Jon-I love this log rack and I am building my own this morning using your plans. However, unless I am reading it wrong, the list of lumber seems to omit the two 12-ft 2x6 pieces used on the frame itself.
Thank you for this video and your hard work to design this log rack. I’m putting a prairie in my yard in Wisconsin, cutting down an ash tree and splitting all the logs for winter burning. We will be making your log rack this week.
My dad always made these out of old pallets and they did the trick my whole childhood even though he had to build a new one every fall when we stacked firewood
Great video Jon! I need to make me one of those. The only difference is that I would need it covered in order to keep the wood dry. Guess I will have to figure that out. Thanks for the free plans....👍👍😉😉
@Jon Peters Your lawn does indeed look good...appreciate it everytime I roll by on bike heading home from the trails. Hope to see you on the trails again! Just converted to Jonathan Green this year---Love Your Soil; Mag i Cal; Black Beauty Original; and Green Up for seeding and sodding. Love the 4ft root depth for the grass...can't wait. Hope all is well bro.
How far into the board are you driving your screws? Is there a recommended depth? Edit: after some research most if not all say to drive the screw either flush Or 1/6” below the surface of the wood. Are you aware of anything different or are you ‘In the Zone’ and doing your man thing? (I do this as well until I catch myself) Edit #2 - I have added a roof on my three rakes. The wood stays dry and bakes in the heat. Love you design!
yeah... most of his screws aren't holding much. Flush or just under surface is your goal. This video shows what happens when you have a fresh battery on your impact drill blasting screws into wood lol.
Hello again Jon. You said there were free plans. Where do I find the plans? I have looked high, low and in the middle and have not found them. I am looking forward to starting the project!!
Bro., I mean who da hell doesn't love a big ass pile of split wood to burn. The rack is simple, effective & just enough design element to separate it from just being defined as a bunch of dimensional lumber screwed together... Hoping all is well Bud, Dirty Jersey out!!
I admire your craftsmanship. This is one solid rack!. I would have taken it one step further. The legs touching the ground would benefit greatly if they had been placed on top of a 12"x12" concrete "stepping stone". I'm only talking about an added $20 to an already ridiculously priced rack. Just my $.02...
OK Jon, I went out to Brock Farm and picked up a 50lb bag of Black Beauty Original. We had to start from Dirt because the septic was changed out. We added Love Your Soil because we have a little clay. We needed something and your Sponcer supplied the perfect choice. I didn't know that Jonathan Green was over here in Farmingdale, NJ
Hi Jon another great video, you mentioned the logs now are off the ground and drying out, what if it rains? Are you going to put a roof type covering over the logs in case it rains? Thanks Jon
It depends somewhat on the climate. But the curing of green firewood is something that happens at a cellular level in the wood. Even wood left out in the rain will cure (dry out internally) over time. Maybe in a true rainforest climate it wouldn't dry. But where I live it is possible to season firewood without a cover. I do transfer it to a covered rack near the house before I actually burn it, though. Even though the internal moisture is gone, it is hard to get a fire started with logs that are wet on the outside. Once it is going, wet logs will steam off and burn just fine as long as they are just wet on the outside. Burning green firewood is pretty difficult and often the fire just doesn't seem to get going. But you can have a good fire with cured firewood that is just wet on the outside, once you get it started.
@@tomjefferson5431 I disagree. I have left wood stacked and uncovered and it grows mould in between where the wood contacts other pieces. If covered this would not be significant and would dry out, but my experience is that it must be covered (at least where I live).
Great video, I burn wood for heat so I am looking forward to building your double deep wood rack. Have you put together a shopping list for the Materials that will be needed. Thanks and keep up the good work..
This is like a $400 wood rack. Super nice, but as stated earlier, wayyy too complicated. If it's that complex, it should have some cross bars to support a tarp or tin as a weather guard.
I got all the way to 7:30 and then he mentions using the table saw. I need to build a firewood shed and I don't have a table saw. I wish there were a way around that without trying to rip a 2x4 with a circular saw.
@@JonPetersArtHome Thanks. Seems like a long length, though. I'd have to be really careful about keeping the wood stable and the saw steady. I'm always careful with power tools, but this goes into super-cautious territory.
Question: Why use deck screws, which have no structural strength, and then add lag bolts later? Why not just ust GRK structural screws and be done with it? No drilling and bolting needed.
How come no roof? I bet with support from top, you wouldn't have to you such a heavy pieces of wood in the ends. Looks like a bit too much as most of the weight is going down and only some to the sides.
