Running Cars on Moonshine? - Mythbusters - Science Documentary
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 7 มิ.ย. 2024
- Mythbusters - S08 E23
Discover if moonshine can explode a still and power a car! The team tests explosive moonshine myths, including running cars on moonshine and comparing it to gasoline. Watch to see if these moonshine legends are fact or fiction!
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Grant in eyeliner and Kari in a cop uniform got me feeling a lot of things
I love that they are able to find 3 Chevrolet Camaros from different eras.
The one man looks like Jamie and Adam were mixed together.
Yup. 😂
"Hey, what happened to Adam's hair? Why is he bald? ... Oh, that's not Adam."
@@blargvlarg1390 This is what happens when Jamie and Adam go into the machine from "The Fly". :D
22:58, this cameraman loves his job
Eyes on the prize, dem cheeks.
I love that this show taught me stoichiometrics
Dude it's such a handy thing to understand
29:16 you can almost hear jamie's thoughts lol
I just want to thank you for bringing back the good television, I love the mythbuster and this is the only platform I can watch it
At 16:16 - one myth they forgot to test is the existence of 200 proof alcohol. Ethanol is so hydrophilic it will reduce itself to Ethanone to produce water, and the highest stable concentration of liquid ethanol is 99.8% or 199.6 proof. You can make something at 99.9% / 199.8 proof in lab conditions, but it will decompose to 99.8% in a sealed container. The most you're ever going to produce on a home still (from multiple distillations) is 98% / 196 proof.
Of course, with the repeated references to "high octane moonshine", I think this whole episode was designed to get a response anyone with a chemistry degree :D
However that reference does touch onto the best way to use ethanol in a regular car engine: mix the ethanol with regular octane petroleum. The octane will keep the ethanol from bringing water into the mixture (which is what caused problems for the older engines) and the fuel performs well, and unlike the "pure moonshine" fuel it gets fairly good mileage .
You cannot get past 96% ethanol with destillation only, no matter how many times you try. To get higher concentration you need molecular seives or other chemical drying agents.
You averred to something there which has always bugged me a little. Tbh, I'm not too clear on this myself since I never took 'Science' - or Chemistry - past the equivalent of Middle School, but despite the constant references in everyday parlance to 'High Octane' (fuel) as being equivalent to 'Highly Flammable'×, am I not correct in thinking that, basically, a high octane fuel is _less_ flammable than a low octane one?
×'Flammable' -- or to someone of my vintage, _'inflammable',_ but no point in complicating the issue. These sorts of linguistic changes usually annoy me, but in this instance I can see why the change was made.
@@richiehoyt8487 To explain it as simply as possible, Octane isn't especially more or less flamable than other hydrocarbons; it just happens to have the right vaporisation temperature to be optimal for use in conventional car engines. Certain types of vehicles actually use different types of hydrocarbon fuels as that provides the optimal performance they are after.
The phrase "High Octane" , used correctly, refers to a fuel that has the optimal "knock" temperature; that is the temperature where it becomes explosive.
@@richiehoyt8487 octane is a hydrocarbon in gasoline. AFAIK the octane number on fuel refers to the amount of octane in the fuel. Essentially higher octane fuel is more resistant to self ignition by compression, so fancy car engines can utilise it to improve its performance (by adjusting timing of ignition). Everyday engines does not gain anything by using high octane fuel.
@@jarrodbright5231 Thanks for taking the time and trouble to answer my question. Thanks to your reply (especially when taken with that of @astrix_mvp ) I think I've managed to grasp a decent layman's understanding of the matter.
Less knock tendency means more ignition and boost can be used. One heck of performance booster if correctly tuned for. Totally worth the lower mpg :)
Having your car smell like a stil is also a fun bonus lol
I think the first 'whisky' fuelled escape from the cops' was in the 1949 British film 'Whisky Galore!' ('Tight Little Island' in the USA). It's based on true story of the SS Politician running aground off the Scottish island of Eriskey, on its way to deliver many thousands of bottles of Scotch to the USA in 1941, when Eriskey's beer ration had been cut to a few pints a week; and the taste of whisky was a happy memory.
It was *based* on a true story, but I think it was highly fictionalized.
