Knew these videos were coming, was not looking forward too it. Most players dont need to worry about this for a long time. You're gonna have players at 2 and 3 mil tcp building these instead of war staples.
Honestly, I don't see it as a bad thing at all. I can focus on toons that actually matter more. Instead of putting things into doodoo Karnak and Quake I can build up Fury and Colson, who make a Blitz team way better by being the anchor CP. I'm at 4.9 mil, so my experience is subjective, but I think dropping bad characters from teams let you keep them at as low a CP as possible, thus improving your roster quality.
I hunted for these video's over two years ago, Id argue my account is far stronger for it. If people wanna play the game "wrong" you cant really stop them, and those who dont listen wont read this or listen as well lol. yelling into the wind my friend. And id like to point out the rate of hero drops is not slowing, mix match is gonna be the norm for most fresh accounts in this coming year. the larger the pool the harder it is to pull specific stuff.
best hybrid defense for a new team ive seen is pym tech but swap wasp for squirrel girl. a lot of people use SN on Pym SG clears everything right after strange flip. its tough
I've been using "Hydra 3.0" for awhile. RS, Zemo, Grenadier, Scientist, and Rifle Trooper. My Rifle Trooper is my highest damage dealer and they wreck Mercs.
I like YA, remove Chavez and bring in Shuri and BP. It's not quite as effective since BP got nerfed a month ago, but still usually eats a BO attack. 463k war buffed, Skirmisher on MM, Striker on Miles, BP and SG, Healer on Shuri. Gold 4 Wars
1. Swaim = swarm + aim. Gets a win once in a while when someone tries to punch up with defenders 2. Hela-loki mercs. Symbs don't work cause riot guard goes before carnage. Xforce fails unless its a big punch down 3. Pym tech with squirrel girl subbed for wasp. Basically SG proofs pym tech against SN and BH which are the 2 most common ways to deal with Pym tech. SG with young avengers is too easily power armored unless you have a 700k+ young avengers.
Thinking about this, I wouldn't be surprised if people start using jessica jones as a battery and cleanse on random squads especially if punisher and daredevil start seeing synergy elsewhere
I combined my wave 1 avengers and asgardians captain America hulk thor loki and hela. Thor gains charges still for all of them and hulk and captain gives the rest of them time to pop off
I have that same guardians hybrid team except I use Shuri instead of Minnerva. Shuri gives the 2 turns defense up right away and gives energy so Ghost and Rocket can ult turn 1. Been drawing some meta teams now to beat it
@@simz88 Def not the case at all levels, a lot of high alliances have huge symbiotes that are used inefficiently against asgardian or doc ock teams. If anything that def team just gives them a more appropriate target.
Okay first off with this Yo-yo Fury thing. When Fury summons SS, he dies pretty quickly and really only affects Yo-yo for only a turn. Yo-yo is so fast that it really doesn't matter, only that one thing in her passive is affected, her offense down. Once SS dies, which is pretty quickly, Yo-yo's OD passive is back on. I really don't know why people are so scared to use Yo-yo with Fury, it's really not as bad as people say.
@@ChessRabbitt He wont die as quick if you dont target him. Its still a tough team dont get me wrong, but my symbiotes really have no problems with them, even at that high of a level.
fyi, if you have decent asg, they will pwn emmarauders. since everyone destroys asg w/ sym, imo it's a waste to put asg and especially hela on def now... also ghost+YJ make a good combo for hybrid team. i would think stature+ghost, but in practice it's kind of 💩
@mobilegamer365 idea for a video, how about the most aggressive crossover collab video ever. swgoh (ahnald) & msf (boomer)? pros and cons of both, what you want to see implemented that's in the other game.
@@robertgp602 My bad, forgot to say, Striker for both rocket and Starlord, and groot needs to be skirmisher. Basically turn 1, the AI will use rocket special, making groot attack, giving vulnerable, rocket attacks again for striker iso, and another attack from a random guardian ally, 4 attacks with one ability. Then starlord attacks turn 1 with ultimate, gets an assist from guardian ally and random assist from random ally, basically 3 attacks, if one of those assists is groot, starlord gets another attack from striker iso, basically hitting 4 times also. So you have 2 abilities used turn one of a total of 7 or 8 depending on RNG, attacks. And the AI can play this perfect always. Ofcourse this means shit if the enemy uses brotherhood, but sometimes they don't and they get a big surprise.
@@Radicalftw For Guardians with Ghost, would you keep her with the Striker iso? I'm going to try this defense next war and looking to optimize the iso's. I would think you want Ghost to have the most assists for the turn rewind.
@@craigcrisafulli3632 well, how will the AI know how to target the 'vulnerable" target with ghost as striker? Usully you want to put ISO's that will work with the AI, if you relly on the AI to pick targets....ghost might never use that striker double hit...
