Which telescope to buy?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 2 มิ.ย. 2024
- Below are some of the telescopes I've used in recent years, ranging from ~30 -3000 dollars. (shortened for YTs character limits)
What would I get if I was buying now?
-Ive included amazon affiliates links to telescope I've owned and would recommend below (for different niches!)
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Im currently in a city (bad sky pollution) which means I can only really do planetary observations.
The 5in maksutov is perfect for this. Long focal length gives good magnification on planets.
The German equatorial mount is MUCH easier to set up than alt-az mounts that require star alignment. The GE you can just put down and more or less be ready to go. The telescope is compact, and easily transportable.
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If I had decent skies, I would start with a dobsonian. Cheap, lots of light gathering, lots of resolution. Bulky telescopes- no tracking, but v. easy to set up and start with.
6in is the minimum size I would go for. Easily portable, capable scope.
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8in is getting a bit bulky, but almost twice the light gathering of the 6in.
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10in and 12in are getting right to the limit of what one guy can handle, but at the end of the day, more mirror means you can see fainter thing!
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If you want to try your hand at astrophotography, the scts are the way to go. 8in is easily handleable and probably the best compromise between size and portability.
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the 11in version Ive got is a BEAST!
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Price $35
76mm reflector dobsonian mounted (Celestron Firstscope)
Weight ~ 1kg (a couple of pounds)
Setup time ~0
East of Transport 1
Short focal length- wide angle field of view. Finder not really necessary.
Ultra cheap, good views of Moon, Jupiter Venus, rings of Saturn, bright, wide separation double stars, and brighter deep sky objects such as M13. I was not particularly impressed with the optics on mine, but for 35 bucks, you cant complain too much!
Price $200
90mm Maksutov-Cassegrain, dobsonian mount (Orion Apex)
Weight ~ 1kg (a couple of pounds)
Setup time ~0
East of Transport 1
Longer focal length means smaller field of view for comparable eye pieces. I was impressed with this scope on the planets. It vastly outperforms the Firstscope on optics. The scope comes off the dobsonian mount on a quick release and can be mounted as a spotter scope (the main reason I got it). The dobsonian mount here (one arm) is exactly the same as the mount for the Firstscope. These are sort of the poor mans refractor. Great views of Moon and all the bright planets. Picked out Titan (brightest moon of saturn) with ease. I got this telescope for two reasons, firstly for outreach, in that you can just grab it and point it in seconds, zero setup time. Secondly I can mount it piggyback on the CPC11 (see below) and use it as a spotting/ guide scope.
The Maksutov has the 'nice' feature that its a closed tube(helps keep dust out). The Mak. will have the edge on planets/ guidescope etc due to its longer focal length, but the Newtonian will be more all around bang for the buck.
Price $600
10in Newtonian reflector, dobsonian mount (Celestron Starhopper)
Weight ~ 15kg (~30lbs)
Setup time ~10 mins to carry parts outside, 10 mins + cool down.
East of Transport: Telescope is about the size of a small child (although not that heavy). It is big and awkward. Difficult to handle for the small. Almost the biggest telescope you can fit in a compact car (the reason I got it).
The long open optical train requires periodic alignment (columniation) if it is frequently transported. Powerful deep-sky scope. Near zero photographic potential, but fantastic views of nebula, globular clusters and galaxies. Great scope for planets too. At this size the moon is getting too bright to look at for any length of time. Like most big newtonians, short focal ratio, which pragmatically means you get quite wide angle views. Again well suited to deep sky observing.
Price $1500
90mm (3.5in) Stellarvue apochromat, -no mount, tube only (Apo Triplet)
Weight ~ 4kg (~8lbs)
East of Transport: The telescope is small and easy to transport. Comes with a bag that will go on an airplane as hand baggage.
Worth the price for the aperture? Probably not unless you are in a fairly specific niche.
This makes a great wide angle lenses for guided photography. As a guidescope its focal length is kind of short. That basically means the field of view for a given eye piece is wide. You need a very short focal length eye piece to get good magnification. I found myself using a 4mm eyepiece to look at planets, and even at that the image was small. - วิทยาศาสตร์และเทคโนโลยี
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I'll still never forget the first time I ever saw the rings of Saturn through a telescope. Definitely one of the highlights of my life.
