15
      @m00nismx15 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Jayla Maurice omg really, idek

    • @kayeaok
      @kayeaok 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@zeynepberensahin6315 klaus is sadly dead ;-:

  • @romyrose5631
    @romyrose5631 4 ปีที่แล้ว +304

    Caroline is definitely their mum raised and birth her she is a wonderful mum but I feel bad for jo it’s like they were mad it’s not her fault she died and wasn’t around it would be heart breaking to hear your children say that. I think jo and Caroline are both their mums. Lizzie reminds me of Caroline and Josie reminded me of jo

    • @tillyheverin7237
      @tillyheverin7237 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Romy Rose plus caroline scarified everything for those kids, and she carried them for so much longer then hi did

    • @Emma-in5dh
      @Emma-in5dh 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Romy Rose agreed

    • @Emma-in5dh
      @Emma-in5dh 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Tilly Heverin first of all don’t make it sound like jo didn’t want them

    • @Emma-in5dh
      @Emma-in5dh 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Vampire Fan 17 agreed

  • @jayda4297
    @jayda4297 4 ปีที่แล้ว +613

    I feel so bad for Jo... When Liz said ‘mom’ I knew she was talking about Caroline but their biological mom was standing right in front of her.. And they got mad at Jo. Like it’s not her fault she couldn’t be there for them💔

    • @hayleysantos3648
      @hayleysantos3648 4 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      Yeah. I think Lizzie just didn’t want to replace Caroline since she did raise them and was there for them and the only reason she wasn’t at there birthday was cause she was trying to find some stuff to save them.

    • @enjoyingmyvodka1013
      @enjoyingmyvodka1013 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      I don’t think they blamed her or were upset because of that or at all it was like an instinct because the only mother they truly knew is Caroline so it was more like loyalty. I think Jo understood that that’s why she told doc to thank Caroline for her. They knew of Jo but she was truly a stranger in a way, but they still grew to love her

    • @dayshapollard5437
      @dayshapollard5437 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      How can jo be their biological mom tho she didnt give birth to them caroline did i get that jo was pregnant with them first but she died and them caroline got pregnant with them🙃so caroline is their biological mom
      Not tryna hate on you

    • @enjoyingmyvodka1013
      @enjoyingmyvodka1013 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Daysha Pollard I think it was supposed to be that Jos full DNA and perhaps uterus was transferred to Caroline. I mean they are witches lol 😂

    • @dayshapollard5437
      @dayshapollard5437 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@enjoyingmyvodka1013 yeah i know

  • @aashka9734
    @aashka9734 4 ปีที่แล้ว +66

    It hurt when he said “my kids”

  • @camilleb1366
    @camilleb1366 4 ปีที่แล้ว +104

    I know, I know that the actors don't wanna come back but damn I wish we had a scene with the girls and Caroline

  • @dheekshaaaravind93
    @dheekshaaaravind93 4 ปีที่แล้ว +100

    Both Jo and Caroline deserved to be their mothers❤️

  • @kazmyh
    @kazmyh 4 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    jo deserved better. she was sweet and funny and amazing. she didn't deserve what happend to her and it wasn't her fault. she still watched over them and I think that's so sweet.

  • @tahmenaferdous5213
    @tahmenaferdous5213 4 ปีที่แล้ว +129

    Its so sad we haven't seen Caroline in Legacies. Not even in flashback

    • @gaiaregnante1801
      @gaiaregnante1801 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Caroline does not appear in legacies because she is looking for a way not to make them melt at 22 and then make one of them die (probably Lizzie because from what I understand in Legacies Josie is stronger) .

