The Bank of Canada Moves Closer to a Central Bank Digital Currency | The Loonie Hour Episode 83

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  • The city of Toronto approves mass rezoning for residential development. There's an inventory shortage not just in Canadian housing markets but around the world right now. CPI inflation comes in as expected. Are deposit runs an issue in Canada? The Bank of Canada asks Canadians to weigh in on a central bank digital currency.
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  • @samspade1841
    @samspade1841 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Top notch show guys👍 Find my self listening regularly. Rich, loving your input. I did my survey regarding the digital currency. Can’t believe how biased the questions were. I said absolutely not and that I don’t trust the government or central bank. I’m sure they will ignore our views and continue forward with distortions of our concerns. The average person is asleep. Appreciate you guys helping to make people aware. I guess you will be a C11 target now.

    • @diasx12
      @diasx12 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thank you kindly Sam.

  • @stuomsen5094
    @stuomsen5094 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Rich is right on the mark about digital currency... listen to what he is saying!

  • @nikkian9254
    @nikkian9254 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Steve: "theres only been 400 total first time home buyers"
    Rich: "400,000?"
    Steve: "no 400 people" lol

  • @ConnieWalshcan
    @ConnieWalshcan ปีที่แล้ว +15

    cbdc scares me as well. It will make certain purchases wrong and we will be preventing from buying them

    • @philshyu5248
      @philshyu5248 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Buy precious metals while you’re still allowed to!!!

    • @ConnieWalshcan
      @ConnieWalshcan ปีที่แล้ว

      @@philshyu5248 So true

  • @evadeanu1
    @evadeanu1 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Great show guys. Learned a few (scary) new things again. Keep it up!

  • @dutchgirl7603
    @dutchgirl7603 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thanks for explaining the difference between GIC's and Money Markets, greatly appreciated ... keep up the excellent work! I look forward to your show every week.

  • @ermon20
    @ermon20 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I hate or dislike CBDC as well. Glad most of the cons of CBDC were discussed here. 🎯

  • @ThePettieLife
    @ThePettieLife ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you Rich!! Refreshing to hear more people speak out about the brutal potentials of CBDCs. I always say that even if you're perfectly happy with the current Government and have "nothing to hide", there will likely be someone in power one day that you don't like that could use this authoritarian power against you. It is always wise to limit Government power over the people and keep them in check. They're here to serve and guide, not rule!

  • @matthewodette1406
    @matthewodette1406 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    CBDC is the line in the sand. I would rather live in the woods and barter.

  • @kyIeleblanc
    @kyIeleblanc ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I just wanted to say excellent show as always guys. This episode of The Loonie Hour might be the best one yet!
    Opt out of the CBDC dystopian future with Bitcoin.
    Bitcoin isn't about making money, it's about replacing money.
    Fix the money, fix the world.

  • @richardpetts9661
    @richardpetts9661 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As always, thanks to you guys. Never a dull moment, and a little levity goes a long way. Cheers, Richard

  • @Martmi29
    @Martmi29 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I just realized Rich looks like that guy from the movie "Honey we shrunk ourselves".

  • @ryancarr808
    @ryancarr808 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Canadians Let's Not Let This Happen!!!

  • @DiabeticDawg
    @DiabeticDawg ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Gotta love Rich. The rest of the gang is lovable too 😂🎉

  • @skyes2261
    @skyes2261 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yes ! I’m glad you went here .. Canadians need to wake up !

  • @handaferguson
    @handaferguson ปีที่แล้ว

    Great Job!!! Thank You... :-)

  • @CoconutPatel
    @CoconutPatel ปีที่แล้ว +14

    F*** digital currency

    • @donm2067
      @donm2067 ปีที่แล้ว

      We can be friends

  • @stevecatpatrick8056
    @stevecatpatrick8056 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The FTHB incentive program works great in the prairies, we've used it as well as many of our friends. If they removed the cap it would be taken up in the more expensive markets too.