I agree. I first saw Saturn in a Celestron 4 inch achromatic refractor. Amazing to actually see it for first time.
Kinda like the first time I saw Uranus!
@Mason Bee i almost everday see the saturn by heritage 100p 10mm eyepice but it small need 6 mm eyepice to close it
Same here, need to get some filters to get my Camera able to capture the magnificence of the the Gas Giants and ideally Mars
There are so many legit , nice comments and some 5 years old laughing at Uranus. It is Uranos or Ur(a)nus correctly pronunciated.
Seeing the Andromeda galaxy first ever (10yrs ago) was something that made me think about our life and what we do here. It's a whole other galaxy with its own stars and planets. It can be life changing to a point to rethink our existence.
the video on a whole was pretty informational and well put. I especially loved the graph of cost v. aperture and would like to see an updated and more detailed one. thank you
Please do an updated version!
+Josh Flynn scopes really haven't changed
+SeeWaffle9
Cost per Aperture has gone up.
Goto on Dobs now is much more common.
A new Star Wars movie is almost here!!
+Josh Flynn Hi there, If you need more information please have a look at this telescope guide for more information:
www.ebay.co.uk/gds/Choosing-Your-First-Telescope-for-Astronomy-Complete-Essentials-/10000000013136783/g.html
+78 Tranz Am Man The movie was garbage
Question ? I loved it.
I bought my Celestron C8 back in 1980. It was the last toy I bought for myself before my son was born. It still works as well now as it did then. It's not too hard to carry around and gives great images. I never got into Astrophotography, but it would do well if I did. It was a little expensive, but its almost 40 years old now and that amount over 4 decades means my annual investment has been less than $30/year in my hobby. That's pretty cheap!!! ...and considering eventually one of my kids or grandkids or great grandkids will probably get several decades of use out of it as well means that over a hundred years, my investment will drop to as little as $10/year!!! I see no reason why this scope couldn't last at least that long...if not longer!!! It may very well be my best life investment!!! ...and it never argues with me like my wife does. I can do minimal maintenance and it just keeps working and working. Just try to expect that type of return on any other purchase you make and you'll see that there are likely very few that will serve you as well.
Excellent presentation...Very valuable for us who are very very amateur...
Very helpful video, thanks! Also, I love the time lapse sequence following Jupiter.
If I pay $3000 for a telescope, I better be able to see the Lord.
Lol
Shit's Probably Fake LOL
Shit's Probably Fake omg lol you made my night
You'll find a paid actor.
Shit's Probably Fake AMEN
great voice , that was a soothing 7 minutes of telescope knowledge for me
Yeah, he should really narrate a book or a documentary or something.
Convinced I’m listening to David Bowie 😅⚡️
Well put my thoughts exactly
Yes, I really liked how he says "pain in the ass"...very classy.
Same, makes me wanna haul out my Nexstar 130slt tonight to try an spot some stuff
Ahh if only England wasnt so cloudy 24/7
I love cloudy days, I might go to pommy land.
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@Greg Moonen Yea in the 50's, until Peru out did the UK like 6 years later.
A cheap equatorial telescope with a motordrive that follow the stars is a good choice for the amateur that wish to develop later on. Perhaps a 80 or 100mm reffractor or a 4-6 inch newtonian. Go for a motordriven scope. You can photograph the stars! :)
@@traderfx4871 - An overgrown toy! Hardly a serious amateur telecscope
One of the best, informative and entertaining telescope advice videos I have ever seen. Really excellent, thank you.
Very nice video covering the basics for us beginner stargazers thank you Thunderf00t.
I fuckin love this guy. I can listen to him read the white pages of the phone book.
Now thats funny!
Fantastically explained in crisp clear way!!
your photos/videos of the cosmos are quite amazing, thanks for sharing these videos, cheers from san diego
Thank you for taking the time to make this video. I thought it was well done and found it helpful.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts on telescopes.
This might be my favorite video you have ever made. Thank you.
One of the best videos I have seen for potential or new stargazers. Good job.
Thanks for the effort you put into this video. Very helpful. Much appreciated.
