My top 3 picks for SMP! - Drakon @ 2.5 nose down (Road and Gravel) - Blaster @ 1.0 nose down (Gravel, Road, maybe MTB) - F30 @ 0.0 dead level (MTB and Gravel)
Nice video, I’ve been a fan of SMP for awhile now. Because of narrow sit bones I have found that the Composit & Evolution work well. If I’m correct the only difference between the two is one is lightly padded (Evolution), and the Composit is not. I use them on both my modern road bikes and my vintage road bikes.
Thank you! 🙏 The evolution is part of a 3 saddle family - glider, evolution, stratos (glider is widest and so on) The composite closest member would be the blaster which is padded. It’s all a little confusing and the names don’t make much sense. But maybe that’s something we learn to love :)
Interesting. I tend to go with the wider models: dynamic, lite 209, pro and plus on bigger riders. Good success with avant on female riders. I actually use the extra on my mtb and gravel so the synthetic material can withstand the mud and water
very interesting! I have not used the avant for any females but will keep that in mind... Pro and plus i've used only a few times. For the most part i've followed Steve Hogg's SMP guide years ago and shot off from that
thanks for taking the time to produce this video.I've been using SMP Dynamic for 8 years now.In that time I've changed 2 saddles. In the last 6 months I started to feel uncomfortable in the saddle. The discomfort is centered on the back of the saddle where the pelvic bones meet. I assumed it was time to change the saddle. I ordered a new one. But the discomfort remained the same. big disappointment. I tried to change the tilt. I did many tests. Nothing. I am starting to think my body has changed.I am 50 years old, slim body type and extremely flexible.My bone distance is 130cm.I would like you to tell me the ideal degrees of dynamic for a road bike.Also which other SMP model do you recommend? .Thank you in advance for your time.Greetings from Greece!
I would agree that over time the body can change and may require a saddle change. I would recommend the SMP blaster. This is less “dip” and generally tends to be a very good alternative to riders who aren’t getting along the the Dynamic anymore For the Blaster I recommend trying a range between 0.0 and 1.5 nose down. Also for reference - the range for the dynamic is around 0.0 - 4.0 nose down. So if you want to make one more effort you could explore that more. Just make sure bike is level across axels when measuring saddle angle - and use a digital level so you know for sure what angles you have tried. I have seen a a few tenths of a degree make all the difference. Good luck and let me know how it goes - my email is tim@greshfit.com - that would be the best place to contact me if you’d like to keep in touch.
That would be a fair place to start - they are very identical in shape - the composite is basically a pad-less Nymber. And the Nymber is simply a wider blaster Please like, subscribe, and share 🙏
I like many aspects of SMP but I find they transmit more road shock than other saddles. The rails attach directly under the sit bones, rather than behind as on most saddles. The shell is thick and unyielding under the sit bones, so any “give” in the saddle needs to come from the padding only. That eliminates the hammock effect that most saddles have. For me, Selle SMPs feel great in the studio and on the trainer, but on long rides they beat me up too much.
Today I decided the Dynamic was not for me. I rode last summer with it and 400 km this year on my road bike but it does not work. I tried many angles and setback but I always end up with frontal perineal pressure and a feeling I am sliding forward. I might try the Nymber or the Drakon, these have a less pronounce dip. What's your take on the Dynamic? Thanks!
@@greshfit Thanks for the reply, apart from the very steep slope at the back of the saddle I think the problem is also the very narrow side around the channel. The Nymber look a lot wider.
Yeah the nymber is wider in that area. The blaster is as well. The blaster is the same shape as Nymber but a little bit more narrow. Can't go wrong either way. I'd say go nymber if you are a bigger/heavier rider
@@greshfit Awesome thank you. I keep reading that you should add 20mm to your sit bone measurement to find your appropriate saddle width. Is this actually a thing? Because I cannot find any 120mm wide saddles.
I really don’t go by sit bone measurement… it’s not where you sit on the saddle - you sit more on the IPR bones - that’s why finding the right saddle can be tough. In a perfect world demo saddle programs would be the norm in bike shops. But without that your best bet is to order it and try it and see if you can return it More info on all this - Steve Hogg does a great job explains - google “all about SMPs” and read his blog post
A good app for saddle tilt is Clinometer. You can set it to zero on a uneven floor so no need to get your bike level.
Excellent video and good comparison on what saddle for what type of riding, Ive been wondering about that. - I have the F30 and love it
Glad it was helpful!
