I've found brown cardboard which is a corrugated piecs sandwiched between two flat pieces to be an effective ghetto strop or feild strop when you have nothing else. Those corrugations really seem to help.
Hey there..😂 ..this must be the funniest thing that I have seen in my life.. 😂 As someone that's nearing 60 and familiar with the paper being illustrated here since the age of 15.. I am truly amused..this is the best video that i ever seen .. 😂 Once again..thankyou..
I thought i try to give you a tip on the T8 😄 You know that resonanse humming noise it dose sometimes? If you put some kind of soft tape on the arms that holds the watertray the noise disappears. Sorry for my english.
Really cool idea! Looks like it works well! Also do you have any experience using the diamond wheels for the T8? Specifically using the diamond wheels for butchering knives? Thanks
@@MrBBQDoug Hi Doug. No, I'm not interested in the diamond wheels. Too fiddly for a commercial operation. I need something reliable and robust that I can rely on. I'm a huge fan of the standard SG wheel. I think it's magical.
Did you load it up with compound? Or is it truly just straight up skin like it looks to be? I'm surprised at the steep angle you use, especially on the pushing stroke. I'm going to try that in the morning because I have been struggling to get perfect stropping results and I am usually using very shallow angles... (Basically the same angle I use for the sharpening)
@@lukearts2954 kangaroo tail has unique ridges found on no other animal. No compound is ever needed. Angle isn't as important as dislodging the burr root (wire edge). The entire sharpening community is far too obsessed with angle both in sharpening and stripping in my opinion. Getting a clean burr free edge (apex) is the most important factor as I keep proving. You don't need the knife totally upright but you do need to focus on the apex. Try not caring so much about the precise angle and focus on dislodging that stubborn root.
@@iSharpen that is great advice that I will take to heart. It's amazing that these ridges work so well. Is it perhaps because their tail is far more muscular than any other mammal's, that the skin is developed differently? I wonder if I can find such skin here in Europe...
@@lukearts2954 It's specific to kangaroos because they use their tails to hop off while travelling and the older males develops those ridges over a long period of time, they act like tyre tread and provide grip for a better push. That's why not all kangaroo tails are equal (old males are better than old females and young males (as in humans...lol) and old male kangaroo body leather isn't the same or as useful as the tails from old males.
I only use the standard SG wheel and a really old standard Tormek leather wheel with Veritas chrome oxide for abrasive. The wheel with the black tape on it is just a counterweight. I like to use two machines so I don't have to keep removing the leather wheel for clearance when the SG wheel gets low.
G'day Rick, thanks for asking. It's a bit tricky because kangaroos are a native species so there are government controls when it comes to the commercial use and exporting of products derived from them such as my kangaroo tail strops. I have them for sale but I'm restricted to only selling to Australians until I get an export license. They're expensive and tricky to get but I've been going through all the hoops and expense to apply for one and am cautiously optimistic of being granted one. I'm currently waiting for the government to grant me my export license and when they do I'll be able to sell them internationally but they say it could take up to 2 months from when I applied a few weeks ago. So subscribe and make sure you've got notifications turned on because I'll be making an announcement as soon as I hear.
They used to be $1 per pack but have been caught up in the anti nicotine hysteria. If they can't slice through a rolling paper the knife has a dirty edge. Either the burr or the root of the burr (wire edge) is still there. Also if you can slice clean it's the equivalent to about 80-100 clip BESS. What sort of rig are you using?
@@iSharpen Edge Pro Apex with Al Oxide stones and now I've been trying the new Edgepro Diamond Resin Stones up to 4000 grit. I'm now finishing off with a Kangaroo strop and Jende 2 micron premium diamond emulsion on a kangaroo strop. You are right the kangaroo strop makes all the difference. Might even get a finer grit for my new 2 sided kangaroo strop and just stop around 600. It makes a big difference on how fast I can cut up a sambar or the fox scalps. I would like to have the BESS and a Tormek T8 but I don't have the room so EP Apex and my wicked Edge Go will have to do for now. I just checked I can slice about 3/4 of the way down the paper on a few of my knives then it gets caught. I'll give them another strop!
@@mchughcb Awesome, sounds like a great rig. Be careful with "kangaroo" strops though. Unless they specifically mention the tail it's just body leather and just a slightly harder wearing normal leather. The Kangaroo tail of an old male has specially formed ridges (they push off those ridges when jumping - like tyre tread)) which are the real secret to removing the root and all remnants of the burr leaving nothing but a pure edge. If you can;t physically see the ridges it's just plain body leather. If your knife catches on rolling paper the burr is still there.