I converted an old '62 Buick to run on E85 because it was cheaper than racing gas, so I know a little bit about this subject.
It's not a difficult conversion, but if you just pour Ethanol in your gas tank of an old car without doing it, the alcohol will destroy every gasket and seal in your fuel system. Alcohol also attracts water, so your steel fuel lines will eventually rust out.
In the 20th Century they didn't have computer controlled fuel injection, and even if they got it to run, the car would burst into flame once all the gaskets in the carburetor melted.
I'm literally about to make some moonshine.I was going to try and Convert my rc nitro truck to run on alcohol
Your "nitro" car actually already runs on alcohol...
@@andreim841was about to say that... It's mostly methanol.
@@andreim841 So it should work
I've never understood why Americans for some reason need to use the "proof" thing when it comes to alcohol.
Why not just say how much alcohol there is?
Is it so it sounds more hardcore, with double the badassness, saying for example 100 proof rather than 50% alcohol?
And if so, why not adopt the metric system?
They'd weigh less, be taller and their cars would go faster, kind of🙂
Also, water freezing at zero degrees and boiling at a hundred degrees makes SO much more sense than that Fahrenheit thing🙂
100% proof was the threshold for taxation. You soaked gunpowder with your liquid. 100% was the minimum alcohol level where the soaked gunpowder would ignite. This was a reliable test and easily undertaken.
BTW Fahrenheit is more precise and more or less defines the temperatures people would want to live at.
The metric system fails catastrophically as you cannot divide by three. Pretty basic problem there.
@@mbak7801you sound like someone who says "well its 300 degrees Kelvin in this room 🤓 " when its a room temperature of 26° in fact id go so far as to say your name is Kelvin.. lol jk
Although ill say kilos and cm's are stupid and hard to understand, pounds and inches are better, inches make feet which can be compiled and understood in bigger terms, cms make nothing and are dumb until you get to a kilometer
@@JimboDaBimbo-my9mx If you don't measure speed in bullets per freedom eagles, length by multiples of 9mm, and mark time by the duration of the pledge of allegiance, are you even an American?
@@JimboDaBimbo-my9mx in metrical system all units are interconnected each other and there are prefixes that you can use to multiply the unit to avoid the use of a lot of zeroes and/or exponential notation ad have a faster and better understand of the magnitude.
do you already heard these notations:
pico = p = X 0.000000000001
nano = n = X 0.000000001
micro = µ = X 0.000001
milli = m = X 0.001
centi = c = X 0.01
deci = d = X 0.1
deca = da = X 10
etto = h = X100
kilo = k = X1000
mega = M = X1000000
giga = G = X1000000000
tera = T = X1000000000000
There are more.... but these are the most common used one.
centimeters (or "cm" but not "cms"!!!) are very easy to convert in millimeters (mm) or micrometers (µm) or nanometers (nm) but also to convert in decimeters (dm) meters (m, which is the base unit without any prefix), decameters (dam) ettometers (hm) kilometers (km) and so on...... just add zeroes before or after the decimal point to convert between these units!!!!
Also, metrical units are linked together in a straight way to ease the calculations.
For example, you need 1 joule of energy to lift 1 newton of mass by 1 meter...
If you don't like the joule and newton units..... well, 1 joule equals to 1 watt for 1 second and 1 newton is equal to 100 grams (or 1 ettogram "hg" if you prefer)......... and by the way, 1 watt equals 1 volt x 1 ampere......
..... when you use metrical unit, all the units are linked together, you can add a prefix to substantially increase or decrease the magnitude in powers of 10 and the calculation are straightforward.... when you use imperial units, you have to convert in different units that are linked together in a very odd way....
i can give you an example....... 1/4 of inch is equal to.....
0.25 inch (of course!)
0.0208333333333 feet
0.0000039375 miles
6350 µm
I always thought the US didn’t want to risk becoming pseudo sophisticated, pompous, overbearing zealots by not adopting the metric system officially. I use the system I want when I want, don’t tread on me.
i love seeing épisodes that include cars and knowing how an engine works makes it that much better
I love how they didn't use the bomb range or a shipping container for this one, they just explode a bomb inside the workshop
"Distiling spirits isn't dangerous, kids, just illegal!" Fuck methanol, I guess.