"The earth's rotation is kind of a bitch"
OMG I about died, I think I've said that to myself on many occasions.
From a star enthusiast and a telescope newbie, thank you. :)
EXCELLENT!! Many thanks for this. Pitched at the exact level I needed.
perfect timing for this!! a new telescope is all i wanted this holiday season, and between you and tdarnell, i have some great options to consider! thanks
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Did anyone else think that the telescope was going to move to the left?
wow
Don’t you dare put up comments like this. Just think about what you’ve done.
you mean 5:21? because at 5:19 It IS moving to the left if you mean the front end and the left side of the Video.
I'm looking to buy a Hubble space telescope, how much would that cost me? And how do I get it into space?
It would cost you 2-3 Billion bucks,maybe have a guy smuggle it onboard a space shuttle and have it released once your above the Exopshere
+Sotiris Krol And for extra authenticity, don't forget to include a few errors in the primary mirror so that you'll have to spend more money to get this problem sorted out.
+Sotiris Krol
If he waits about 25 years they will come down massively in price to about 100 million.
At that point we will have massive telescopes in space and on the moon. Every country will have access to one and he can rent it out for a few thousand dollars.
Jesus2ndCousin that way you can also get to space walk ;)
Superior Planet it is quite common, if not the norm, to use up most of your fuel on launch. Getting off of the earth takes a massive amount of delta-V. Once you're in orbit around the earth it takes rather little to actually land. You only need to kill your orbit and have enough delta-V to slow down and control your descent which will be entirely powered by gravity. Landing and takeoff on something like the moon takes a lot less delta-V because the moon has less gravity than earth and also you don't have to deal with pesky atmospheric resistance.
tl;dr: play some Kerbal Space Program.
I was wondering when you were going to make this video. Very informative thank you very much for posting it.
Excellent video. Been interested in buying a telescope for ages and after your video i now know what im looking for. Thanks and keep up the good work.
9yrs of TH-cam turned you from this amazing man to a narked out troll beater. Bring back this man. Sooooo pleasent to listen to 👌🏻
Shush
if you mention "youtube" they'll probably ban his video with no explanation as with his other ones lol, they have a thing for him
Magnification is actually a big factor for faint extended objects (planets, nebulae, galaxies - anything that's not a point source like a star), but it's tied directly to aperture.
Telescopes cannot make extended objects brighter than they are to your naked eye. The best they can do is match it, before subtracting light loss in the system (lens absorption, mirror scattering, etc.). This highest possible brightness (which is still dimmer than your naked eye) is when the exit pupil of the eyepiece is exactly the same size as your eye's entrance pupil. We're talking about ratios here, so that happens when the aperture divided by the magnification matches your dark-adapted pupil size (typically 7mm). So a 12" scope, with an aperture of 305mm, can magnify extended objects by up to 305mm/7mm = ~43x before it becomes dimmer. Above that, you're spreading the same amount of light over a larger area, so it's dimmer. Below that, you're failing to collect all the light (the beam of light leaving the eyepiece is too large for your eye to completely capture), so it's still no brighter than your naked eye (less, accounting for light loss in the system).
The reason extended objects are better in bigger telescopes is precisely because you can magnify them more without making them dimmer, so your eye is able to spread the image over more photoreceptors. In a 4" telescope, the maximum magnification you can use before making a nebula dimmer is 101mm/7mm = ~14x, which makes for a much smaller image that your eye has more difficulty resolving into detail.
So magnification does matter, but you need aperture to make it count.
Oh, point sources like stars do actually get brighter as aperture goes up, because you're collecting more light and putting it in the same spot (they're so far away they have no resolvable size), so you see more stars in a bigger telescope. And that's true up to the point where you have such a larger aperture that you're able to resolve the star into an extended image, at which point more aperture would just mean a larger image before dimming again. No amateur telescope is anywhere near big enough to do that, though.
You just may want to keep the exit pupil smaller than the entrance pupil of the eye so that all the light still goes into the eye. But this effect occurs with the low magnifications, not high. For example, if you have a large 200 mm telescope and a very low magnification of 20, you will get an exit pupil of 10 mm (>7 mm), which means that you won't use the whole aperture of the telescope.
