Coming from a metal fabricator/welder here you are spot on with this video! Thank you , your time , knowledge,and all that goes into making a video that will help and make it faster for some one else to do.
I came across the Swag Offroad kit last year. Like you I could have made it from plate steel, but it came down to time savings, or so I thought. Ordered it the on Jan 10th this year. It got lost at the Portland, WA post office. Opened up a case with USPS and wrote Swag. Swag said they have had that problem several times before. However I had to wait 30 days before Swag would send me another one. After 30 days I asked to have it sent some other way other than USPS flat package. I have a feeling it got tossed around and the box probably fell apart. The new one arrived today, Feb 15 via FedEx. Good thing they put the USPS box into a FedEx tyvek bag, because the box inside was torn apart where the metal plates were busting thru again, but the bag held up and all parts were there. Temp today was -6 when I woke up this morning and my garage is not heated, but I managed to weld on the wings tonight in 16 degree temp. I did have some warpage on 1 wing that needed to be pounded out. Tomorrow I'll start the top portion and the drive unit. Going with the original HF axle and using the HF threader pieces. Like you I'll be putting in a shim made from a 7/8 to 3/4 crank shaft sleeve adapter that I milled open weeks ago to go on the shaft for the HF threader die. Can you tell I've been waiting to get this thing put together. Upcoming project with twelve 1.5" tubing to be connected together for 47' long, bent into half circle of 30' diameter. However, if I ever need to do square tubing like you I'll have to order Swag's keyway shaft and dies, along with their drive hub to weld on the shaft. More money $85. Its all 4130 chromoly, so a little different in welding it up that I have never done and may have to find a professional since I don't want to screw it up. I wish they would just sell the axle and drive hub already welded. One thing I noticed on the HF base, it is not perfectly perpendicular, which leads to that slop between the rollers. I ground mine down and got the sides to run parallel to each other and perpendicular to the base.
really appreciate the time you put into making this. I have a hossfeld and saw dies for 1x2 but after talking with them i'm glad i went with the roller option in my shop as well ( less kink). the tip for the wider leverage is genius. the straight out of the box attempt and then modified is what i needed to see to make my final decision for a 16 foot curved section i was gonna used a forge and sand on. guy from swag said .095 wall was fine without a pack so i'll be off and rolling here soon. thanks
I have the complete SWAG Off Road mod kit with the wings and the hydraulic jack and the electric drive. It still is a slow go on heavy wall tube but it works great. Oh and a foot pedal so I could keep better control of starts and stops.
@@WildmanTech Good to hear. You can also always email me at "jon" at our url, and I'll set you up with a free forum account (usually $39/year) and you can post your videos on our forum whenever you want. We have lots of YTers on board; looks like you're one of us.
very great video thank you much for your time and knowledge i didnt see this bender first, tought i was looking for domething eventually purchased the hydraulic bender hoping might works it """breaks"" the square tubing, but purchased some bearings and putting different washers i can cut with machine, basically i have the rollers i need
😂😂😂 every video i watch with this kind of roller everyone sims to get a work out.!!!!!😂😂😂😂😂!!! Bits going to the gym. 3 hours😂😂😂. 5 more tubes to roll.😂😂😂 Don’t get me wrong , i really enjoyed watching the video and now i know i can modify that thing and use less 💪power, and more electrical 🔌power.
wanting to do a tube roll of similar radius for arches to grow plants. wondering how many passes and how long it took to complete each segment with the added power? Thanks And yes just watching you manually roll one mad me tired.
Is it possible to use an inexpensive $75 winch motor from harbor freight instead of the electric pipe threader? I believe it should have the torque and power
There are lots of different power sources you could use. The trick will be interfacing to the drive wheel. All the parts to interface to the pipe threader are readily available.
It might have worked, but the guys at Swag said the first thing to fail would be that screw on the top. I'm not thrilled by the additional amount of waste on the ends, but the labor savings is totally worth it!
Coming from a metal fabricator/welder here you are spot on with this video! Thank you , your time , knowledge,and all that goes into making a video that will help and make it faster for some one else to do.
You’ll be glad having that beefed up roller for future projects!
I came across the Swag Offroad kit last year. Like you I could have made it from plate steel, but it came down to time savings, or so I thought. Ordered it the on Jan 10th this year. It got lost at the Portland, WA post office. Opened up a case with USPS and wrote Swag. Swag said they have had that problem several times before. However I had to wait 30 days before Swag would send me another one. After 30 days I asked to have it sent some other way other than USPS flat package. I have a feeling it got tossed around and the box probably fell apart. The new one arrived today, Feb 15 via FedEx. Good thing they put the USPS box into a FedEx tyvek bag, because the box inside was torn apart where the metal plates were busting thru again, but the bag held up and all parts were there.
Temp today was -6 when I woke up this morning and my garage is not heated, but I managed to weld on the wings tonight in 16 degree temp. I did have some warpage on 1 wing that needed to be pounded out. Tomorrow I'll start the top portion and the drive unit. Going with the original HF axle and using the HF threader pieces. Like you I'll be putting in a shim made from a 7/8 to 3/4 crank shaft sleeve adapter that I milled open weeks ago to go on the shaft for the HF threader die. Can you tell I've been waiting to get this thing put together. Upcoming project with twelve 1.5" tubing to be connected together for 47' long, bent into half circle of 30' diameter. However, if I ever need to do square tubing like you I'll have to order Swag's keyway shaft and dies, along with their drive hub to weld on the shaft. More money $85. Its all 4130 chromoly, so a little different in welding it up that I have never done and may have to find a professional since I don't want to screw it up. I wish they would just sell the axle and drive hub already welded.