I also couldn’t believe they didn’t even mention methanol when it’s always don’t try this at home.
It is practically impossible to make methanol by accident. They should have done that myth.
A curious observation: Tory mentions he is puting a 96% pure ethanol moonshine in the car, which would have a 3% higher ethanol concentration than the standard "pure ethanol" option we find in Brazilian gas stations and regurarly used in cars since the 1970s.
Lawyers would have been having a fit seeing people drinking alcohol produced under a license for making fuel.
The myths of cars running off moonshine probably originated during the prohibition era so all the ones tested were too new and if none were tuned to work with the fuel it was a flawed test. The spirit of the myth was about the vehicle and not just the fuel.
If it's an old enough diesel it will run on almost anything, ethanol? plant oil? Just fill the tank.
And many modern cars are again able to to run on ethanol. The default mixture for many years is with 5% ethanol, with 10% ethanol mixture is becoming the standard and in some places (like Brazil) even 85% ethanol is common.
So you missed Grant pointing out that they could tune any of the cars used to run on moonshine but that wasn't the point of the test they were doing?
They were just testing a more recent myth than the original - probably because obtaining and modifying a vintage car would be a bit more difficult and expensive
This episode was a cross-over to promote one of the networks other programs, so the producers didn't want an outcome that would go against that goal. Tory purposely got squirrely on the dirt track with the gas car, knowing that it would increase the final time because his boss wanted to promote the other show, not make it look silly. Not saying they cheated, but Adam Savage has implied that there are things that they aren't supposed to talk about because of an NDA.
Moonshiners in the 20th Century didn't have computer controlled fuel injection, and even if they got it to run, the car would burst into flame once all the gaskets in the carburetor melted.
Since 2005, gasoline in Germany contains 5% alcohol (E5). Since 2011, an EU regulation requires all gas stations to offer E10, and you guessed it, E10 means 10% alcohol. Alcohol has 35% less energy density than gasoline. The difference between E10 and pure gas is about 3% higher consumption. However, with newer cars being optimized for E10, some actually use less depending on driving conditions; that's because alcohol has a higher octane rating. Originally, alcohol was added to increase the knock strength of gasoline, which is rather poor for pure gasoline. You can get the same effect by adding Benzol, but Benzol is more expensive, very toxic and carcinogenic. Today it is added as a way to get cheaper gasoline because alcohol is cheaper to produce than gasoline. Also the alcohol is made out of plants and has a way better CO2 footprint.
Is Grant wearing eyeliner?
He was cosplaying as a 90's person like Tory was cosplaying as a 70's person
@@ambulocetusnatans OK, makes total sense.
47:07 😂
39:50 You can't see vapor, but I think you could smell it.
The track looks a lot like the one Cleetus Mcfarland bought
I can't believe a 2013 car looks old. Crazy phenomena, and difficult to grasp that today's cars will look vintage in 10-20 years.
They should really talk about the heads and tails of the distillation, in case any idiot tries it and blinds himself with methanol
But methanol isn't made from distilling alcohol from yeast or other forms that ethanol is made. It's made from wood. Fractions that are made that come before or after ethanol are mixed other volatile substances. It's basically a myth that methanol comes from distillation.
@@konradukasiewicz4834 Thanks for busting that particular myth. Appreciate the info!
9:51 royally got the explanation of the carburettor wrong
Ok, wouldn't be that important for usage as fuel, but since you are tasting that stuff: Have you separated the Mthanol from the rest (Ethanol) before ingesting later?
This is Confirmed - one of my neighbours blew the roof off his garage/shed with his Still, Cider to Calvados(?) His Kids, ran their banger on reject stock in a spare field. No clues, statute expired! UK.
13:08 ethanol lowers temps not raise them, you burn more alcohol to get the same power as gasoline, the extra ethanol be burned keeps temps lower.
It has a lower density so it does burn hotter cause the fuel injection pumps a lot more of it.
The real problem with ethanol or any alcohol in an internal combustion engine is that alcohol is a base and a powerful solvent, that's why we also use alcohol to clean. Unfortunately libricating oil is an acid so ethanol gradually dissolves the lubricant of the engine. With race cars they kind of just put up with that and completely relubricate the engine before every race.