The smaller exit pupil itself doesn't make the objects dimmer, the light still goes in the eye and is focused onto the retina. Larger telescopes simply gain more light and make objects brighter. The problem is that the surface brightness falls with the magnification. And from a specific magnification, the object is just not bright enough against the dark sky and appears ugly (and there are some other effects with high magnifications).
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Very good detailed video, the presentation was great!
This is an excellent description of what matters, and what doesn't, when selecting the optimum telescope for your needs
Because of this video I recently purchased my first telescope, and roused my interest in astronomy. For the first time I was able to see things like Jupiter, and Saturn with my own eyes, something not so amazing to more experienced amateur astronomers, but amazing to myself, seeing as how I've only seen these planets through video and pictures. Thanks Thunderf00t.
Hello, thanks for the informative video. Since 6 years passed from your video and there is more new models, do you still recommend 90mm Maksutov-Cassegrain, dobsonian mount (Orion Apex) for beginners that have 200 dollars budget? Thanks.
This is awesome! Thanks for the vid and the knowledge! Excellent!
thanks for this, TF. I'm thinking about getting one but had no idea what to look for. this is great
I watch this video 8 years later and find that the orion skyquest xt10 is now 120$ more expensive. Sucks.
Nice to see my all time favourite warrior hater, rationalist, scientist, debunker and free-thinker doing such a great public service from all the way back in 2010 helping his subbies today choose a Christmas gift for their warrior hater, rationalist, scientist, debunking and free-thinking kids :)
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Nice information. I have had my telescope for many years, but it is still good to get this information again.
Cool video. I remember you saying a long while back you were going to make this. Helpful, thanks.
"the best telescope is the one used more often" -- this is what I learned during my 15 years of stargazing journey.
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A few words from one who has been using telescopes for 50 years.
I've had everting from a 50 mm Trasko up to a $4500 mMead 12 inch SCT.
If you just want to dip your toe in the water for a test, I'd recommend the Edmund Astroscan - Mirror slighty over 4 inches and a short focal length you can oberve f15X up to 200X with a good eypiece and on very clere nights I have viewed thousands of moon craters and shadows at 300X
Whatever you decide, Figure 5X per inch of arpeture of main mirror or lense in a refractor. The Astroscan cost a bit over $300 but they are well worth it.
AND they are simplicity like you won't believe.
Sit in a lawn chair with a pillow in your lap and your astroscan on your pillow and take a great tour around the sky.
Thanks for your recommendation.
thunderfoot: thanks for introducing me to the firstscope a few months back. Excellent purchase and highly recommended.
This was very helpful and those scopes are genuinely beautiful
Thunderfoot I didnt know you were an astronomy nerd. cool :)
How does he do the time-lapse photography?
Lots of practical information, smart presentation, lack of needless chitchat. Very good video indeed!
Good speaking voice, and the clearest introduction to choice of telescope I have come across.. wel done.
Celestron firstscope is now $50! Why'd they up the price?
Hi..What telescope would you recommend to me .to see stars,planets,solar system....I'm a beginner suggest me a telescope between 180-130 us dollars... as good as possible.....
Subhankar Roy I use the Celestron Nexstar 130 SLT. But for a telescope that is between $180-$130 USD I recommend the Celestron Explorascope 114AZ Telescope. I do not own one, but I have a friend who does, and it is a very good telescope in my opinion for looking at planets and double stars. I hope I my reply is helpful for you.
Jack Benner, I have a Celestron Nexstar 130SLT, and highly recommend it as a starter scope
Did you watch the video?
Finally a useful video on telescopes!
I hope some of the next ones will be on how to use them most efficiently.
All the best!
Great tutorial.... I ended up with a Celestron Evolution 6" for a compact, lightweight go-to rig. I've added a mid-range ZWO camera, EAF auto focus and ASIAIR controller for indoor tablet use. It's a long way from a Dob, but hopefully will hold my grandkids attention.
Sooo what I got out of this is buy a good pair of binoculars and call it a night!
Yes, unless U R Sirius about this astronomical subject! :D
But what do you think of the amazing new EVScope?
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What does Reee mean?