    • @saretsky
      @saretsky  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This is true

  • @joelee095
    @joelee095 ปีที่แล้ว

    The breakdown that rich gave of cbdc is amazing and bang on

  • @hill2750
    @hill2750 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is there a way to measure the political cost of growth, and ways to protect against the risks there in?

  • @mikepepper8395
    @mikepepper8395 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Central banks want to be able to create money to stimulate the economy without inflating stocks and housing. It would also allow them to slow the economy in the same way. Theoretically reducing boom and bust cycles. It only comes with the low low cost of your freedom.

    • @ryancarr808
      @ryancarr808 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yep, the low low cost of freedom. Well said my guy. If there is any chance we can stop this aggress foul on our human rights, we must. I'll take time off work and picket the heck out of this nonsense. #BITCOIN

    • @donm2067
      @donm2067 ปีที่แล้ว

      Bitcoin is the beta test to CBDC, get yours PM

  • @sarahdee3546
    @sarahdee3546 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    What can we do to stand against digital currency in Canada?

    • @JohnSmith-qj7hd
      @JohnSmith-qj7hd ปีที่แล้ว

      Vote

    • @clotshotthot5750
      @clotshotthot5750 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@JohnSmith-qj7hdhaha, thanks for the laugh

    • @JohnSmith-qj7hd
      @JohnSmith-qj7hd ปีที่แล้ว

      @@clotshotthot5750 yeah… it’s why I devote a small portion of my savings to precious metals. Just incase

  • @philipsdefreville6138
    @philipsdefreville6138 ปีที่แล้ว

    If you look at what UK is proposing, CBDCs won't pay interest. Also they are suggesting "transaction fees", something I have not seen raised before.

  • @JohnSmith-qj7hd
    @JohnSmith-qj7hd ปีที่แล้ว

    How does one increase density on that level. I know Mississauga and pickering have been upgrading sewers and such. Which has taken close to a decade.
    It’s not just cars, parking, roads, sewers, hydro, fresh water, sewage, schools, parks, Rec centers, public transport. Good idea but this is infinitely hard to pull off without drastically decreasing quality of life for people that live in those cities.
    It’s much easier to build out where u don’t have to rip out and redesign existing infrastructure.

  • @adrianfranco1028
    @adrianfranco1028 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So wouldn't all government spending now be tracked through the cbdc? And to the Penney wow.
    😊

    • @ryancarr808
      @ryancarr808 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It could be tracked better with Bitcoin

  • @AR-pr6mt
    @AR-pr6mt ปีที่แล้ว

    T-Bills are exempt from (USA) state and local taxes, but subject to Federal...correct me if I am wrong, I am not from the USA

    • @saretsky
      @saretsky  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sounds like you’re right

  • @heatherbarclay3536
    @heatherbarclay3536 ปีที่แล้ว

    The demand measures have all been very half-hearted and ineffective--by design. Mass rezoning is not the cure-all when speculators are allowed to buy up the land. Look how many new units have been built in Vancouver in the last decade. It has done nothing for affordability. Realtors, speculators and developers love the rezoning of course. Steve talked about the math. They won't build if they can't make a profit, so why should we expect a mass supply coming to us? Will that supply be affordable? We need mass NON-PROFIT housing badly. Also, NZ is still horribly unaffordable.

  • @James-vj5hz
    @James-vj5hz ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Damn I hope Halifax gets the Schooners. I'll fly out and buy Keith a drink.

  • @roseoverdose6451
    @roseoverdose6451 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    for the guys and the algorithm

  • @steveshideler1333
    @steveshideler1333 ปีที่แล้ว

    Empty nest can also become keeping the space so grand kids can come visit etc. need those rooms for the holidays.

  • @duncanmacdonald9266
    @duncanmacdonald9266 ปีที่แล้ว

    Its the rates keeping people in place, I pondered buying a different place a couple months ago but the rates are double what my current rate is.
    It just didn't make sense for me.
    I've got my rate for 3 more years so I'll hang tight and see if rates go down like the bond market is predicting.

  • @ctcamara
    @ctcamara ปีที่แล้ว

    I bought my house with fthb program in Manitoba and all my friends did. It was good for places where the housing market is not crazy expensive.

