I was talking about this tonight to after 6 hours of pvp. I can see what there doing with this aura however I do think this blanket change was too much without a Private or Public PTR of bringing in some folks who play the game, than testing this out first without implementing this change. I went from Ret to Reck spec and noticed a jump in dps, I also heard some Holy Paladins saying there sustain is really good right now. I think warriors benefiting from this change is solid, they just need to figure a way out to help them more without this type of overall percentage nerf. Unless they put it down to around 25-30% like you said. Solid video brother, Peaceblade is also a beast 🔥Lock it in 🔒
this is not balancing, its a gameplay style change, it changes wow classic feel to a non classic feel, IT HAS TO GO 100%, balance it another way, drain meta is not the way to go, burst meta was better, it just needed to nerf runes by 15% and not change the core game
Everyone got the same damage reduction, so it's not about balance classes, but burst ik general. If they where balancing classes there would be damage reduced based on class or class nerfs added to the damage reduction.
@@mugetz696 I'm curious if you knew what I meant by that. The -50% damage reduction was the best way to fix the burst, but also balancing classes. I actually think the -50% is great. They should keep it, but maybe reduce it to -35% AND balance things. Biggest issues are MM hunters and Chaos Bolt. The fix? Chaos Bolt nerf by 50% and increase by 100% if Immolate is on the target, or make it a ticking DoT. MM hunters are doing too much burst: make instant Aimed Shots do bleeding damage instead, and Chimera do 100% damage and increase the serpent sting damage by like 300%.
I agree that the -50% helps prevent such bursty gameplay, which is absolutely great!! but I believe the way it was implemented does not balance the classes at all. Healing needed to be nerfed as well, I was unkillable by simply spending my maelstrom stacks on free insta heals (a crit heals me to 100%) It was a good start, but hardly any "balance" I say.
That destro burst was bugged and didn't have the reduction applies, was doing the same crits as this lock yesterday but today chaos bolt is hitting for almost 600 and critting 1.2k. Edit: also poor ret, you had command shout up during that test. ^^
Since I havent seen anyone mention it, you totally called the reduction to the....damage reduction! Its 20 / 30 percent now. and you're a total chad for responding to everyone's questions about what addons they use.
The Glad stance warrior looked nice(Wouldn't call him Prot). Might have to play if Shield Slam is gonna hurt. Now they just need some healing like Second wind or leech.
Its wierd that on the 2nd test they nerfed the casters more than the physical where the physical looked like had the most burst.(except chaos bolt ofc)
Another thing to notice is how the mage is at 50% FUCKING MANA after killing you slower twice as slow as classes that were at 90-75% mana. Thanks for not including frost mage.
good video, at least im happy about blizzard reacting and doing something, 50% might be too much rn but for my warrior it feels more playable. i reach enemies and im not at 30% hp^^
most melee are all killing inside a kidney shot. ranged is taking 10ish seconds (other than that destro 1 shot), which isn't a bad meta either imo. the kill times really aren't that long, I think everyone is just used to globalling each other
Before SoD came out they said that this game was never balanced around 1v1. At least earlier in SoD they still remembered that. And yet they try to balance around 1v1 now. This is absolutely stupid. The thing that is happening as a result of that is that when you meet a ganksquad you dont even have a chance to retaliate against vastly superior numbers. This change might feel ok in structured pvp environments like BGs. But in the open world and at all the places where you meet the usual gankers, like the 20+ man raid of lvl 50s who are somehow allowed to farm lvl 40s in Ashenvale nightmare incursions because why not thats totaly not toxic as fuck, this feels ass. and not the good kind. sweaty, rancid, putrid unwashed nurgle ass.
I understand this vid is just for hype, but it is not even close to reality of. ..especially about warriors.. especially PROT using Reck (30 min CD) .. thanks, I laught xD
honestly - its by far the best pvp sod had to offer yet. finally you can make use of your tookit. it feels great, even if its slightly overtuned especially in bgs - the healthpool buff on top of dmg reduction is a bit too much. getting a somewhat good flag carry druid down seems almost impossible. its similar for any ab nodes. you literally cant take them if your not outnumbering heavily. anyways, it fits very much the necessary downtune of dmg which might make pvp fun again. its just a lil too much in a few occasions. I also got to say- as a boomie - hybrid classes with easy access to heal are way, way too strong and need adjustment. but dont get me wrong, healibg classes are just fine, just the hybrid are stupidly overtuned
range hunters now running around one shotting everybody. not sure how this changes anything. shadow priests were nerf'd completely to zero in p2 week 1.