Stacked to the top of the side supports with no gap between stacks,. it will hold about 155 cubic feet or 1.2 cords of wood. So, subtract a little for gap and not stacking all the way to the top, it should hold around a cord of wood.
Wow, a tad overkill with joinery, lag-bolts, screws, 2x6’s and 4x4 legs. Don’t get me wrong it’s very nice, but that’s a very pricey way wood storage. When one could just use 4 cinder blocks and a few 2x4’s and get the same outcome. Why not add a roof too since you’re going all out. Nice project tho.
That's not really how wood dries. The reason to dry or season firewood is to dry out the inside of the log/piece. If you've ever seen rain on a wood deck, the superficial water or water left on the surface evaporates really quickly and the board itself isn't sopping wet. If it's recently rained, then starting a fire with damp wood isn't easy but throwing some onto an already burning fire wouldn't really affect it.
Yes I agree with Andy. Green cut wood may be something like 70 percent moisture by weight. If you leave it out in the elements (but off the ground) to cure it will still dry out to 30 or even less percent moisture by weight. I mean, I am not sure if you can do that in a rainforest or whatever. But in many places it will cure (internally dry out) even if it gets rained on.
Agree, I was going to start a shop build project on my property a few months ago, but I'm putting it off for now because of covid lumber prices. 4x4x12 treated are $30 now!
Not you too Jon Peters. Is it a trend for TH-cam Woodworkers to misuse the word EITHER? 6:02 and 6:32. The word EITHER is used when you're referring to one or the other. Key word OR. In your case and like so many others, it should have been BOTH sides. Or EACH side. Sorry about the comment but i just had to get that out there. Other than my little pet peave, I've always enjoyed your videos and have been a subscriber for a few years already. Keep up the good work and great content.
Looks stronger than the metal tube one I bought at a home center!! Ha ha! Thanks Jon. Gotta go seed my lawn now.
If you like heavy and expensive firewood racks these are perfect.
I built mine with free wood.
Hi all, Free Plans for this project are available here: jonpeters.com/build-a-double-sided-log-rack/ Have a great weekend! Jon
Jon-I love this log rack and I am building my own this morning using your plans. However, unless I am reading it wrong, the list of lumber seems to omit the two 12-ft 2x6 pieces used on the frame itself.
The best thing about Jonathan Green is they spell Jonathan correctly...
The very best think about Jonathan Green is: the green.
Great design. And I guess you have a good sponsor here, because I am weirdly looking forward to that lawn maintenance video.
You do a great job not teaching gimmicky things
Thank you for this video and your hard work to design this log rack. I’m putting a prairie in my yard in Wisconsin, cutting down an ash tree and splitting all the logs for winter burning. We will be making your log rack this week.
Best workshop I’ve seen wow. Would love that 😮
My dad always made these out of old pallets and they did the trick my whole childhood even though he had to build a new one every fall when we stacked firewood
Great video Jon! I need to make me one of those. The only difference is that I would need it covered in order to keep the wood dry. Guess I will have to figure that out. Thanks for the free plans....👍👍😉😉
Nothing says strength and longevity like a notched-in post. 👌🏻👍🏻
Very nice. Wish I saw this before I bought and cut all my wood today 🤔
I do need to plant some grass at the house someday.. the shade seed would probably be good too. Our yard gets very little sunshine.
I love your lawn...
Using the square as a fence for the circular saw is a great idea that I’ll definitely be using going forward!
See Larry Haun do it with bare hands th-cam.com/video/yh6cMQnWGwA/w-d-xo.html
Great instruction! Thank you.
@Jon Peters Your lawn does indeed look good...appreciate it everytime I roll by on bike heading home from the trails. Hope to see you on the trails again! Just converted to Jonathan Green this year---Love Your Soil; Mag i Cal; Black Beauty Original; and Green Up for seeding and sodding. Love the 4ft root depth for the grass...can't wait. Hope all is well bro.
Enjoyed the video, rack looks great
Nice and simple...(yeah right...lol) I really like it. Nice design Jon.
man, that Milwaukee impact driver is impressive.
Great job Jon, Stay Safe and have a nice day !!! .
Nice saw. Still waitin on the bosch👍
A real essential work.Thank you for the plans !!!
Great log stand I think I will make one of these.
Love it!! Fun watching you work.
Hey, that came out great and just in time for the upcoming months. Thanks, nice video!
Nice log rack Jon, but in the UK 🇬🇧 we would need a roof over it! Nice lawn by the way. 👍🏼
The frame legs are in contact with the ground, would it not be better to have some form of damp proof isolation?