  • @CANWESTTECH
    @CANWESTTECH ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The math does not work. Money velocity? Thanks for the great discussions. At least trying to fore-warn ordinary people

  • @darrendowns
    @darrendowns ปีที่แล้ว

    Approx Minute 39 - the question is whether the interest income earned on a T-Bill in the US would be deductible for US tax purposes - probably a senior moment for the people on the video but . . . this is income . . not expense . . income would be taxable . . this is not a deduction this is an income . straight income.

  • @ivanandreevich8568
    @ivanandreevich8568 ปีที่แล้ว

    Houston has no zoning laws city wide. Only private ones in developments. One of the most affordable rapidly growing cities around.

  • @mogulrider
    @mogulrider ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Interested that you all are calling a bottom. The economic fundamentals of our economies are frankly horrific. Profits are crashing, banks are closing, unemployment is now rising, 45% of Cdns with variables say they can last 6-8 months before they are toast. Yet rah rah rasputins cheer Hooray! At some point, like all times before, Irrationality will meet economic fundamentals. It's just time that confuses people.

    • @donm2067
      @donm2067 ปีที่แล้ว

      They will just change the rules, just like before.

    • @mogulrider
      @mogulrider ปีที่แล้ว

      @@donm2067 Damage is damage, You can't legislate the damage the FED is doing. You can't legislate a Negative M2 and Aggregates Money supply. These are the outcome of the legislative process. It's the outcome they didn't intend but have. That M1+ and M1++ negative chart is a deadly thing. It hasn't happened in modern times. It takes 6 months or so to show up. That is what people don't see. It's the fall of this year when it will show up in the news

    • @donm2067
      @donm2067 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@mogulrider I hope you're right. It's like gravity doesn't exist these days

    • @mogulrider
      @mogulrider ปีที่แล้ว

      @@donm2067 never hope, play the game you have in front of you. There are only logical probabilities. people can be stupid for a long time. Its why I have always said 2025-2026. Crashes are a process. Bear markets eat people on both sides. Rate of change matters and the grind kills all if you don't go to other areas. check back in from time to time. I check in to see what range of thinking is. everybody is pumped again. classic rip your face off bounce with a cascading crashing economic system. its a recession people in this space forget what they are because mommy Fed hasn't let debt die. eventually they won't stop it. its the business cycle, nothing more

    • @mogulrider
      @mogulrider ปีที่แล้ว

      @@donm2067 Go look at any chart of any commodity. The gravity always starts there. commodities have crashed due demand destruction. China won't save the world this time. its at war with the West. It then shows up in business closures, cmbs @ mbs defaults, banks, etc
      remember that housing peaked in late 2006, it didn't show up in chaos until 2008. its just time that is the variable.

  • @Chris-xc1tm
    @Chris-xc1tm ปีที่แล้ว

    The bank can recollateralize your GIC multiple times and often does on the London exchanges.

  • @robertclayton2925
    @robertclayton2925 ปีที่แล้ว

    Where folks who have paid off the mortgage with the bank. They should no longer pay property tax. That's when the finance Minister could do some actual accounting.

  • @dirtlump
    @dirtlump ปีที่แล้ว +2

    A dissenting opinion.... two beans worth....
    I believe a central Bank such as the BoC floating the prospect of a digital currency for Canadians will exacerbate a mass revolt..... not merely on the 'big brother' ramifications to personal financial privacy... but centrally highlighting the intrusive nature to personal freedoms as a whole entrenched now so front and center in Canadians minds.
    If the connotations to active participation in quality of life/rights of the Jab mandates were offensive to some ?
    I don't believe we've seen anything yet when it comes to the resistance a BoC digital currency would ignite .... up to and including western separation from confederation.
    It's a complete NON-starter in Western Canada, Full Stop !

    • @diasx12
      @diasx12 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for your dissenting opinion, it is always welcome on the Loonie Hour!

  • @johnjeoffreym
    @johnjeoffreym ปีที่แล้ว

    Good one guys

  • @ConnieWalshcan
    @ConnieWalshcan ปีที่แล้ว

    What about the bbbyq that shows more shares in cede in co than has been issued. That is a short selling fraud tell.