@@mchughcb What country are you in? I'm eagerly awaiting my export permit approval. It was submitted two weeks ago but they say it can take up to 2 months to approve. I may not get it but if I do I'll be aiming to become the world's foremost supplier of kangaroo tails and pre-built strops. May as well think big right?
It would be cool to see you sharpen a cleaver then strop half on a regular leather strop then strop the other half on the roo tail. Straight blade for consistency and the results would be great to see!
@iSharpen I thought you would have still had your old one. Well if the standard procedure for most other people is cow leather with green compound it would be good to compare it to your method and if you do it on the same knife half and half I think that would make for great results aswell as a great title and thumbnail
@@gtrzero2157 they can not be imported into California. Your Californian government forbids you from owning it. However kangaroo products can be imported into most other states in the U.S. as far as I know. My problem is that even though I was recently granted an export permit I have since discovered that the massive fees and miles of red tape make it a cost prohibitive exercise. However, I am experimenting with other non restricted leathers (such as buffalo) which has a bumpy texture and am also trying to figure out how I can produce a fake texture on cow leather that will do the same thing. I encourage you to do the same. It seems to be in the bumps. Go with that.
@@viper04af try to source something with a bit more texture that's undyed and naturally bumpy. Sone have had similar success with buffalo hide but it must be natural and unflattened. Dying flattens it removing all the important texture. In the old days stops used to be made from horse hide with embossed ridges pressed in on purpose. Smooth strops don't seem to work as well.
I've found brown cardboard which is a corrugated piecs sandwiched between two flat pieces to be an effective ghetto strop or feild strop when you have nothing else. Those corrugations really seem to help.
@@aussiehardwood6196 anything is better than nothing. The burr doesn't know or care what's trying to remove it. As long as it's gone.
Hey there..😂 ..this must be the funniest thing that I have seen in my life.. 😂
As someone that's nearing 60 and familiar with the paper being illustrated here since the age of 15..
I am truly amused..this is the best video that i ever seen .. 😂
Once again..thankyou..
We're the same age. I know exactly what you're referring to. Light 'em if ya got 'em.
I thought i try to give you a tip on the T8 😄 You know that resonanse humming noise it dose sometimes? If you put some kind of soft tape on the arms that holds the watertray the noise disappears. Sorry for my english.
@@anteboy91 yeah, that tray is often the culprit. Also the angle finder stuck to the front.
@@iSharpen yep somtimes everything is vibrating.
Really cool idea! Looks like it works well! Also do you have any experience using the diamond wheels for the T8? Specifically using the diamond wheels for butchering knives?
Thanks
@@MrBBQDoug Hi Doug. No, I'm not interested in the diamond wheels. Too fiddly for a commercial operation. I need something reliable and robust that I can rely on. I'm a huge fan of the standard SG wheel. I think it's magical.
@@MrBBQDoug I have the 600 and 1200 and 360 diamond wheel and I love them all. I hardly use my stock wheel at all anymore
Did you load it up with compound? Or is it truly just straight up skin like it looks to be?
I'm surprised at the steep angle you use, especially on the pushing stroke. I'm going to try that in the morning because I have been struggling to get perfect stropping results and I am usually using very shallow angles... (Basically the same angle I use for the sharpening)
@@lukearts2954 kangaroo tail has unique ridges found on no other animal. No compound is ever needed. Angle isn't as important as dislodging the burr root (wire edge). The entire sharpening community is far too obsessed with angle both in sharpening and stripping in my opinion. Getting a clean burr free edge (apex) is the most important factor as I keep proving. You don't need the knife totally upright but you do need to focus on the apex. Try not caring so much about the precise angle and focus on dislodging that stubborn root.
@@iSharpen that is great advice that I will take to heart. It's amazing that these ridges work so well. Is it perhaps because their tail is far more muscular than any other mammal's, that the skin is developed differently? I wonder if I can find such skin here in Europe...
@@lukearts2954 It's specific to kangaroos because they use their tails to hop off while travelling and the older males develops those ridges over a long period of time, they act like tyre tread and provide grip for a better push. That's why not all kangaroo tails are equal (old males are better than old females and young males (as in humans...lol) and old male kangaroo body leather isn't the same or as useful as the tails from old males.
@@iSharpen 😄💯
What wheels do you have on the Tormek in the background?
I only use the standard SG wheel and a really old standard Tormek leather wheel with Veritas chrome oxide for abrasive. The wheel with the black tape on it is just a counterweight. I like to use two machines so I don't have to keep removing the leather wheel for clearance when the SG wheel gets low.
Awesome video. Could you link a place to get such strop?
Thank you in advance
Cheers from Texas!