Nice video, I’ve been a fan of SMP for awhile now. Because of narrow sit bones I have found that the Composit & Evolution work well. If I’m correct the only difference between the two is one is lightly padded (Evolution), and the Composit is not. I use them on both my modern road bikes and my vintage road bikes.
Thank you! 🙏
The evolution is part of a 3 saddle family - glider, evolution, stratos (glider is widest and so on)
The composite closest member would be the blaster which is padded.
It’s all a little confusing and the names don’t make much sense. But maybe that’s something we learn to love :)
Interesting. I tend to go with the wider models: dynamic, lite 209, pro and plus on bigger riders. Good success with avant on female riders. I actually use the extra on my mtb and gravel so the synthetic material can withstand the mud and water
very interesting! I have not used the avant for any females but will keep that in mind... Pro and plus i've used only a few times. For the most part i've followed Steve Hogg's SMP guide years ago and shot off from that
thanks for taking the time to produce this video.I've been using SMP Dynamic for 8 years now.In that time I've changed 2 saddles. In the last 6 months I started to feel uncomfortable in the saddle. The discomfort is centered on the back of the saddle where the pelvic bones meet. I assumed it was time to change the saddle. I ordered a new one. But the discomfort remained the same. big disappointment. I tried to change the tilt. I did many tests. Nothing. I am starting to think my body has changed.I am 50 years old, slim body type and extremely flexible.My bone distance is 130cm.I would like you to tell me the ideal degrees of dynamic for a road bike.Also which other SMP model do you recommend? .Thank you in advance for your time.Greetings from Greece!
I would agree that over time the body can change and may require a saddle change.
I would recommend the SMP blaster. This is less “dip” and generally tends to be a very good alternative to riders who aren’t getting along the the Dynamic anymore
For the Blaster I recommend trying a range between 0.0 and 1.5 nose down.
Also for reference - the range for the dynamic is around 0.0 - 4.0 nose down. So if you want to make one more effort you could explore that more. Just make sure bike is level across axels when measuring saddle angle - and use a digital level so you know for sure what angles you have tried. I have seen a a few tenths of a degree make all the difference. Good luck and let me know how it goes - my email is tim@greshfit.com - that would be the best place to contact me if you’d like to keep in touch.
Great info! Would you set the composite as the Blaster at 2.5degr min ? Thanks.
That would be a fair place to start - they are very identical in shape - the composite is basically a pad-less Nymber. And the Nymber is simply a wider blaster
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I like many aspects of SMP but I find they transmit more road shock than other saddles. The rails attach directly under the sit bones, rather than behind as on most saddles. The shell is thick and unyielding under the sit bones, so any “give” in the saddle needs to come from the padding only. That eliminates the hammock effect that most saddles have. For me, Selle SMPs feel great in the studio and on the trainer, but on long rides they beat me up too much.
Which model do you have ?
@@greshfit the Drakon and the Lite 209
I ride the dynamic on the road and gravel. Would you recommend the f30 or F20 for MTB?
F30
Read my comments about the F20C, I posted on this video.
Today I decided the Dynamic was not for me. I rode last summer with it and 400 km this year on my road bike but it does not work. I tried many angles and setback but I always end up with frontal perineal pressure and a feeling I am sliding forward. I might try the Nymber or the Drakon, these have a less pronounce dip. What's your take on the Dynamic? Thanks!
I’ve heard this feedback from others. I’d recommend the blaster or the new Evo @ around 0.0-1.5 nose down
@@greshfit Thanks for the reply, apart from the very steep slope at the back of the saddle I think the problem is also the very narrow side around the channel. The Nymber look a lot wider.
Yeah the nymber is wider in that area. The blaster is as well. The blaster is the same shape as Nymber but a little bit more narrow. Can't go wrong either way. I'd say go nymber if you are a bigger/heavier rider
Awesome, thanks for your advice!
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What SMP saddle would you recommend trying for a mtbiker with 100mm sit bone width?
F20 or F30
@@greshfit Awesome thank you. I keep reading that you should add 20mm to your sit bone measurement to find your appropriate saddle width. Is this actually a thing? Because I cannot find any 120mm wide saddles.
I really don’t go by sit bone measurement… it’s not where you sit on the saddle - you sit more on the IPR bones - that’s why finding the right saddle can be tough. In a perfect world demo saddle programs would be the norm in bike shops. But without that your best bet is to order it and try it and see if you can return it
More info on all this - Steve Hogg does a great job explains - google “all about SMPs” and read his blog post
@@greshfit Thank you for the detailed reply. This is great info! I will check out the Steve Hogg post.
Good video, but note that it’s pronounced Selle” and not ‘sellee’
Oops !