  • @InterestbearingCBDC
    @InterestbearingCBDC ปีที่แล้ว

    29:58 you go to a peer to peer lending platform instead of a commercial bank for your loan.

  • @bojilek5633
    @bojilek5633 ปีที่แล้ว

    pls elaborate on cbdcs

  • @amosashurst7463
    @amosashurst7463 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am skeptical that ending SFD zoning will add much supply - even in the long run. Maybe if the units can be stratified and sold separately but otherwise highest and best isn’t a slam dunk for higher density due to marginal cost being around the same as marginal benefit (ie, profit incentive to increase density may not be enough).
    (Adding a suite to one of my rental properties likely wouldn’t make sense due low rental return compared to cost of adding the suite)

    • @baseline6786
      @baseline6786 ปีที่แล้ว

      Values will rise and some rental supply will come.

    • @amosashurst7463
      @amosashurst7463 ปีที่แล้ว

      Certainly not an expert so you could be right
      (Probably for certain locations higher density makes sense if it’s new construction)

  • @somejohndoe3004
    @somejohndoe3004 ปีที่แล้ว

    Gov. Ron DeSantis (R-FL) signed legislation to ban a central bank digital currency in his state.

  • @Chris-xc1tm
    @Chris-xc1tm ปีที่แล้ว

    Imagine getting a mortgage from CMHC like the old days. Tax revenue problems would be over with mortgage interest becoming GoC revenue.

  • @bat2275
    @bat2275 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Ask a trucker if he wants a central bank digital currency😂

  • @James-vj5hz
    @James-vj5hz ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great call by the Toronto City council. Zoning deregulation is needed across the country. Land value tax is the next thing that's needed to prevent municipal bankruptcies in the long run.

  • @ediroma1999
    @ediroma1999 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Not sure why three of you are so surprised about how CBDC will work. It was all obvious when the pandemic has started

  • @goldgoat22
    @goldgoat22 ปีที่แล้ว

    WHY WON'T ANYONE CARE ABOUT WHERE I'M GOING TO PARK!? I DON'T EVEN LIVE IN THESE NEIGHBOURHOODS!

  • @ediddysmith2500
    @ediddysmith2500 ปีที่แล้ว

    If central banks puts in CBDC, we know the banks work for WEF ,because Canadians said no to CBDC in the survey.

  • @suboyi
    @suboyi ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Rich always hating on the carbon tax

    • @diasx12
      @diasx12 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, it is true. I am not too fond of regressive taxes.

  • @billrussell1933
    @billrussell1933 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Vancouver looking beautiful

    • @eddiespagetti8395
      @eddiespagetti8395 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Beautiful? It's filthy. Nice mountains Yes. Vancouver itself is china really. India to the south ( Surrey ,). Vancouver is not beautiful in any way. You must like concrete and hirise buildings . That's all vancover is. The beautiful areas are OUTSIDE of Vancouver, north van is ok. Vancouver is overrated. China owns 70% of it. Surrounding areas are beautiful. BC is beautiful , vancover Not so beautiful.

    • @billrussell1933
      @billrussell1933 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@eddiespagetti8395 I love concrete buildings you're right! But Vancouver doesn't have enough. I was speaking about the weather more than anything. Toronto is way better for the concrete jungle!

    • @eddiespagetti8395
      @eddiespagetti8395 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@billrussell1933 rain 9 months a year and 3 months of half ass sunshine. Vancouver weather sucks

    • @billrussell1933
      @billrussell1933 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@eddiespagetti8395summertime Vancouver gets more sunshine than Toronto. But yeah rain sucks for 9 months

    • @eddiespagetti8395
      @eddiespagetti8395 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@billrussell1933 it's great for rain lovers and dark rain days folks. July and August and September are the best months in lower mainland here. Less rainfall and lots sun. We all got used to the rain here. After 50 years or so you get used to it.