One thing I noticed on the HF base, it is not perfectly perpendicular, which leads to that slop between the rollers. I ground mine down and got the sides to run parallel to each other and perpendicular to the base.
I enjoyed watching your solution to completing a miserable job. Well done
I just bent five more tubes in less time than it took to do one before the upgrade.
Thanks for editing appropriately. Good info.
"I thought it was cast, but I did a spark test on it apparently something you can weld to" sounds like me! Good video with factual information.
really appreciate the time you put into making this. I have a hossfeld and saw dies for 1x2 but after talking with them i'm glad i went with the roller option in my shop as well ( less kink). the tip for the wider leverage is genius. the straight out of the box attempt and then modified is what i needed to see to make my final decision for a 16 foot curved section i was gonna used a forge and sand on. guy from swag said .095 wall was fine without a pack so i'll be off and rolling here soon. thanks
That was well worth the trouble and time modifying the tubing bender . It will be NO sweat the next time you use the bender. Good job Marsh
Happy New Year Lloyd! I just bent five more tubes in less time than it took to do one before the upgrade.
I have the same original setup and need to make 10ft by 2x1" metal circles. This couldnt have been a more perfect video. Thank you!
I appreciate your helpful videos
Money well spent! I was tired watching you work!!! Looks like a fun project. Great job
Very nice video. Love your format of getting to the point without the hee-hawing of so many other videos. And love your dog too!
Best dog I ever had!
I have the complete SWAG Off Road mod kit with the wings and the hydraulic jack and the electric drive. It still is a slow go on heavy wall tube but it works great. Oh and a foot pedal so I could keep better control of starts and stops.
Great video!!
Thanks for video! Really informative and helpful! Happy New Year Wildman!
Nice job. We shared this video on our homemade tools forum this week 😎
Awesome! Thank you, I really appreciate that! I think you shared something of mine before too. I just downloaded the ebook.
@@WildmanTech Good to hear. You can also always email me at "jon" at our url, and I'll set you up with a free forum account (usually $39/year) and you can post your videos on our forum whenever you want. We have lots of YTers on board; looks like you're one of us.
Cool vid. I converted mine to a hydraulic motor and the swag axle. The key keeps shifting and imho junk. Have to modify or remake a shaft.
Awesome video sir!
very great video
thank you much for your time and knowledge
i didnt see this bender first, tought i was looking for domething
eventually purchased the hydraulic bender hoping might works
it """breaks"" the square tubing, but purchased some bearings and putting different washers i can cut with machine, basically i have the rollers i need
Subscribed. You are the man!
Nice video and hack, totally worth it. Can't wait to see the bench finished. Mahalo for sharing! : )
😂😂😂 every video i watch with this kind of roller everyone sims to get a work out.!!!!!😂😂😂😂😂!!! Bits going to the gym. 3 hours😂😂😂. 5 more tubes to roll.😂😂😂 Don’t get me wrong , i really enjoyed watching the video and now i know i can modify that thing and use less 💪power, and more electrical 🔌power.
The guys at swag should make a kit to build the entire roller.
They make one. It's $900 without the power drive and dies are $190 per set.
wanting to do a tube roll of similar radius for arches to grow plants. wondering how many passes and how long it took to complete each segment with the added power? Thanks And yes just watching you manually roll one mad me tired.
I ended up rolling four more tubes and it took less than two hours for all of them. I didn't count the passes.
Cool video. Thanks sir. How far apart are the lower wheels now
When you do this mod, you lose the original roller holes. The new ones are either 15", or 21" apart.
@@WildmanTech Thankyou sir
Nice nice
Is it possible to use an inexpensive $75 winch motor from harbor freight instead of the electric pipe threader? I believe it should have the torque and power
There are lots of different power sources you could use. The trick will be interfacing to the drive wheel. All the parts to interface to the pipe threader are readily available.
Do you think you could have done without wing extensions and just the motor addition?
It might have worked, but the guys at Swag said the first thing to fail would be that screw on the top. I'm not thrilled by the additional amount of waste on the ends, but the labor savings is totally worth it!
What gauge was the steel section box?
The rectangle tube I was rolling? 0.065" wall. Roughly 16 gauge. If you're talking about the wing and riser kit, that's all 1/4" plate.
What was the wall thickness you were bending?
0.065” Should work on 0.120” as well.
Can this make a 90 in 1/ 5/8 tube?
It's going to have a pretty large radius, but yes.
@@WildmanTech how tight of radius do you think for say a 75 degree? Thanks
@@todds5956 This isn't the right tool for a tight radius. With 1-5/8" tubing it will be like 6' or more. This is what you need... amzn.to/47mz9Uq
Damm. I don't have the stocked workshop or know-how to do all of this. I'm going to have to pay a fabricator to bend square tubes to spec.
Fun video, though
Your local steel supply can probably do it.
You need to add the swag wing extensions.it would make it easier to bend .
Nicely done. I will be back. And I SUB'd and LIKE'd too!
Impact gun
This comment makes no sense whatsoever and makes you look like an idiot.
Great video !