  • @whiskeyblack806
    @whiskeyblack806 4 ปีที่แล้ว +236

    It was such BS that Jo didn't get brought back. Everyone else freaking did

  • @eliajuarez2092
    @eliajuarez2092 4 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    This is just as sad as when Hope found out that the dress she was wearing was picked out by her father, klaus... I bet these moments will come out in the future videos with the title “saddest moments in Legacies “ probably in mrsmojo

  • @em-pr5jv
    @em-pr5jv 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    when Alaric said Josie and Lizzie were "HIS" kids in vampire diaries i got so upset. it doesn't matter if Caroline was the twins biological mom or not, she raised them and took them as her own. Both Jo and Caroline will forever be the twins mothers. Jo wished she could've been there to see her girls grow up but Kai took that chance away :(

  • @inlovewithameriah
    @inlovewithameriah 4 ปีที่แล้ว +122

    It’s sad jo wasn’t able to raise her kids but at least her coven gave them to a great parent one takes after one and the other takes after the other it’s great but sad

  • @dearselene1513
    @dearselene1513 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    When caroline was in all shows VD, Legacies, the originals. I love her so much

  • @anniecollado8692
    @anniecollado8692 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    i love how coraline always treated them the same even though she knew lizzie was more like her she treated them the same and loved them the same. i wanna say the same for jo but we all knew she treated lizzie different from josie. and I know it’s because she saw more of her in josie. but she really was grateful for coraline

    • @anniecollado8692
      @anniecollado8692 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      also i know lizzie wasn’t as comfortable with jo as josie, so i can see why jo felt off with lizzie.

  • @dayshapollard5437
    @dayshapollard5437 4 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    We cant cheat on mom with mommy dearest😂😂😂

  • @justatree9092
    @justatree9092 4 ปีที่แล้ว +114

    If someone that never watched any of the shows saw the title it would sound like they were lesbian mothers lol

  • @biancafigueroa6445
    @biancafigueroa6445 4 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Lizzie is just like Caroline while Jo is just like Jo

  • @Briar-
    @Briar- 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I hate how Alaric at first acts like they aren’t Jo’s kids. They may not know her but Jo knows them, and they are still her children and a part of her family, and they should have grown up knowing that. They should feel like Caroline’s their mother, but they should have grown up at least knowing who Jo was when she was alive and that Jo will always be with them, even if she isn’t really there. They should know that Jo will be watching over them and that she loves them instead of thinking she was just someone who helped create them and didn’t care, because that’s obviously what Lizzie’s been lead to believe

  • @vanzmari7594
    @vanzmari7594 4 ปีที่แล้ว +126

    I’m so gladdd that Kai is going to be on legacies 😭😤🥳🥳

    • @jade-9948
      @jade-9948 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      He is?

    • @elisabethhomie2440
      @elisabethhomie2440 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hqsitation how do you know that? is there a new season trailer then?

    • @vanzmari7594
      @vanzmari7594 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I know you can’t believe everything online but if you look it up it says he’s gonna be in this season in February I think episode 12 maybe but I’m not sure

    • @vanzmari7594
      @vanzmari7594 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He’s coming in on February 6.

    • @Mirafunz
      @Mirafunz 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      What show is this

  • @aaliyah5286
    @aaliyah5286 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This was so sad but good at the same time. And I remember when Rick yelled at Caroline saying that they are not her kids, that was really meat up

  • @azazina8592
    @azazina8592 4 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    This sentence seriously broke my heart 3:58. Jo will always be there biological mother but Caroline is there birth mother and it’s sad both don’t wanna see them get hurt so they ask ric to make them stay away from them 💔

    • @genz3651
      @genz3651 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@bl8892 Okay but Caroline is still their mother. She gave birth to them even though she didn't have to, and almost died doing so. She also raised them with Alaric.

    • @genz3651
      @genz3651 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@bl8892 genes don’t really matter when she was the one who raised and nurtured them. That’s like saying adopted kids will never be their adoptive parents true child which isn’t true. Genes aren’t everything.

    • @bl8892
      @bl8892 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      They do have Caroline's DNA right?

    • @bl8892
      @bl8892 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@genz3651 But they do have Caroline's DNA.

    • @Karatheadventuregirl
      @Karatheadventuregirl 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Lizzie is Caroline and Joe is josset daughter they act just like there mom😭

  • @allik-b5j
    @allik-b5j 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Caroline is every bit of a mother as anyone else she gave birth to then raised them

    • @bl8892
      @bl8892 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Do they have her DNA?