  • @nikdujmovic5005
    @nikdujmovic5005 ปีที่แล้ว

    The CBDC is not going to be on a public distributed ledger, it won’t be a true blockchain bcz the governments will be able to choose who uses the cbdc. Some companies have private ledger tech they are offering such as Ripple but the cbdc will be permissioned and closed tech. If you don’t fit the governments idea of a model citizen, you can be cut off. It’s something we need to push back on. The positive thing is that lots of crypto projects are open and permissionless so the government will never win in the end.

  • @DougLogan-e7q
    @DougLogan-e7q ปีที่แล้ว

    The bank of canada needs new leadership

  • @James-vj5hz
    @James-vj5hz ปีที่แล้ว

    I would strip cars from inflation stats, because they're definitely luxury spending.

    • @donm2067
      @donm2067 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ah yes, the thing that takes me to work is a luxury

    • @James-vj5hz
      @James-vj5hz ปีที่แล้ว

      @@donm2067 If you're financing a car, it's discretionary spending. There's no shame in buying what you can afford. You can also take the train if that's an option.

    • @donm2067
      @donm2067 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@James-vj5hz oh believe I buy what I can afford, it's just used cars are freaking expensive

  • @GK-wn6ur
    @GK-wn6ur ปีที่แล้ว

    So no more single family homes.... so no thought about what this says about the decline in the Canadian standard of living this indicates. Let's make Vancouver the new Jakarta!

  • @grigorkyokuto7546
    @grigorkyokuto7546 ปีที่แล้ว

    good job just take another percentage off the birthrates

  • @somejohndoe3004
    @somejohndoe3004 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Canadians are going to love CBDCs and will see nothing wrong with them. They will find them more secure because the gvt will say so.

    • @JohnSmith-qj7hd
      @JohnSmith-qj7hd ปีที่แล้ว

      All hail the entity that says it knows what’s best for me and my family wether I wanted it or not.

  • @fillmorehillmore8239
    @fillmorehillmore8239 ปีที่แล้ว

    Better learn to barter and trade like the criminals do. Use CBDC to get approved goods and then unload them for what you want. Even better, create what others want and get a premium on the tyrannical banned items. Imagine trading gasoline as if its heroin...what a country.

  • @dman9416
    @dman9416 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your about to see the real bottom in the fall Steve.

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  • @monsieurfortuna9952
    @monsieurfortuna9952 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am waiting for UBI, it will help me so much!!! universal basic income is amazing thing!!!

  • @JesseKerrFishing
    @JesseKerrFishing ปีที่แล้ว +1

    🥇

  • @monsieurfortuna9952
    @monsieurfortuna9952 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Rich is very handsome

    • @AR-pr6mt
      @AR-pr6mt ปีที่แล้ว +1

      His personality is Handsomer :P

    • @monsieurfortuna9952
      @monsieurfortuna9952 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@AR-pr6mt He is very good looking and has a very nice personality for sure

  • @quixomega
    @quixomega ปีที่แล้ว

    Etobicoke and Scarborough land just become more valuable.

    • @tedhext1756
      @tedhext1756 ปีที่แล้ว

      The value of the land stays the same. Fiat currency value drops. Humans like Doug Ford can destroy the value with buildings and roads. We're taught everything backwards.

  • @donm2067
    @donm2067 ปีที่แล้ว

    Guess alot of people never heard Corb Lund "coming down the mountain".

  • @michael2275
    @michael2275 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    BTC >>> CBDC

  • @dangrather1280
    @dangrather1280 ปีที่แล้ว

    Government control.

  • @tomaga5856
    @tomaga5856 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cbdc will allow for communist rationing like we had in eastern europe post ww2. Good luck

  • @Daniel-lm6yf
    @Daniel-lm6yf ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm a geek?

  • @RevsALot
    @RevsALot ปีที่แล้ว

    Chinada

  • @GearsDemon
    @GearsDemon ปีที่แล้ว +1

    11:00 they think the prices will just keep going up. Even if they upgrade/upsize, they hold onto the old property as a rental or even keep it vacant. If you keep rates elevated or raise them more + continue to make real estate investment less appealing (with policy changes) people will sell.