This video is so bad and innacurate most of these people cant even play their class plus you are a priest wich makes you easier target for melees cause of low armor This nerf is only lasting 4 days so why would u even test this nerf and not test the actual game
for real bro? the only healer that was somewhat capable of surviving a single dps was maybe druid with cds up or a priest with disperspersion... but just for the duration. there was never ever a worse experience as a healer. you couldnt do shit if a even just a few, or even !1! melee was sitting on you. how can you even think thats how it should be?! as a full heal, a single dps should never be able to really threaten you, else pvp isnt balanced in any way. These changes are a step towards the right direction, even if they need some finetuning. And btw, i am dps.
@RickRossYuhM8 Sp has a lot of weakness... hunters can drain him oom, palas and other priests can dispell his dots, as well as shamans. there's like a million things that breaks u out of fear and the class has 0 mobility and with so many fear breakers, 0 CC as well. The only thing that it does is dmg.. DISPELLABLE damage. Calm down.
Yeah I don't think this helps the game at all, I honestly felt like the game was at a really good stage after P3 honestly the only time I have actually enjoyed it. My only real problem is spriests, the dots either need a nerf or they need to cut the silence in half or atleast put it on a 2-3min cd! Priests are destroying the experience it's the only class that no matter the skill class as a mage I have to really earn the win. The thing I can't get over is I have a lock at lvl 48 and a priest at lvl 22 and my priests dots do more damage at 22 then my aff lock at 48? Is it not enough they have pets, the most dps off their dots, an 8 sec silence every 45secs, bubble, dispel and self heals? Literally everything in the game but with more damage? Ok in a straight 1v1 with a priest both starting with all cd's then mage verse priest can be good but if in a bg scenario or world pvp they force a block out of you on silence, to kill them you need both blocks and your still melting trying to heal through it and your just a free target for others. I feel like playing against other classes is fun on all my characters until I see a priest. I will run at pvp any chance I get but when it comes to priests I don't even bother
Better name for this video '''I asked noobs to hit me outside of org""
Hahah I was thinking the same thing
Chaos bolt - casts 3x faster than Pyroblast and does 4x the damage. The devs of SOD are basically monkeys.
Pyro can be instant, Chaos cant
It doesn’t seem like most of them know their rotation to even do dmg.
They’re used to one shots not actually knowing their class.
Hozi that enhance shaman doesn't even know what he's doin haha
And what different would Hozi do, except prepare totems at start?
@@dkaarvand9913 something he must do wrong cuz i with 5.5k hp in bg dies in under 1 second
@@juuu7801 you sound like all of the people from my incursion groups.
@@juuu7801 A dual-wielding shaman cannot one-shot you. You're excaggarating. Paladins can actually one-shot you
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I was talking about this tonight to after 6 hours of pvp. I can see what there doing with this aura however I do think this blanket change was too much without a Private or Public PTR of bringing in some folks who play the game, than testing this out first without implementing this change. I went from Ret to Reck spec and noticed a jump in dps, I also heard some Holy Paladins saying there sustain is really good right now. I think warriors benefiting from this change is solid, they just need to figure a way out to help them more without this type of overall percentage nerf. Unless they put it down to around 25-30% like you said.
Solid video brother, Peaceblade is also a beast 🔥Lock it in 🔒
That game was rough last night Mr jello😂 pally still feels sadge
It's not about -50%... it's about balancing the classes.
this is not balancing, its a gameplay style change, it changes wow classic feel to a non classic feel, IT HAS TO GO 100%, balance it another way, drain meta is not the way to go, burst meta was better, it just needed to nerf runes by 15% and not change the core game
Everyone got the same damage reduction, so it's not about balance classes, but burst ik general. If they where balancing classes there would be damage reduced based on class or class nerfs added to the damage reduction.
@@mugetz696 I'm curious if you knew what I meant by that. The -50% damage reduction was the best way to fix the burst, but also balancing classes. I actually think the -50% is great. They should keep it, but maybe reduce it to -35% AND balance things. Biggest issues are MM hunters and Chaos Bolt. The fix? Chaos Bolt nerf by 50% and increase by 100% if Immolate is on the target, or make it a ticking DoT. MM hunters are doing too much burst: make instant Aimed Shots do bleeding damage instead, and Chimera do 100% damage and increase the serpent sting damage by like 300%.
I agree that the -50% helps prevent such bursty gameplay, which is absolutely great!! but I believe the way it was implemented does not balance the classes at all. Healing needed to be nerfed as well, I was unkillable by simply spending my maelstrom stacks on free insta heals (a crit heals me to 100%)
It was a good start, but hardly any "balance" I say.
@@chrish4418 yea well shamans still 1 shots a whole team in 0.1 sec - good one!!
That destro burst was bugged and didn't have the reduction applies, was doing the same crits as this lock yesterday but today chaos bolt is hitting for almost 600 and critting 1.2k.