I do wonder if you could add water to fuel though. I mean I know it works with rockets and it's still done. Water absorbs heat extremely well and under high pressure it stays a liquid to a very high temperature. When it does turn to gas it also extracts a lot of heat.
@@MrMarinus18 water methanol injection, evaporative effect from water, increase octane rating of fuel, run more timing more power.
Not with a turbo charged engine or compressor.
The extra boost it gets increase the power, and it is possible to have a higher compression to, and it cools the engine.
@@atvheads wrong, e85 is preferred on boosted applications.
New car is designed To work with part ethanol fuel.
There is only one questionn still open, do cops really eat that much donuts?
was the tanks really empty befor filling with moonshine?
ethanol burns softer than gasoline
@43:04: WRONG cut at 43:37 again, the boy is the driver
in Romania we double still it. Only once makes it too weak
Kari, looking hotter than normal, as a cop.
"Grant Imaahaaaeeraaa..."
If it's running rich the car maybe smoke but surely doesn't run hot. The fuel has a cooling effect. Only if you run lean then you maybe overheat the engine and destroy it.
any modern car that can run on modern fuels such as E85 should be able to run on moonshine alcohol because E85 is gasoline mixed with ethanol
the computer inside modern cars such as my multi fuel Volvo V70 can adopt itself
it can run on ordinary petrol, e85 or pure ethanol
that is why it worked so well for the modern car in the test as well, it was made to run on e85
ethanol is cheaper at the pump but the fuel consumption is a little higher so it doesnt matter at the end
E85 is standard in the EU
I don't know about the US though
I would have like to have seen the 73 rejected for ethanol first
That *new* car is now 11 years old
Yes that is how time works. This was filmed ~~~ in the past ~~~
I loved Grant but why the heck is he wearing eye liner in the vehicle test?
He was cosplaying as a 90's person like Tory was cosplaying as a 70's person
Even in a 80's period car that eyeliner would have been appropriate if you think of all the hair metal bands of that time. Hair metal was very popular in the early 90's too though.
@@potato4143 yeah good point
Don't get me wrong, I love this show, but I converted an old '62 Buick to run on E85 because it was cheaper than racing gas, so I know a little bit about this subject.
It's not a difficult conversion, but if you just pour Ethanol in your gas tank of an old car without doing it, the alcohol will destroy every gasket and seal in your fuel system. Alcohol also attracts water, so your steel fuel lines will eventually rust out.
This episode was a cross-over to promote one of the networks other programs, so the producers didn't want an outcome that would go against that goal. Tory purposely got squirrely on the dirt track with the gas car, knowing that it would increase the final time because his boss wanted to promote the other show, not make it look silly. Not saying they cheated, but Adam Savage has implied that there are things that they aren't supposed to talk about because of an NDA.
Moonshiners in the 20th Century didn't have computer controlled fuel injection, and even if they got it to run, the car would burst into flame once all the gaskets in the carburetor melted.
do moonshine have same range miles/km wise as benzin ? or diesel ???
No. The range will be lower than with regular gasoline. Using E10 decreases your range by 1-2% compared to E5. (And that's with engines designed to recognize the difference and adjust themselves accordingly)
So even with an engine built specifically for running on pure ethanol, you're easily gonna consume 10% more.
And since diesel already has a better gas mileage than gasoline, there's no point in comparing those 2...
@@derGameplayDJ Exactly. The price of E85 is always cheaper per gallon, but unless it is 15% cheaper than regular gas, there's no savings.
For some reason, I thought the moonshine would work better in the older car.
Don't most moonshiners use gas burners ? That's the open flame right there.
Did you skip the part where Adam's still burned the shack down instead of exploding?
If the flame is constantly present, it'll simply burn the vapor long before it reaches an explosive ratio...
Put it in a generator and then charge your various
Moonshiners should buy H2O ometer
They don't test or be afraid for any methanol in their distiled ethanol
They didn't mention it, but that guy from the whisky factory was there, so I'm sure he made sure they did things correctly.
Why is it illegal? is it illegal for wine also?
Only the distillation part is illegal in the US. You can make your own alcohol, you just can't purify it (legally, without a permit)
Call me crazy, but I’d say that they don’t just tell the myths!
how to bumpstart an automatic?