@@JamieTirrock I have bro I bought them to support the channel but it just says 10,000 coins in top right corner but when I go on the game it doesn't even give me the option to use them ?
Knew these videos were coming, was not looking forward too it. Most players dont need to worry about this for a long time. You're gonna have players at 2 and 3 mil tcp building these instead of war staples.
I hope I was clear at the start about this.
Oh you were, but you know people dont pay attn to disclaimers lol
Honestly, I don't see it as a bad thing at all. I can focus on toons that actually matter more. Instead of putting things into doodoo Karnak and Quake I can build up Fury and Colson, who make a Blitz team way better by being the anchor CP. I'm at 4.9 mil, so my experience is subjective, but I think dropping bad characters from teams let you keep them at as low a CP as possible, thus improving your roster quality.
I hunted for these video's over two years ago, Id argue my account is far stronger for it. If people wanna play the game "wrong" you cant really stop them, and those who dont listen wont read this or listen as well lol. yelling into the wind my friend. And id like to point out the rate of hero drops is not slowing, mix match is gonna be the norm for most fresh accounts in this coming year. the larger the pool the harder it is to pull specific stuff.
Anywhere i can stick a 7 red star yelena ? She is utterly useless.
If you had the coulson basic t4’d you’d get wins on defence.
this is one of your best videos of 2021. i would like to see this series going forward as a quarterly status please :)
I use the dadbros on defence with ms marvel, squirrel girl, and drax... fun times!
I downloaded this game 31 days ago and I gotta say your videos helped me out, keep up the good content :)
best hybrid defense for a new team ive seen is pym tech but swap wasp for squirrel girl. a lot of people use SN on Pym SG clears everything right after strange flip. its tough
I really like that.
I made a hybrid defense that throws people off... Bishop, Kitty, Dad Bros, and Beast.
I've been using "Hydra 3.0" for awhile. RS, Zemo, Grenadier, Scientist, and Rifle Trooper. My Rifle Trooper is my highest damage dealer and they wreck Mercs.
Love my hybrid teams throws some opposition off.
I like YA, remove Chavez and bring in Shuri and BP. It's not quite as effective since BP got nerfed a month ago, but still usually eats a BO attack. 463k war buffed, Skirmisher on MM, Striker on Miles, BP and SG, Healer on Shuri. Gold 4 Wars
I've been playing dad bros with red guardian, yelena and killmonger and they're looking good so far
I like Ghost Rider, Hela, Loki, Mordo and Strange for offense, way better than regular supernaturals
What do you think about Mercs with Hela and Loki?
Love these hybrid videos!!
Thanks for showing your defense teams.
Offense Zemo grenadier RS dad bros can punch up huge on marauders. Also doom version
1. Swaim = swarm + aim. Gets a win once in a while when someone tries to punch up with defenders
2. Hela-loki mercs. Symbs don't work cause riot guard goes before carnage. Xforce fails unless its a big punch down
3. Pym tech with squirrel girl subbed for wasp. Basically SG proofs pym tech against SN and BH which are the 2 most common ways to deal with Pym tech. SG with young avengers is too easily power armored unless you have a 700k+ young avengers.
swarm in place of who, on AIM?
@@wizzopqresearcher or monstrosity. Whichever you were using as 5th.
@@davidalexander3320 thanks!
So I should put these together before working on my offense teams. Got it!
Thinking about this, I wouldn't be surprised if people start using jessica jones as a battery and cleanse on random squads especially if punisher and daredevil start seeing synergy elsewhere
Syms clear that easy, eye closed which leave Inhumans to clear assguards then BO on Mauraders or Dadbros on them
Man I’m level 69 and have fully invested in defense. I have symbiotes and half a brotherhood team half a supernatural team for offense.
i chucked my doc-oc in with asguardians instead of Thor (my SS are weak AF atm)
450k team got me 5 victories, including a 500k symbiote combat cancel
Sif needs to be behind Drax in the corner for your Asgardians on War D.
Why don't you swap your taskmaster with merc lt?That way taskmaster is in less vulnerable position,also kilmonger will benefit from merc lt heal?
Aim + HT( if use f4tron on offense)
Also cm young avenger if you put shuri take out miles, pa will fail.
Pymtech swap wasp for vision.
Loki and hela also mix in with mercs
I combined my wave 1 avengers and asgardians captain America hulk thor loki and hela. Thor gains charges still for all of them and hulk and captain gives the rest of them time to pop off
Im using red guardian in asg instead of drax and thor with avengers with success for both teams.
I like this!
@@OhEmGee Have seen a lot of nasty merc/asg combos too. Using hela and loki with MRG, merc lt. and TM
I use my 120k yondu to force people to still use symbiotes against them lol
I like baron zemo,taskmaster,shuri,longshot,and shatterstar
Can we elaborate a bit on that shuri dad bro ultron thingy????