@@ElenarMT reeeeeee meme
please dont buy a EVscope many people say its a scam so yea
Thanks for the information! I'm about to buy a start scope for my kids and I to observe the sky. This was super useful information!
Thanks for posting this Phil. I was looking for a way to describe scopes and their differences for my friend who is getting interested in astronomy and I didn't want to spend all day telling him. Your presentation is spot on for the most part and made my job easy! After showing him my Newtonian reflector and my refractor(both Meade) he could see some of the differences, IE: chromatic aberration, atmospheric turbulence etc... and what details and knowledge are involved in polar aligning an electronic scope. I think I have convinced him on a good truss style Dobsonian and an atlas for learning the sky before he goes out and plunks down big bucks for a scope he will likely become frustrated with and maybe never use.
I just want to know which telescope should I buy if I want to see jupiter or venus clearly and closely?
8 inch dobsodian
3:00 TFW the dudes view finder is the same size as my hobby scope
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Hey, thanks for this. I've been seriously considering getting myself a good telescope, but wasn't quite sure where to start. This helps a lot.
Thanks for the explenation. Im looking to buy a scope just to pass time and your explanation will help me. You have a great voice tone BTW very agreeable. You sound like Jeremy Irons.
everytime I see comic sans I giggle.
+Mr.chang cooler lol
+Comic Sans giggle
Everytime I see Comic Sans I stop taking people serious 😉
Wouldn’t be a cosmic sans...I’ll see myself out
COMIC SAAAANSSSS the meme of all fonts.
so if i want to look at galaxies which one to buy?
Dobsonian 8 inch or 12 inch goto mount are better result on no light pollution ) kindda heavy but result image are reeeeee amazing if put right eyepice like 30mm or 25 if get low magnification or binocular 15×70 ) but telescope more better collect light so i think heritage 130p better for beginers
But how you house? And you budget is that problem
If you want galaxies, the most important thing is getting to a dark site without light pollution. You can use cheap 10x magnification binoculars with a 50mm aperture, and view our closest neighbor, the Andromeda galaxy, no problem. If you are looking for a telescope though, aperture rules, and the best bang for your buck is a Newtonian reflector type telescope.
@@bluesteelbass hahahha bincular 10×50 ? That good for birdwatching (astronomy binocular better like 15x70,12×60 22×100 and just remember telescope reflector better for deep sky object like 130mm or 250m again the 50,70,80,100mm apeture
@@detectiveamevirus8 With a remark like you posted, I can easily and safely assume not only have you never tried to utilize 10x50 binoculars for astronomical viewing, but you also have never utilized larger "astronomy" binoculars. Good luck trying to get a stable image with a handheld 20x80... Unless you purchase at minimum $100+ tripod to mount those things on.
The best video ever on youtube. Wish every body had to sense to put things that simple. Kudos that one fan u got here ;)
I like your educational videos, it's a nice change of pace.
flat-earthers still can't handel the truth
Bet they can spell "handle", though.
He might be referring to the German musician. I'm not sure exactly what it would mean to Handel someone. Perhaps to inundate with water music.
or the german word for trade
Ninety-One Doesn't even apply here.
unfl4tt3r3rd putting people in a box for being tired of cgi planets lol that's why I'm buying a telescope
Anyone from the BUSTED video in 2019?
3:30 ayyy I bought that telescope on the left several years back and it has been great for my needs.
Awesome video! Honest and straight to the points.
Godamn if I’m paying 3,000 for a telescope I should just be able to click a button and have it point immediately to the planet I want to view! Whilst also telling me all about what I’m seeing voiced by Neil degrasse Tyson who is sitting right next to me!
i actually laughed out loud. funny guy.
Comic sans?? What was this 2010? Oh it was... ok carry on
Thanks for that info, much appreciated .
Thank you for this video I'm going to hopefully up upgrade my telescope soon great advice..🌙🌟🌙👍
this video kind of sucks for people new to telescope and astronomy..
Why?
it is from 2010 and all it is saying is bigger is better and smaller is worse. Except for in mobility, cool down times, and ease of setup. Doesn't explain which telescope to buy at all.