G'day Rick, thanks for asking. It's a bit tricky because kangaroos are a native species so there are government controls when it comes to the commercial use and exporting of products derived from them such as my kangaroo tail strops.
I have them for sale but I'm restricted to only selling to Australians until I get an export license. They're expensive and tricky to get but I've been going through all the hoops and expense to apply for one and am cautiously optimistic of being granted one.
I'm currently waiting for the government to grant me my export license and when they do I'll be able to sell them internationally but they say it could take up to 2 months from when I applied a few weeks ago.
So subscribe and make sure you've got notifications turned on because I'll be making an announcement as soon as I hear.
Wow!! I had no idea!! I love your channel!! Keep up the amazing work and I will be posted
Thank you again
Nice. I thought I'd try it myself. Them Talleyhos are $7/box of 250 gummed papers.
They used to be $1 per pack but have been caught up in the anti nicotine hysteria. If they can't slice through a rolling paper the knife has a dirty edge. Either the burr or the root of the burr (wire edge) is still there. Also if you can slice clean it's the equivalent to about 80-100 clip BESS. What sort of rig are you using?
@@iSharpen Edge Pro Apex with Al Oxide stones and now I've been trying the new Edgepro Diamond Resin Stones up to 4000 grit. I'm now finishing off with a Kangaroo strop and Jende 2 micron premium diamond emulsion on a kangaroo strop. You are right the kangaroo strop makes all the difference. Might even get a finer grit for my new 2 sided kangaroo strop and just stop around 600. It makes a big difference on how fast I can cut up a sambar or the fox scalps. I would like to have the BESS and a Tormek T8 but I don't have the room so EP Apex and my wicked Edge Go will have to do for now. I just checked I can slice about 3/4 of the way down the paper on a few of my knives then it gets caught. I'll give them another strop!
@@mchughcb Awesome, sounds like a great rig. Be careful with "kangaroo" strops though. Unless they specifically mention the tail it's just body leather and just a slightly harder wearing normal leather. The Kangaroo tail of an old male has specially formed ridges (they push off those ridges when jumping - like tyre tread)) which are the real secret to removing the root and all remnants of the burr leaving nothing but a pure edge. If you can;t physically see the ridges it's just plain body leather. If your knife catches on rolling paper the burr is still there.
@@iSharpen Looks like mine are plain leather off the back. I'll keep an eye out for the tail ones from now on.
@@mchughcb What country are you in? I'm eagerly awaiting my export permit approval. It was submitted two weeks ago but they say it can take up to 2 months to approve. I may not get it but if I do I'll be aiming to become the world's foremost supplier of kangaroo tails and pre-built strops. May as well think big right?
It would be cool to see you sharpen a cleaver then strop half on a regular leather strop then strop the other half on the roo tail. Straight blade for consistency and the results would be great to see!
@@GooseMilk7 what do you mean by a regular leather strop precisely?
Just a cow leather strop with compound vs the kangaroo tail
@@GooseMilk7 I'd have to buy one. What compound?
@iSharpen I thought you would have still had your old one. Well if the standard procedure for most other people is cow leather with green compound it would be good to compare it to your method and if you do it on the same knife half and half I think that would make for great results aswell as a great title and thumbnail
@@GooseMilk7 oh, no that's also a non standard strop that's super thin kangaroo body leather. I don't have a normal cow leather strop.
im in CA wish i could order a kangaroo leather strop from ya. Can they not be imported to the u.s.? cheers
@@gtrzero2157 they can not be imported into California. Your Californian government forbids you from owning it.
However kangaroo products can be imported into most other states in the U.S. as far as I know.
My problem is that even though I was recently granted an export permit I have since discovered that the massive fees and miles of red tape make it a cost prohibitive exercise.
However, I am experimenting with other non restricted leathers (such as buffalo) which has a bumpy texture and am also trying to figure out how I can produce a fake texture on cow leather that will do the same thing.
I encourage you to do the same. It seems to be in the bumps. Go with that.
@iSharpen good old CA, ya that makes sense, too bad I would have purchased one. Cheers
@ yep, you and many others. I have a lot of money and time tied up in my stock. Hopefully Aussie buyers will keep stepping up and buying them.
everytime i try and strope my BESS score goes down !!1 I suck at it lol
@@viper04af what are you stripping on?
@@iSharpen stropes from sharpening supply, with 1 micro compound, also just plan leather to
@@viper04af try to source something with a bit more texture that's undyed and naturally bumpy. Sone have had similar success with buffalo hide but it must be natural and unflattened. Dying flattens it removing all the important texture. In the old days stops used to be made from horse hide with embossed ridges pressed in on purpose. Smooth strops don't seem to work as well.