  • @macy5477
    @macy5477 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    am i the only one glad that caroline is their mother? she cares about them so much

  • @13456789101
    @13456789101 4 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    Jo, I wish you were there for the kids and Alaric. It brings back so many memories. JO AND CAROLINE THE BEST MOMS EVER!!!! ;)

  • @ivansucks_3926
    @ivansucks_3926 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I love Jo [as in the mum] but I'm kinda glad Caroline was the one the raise them and give birth to them

  • @yusurkassem4174
    @yusurkassem4174 5 ปีที่แล้ว +61

    OMG I’m gonna cry and I’m really trying not to

  • @ajsingh3899
    @ajsingh3899 4 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    Did anyone notice that Lizzie is named after Caroline’s mother Elizabeth

  • @alishaiyer8546
    @alishaiyer8546 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Lizzies angry side is from Caroline before vampire and Lizzies good side is like Caroline after becoming a vampire . If that makes sense

    • @bl8892
      @bl8892 ปีที่แล้ว

      Because Caroline raised her?

  • @vivihaithem4058
    @vivihaithem4058 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    They will always be Caroline's girls❤️

  • @adamrodriguez86
    @adamrodriguez86 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It would be awesome to see all of them as one big blended family just for one time.

  • @kaylabooker9429
    @kaylabooker9429 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    i was literally thinking about that blond as caroline and brown like jo

    • @jessikapresinal6289
      @jessikapresinal6289 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bl8892 then what is it? Caroline has blond hair while Jo has Brown including Ric.

    • @jennifernolasco1771
      @jennifernolasco1771 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Lizzies blond came from her youngest aunt Olivia. Jo’s sister.

    • @audreymarie9646
      @audreymarie9646 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jessikapresinal6289 Jo's younger siblings had blonde hair

    • @audreymarie9646
      @audreymarie9646 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Liv and Luke had blonde hair though

    • @audreymarie9646
      @audreymarie9646 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jennifernolasco1771 Yes some of Jo's relatives had blonde hair too. I agree. I think some people forgot that.

  • @katrinaj8957
    @katrinaj8957 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I know Caroline was an amazing mother but I kinda wish that Jo got a chance to raise them and be their mother

  • @laurenc4344
    @laurenc4344 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    lizzie could also have taken after liv, liv is so underated and i love them both

  • @Kluane09
    @Kluane09 ปีที่แล้ว

    The most loving thing to hear is when jo tells to alaric to thank caroline for loving her kids as her own for jo. Jo was not in disgust she was very happy that her babies were able to have a life that she couldnt give herself unfortunately. Jo and caroline are amazing mothers to lizzie and josie ❤️❤️

  • @melinaa3651
    @melinaa3651 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Lizzie should have given a chance to love Jo like Josie did. It wasn't Jo's fault that she couldn't be by their side. That's why I personally like Josie more than Lizzie. She gave Jo a chance as she knew she is their biological mother. Caroline did a great job as their birth mother but Jo should have gotten more credit😥❤️

    • @genz3651
      @genz3651 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I actually disagree. Lizzie's feelings are valid. Remember Lizzie needs mental help as it is shown in the show. She struggles with her emotions as much as Hope does. I wouldn't say Josie is neglected but it's obvious Lizzie had to get a bit more attention because of her problem. So it isn't surprising that she clung to Jo more that lizzie did. Let's not also forget that Lizzie takes after Caroline and Josie takes after Jo. Lizzie knows it isn't Jo's fault that she wasn't there to raise them, but imagine going your whole life being told that your biological mother was killed. Lizzie and Josie have really different personalities . Just as Josie's feelings towards Jo are valid, Lizzie's feelings are valid too.