I'm 16 love physics, and space. Never seen through a telescope; cuz I'm broke and can't afford a good one
does this telescope is good www.cdiscount.com/photo-numerique/materiel-observation/skywatcher-newton-130-900-sur-equatoriale-eq2/f-1124003-sky6930096600058.html?idOffre=82833995?rr_product=true&recommendationRef=&recommender=SimilarProductsApi&InteractedPlacementId=Internal_SP#faqs
Excellent video, many thanks!
Great advice, I'm in the process of bying myself a telescope, this helped a lot!
its a shame you didn't do as much research is to cars lol
Who cares what a person drives
+Teren Essex every one cares m8 I as well as you came here to see learn about the best scopes . it's just my sense of humour bit dry I have a shit car but it works sort of
I think the word you're looking for to describe your sense of humour is "non-existant", not "dry".
+andrewford80 Andrew Ford the keyboard warrior , you probably got a shit car to
If you consider me making a joke about your non-existant sense of humour "warrior" behaviour then I sure wouldn't want to bump in to you in a dark alley! Who knows what personal attacks you might unleash! BTW, I don't own a car! By choice :)
I have the skyquest and it is AMAZING! I can easily see the rings on Saturn and see the moon in COMPLETE detail....its a great buy and I plan on enjoying it for years to come.
Thank you. Very well thought-out presentation and my experience of 20 plus years observing tracks your recommendations quite closely.
My favorite "lookin'" scope was an 18" dob--an "Obsesssion clone". Sold that when I moved overseas. Now that I am back, I have acquired a good robotic German EQ mount. I will mount a scope of good quality to it--perhaps an Orion 8" Ritchey-Chretien, and utilize the mount's capability to conduct supernova searches.
I really can't recommend amateur astronomy too highly. The experiences I've had and people I've met have changed profoundly the way I see the universe. The simple act of making a telescope mirror will teach one volumes about one's self.
Which brings me to my point: One aspect of the hobby missing (understandably) from your video is ATM (Amateur Telescope Making). This aspect of the hobby can yield fantastic results in terms of getting the most aperture for the dollar (or pound, etc.)spent. The best entry into this domain is through your local astronomical society. ATM is probably one of the most interesting aspects of astronomy. Cutting edge, relatively inexpensive and very, very rich in practical experience. I've met ATM enthusiasts whose experience gained enabled them access to work on NASA projects (James Webb Space Telescope, for example) and university level observatories. A 40-inch Newtonian reflector was recently put into operation for public use about an hour's drive from my home in California. It was constructed by volunteers with an interest in Amateur Telecope Making.
If you get a chance, hook up with some ATM'ers and hold on to your hat. It's a wild ride.
Good information. Thank you. Finding objects and lining up the scope can be a real headache even if you have some knowledge and skill, often even if you know where the object is, even if you are looking at it! I look forward to using a Go To.
Nice informative video. I have never had a telescope before so so far all my stargazing has been the "flop on the ground and look up" kind.
Thanks always enjoy all your videos
Excellent video and excellent guide in the video info! Thank you so much!!
My first scope is the Orion 6I and its is great. Setsup quick and the "Push-to" feature is accurate and quick. Once calibrated at assembly, it is beautiful!
Very good video, well explained for someone just starting out.
Thank you, that was very informative.
That's really good information. Thank you🔭☺️
My thanks for this Thunderfoot. Very clearly explained. I hope you will make and post more videos on this and other subjects for beginning stargazers such as myself and my wife.
Cheers,
PineMartyn
This was a well done video and a pleasure to view. Thanks.
That was very useful information, thank you for doing this video.
Excellent guide, thank you
thanks thunder for the info. I'm getting one for my brother. for his birthday. I was confused about the one to get him, but this vid has helped me make up my mind.
Excellent vid, hope to see more.......Peace
Thanks for this video, I’m a young beginner and this video was extremely helpful! You gained a sub and a like!
This is exactly what I needed to be happy!
Thanks Thunderfood! Happy holidays!
glad to see you've gone back to these kind of vids mate
thank you, good overview!
Thank you so much for the video, explained a lot to me....and made me re-think my purchase for an absolute beginner. Nexstar 8se it is then.
a really nice, useful and educational video.
thank you for your time and knowledge, dear Sir !
Thanks for the clear advice and info!!