Awesome tutorial. Thanks Jon.
Way too complicated, so many easier builds. You do excellent work you are a craftsman and I do appreciate your skill.
So post an easier build with the same size?
How far into the board are you driving your screws?
Is there a recommended depth?
Edit: after some research most if not all say to drive the screw either flush Or 1/6” below the surface of the wood.
Are you aware of anything different or are you ‘In the Zone’ and doing your man thing? (I do this as well until I catch myself)
Edit #2 - I have added a roof on my three rakes. The wood stays dry and bakes in the heat.
Love you design!
I was wondering the same thing, he seems to be driving these screws almost all the way through...
yeah... most of his screws aren't holding much. Flush or just under surface is your goal. This video shows what happens when you have a fresh battery on your impact drill blasting screws into wood lol.
I'm curious why you drive the screws so deep. Doesn't that weaken the holding power?
Awesome work Jon! 😃👍🏻👊🏻
Even though it's pressure treated, I'd added a water sealer to it.
Looks great.
Hello again Jon. You said there were free plans. Where do I find the plans? I have looked high, low and in the middle and have not found them. I am looking forward to starting the project!!
Great video thanks🇨🇦
Like one of those 🕊🇬🇧
Good my engineer
Bro., I mean who da hell doesn't love a big ass pile of split wood to burn. The rack is simple, effective & just enough design element to separate it from just being defined as a bunch of dimensional lumber screwed together... Hoping all is well Bud, Dirty Jersey out!!
With this amount of work and detail one might think he is building a deck off the house….I know the wood that is stored there will be happy.
I admire your craftsmanship. This is one solid rack!. I would have taken it one step further. The legs touching the ground would benefit greatly if they had been placed on top of a 12"x12" concrete "stepping stone". I'm only talking about an added $20 to an already ridiculously priced rack. Just my $.02...
OK Jon, I went out to Brock Farm and picked up a 50lb bag of Black Beauty Original. We had to start from Dirt because the septic was changed out. We added Love Your Soil because we have a little clay.
We needed something and your Sponcer supplied the perfect choice.
I didn't know that Jonathan Green was over here in Farmingdale, NJ
You can also go to Twin Pond Farms on Route 9 in Howell.
Why run the deck screws halfway through the 2bys?
Does the firewood need to be covered?
Hi Jon another great video, you mentioned the logs now are off the ground and drying out, what if it rains? Are you going to put a roof type covering over the logs in case it rains? Thanks Jon
This is something I have been wondering too, is a roof needed against snow or rain? Thanks for clarifying @Jon
It is not an issue if it rains or snows. The impotant part is, that the logs are off the ground because otherwise they would rott really quickly.
It depends somewhat on the climate. But the curing of green firewood is something that happens at a cellular level in the wood. Even wood left out in the rain will cure (dry out internally) over time. Maybe in a true rainforest climate it wouldn't dry. But where I live it is possible to season firewood without a cover. I do transfer it to a covered rack near the house before I actually burn it, though. Even though the internal moisture is gone, it is hard to get a fire started with logs that are wet on the outside. Once it is going, wet logs will steam off and burn just fine as long as they are just wet on the outside. Burning green firewood is pretty difficult and often the fire just doesn't seem to get going. But you can have a good fire with cured firewood that is just wet on the outside, once you get it started.
@@tomjefferson5431 I disagree. I have left wood stacked and uncovered and it grows mould in between where the wood contacts other pieces. If covered this would not be significant and would dry out, but my experience is that it must be covered (at least where I live).
@@SamRaimi34 nah
Great video, I burn wood for heat so I am looking forward to building your double deep wood rack. Have you put together a shopping list for the
Materials that will be needed. Thanks and keep up the good work..
Great property. How many acres do you have john ?
as another Jon once said "Winter is coming" :)
This is like a $400 wood rack. Super nice, but as stated earlier, wayyy too complicated. If it's that complex, it should have some cross bars to support a tarp or tin as a weather guard.
Your free plans show cutting the 2x6x12 down to 11’ .... is this right?
Looks great, except I'll need a roof over it to keep rain and snow off the wood.
Thanks, yes I think a roof could be added to this design… maybe a support in the center.
Ran outa funds😂
I got all the way to 7:30 and then he mentions using the table saw. I need to build a firewood shed and I don't have a table saw. I wish there were a way around that without trying to rip a 2x4 with a circular saw.
I think you can make those rips with a Circular saw
@@JonPetersArtHome Thanks. Seems like a long length, though. I'd have to be really careful about keeping the wood stable and the saw steady. I'm always careful with power tools, but this goes into super-cautious territory.