  • @noiseetamilan2403
    @noiseetamilan2403 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    You can say that both Lizzie and Caroline love bad people who are actually good

  • @sadeenbayyoud3026
    @sadeenbayyoud3026 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love how Penelope made it in this video

  • @asmitadas37
    @asmitadas37 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This was so emotional 😭 😭🥺🥺🥺🥺❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

  • @mileetwinzz282
    @mileetwinzz282 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I hate all these freaking comments about Joe like Caroline is their mother she gave birth to them she raised them and I hateeeee how Rick said their not hers SHE WENT THREW A PREGNANCY SHE DIDNT ASK FOR but It was worth it those kids are Caroline’s AND Rick’s and Ik Joe had her life taken she wasnt able to take care of her kids, hold them, go threw with the pregnancy her mother hood was taken from her and that’s not ok but im not goin to sit here and read the comments and let y’all BASH Caroline

    • @megsmacgregs320
      @megsmacgregs320 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah, that was one of the few times I actually hated Alaric. Because even though Jo would've been a wonderful mom, Caroline was put into a situation where she had to birth those babies and then she made the choice to help Alaric raise them. It was good that Ric understood that even though Jo will always be their mother, Caroline is their mom. I think he just got defensive because her life put those girls at risk, but him blaming Caroline and telling her she wasn't their mom was still a horrible thing to do.

  • @mayagreene7785
    @mayagreene7785 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I swear I cried for an hour 😂 with the scene when they siphoned the magic out of Jo

    • @mayagreene7785
      @mayagreene7785 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@justinzorro7573 It’s not just Gemini’s that are siphoners you have the “family” of Lily Salvatore also I think they do their still Jo’s and Alaric’s and Caroline did give birth and raised them but biologically in the magic apartment their Jo’s because if they were Caroline’s they would be just human not witches

    • @justinzorro7573
      @justinzorro7573 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mayagreene7785 They would be part vampire if they were biologically Caroline's.

  • @kaceymikaelson2902
    @kaceymikaelson2902 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Caroline - Liv - Kai - Damon - Lizzie💙💜💙
    Caroline - Jo - Stefan - Luka - Josie 💛💜💛

  • @kateoxley258
    @kateoxley258 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why did i get chills when both jo and caroline found out they were pregnant

  • @hanifah-h5g
    @hanifah-h5g ปีที่แล้ว

    i think this was the best storyline in tvd none like i’ve seen

  • @CarpeNoctem1864
    @CarpeNoctem1864 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I wish Liz could've known them

  • @jaebae04
    @jaebae04 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I wish Jo had the chance to be a mother to them . She would've been great

  • @samriddhi4077
    @samriddhi4077 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Let’s be honest, Caroline with Lizzie and josie has more mother-daughter bonding than hope with Hayley in the whole TVDU

  • @montgomerymulti3594
    @montgomerymulti3594 5 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    This is so amazing x

  • @sukhfarm7355
    @sukhfarm7355 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Forbes Woman are the best mothers. No you can't argue.

  • @alicjaodelga1406
    @alicjaodelga1406 4 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    Omg 😥 I’m crying so hard 😭😭

  • @jadeyun9517
    @jadeyun9517 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Juro que no estoy llorando😭
    ¡Dios! Esto es tan triste😭💔

  • @jaylab1ack
    @jaylab1ack 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Ugh this makes me sooo sad it's not Jo's fault she has a psychopath brother which is why she couldn't raise them.

  • @imsmelly243
    @imsmelly243 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    We were so happy Joe was back and then she died right away-_- :( :c

  • @esthernwaokoro7154
    @esthernwaokoro7154 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Cut jo some slack if she didnt get pregnant with with the twins, they wouldnt have existed and caroline would never had been their mum

  • @user-nf5qt6yc7p
    @user-nf5qt6yc7p 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    dont mind me i was busy crying

  • @tanyavashisht3910
    @tanyavashisht3910 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Omg this hurts me a lot n i don't know why 😣😣

  • @nikqueetapokotai-rapana891
    @nikqueetapokotai-rapana891 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I just love how Lizzie looks kinda like caroline and josie looks like Jo.
    If u dont think so take a good look at them.
    Just my opinion no hate plz.