I have that same guardians hybrid team except I use Shuri instead of Minnerva. Shuri gives the 2 turns defense up right away and gives energy so Ghost and Rocket can ult turn 1. Been drawing some meta teams now to beat it
Pretty cool
Nice keep going
I have my inhumans with my 200k captain marvel and miss marvel on defense lmao. If it gets a BO it's a good enough win for me.
I just started playing 2 month's ago. How much money are you spending to get to this level?
Can get there for free but it'll take about 3 years. Or longer if you're a casual player.
I’ve seen NFC with dad bros and it causes some alarm
mid game player and we don't come close to full clearing so I don't have to worry about hybrid teams for a long time lol.
I'm the same but recently seeing hybrids... especially containing red guardian and shuri
Lmao i think u faced valleyflyin's alliance :D
How do you see the individual battles that take place in war
you need to go into the room while the war is still ongoing and hit the history button.
I placed only two teams on defense and all teams are for offense
Hate to bring this up, but Symbiotes completely manhandle the inhuman shield team. Especially if fury summons a shield Sec, it eliminates yoyo
Yup
Its a win if that team soaks up a symbiotes...
@@simz88 Def not the case at all levels, a lot of high alliances have huge symbiotes that are used inefficiently against asgardian or doc ock teams. If anything that def team just gives them a more appropriate target.
Okay first off with this Yo-yo Fury thing.
When Fury summons SS, he dies pretty quickly and really only affects Yo-yo for only a turn. Yo-yo is so fast that it really doesn't matter, only that one thing in her passive is affected, her offense down. Once SS dies, which is pretty quickly, Yo-yo's OD passive is back on.
I really don't know why people are so scared to use Yo-yo with Fury, it's really not as bad as people say.
@@ChessRabbitt He wont die as quick if you dont target him. Its still a tough team dont get me wrong, but my symbiotes really have no problems with them, even at that high of a level.
fyi, if you have decent asg, they will pwn emmarauders. since everyone destroys asg w/ sym, imo it's a waste to put asg and especially hela on def now... also ghost+YJ make a good combo for hybrid team. i would think stature+ghost, but in practice it's kind of 💩
some hybrid teams with zemo plz that beats emm
Just too many attack teams. Soaking up a big team doesn't slow anything. Maybe super big d on 2nd level
@mobilegamer365 idea for a video, how about the most aggressive crossover collab video ever. swgoh (ahnald) & msf (boomer)? pros and cons of both, what you want to see implemented that's in the other game.
Think he did this in the end, good call :)
Have u tried Hela Loki mercs?
I'm using hela loki with dr strange mordo and ghost rider
@@ashmartin19 do they get DVs?
@@michaeloconitrillo985 X Force beat them easier than normal Mercs because minion dying gives turn meter to x23 every time it drops
@@tyraz3802 does XF easily kill Hela Loki Strange Mordo & GR?
@@michaeloconitrillo985 that's an offensive team, so it should never come across X force lol
Ofc your guardians never won, when you have raider on rocket and starlord, such a waste of the 4 tap combo that the AI can do.
Good call. I haven’t looked at iso for this team since it came out. Thaaaaank yooou.
What iso should they be then?
@@robertgp602 My bad, forgot to say, Striker for both rocket and Starlord, and groot needs to be skirmisher. Basically turn 1, the AI will use rocket special, making groot attack, giving vulnerable, rocket attacks again for striker iso, and another attack from a random guardian ally, 4 attacks with one ability. Then starlord attacks turn 1 with ultimate, gets an assist from guardian ally and random assist from random ally, basically 3 attacks, if one of those assists is groot, starlord gets another attack from striker iso, basically hitting 4 times also. So you have 2 abilities used turn one of a total of 7 or 8 depending on RNG, attacks. And the AI can play this perfect always. Ofcourse this means shit if the enemy uses brotherhood, but sometimes they don't and they get a big surprise.
@@Radicalftw For Guardians with Ghost, would you keep her with the Striker iso? I'm going to try this defense next war and looking to optimize the iso's. I would think you want Ghost to have the most assists for the turn rewind.
@@craigcrisafulli3632 well, how will the AI know how to target the 'vulnerable" target with ghost as striker? Usully you want to put ISO's that will work with the AI, if you relly on the AI to pick targets....ghost might never use that striker double hit...
Please can any one help me as I have just bought Amazon coins but cannot get them to be able to use on MSF
Did you download amazon appstore ?
@@JamieTirrock I have bro I bought them to support the channel but it just says 10,000 coins in top right corner but when I go on the game it doesn't even give me the option to use them ?
Try to do all the step in the websites, maybe you're missing something
I put ghost in place of Sabertooth on Emmarauders and my 629k team got a def win against a 708k BO
Ghost, Nebula, X23, Yellow Jacket, Minerva.
Nooo he show his defense. Well no wonder they him a boomer
I always prefer my hybrid teams being conservative over liberal. 👌👌
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