Looks great, have any trouble finding green treated lumber in your area?
OMG, nothing personal but can anyone say overkill! What are you stacking on this, gold? lol 😂 looks solid
That lumber can't be from a big box store...its too dry and too straight. :)
Cheers!!
You didn’t mention what length deck screws you used. Did I hear you say 3”?
Yes, he said 3”
That wasn't an echo... [Jon may have mentioned the 3" deck screws once or twice...]
Question: Why use deck screws, which have no structural strength, and then add lag bolts later? Why not just ust GRK structural screws and be done with it? No drilling and bolting needed.
How come no roof? I bet with support from top, you wouldn't have to you such a heavy pieces of wood in the ends. Looks like a bit too much as most of the weight is going down and only some to the sides.
Nice vid but way overkill with the lags due to the knock outs
Is that wood treated? Also, do racks need to be covered?
Yes and I don’t cover
I would be afraid that termites would eat it up
I need something like that, but with a roof - how much does that one hold?
Stacked to the top of the side supports with no gap between stacks,. it will hold about 155 cubic feet or 1.2 cords of wood. So, subtract a little for gap and not stacking all the way to the top, it should hold around a cord of wood.
@@AppalachianLife thanks!
No roof?
Not to hard to figure out if you want to add one
Very nice, Jon. Is there a reason that you didn't use PT for the entire rack?
It all looks pt to me. The darker color and prominent darkish grain. He prolly just skipped mentioning it all was.
Obviously it never rains there
Looks great except for driving the screws half way through the lumber lol
Needs a roof. Better protection and would look better.
Jon do you live by a forest or by a lake ? Seems like a huge property lol
Home Depot now charges the cost of an arm for that much lumber!
Better add a leg to the tally also.
Random question, what shoes are you wearing in this video?
Lacrosse... great slip on’s that will keep your feet dry.
In police state Switzerland you need to ask the authorities for permission (permits) if you wanted to build this on “your” property.
Today’s wood prices that’s about 1000$
NICE JOB, IN 2022 THIS WOULD COST YOU $500 FOR MATERAILS, WELL BUILT
Wow, a tad overkill with joinery, lag-bolts, screws, 2x6’s and 4x4 legs. Don’t get me wrong it’s very nice, but that’s a very pricey way wood storage. When one could just use 4 cinder blocks and a few 2x4’s and get the same outcome. Why not add a roof too since you’re going all out. Nice project tho.
Go weigh a cord of wood when it’s wet/snow and see how your spaghetti noodle 2x4 one is going to hold up.😂😂.
GR8
Seems to me that they’ll get wet when it rains and then it’s “wait till they get dry again”.
That's not really how wood dries. The reason to dry or season firewood is to dry out the inside of the log/piece. If you've ever seen rain on a wood deck, the superficial water or water left on the surface evaporates really quickly and the board itself isn't sopping wet.
If it's recently rained, then starting a fire with damp wood isn't easy but throwing some onto an already burning fire wouldn't really affect it.
Yes I agree with Andy. Green cut wood may be something like 70 percent moisture by weight. If you leave it out in the elements (but off the ground) to cure it will still dry out to 30 or even less percent moisture by weight. I mean, I am not sure if you can do that in a rainforest or whatever. But in many places it will cure (internally dry out) even if it gets rained on.
Really? Not for the money, but I use cylinder blocks and fresh trees for the outsides and the bottom, total cost $5. no tools needed, solid as a rock.
Sounds good 👍
Step One: Take out a second mortgage just so you can afford to buy lumber (at these crazy 2020 prices) !
Agree, I was going to start a shop build project on my property a few months ago, but I'm putting it off for now because of covid lumber prices. 4x4x12 treated are $30 now!
Not you too Jon Peters. Is it a trend for TH-cam Woodworkers to misuse the word EITHER? 6:02 and 6:32. The word EITHER is used when you're referring to one or the other. Key word OR. In your case and like so many others, it should have been BOTH sides. Or EACH side. Sorry about the comment but i just had to get that out there. Other than my little pet peave, I've always enjoyed your videos and have been a subscriber for a few years already. Keep up the good work and great content.
U must be a blast at parties
@@epicone1986 Thanks!!!
I also assume you get punched a lot ;)
@@epicone1986 NOPE!!!😂
"Peeve"
Check your email just sent you some SketchUp drawings. I need build 3 of these.
Overkilling and too much materials. SIMPLICITY MUST RULE
Ok