    • @nikqueetapokotai-rapana891
      @nikqueetapokotai-rapana891 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Vampire Fan 17 yes she can magic put them in her which means they could mean one of them could of gotten her looks

    • @nikqueetapokotai-rapana891
      @nikqueetapokotai-rapana891 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Josie her self said Lizzie acts like Caroline possibly

    • @nikqueetapokotai-rapana891
      @nikqueetapokotai-rapana891 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      No it's from magic it's not bc of the gene she could have gotten it from caroline

    • @nikqueetapokotai-rapana891
      @nikqueetapokotai-rapana891 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      But lizzie does look like caroline josie her self said she acts more like Caroline

    • @nikqueetapokotai-rapana891
      @nikqueetapokotai-rapana891 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well josie was raised by Caroline but she doesnt act like Caroline

  • @lienlhungdim4297
    @lienlhungdim4297 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I feel bad for both of them 🥺

  • @dylantidmore121
    @dylantidmore121 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The twins deserve to know their birth mom better without feeling like they are cheating on Caroline

  • @manzuraziz5292
    @manzuraziz5292 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love caroline as their mom but i also wish jo got to raise them

  • @Mirai_Inoue
    @Mirai_Inoue 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Lizzie acted mean to Jo but afterwards i love how she apologized for it and took her advice of letting people see her big heart. Some people say Josie considers her their mother along with Caroline but i think Lizzie does too. I Mean SHE LITERALLY STOPPED TAKING HER MEDICATION after feeling bad for how she acted❤❤❤

  • @morganp1560
    @morganp1560 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I really really love this!!

  • @yhurmotha3656
    @yhurmotha3656 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This got me tearing up

  • @ktchimmy5823
    @ktchimmy5823 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Lizzie is like Caroline and Joset is like Jo

    • @Emma-in5dh
      @Emma-in5dh 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      KT LoveBTS Lizzie looks like her aunt

    • @audreymarie9646
      @audreymarie9646 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      No I think it's supposed to be Jo's younger sister Liv since Caroline isn't her biological mother and they aren't related by blood.

  • @lauramalenica9522
    @lauramalenica9522 4 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    Why lizzie didnt wish when she had a geine to jo be alive again

    • @aaliyahb8561
      @aaliyahb8561 4 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      Laura Malenica cause to Lizzie her mother is Caroline to her Jo isn’t her mother Jo didn’t birth her nor did she raise her Caroline is the only mother she truly knows

    • @lauramalenica9522
      @lauramalenica9522 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@aaliyahb8561 I think she just didnt think about that in that moment in that moment she only think to remove hope from her life. I mean to her caroline is her only mother but she still love jo from the day in 6 episode she meet her😊

    • @jade-9948
      @jade-9948 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      She wouldn't know too
      And also it wouldn't go well with the story

    • @idabjernemose
      @idabjernemose 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Laura Malenica as lizzie Said “shes not our mother, shes DNA”.

    • @Lea-xd2zs
      @Lea-xd2zs 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Because she was too focused on hating hope

  • @yonnie_613
    @yonnie_613 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Josie and Lizzie have a mix of both of them but more of Caroline Josie just do witchy stuff like jo and they have Caroline personalities

  • @celiaschnapp6519
    @celiaschnapp6519 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Caroline the best mother ever !

  • @weluvcam7786
    @weluvcam7786 4 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    What if Caroline was dead this whole time.

    • @jade-9948
      @jade-9948 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Technically she is, but truly she us looking for a way to stop the merge.

    • @weluvcam7786
      @weluvcam7786 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I talking she's dead Dead 💀

    • @vincenzo2257
      @vincenzo2257 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      She ain’t

    • @gaiaregnante1801
      @gaiaregnante1801 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Caroline does not appear in legacies because she is looking for a way not to make them melt at 22 and then make one of them die (probably Lizzie because from what I understand in Legacies Josie is stronger) .

  • @lienlhungdim4297
    @lienlhungdim4297 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why they always make me cry

  • @jaebae04
    @jaebae04 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I honestly will never forgive Kai bcs Jo was my fav 😭

  • @driouch76
    @driouch76 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Although jo is their bio mom caroline will always be their real mom

  • @lizziesaltzman5175
    @lizziesaltzman5175 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    She’s not our mother she’s just DNA 😢

  • @jamiebeckum1989
    @jamiebeckum1989 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Lizzie pissed me tf off with how she treated Jo. Like bitch at the end of the day that’s your real mother who was robbed by her brother. If anything you should feel sad you never knew her.