Edit: also poor ret, you had command shout up during that test. ^^
some runes bypass the 50 % dmg reduction for some reason its the same from deadly brew the deadly poisons dot deal 100 % of the dmg
It would have been funny if chaos bolt was not nerfed because it has this resistance avoidance thing
yeah i was like this is pre nerf damage lol
Since I havent seen anyone mention it, you totally called the reduction to the....damage reduction! Its 20 / 30 percent now.
and you're a total chad for responding to everyone's questions about what addons they use.
The Glad stance warrior looked nice(Wouldn't call him Prot). Might have to play if Shield Slam is gonna hurt. Now they just need some healing like Second wind or leech.
He popped reck which is stupid for a test like this
Its wierd that on the 2nd test they nerfed the casters more than the physical where the physical looked like had the most burst.(except chaos bolt ofc)
Another thing to notice is how the mage is at 50% FUCKING MANA after killing you slower twice as slow as classes that were at 90-75% mana.
Thanks for not including frost mage.
He left out frost mage to keep the vid under 10 minutes kekw
@@josephbetle6850 that made me actually lol, i play a mage too
@@josephbetle6850 lmao
Gonna hurt the cannon classes like a ele the most but the off side of that is we just run way of earth now with riptide and you never can kill us lol
Gj bro, what addon show enemy spell casting at nameplate ?
wago.io/Xb146knOg/11
Commenting this so I can find it later. I love this wa😊
That timer feels way incorrect since it does not count cast time of casters.
The hood agrees. 50% is terrible man.
LMAO
Re rolling spriest or lock looks fun !!
Now do a video against plater to see the dmg burst of melee, cause this is so biased using clother as an example without shadow form and inner fire.
great video idea
Ya casters got hurt bad with the 50% nerf
hey hozi what is the addon you are using for your raid frames? looks CLEAN af
Riizui (Wotlk version install properly)
Great video man ty
UR GONNA GET ME NERFED I DIDNT EVEN OPEN WITH AMBUSH I USED MY CHEAP SHOT
Lmao
What is the name of the addon that changes the nameplate?
Riizui (Wotlk version )
Yo whats the addon/weakaura that shows what the enemy ability is used?
wago.io/Xb146knOg/11
good video, at least im happy about blizzard reacting and doing something, 50% might be too much rn but for my warrior it feels more playable. i reach enemies and im not at 30% hp^^
Nice testing.
That boomkin doesn't know the rotation for damage output sadly. Not a good metric for them.
ret is nerfed so bad i almost jumped out of my window. they were really busted before nerf but it might be the worst class right now
That feral druid blew all DPs cd on that, not a normal run , redo that one. IN a normal fight he would have had to shift at least 2 or 3 times or more
destro lock no way was 50% nerf i cant get a chaosbolt to hit for more than 1.4k max avg is more like 1.2 and that was 2.5k
most melee are all killing inside a kidney shot.
ranged is taking 10ish seconds (other than that destro 1 shot), which isn't a bad meta either imo. the kill times really aren't that long, I think everyone is just used to globalling each other
I think they nerfed boomy more, seems like 50% dmg reduction and they took more dmg from them. You can clearly tell they lack hard lol
this new nerf sucks. it exchanged bad for worse
Before SoD came out they said that this game was never balanced around 1v1. At least earlier in SoD they still remembered that. And yet they try to balance around 1v1 now. This is absolutely stupid. The thing that is happening as a result of that is that when you meet a ganksquad you dont even have a chance to retaliate against vastly superior numbers. This change might feel ok in structured pvp environments like BGs. But in the open world and at all the places where you meet the usual gankers, like the 20+ man raid of lvl 50s who are somehow allowed to farm lvl 40s in Ashenvale nightmare incursions because why not thats totaly not toxic as fuck, this feels ass. and not the good kind. sweaty, rancid, putrid unwashed nurgle ass.
imagine where u got a healer behind that people all brawling and no one are able to kill until healer gets oom ;) dont remind anything?
simply nerf healing aswell until the numbers match up. but this is blizzard. they will ofc mess it up like they always do.
So far my experience with the pvp nerf, has made the pvp even better
it's a terrible change, glad it's only a trial.
@@idkidgaf same with the terrible honor system, back to old system after trial.
That fire mage was total garbage
Holy fuck the damage nerf was needed. now back to original with class buffs
so bad
Valeu!
Thanks 🖤
What is the best wow classic ?
Season of discovery has a lot to offer!
Yeh no need to balance if you pplay on pve server like me!
that enhancement shammy is the worst kind of person.
I understand this vid is just for hype, but it is not even close to reality of. ..especially about warriors.. especially PROT using Reck (30 min CD) .. thanks, I laught xD
Also prot started with full rage and mrp. And its horde side with op racials. Alliance warriors suck ass with their useless perception.