How to automatically change gears in a manual?
@@TapesNstuffS you need at least 3 guys. one to hold down the pedal to control the clutch. 1 to switch gear. and 1 to pay attention to the road.
but seriously, there is no way to bumpstart an automatic, ey?
@@bertjesklotepino Don't think so.
I think there still shed was not real world. No shed is air tight like there's
It´s funny how the covered the Chevrolet-Badge... for what?
legal reasons
@@danipatel6215 which?
@@micha0001 licences
And like royalties
Is there some kind of law where they need to cover any type of company logo or insignia? Its starting to be a pet peeve for me...
Just a matter of what makes sense, you don't want to give companies free advertising when ads and sponsorships is a source of revenue for things like TV shows. If you see logos in professionally produced TV media, it's not unlikely that there's some sort of sponsorship going on. Same reason TH-camrs say "no-spon" when they show a brand on screen that they're not just showing because they were sponsored.
Sometimes you have to pay a fee to use a company logo in a show too. There's also issues around lawsuits if you show a product in a negative way.
basically advertisement laws.
@@HappyBeezerStudios oh, ok, thanks
I would love to see this with a European car not a V8 American car and I bet it would die or not run
Wouldn't you have to use a car from the 30s
or a brand new car. Many modern cars can run on 85% ethanol mixture and some even on 100%. bio ethanol is literally becoming the replacement for fossil fuels.
is grant wearing make-up?
Mythbusters got a permit, and obviously Moonshiners did as well. What a fake show.
This episode was a cross-over to promote one of the networks other programs, so the producers didn't want an outcome that would go against that goal. Tory purposely got squirrely on the dirt track with the gas car, knowing that it would increase the final time because his boss wanted to promote the other show, not make it look silly.
This kind of deceptive practice, especially on a show that's trying to promote Critical Thinking, is one of the reasons why I got rid of cable 20 years ago. If we keep giving them money, they will keep doing it.
Moonshiners in the 20th Century didn't have computer controlled fuel injection, and even if they got it to run, the car would burst into flame once all the gaskets in the carburetor melted.
@@ambulocetusnatans OR they got better with each successful run? Occam's razor my friend
Why didn't they just dyno it?
Like dyno the car with Moonshine vs Gasoline
Wouldn't be as fun
I do think this is one of the weaker episodes. Adam also said that the cross-over episodes were the hardest and his least favourite because they were corporate dictates.
But without it, he would not be able to do myths from Indiana Jones, Star Wars or even The Simpsons.
@@rockstar6790 But those aren't cross over episodes? Indiana Jones and Star wars were just themed specials. I think what Adam disliked were the episodes where people from other shows like the Crab Fishers or the people from Breaking bad are on set and the Mythbusters have to create and test scenarios from these shows, and all that is just to advertise these other shows, no matter how uninteresting the scenarios end up being.
I have made moonshine that is better than commercial vodka.
Better how, all moonshine is better than vodka at getting you drunk and its usually way higher proof too soo whats your point, unless it tastes like water you didnt make it better
Is grant wearing eyeliner?
It looks like that. I didn't know that he was a trans.
Like Tory he is wearing a period outfit. In his case 90s Emo.
@@atvheads appropriate comment for such an old fuck like yourself
@@Simon-rb6yyahh yess i remember being 8 in 99 and all my male friends were wearing eyeliner, stupid production choice
@@atvheadsdude, tons of mans wore eyeliner in the 80 there’s no need to be trans for that
Mythbusters promoting moonshiners which is the most fake TV show for years sucks and goes to show how far mythbusters had fallen since their prime.
They didn’t promote they used it as images to describe what they were going to do and also it’s probably network contracts
Cmon now the most fake tv show on discovery at the time was mountain monsters, if you dont remember they caugnt a werewolf and a bigfoot in a big cage and no one cared it never made the news i wonder why
@@omnirathit was a promotion episode, which imo is always hit and miss.
I think the better ones were the Breaking Bad ones
Hot cop Carrie is really hot I start fantasy about her 25 years ago & the mother of my kids looks a lot like her 🫣
I was about to write the same. DAMN SHE LOOKED AMAZING (I mean always does but in the coplays there was EXTRA"