    • @Ash-ou3cu
      @Ash-ou3cu ปีที่แล้ว

      Don't use the word 'real' because it implies that Caroline was a fake mother. The better words are 'biological' or 'birth'. Caroline is their surrogate mother (it was never mentioned by the twins or their parents that they were adopted by Caroline).

  • @aysuncicek4205
    @aysuncicek4205 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I am shokinng

  • @yogabba5845
    @yogabba5845 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why didn’t they asked the necromancer to bring everybody back when they had the chance? Klaus, Hayley, Stefan, josie, Lexi, literally everyone important who died.

    • @ramziahmed674
      @ramziahmed674 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      i think cause of that zombie or creature that was inside of jo and the actors downt wanna return

  • @tahmenaferdous5213
    @tahmenaferdous5213 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    But I also see so much of Caroline in Josie.. why is it only me?

  • @joshuanero3347
    @joshuanero3347 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    ric was so rude he didnt had to say she is not their mom she is lizzies mom

    • @editsbytalhaa
      @editsbytalhaa 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@justinzorro7573 They Have Alaric & Jo's DNA but Caroline Gave Them Birth & Raised them because After Jo's Death , The Gemini Coven implanted the Twins Into Caroline to Save The Gemini Coven..

  • @norageiszler8191
    @norageiszler8191 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Whats that series name? :)

  • @pr1m855
    @pr1m855 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Honestly if Jo gave birth Lizzie would automatically be Brunette xD

    • @pr1m855
      @pr1m855 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bl8892 uh no lizzie took some of Caroline's genes when she was IN HER

    • @pr1m855
      @pr1m855 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@justinzorro7573 ohhhhhh okay I forgot

    • @audreymarie9646
      @audreymarie9646 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      But Jo had people in her family that had blonde hair though.

    • @bl8892
      @bl8892 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think Jo had blondes in her family.

  • @nastasiasilvi3655
    @nastasiasilvi3655 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    This video is perfect

  • @bellaboo8621
    @bellaboo8621 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love the twins

  • @kayeaok
    @kayeaok 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love jo
    but Jo may be the twin's Biological Mother but caroline was the one who gave birth and was the one who raised them. Jo would have be a great mother

    • @bl8892
      @bl8892 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Would they still have Caroline's DNA or no?

    • @bl8892
      @bl8892 ปีที่แล้ว

      Do they still have Caroline's DNA?

  • @ashantabrooks6369
    @ashantabrooks6369 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Like jo died it’s not her fault Caroline was there n they was put into her

  • @joshuanero3347
    @joshuanero3347 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    and acatually family comes in all shapes and sizes

  • @janabanana1887
    @janabanana1887 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The story of theme is sooo sad

  • @anajuliaana6612
    @anajuliaana6612 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Alaric And Klaus> The Saltzman's Fathers

  • @a.triggiedits3252
    @a.triggiedits3252 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Crying😰😰

  • @addisonrae305
    @addisonrae305 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My opininon Caroline is their mother because she carried them in her stomach and she gave birth and she raised them its also jo but caroline is their birth mother.

    • @bl8892
      @bl8892 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Would they still have Caroline's DNA or no?

    • @bl8892
      @bl8892 ปีที่แล้ว

      Do they still have Caroline's DNA?

  • @imaneb1629
    @imaneb1629 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Can someone please tell me what happens to Caroline and if she is alive or not ? I need to know if there's a chance to meet her girl's again in legacies :'/

    • @vincenzo2257
      @vincenzo2257 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Caroline is still alive

    • @timaryajo
      @timaryajo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Lizzie spent the whole summer with her

    • @annesleywilliams7087
      @annesleywilliams7087 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The actress that plays Caroline. Has no interest in returning to legacies. As many of the TVD and TO actors and actress. So right now Caroline is just " somewhere in Europe" trying to find a way to break Gemini curse so the twins don't have to merge. But it honestly looks bad because we don't see Caroline interact with the girls, just hear about the amazing things she does with all of them. It makes her look like an absentee mother.