Destro locks 0.5 seconds 😂
honestly - its by far the best pvp sod had to offer yet. finally you can make use of your tookit. it feels great, even if its slightly overtuned especially in bgs - the healthpool buff on top of dmg reduction is a bit too much. getting a somewhat good flag carry druid down seems almost impossible. its similar for any ab nodes. you literally cant take them if your not outnumbering heavily. anyways, it fits very much the necessary downtune of dmg which might make pvp fun again. its just a lil too much in a few occasions. I also got to say- as a boomie - hybrid classes with easy access to heal are way, way too strong and need adjustment. but dont get me wrong, healibg classes are just fine, just the hybrid are stupidly overtuned
yeah you dont actually play pvp nobody can like this because WSG which is 50% of bgs is now unplayable lol. this is a joke
Seems like a lazy fix
Ppc.
i heard is only in bgs?
Out in the world as well
What is the name of the addon that shows what spell your opponent has active and the remaining cd on it
Bigdebuffs
Hope its not gonna stay like this and this was just blizzard test.. otherwise wont play sod 😅
range hunters now running around one shotting everybody. not sure how this changes anything.
shadow priests were nerf'd completely to zero in p2 week 1.
bruh, what are you talking about? Spriests are one of the strongest pvp classes.
the enhance and ele shams were awful
the F you talking about? 50% is fine, you just died in roughly 5s against several melee specs. are you crazy?
Blizzar stupid balance the classes needed only
sad sad ret pally wth
How can people be good with a meta where you 400crit on a 8k hp???? This is the worst nerf ever, if this shit stay, SOD pvp is ruined
This video is so bad and innacurate most of these people cant even play their class plus you are a priest wich makes you easier target for melees cause of low armor
This nerf is only lasting 4 days so why would u even test this nerf and not test the actual game
I quit the game after this nerf. Nerf damage but the heal is not nerf??? Bye SOD!!
Lmfao that was the whole point. Healers couldn't keep up.
Good riddance smoothy
No you didnt quit lol
It's only for 4days and it's getting tuned back to what it was 😂 people only read what they want to read the full details kids
for real bro? the only healer that was somewhat capable of surviving a single dps was maybe druid with cds up or a priest with disperspersion... but just for the duration. there was never ever a worse experience as a healer. you couldnt do shit if a even just a few, or even !1! melee was sitting on you. how can you even think thats how it should be?! as a full heal, a single dps should never be able to really threaten you, else pvp isnt balanced in any way. These changes are a step towards the right direction, even if they need some finetuning. And btw, i am dps.
Lol@@Zzarth
that mele hunter is garbage
Einfach mega schlecht dat wars jetzt mit wow sod
Nerf Prot warrior
Man's was using recklessness, doesn't count lol
Technically it's Glad stance and seems like the damage is fine. They should be 2 tapping people with Shield Slam.
unhealable dmg=braindead gameplay. It's supposed to be an mmo, not a fps
nerf shadowpriest
the only thing that needs nerfs right now is Druid FCS and their frenzied regen rune
Spriest aint op lol ur stuck in the swd prenerf past. Just dispel dots and spriest does 0 dmg lul
@RickRossYuhM8 rogues got big chance, ferals, shammy, ret with dispels bubble, aff locks, melee hunter bm mm as well. I mean u can burst a spriest
@RickRossYuhM8 Sp has a lot of weakness... hunters can drain him oom, palas and other priests can dispell his dots, as well as shamans.
there's like a million things that breaks u out of fear and the class has 0 mobility and with so many fear breakers, 0 CC as well.
The only thing that it does is dmg.. DISPELLABLE damage.
Calm down.
@RickRossYuhM8 Spectacular arguement!!!
Yeah I don't think this helps the game at all, I honestly felt like the game was at a really good stage after P3 honestly the only time I have actually enjoyed it. My only real problem is spriests, the dots either need a nerf or they need to cut the silence in half or atleast put it on a 2-3min cd! Priests are destroying the experience it's the only class that no matter the skill class as a mage I have to really earn the win. The thing I can't get over is I have a lock at lvl 48 and a priest at lvl 22 and my priests dots do more damage at 22 then my aff lock at 48? Is it not enough they have pets, the most dps off their dots, an 8 sec silence every 45secs, bubble, dispel and self heals? Literally everything in the game but with more damage? Ok in a straight 1v1 with a priest both starting with all cd's then mage verse priest can be good but if in a bg scenario or world pvp they force a block out of you on silence, to kill them you need both blocks and your still melting trying to heal through it and your just a free target for others. I feel like playing against other classes is fun on all my characters until I see a priest. I will run at pvp any chance I get but when it comes to priests I don't even bother